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post Apr 5 2015, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Apr 5 2015, 05:42 AM)
when you buying huh brows.gif
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hmm.gif eh i dunno.. if under RM2k maybe yeah xx r9 390x too long eh got money saving up but so tempting to get new fast gpu so much thinking to get GTX 980 tongue.gif x
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post Apr 6 2015, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 6 2015, 12:39 PM)
Now i start to think it's an ex-miner cards. Doesn't matter much if it perform like it should and still have factory warranty.
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hm is a ex Feiton Shop worker... or owner ? ?
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post Apr 7 2015, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 7 2015, 12:31 PM)
doubt that since the card only have 1 year of warranty left.
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hmm.gif than i suspect it even more ... as the warranty would run on after their shop close and ppl to go hide(they own some taiko sharky) but still price they pay is excellent price..
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post Apr 10 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Apr 9 2015, 08:03 PM)
R9 390 XFX  hmm.gif
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drool.gif performance must be SICK ! YO ! wipe flow with GTX 980 ! yo !
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post Apr 11 2015, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Apr 10 2015, 10:08 PM)
My cousin's HD7790 cannot boot into windows. If no AMD drivers installed then it can, but after installed, it shows BIOS screen and then no video signal.

I put it in my PC and the same thing happened, when I put my GPU it works fine.

Anybody else faced the same problem?
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hmm.gif u did try DUU ? so before it work just fine ? what window it using ? did ur cousin update anything before Bios driver or try mod anything mobo or gpu ?
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post Apr 12 2015, 12:14 AM

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that is really strange... faulty on gpu.. as if the gpu dun want to be rebranded tongue.gif x flickering cause Hynix mem not agree or cope with sudden high and low speed ? blink.gif im grateful dun need those bios fix to fix gpu.. x

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post Apr 13 2015, 10:49 PM

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hm why all sudden count Watt usage ?? and Cooler Master Watt Calculator reliable ?

http://www.coolermaster.outervision.com/
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post Apr 14 2015, 01:03 PM

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grand theft auto V yaa... but im more happy to play my old old Fav... " war for the overworld(Dungeon Keeper Copy ?)
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post Apr 15 2015, 12:25 PM

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try Grand theft auto V, it seem to work fine with my current AMD driver... is there a benchmark system on GTA V ? hmm cause it did show im getting 50 -60 fps on 4K but all special graphic is turn off.. only issues i see is keep hearing a static/distortion on audio when the talk..

add-on: on graphic setting it say run benchmark tool ? or sumthing but each time i click it seem to be replay cut scene...

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Apr 15 2015, 01:12 PM)
It is an interesting benchmark nonetheless. It means users can toggle off some of the options that causes big hit on the performance.
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smile.gif i think review show AMD R9 290 is still flex.gif and i play it on crossfire with 4K very High setting(of course Advance graphic option is OFF) enjoy 50FPs average+ experience smooth play session... xx but at end is enjoyable game with good graphic... x
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post Apr 16 2015, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 16 2015, 06:37 PM)
Since my bad experience with reference r9 290, i phobia with r9 issues so always want to keep it cool.

My case is maxed out already need a better one

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hey how your cpu cooler? noisey or unoticed

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post Apr 17 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 17 2015, 11:22 AM)
its silent bro and as cool as watercooling  thumbup.gif
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can the fan be change... ? as brown/cream white seem to be strange colour on Fan.. x
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post Apr 17 2015, 03:39 PM

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AMD Freesync or G-Sync

according to AMD, not requiring a proprietary module, no licensing fees, it being open source, using DisplayPort, is compatible with all standard monitor features, and has a refresh rate range of 9-240Hz. G-Sync, on the other hand, needs a proprietary module, charges a license fee, isn't open source and has a refresh rate range of 30-144Hz.
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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/04/09...ync-amd-nvidia/

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post Apr 17 2015, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 17 2015, 11:41 PM)
The refresh rate window is panel specific.  The adaptive-sync spec is from 9-240hz, but no way panel manufacturer will allow the panel to refresh as low as 10hz. 
At this moment theres no freesync monitor that can do VRR below 30hz that im aware of.
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VRR ? hmm.gif below 30hz... ? eh i thought ppl want LCD monitor with at least 60hz ? so G-sync got VRR that below 30hz? (watever it is) worth the Extra RM300-500 ? sorry i am not LCD monitor expert.. but when im gaming on 4k 60hz lcd i barely notice any Screen tearing so on.. hmm maybe i got really bad Eye sight hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 18 2015, 04:30 PM)
Freesync monitor have refresh rate window from 40hz.  Within the Variable refresh rate (VRR) window, the freesync works flawlessly.  But thing get really different between freesync and g-sync when the frame rate drop below the vrr window.  When fps drop below 40, you'll get the classic stuttered like any other non vrr monitor.  In g-sync, they implement the frame interpolation (frame duplicating/doubling/tripling), if the FPS drop below VRR window.  For example, if the fps is at 30, g-sync monitor will refresh the panel at 60hz, while it g-sync module buffer the fps by doubling it to match the refresh rate.  If the fps at 20, the panel will refresh at 60hz, the g-sync buffer will triple the fps.  The g-sync module will keep the panel to refresh at the VRR window, at any fps without odd frames that mismatch the refresh rate.

