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TSDeaDLocK
post Sep 28 2006, 12:13 AM

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LOL of course I accept. Did I ever say I didn't accept? Mine is not a super-duper high-end system, but I guarantee it sounds better than you guys expect. Your ability to judge is limited by the fact that you haven't heard the system, right? Have you heard a Sony GT800? If not, why do you assume all Sonys are made equal? It's not as great as a high-end Alpine, sure, but at the end of the day the HU checked off all the criteria I wanted. Not cheap either - RM1800! But I'm happy with it. And before you judge and say "RM1800 should have gotten Alpine!!!" - have you heard this Sony? The same principle goes for everything else in the car.

I asked the tuner at KF about his opinion on the setup after he had finished installing and tuning everything, and he said it was very good already. Anything beyond this would be creeping into expensive high-end territory, and for a high mid-range setup it was sweet.

Still a lot of room for improvement though, which is why I continue to welcome comments, even though I have a right to disagree, especially if you have no direct experience with the components I'm using.
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post Sep 28 2006, 12:15 AM

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Just to say that I am considering upgrading the HU, front components and the sub, but I am not sure if it would be worth it. Of course I can get better sound, but where do you draw the line?

Kena poison already.
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post Sep 28 2006, 12:17 AM

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i think thread close better.....
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post Sep 28 2006, 12:22 AM

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LOL. Now thread must get closed? Let me explain what happened.

1. I said what I did in my car

2. Some people commented that the stuff isn't all that great and it can be improved

3. I agreed, but I explained why I chose the things I did. I also said I was considering upgrading all those things anyway. And I thanked people for their feedback.

4. Some people accuse me of flaming and not listening (!!!! What did I say?)

5. I replied to those people.

That's it. No harsh words or anything - just misunderstanding and misinterpretation. No need to close anything.

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post Sep 28 2006, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(DeaDLocK @ Sep 28 2006, 12:13 AM)
LOL of course I accept. Did I ever say I didn't accept? Mine is not a super-duper high-end system, but I guarantee it sounds better than you guys expect. Your ability to judge is limited by the fact that you haven't heard the system, right? Have you heard a Sony GT800? If not, why do you assume all Sonys are made equal? It's not as great as a high-end Alpine, sure, but at the end of the day the HU checked off all the criteria I wanted. Not cheap either - RM1800! But I'm happy with it. And before you judge and say "RM1800 should have gotten Alpine!!!" - have you heard this Sony? The same principle goes for everything else in the car.

I asked the tuner at KF about his opinion on the setup after he had finished installing and tuning everything, and he said it was very good already. Anything beyond this would be creeping into expensive high-end territory, and for a high mid-range setup it was sweet.

Still a lot of room for improvement though, which is why I continue to welcome comments, even though I have a right to disagree, especially if you have no direct experience with the components I'm using.
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i wonder if he will said " u system sound like crap
u're wasting ur money investing this kinda shiet" laugh.gif
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post Sep 28 2006, 12:27 AM

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room for improvement

1) component set
2) active crossover (u r on active or passive now? unsure.gif )

not so important aspect
if budget permits.. u can ask siemen to let u try out the steg that he has
i believe u will be amaze by how much improvement u will have

also..u can ask siemen to let u try the 9 inch Focal sub.. brilliant sub
which is good for compact car

HU is actually adequate already... no need change
i have heard the new range b4...not too bad ... and nothing exciting...

added:
show some pics la...
since u got a D70
shud have show us some great pics smile.gif

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TSDeaDLocK
post Sep 28 2006, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(FUZI0N @ Sep 28 2006, 12:22 AM)
i wonder if he will said " u system sound like crap u're wasting ur money investing this kinda shiet

Haha.

No he didn't say that - he did say there was room for improvement, but 8k system how to compare with 15k system?

And KF Audio are very good and very famous in the Malaysian ICE crowd for their quality installations and tuning, so I trust what they tell me.

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I would have gotten a 12" sub in the first place, but I'm worried about my boot space! As it is almost got no boot left. So I got the 8" on a two-week trial, and was surprisingly happy with it. To get the "tightness" on a 12" I would have to spend a lot of money, so not sure if it's really worth it.
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 28 2006, 12:27 AM)
room for improvement

1) component set
2) active crossover (u r on active or passive now? unsure.gif )

not so important aspect
if budget permits.. u can ask siemen to let u try out the steg that he has
i believe u will be amaze by how much improvement u will have

also..u can ask siemen to let u try the 9 inch Focal sub.. brilliant sub
which is good for compact car

HU is actually adequate already... no need change
i have heard the new range b4...not too bad ... and nothing exciting...

Thanks. THIS is constructive feedback.

I'm interested with the 9". I'll check with him on that.

My crossover is active - no passive crossovers anywhere in my system.

What is the "steg"? smile.gif

Yeah nothing exciting about the new Sony range, but I must admit the FM tuner is very good compared to all the other HUs I've had in my previous cars (including two high-end Alpine and JVC units). The sound is not earth-shattering, but it is decent enough. As it is I think the SQ is bottlenecked by my speakers anyway, so I won't consider changing this until I change the front components.

Thanks.

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post Sep 28 2006, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(DeaDLocK @ Sep 28 2006, 12:22 AM)
LOL. Now thread must get closed? Let me explain what happened.

1. I said what I did in my car

2. Some people commented that the stuff isn't all that great and it can be improved

3. I agreed, but I explained why I chose the things I did. I also said I was considering upgrading all those things anyway. And I thanked people for their feedback.

4. Some people accuse me of flaming and not listening (!!!! What did I say?)

5. I replied to those people.

That's it. No harsh words or anything - just misunderstanding and misinterpretation. No need to close anything.

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damn thats funny.... u misunderstood la bro... NO ONE accused u of flaming and not listening....

its jojo902156 thy were talking about. mattchin got flamed by him/her and loon1031 decided to join in... but i get the feeling that loon1031 accidentally targetted the wrong person laugh.gif

anyway... i dunno why ur so worried about boot space in ur car... unless ur talking about 2x12" la then i would understand. but if ur talking about 1x12" in the boot... then its a small matter la provided u use a box instead of tube aka bazooka enclosure. like i said i drive a kelisa and i have a 12" in my boot and boot space isnt much of an issue unless i decide to carry big stuff that takes up half the boot space.

also, i say stick with ur current HU. u already spent quite abit on it so live with it for awhile...besides... ur happy with it so let it be la.

"Steg" is a brand...very popular among ICErs

u also mentioned upgrading to 3way comps for the front.. why man? id prefer to leave them as 2-way personally.

by the way, what kinda music u listen to?
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post Sep 28 2006, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(DeaDLocK @ Sep 28 2006, 12:30 AM)
Thanks. THIS is constructive feedback.

I'm interested with the 9". I'll check with him on that.

My crossover is active - no passive crossovers anywhere in my system.

What is the "steg"? smile.gif

Yeah nothing exciting about the new Sony range, but I must admit the FM tuner is very good compared to all the other HUs I've had in my previous cars (including two high-end Alpine and JVC units). The sound is not earth-shattering, but it is decent enough. As it is I think the SQ is bottlenecked by my speakers anyway, so I won't consider changing this until I change the front components.

Thanks.
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wow.. since u said sony's tuner is g00d then i will blif cz 2 me alpine is aledi considered a good 1 if 2 compare wif eclipse and pioneer.. thumbup.gif

focal came out wif a 9" sub.. ? cute measurement tongue.gif wat's the ideal size for the box ah? blush.gif

u can go better wif a g00d component thumbup.gif
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post Sep 28 2006, 08:03 AM

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Hoho...!
I not target DeaDLocK @ ma.. shakehead.gif
I don't under stand the jojo guys why don't listen to what people comment!? Not open mind at all doh.gif

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post Sep 28 2006, 10:42 AM

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ha! ha!..

if he/she is an old uncle/aunty i can accept that kind of attitude but if he is juz a 20+-, the fellar no hope edi.. can masuk kilang and remanufacture.. smile.gif

btw loon, haf u heard of adire shiva in PG?
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post Sep 28 2006, 11:05 AM

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post Sep 28 2006, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 28 2006, 10:42 AM)
ha! ha!..

if he/she is an old uncle/aunty i can accept that kind of attitude but if he is juz a 20+-, the fellar no hope edi.. can masuk kilang and remanufacture.. smile.gif

btw loon, haf u heard of adire shiva in PG?
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Nope! I don't hear any adire shiva in Penang...!
Do you know Penang where have it?
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post Sep 28 2006, 05:49 PM

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u guys should go to autoworld.com.my forum and go to the ICE section

most of the sifoos there are from penang and they have ICE TTs quite often.

i get most of my answers there and up to date they havent failed me yet. especially this dude with the nick Pras. very knowledgeable and very helpful.

they should know where to get the Adire Shiva in Penang.

EDIT: A shop called 'Golden' somewhere in Bayan Lepas happens to have been mentioned alot by the Penang ICErs in AW forum.

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post Sep 28 2006, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 28 2006, 05:49 PM)
u guys should go to autoworld.com.my forum and go to the ICE section

most of the sifoos there are from penang and they have ICE TTs quite often.

i get most of my answers there and up to date they havent failed me yet. especially this dude with the nick Pras. very knowledgeable and very helpful.

they should know where to get the Adire Shiva in Penang.

EDIT: A shop called 'Golden' somewhere in Bayan Lepas happens to have been mentioned alot by the Penang ICErs in AW forum.
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But The Golden Auto Boss qiute "lan shi".
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post Sep 28 2006, 07:58 PM

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try the scanspeak 9" also... tht one can go very low and good for SQ as well...
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post Sep 28 2006, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 28 2006, 12:49 PM)
Nope! I don't hear any adire shiva in Penang...!
Do you know Penang where have it?
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adire shiva is a g00d woofer but it's a power hungry woofer.. i can't recall where my fren bought it from (in PG).. i'll ask for u if u wanna check that out..

i thought the IASCA champion (SQ) for these few years r KF Audio and Sound Quest?
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I don't want power hungry woofer..!
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post Sep 29 2006, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 27 2006, 09:38 AM)
ha! ha!..

yeah.. bad english from me.. and urs r soooo great.. u can't win ICE now u talk ENGLISH.. wat a crap.. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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First, I think you have to make my statements right at the first place. I said let you be the winner is your 'good' english that you have. Like 'here' the sound or 'hear' the sound, which 1 is the correct word for hear. If you still insist that your english are good, then I got no say.

Anyway to others that says Sony not a good brand that have alot of problem, why not file a complaint against them? If Sony don't want to entertaint, can always go to http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index and make the compalint rather talk over here.

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