It is still unknown why freesync unable to do frame doubling, the fact that VESA adaptive standard DP1.2a+ white paper have frame doubling technology too if the fps drop below vrr window.  My speculation is, the lack of asics/frame buffer in panel scaler to achieve what g-sync can achieve.  I do think this can be done in the GPU buffer itself. Maybe lack of mature drivers?

However, if fps shoot above VRR window, freesync have the option to have v-sync on or v-sync off. While nvidia g-sync will force v-sync on (cap fps) at maximum panel refresh rate.

List of freesync panel and its VRR window.

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hmm.gif so let say im using Samsung UE590 4K it's minimum refresh rate is - ? so it's should be okay right.. as Freesync need 9-240hz to be very effective, eh im still confuse...

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post Apr 19 2015, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 18 2015, 06:50 PM)
The samsung UE590 final spec is not revealed yet. But i bet it is minimum 40hz maximum 60hz. 

The 9-240hz is the universal refresh rate space.  Not the panel refresh rate.  Freesync works within panel refresh rate.  The gpu negotiate with panel the VRR window before hand, and AMD claim this is more superior, and have 0 latency than nvidia g-sync.

There is no panel that can run at 9-240hz at this moment.
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hmm.gif so which AMD Gpu ur using ? well let say my FreeSync LCD minimum 40Hz.. max 60Hz.. but im using R9 290x on crossfire setting... if my Gpu manage to get Fps average 50Fps... my understanding i should get to used Freesync.. ? ? e.g. on GTA V in 4K resolution i do get 50-60Fps... and if i am using Freesync Panel i should be able to enjoy the game in this so call Freesync tech .. right ?
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 18 2015, 08:57 PM)
ooh my look at the price  cry.gif
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hm... 600usd... well not yet out... at moment im using it's earlier brother Samsung UD590 28inch 4K LCD.. For TN panel it look Good smile.gif i pay 510usd..(RM1,840)
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 19 2015, 11:35 AM)
Truely a master race gamer, panel so mahal, i only have 1 gpu so I guess free sync is not a worthy upgrade for me
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naah not into Master Race gamer.. sorry everyone is gamer smile.gif even if you tab your Smart phone... Your GAmeR biggrin.gif im just stupid over spending, hope/Nostalgia to play on PC that i could never/ able to afford when i was younger... xx icon_rolleyes.gif

Freesync: do you suffer from Graphic Tearing ?? hm i do not or rarely suffer from tearing.. eh other word not really believer of this tech... is like excuses for gpu maker to sell off their brand on LCD.. lolx

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 19 2015, 04:39 PM)
Should be no problem if framerate within the vrr window.  But i would like to see minimum 30hz for 4k panel. Not really concern on max refresh rate because current gen card hardly can output more than 60.  Minimum refresh rate is important because you'll encounter frame drops more often on 4k resolution.
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if R9 390 out, good price or rm600-900 lower than competitor with new HBM Memory tech smile.gif sure i believe crossfire r9 390 is possible to get Average 50-60fps(or higher) in 4K .

by way what AMD gpu your using... ? im using sapphire AMD r9 290X 4Gb Vaporx/Trix(crossfire mode) why i am confident my AMD gpu get 40-50+FPS average... unless New release Game and under GameWork...

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-...s-gpus-in-june/

http://wccftech.com/amd-talk-graphics-products-quarter/

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 20 2015, 07:58 AM)
Nah it wont be that much price difference. New cards plus new memory wont be cheap, plus GST.

Freesync is still at its infant state. Wait a few months for it to be more mature. I agree that higher refresh rate isnt that important because one of the reason of it is to achieve fluidity at lower framerate at high resolution such as 4k and above, other than to eliminate screen tearing of course.
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hm.. Seller in Malaysia(NOT all of them) alot of them Jack up the price e.g. look at GTX Titan X RM4,xxx+ this is before GST was implemented... is on Lynet NEWSUpdate... if they give out the usual excuses "US Currency Exchange Fluctuation" (even so distro got it goods from china and all product produce in China "feel so suspicious/greedy") it shouldn't be more RM3.9K AND if Nvidia recommend 999USD does not mean Seller not getting it % cut with selling of base recommended price...
http://www.lowyat.net/2015/03/nvidia-gefor...ore-than-rm-4k/

And for your info AMD always Present a better competitive price over it's competitor... e.g. GTX 980 and R9 290 performance only 6-9FPS or some game no difference... but in price... is 100usd - 250usd difference... icon_rolleyes.gif

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