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Saigo
post Mar 6 2007, 05:11 PM

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I'm concerned about the lack of RAM as mentioned in the review posted two pages back: "22 MB free RAM is certainly too little for such a powerful device".

I certainly will hold back for a while, while waiting for more reviews to surface.
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post Mar 7 2007, 11:20 AM

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I don't know about you, but I don't like pairing an external GPS device (which is already expensive) to my phone as it eats up battery like mad. Which is precisely why I'd like to get this phone - once it has been officially released with reviews, of course.
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post Mar 8 2007, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Mar 7 2007, 11:30 AM)
That- versus turning on the built-in GPS and trying to get a signal in for so long and eating up battery power as well? Good luck! wink.gif

I can have crappy built-in GPS, but if it doesnt do what it is SUPPOSED to do, what is the point including it in the package? BT GPS , if you have used it in real life, does not gobble up battery power like mad, it only detect satellite ephemeris every 30 second or so to update your relative position. I have tried it , and the effect , also exists, is negligible. Having it built-in does not mean it's power-saving, ESPECIALLY on chipsets that are less sensitive and requires longer periods of time to obtain satellite fix.

Of course, you need a good BT GPS to make use of power-saving features it has. My Garmin Mobile 10X BT GPS is clever enough to know when it is not getting ANY satellite fix and turns itself off, effective saving power to the BT pairing.

So, which do you prefer:-

A - An external BT GPS devices paired to your phone, that is super-sensitive and obtain satellite lock in less than a minute, and as quoted by you, "eats battery power"

OR

B - A built-in GPS chipset that is less sensitive, requires turning it on longer to get satellite position lock, and still eats battery power

Solutions like Holux GPSlim units and Garmin Mobile 10X even allows you to pair it with other devices like PDAs and mobile laptops , not just phones. My Garmin even comes with a clip-on that i can clip on my shirt, and still look unobtrusive.
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You've got some good points.

I don't know how large external GPS devices are, but I just don't like the idea of having to carry an external thing all around everytime. What if I want to use GPS but conveniently forgot to bring it along? Which is why an all-in-one device would work perfectly for forgetful people like yours truly, although after hearing you saying that the GPS chip that comes with N95 is weak, I'm having 2nd thoughts.

FYI, I'm using P990i which is using Symbian UIQ3, and I don't think there are any maps (or programs using maps for that matter) released for UIQ3 yet, no?
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post Mar 8 2007, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Mar 8 2007, 01:49 AM)
The Garmin Mobile 10X and the Holux GPSlim are both small enough , they are clip-ons, instead of taking up space as big as a deck of cards. The Garmin even comes with clips for you to clip it onto your shirt, so it is small enough to do that. If you are that forgetful then feel free to subscribe to a more inferior solution than a better one. Personally, i see this as a habitual issue rather than technical, and habits can be shaped and trained.

What guarantees are there that if you are as forgetful as you are that you would forget to even bring your N95 with you? If you can train your mind to be habitual about remembering to bring around your cellphone with you, the same thought process can be applied to carrying not only a BT GPS, but any other things for that matter. To me, this issue is trivial at best, more like laziness than physical weakness.

Would you forget to bring your house keys? Or your car keys? Or your ID card? How did you train your mind to carry out these routine habits? The same thing can be applied to your BT GPS. Heck, have the P990i remind you every single time you plan to go hiking or using GPS with you, to bring it along for the trip? How much more difficult can that be? Personally, i see people using the "forgetful" line of thought as an escape clause as just not willing to consider other alternatives and wanting to be comfortable with their comfort zones.

Hell, why do i even bother? Im already migrating to a standalone GPS unit, two actually, the Garmin Nuvi 360 and the Garmin GPSMap 60CSx. Both are the Cadillacs of their kinds, although the Nuvi 360 has been slightly overtaken by its widescreen cousin, the Nuvi 610/660. Google them if you need to know what these are.

And oh, i must ask you what are your plans with the GPS in the N95? Most use them for autorouting, a feature used for navigating roads while driving around in your car. Consider this, if your built-in GPS is inferior and weak in taking in satellite reception, and prone to losing satellite fix due to its inferior chipset, what use is GPS in your phone other than a useless lump of silicone attached to a bunch of maps? GPS only find its usefulness when it is WORKING, and for inferior chipsets, even being in the shadow of tall high-rise buildings will render it unservicable. Same case applies for those using it to wander around in strange unfamiliar places, what use does it have if it keeps on losing satellite fix and you end up scratching your head wondering where the hell you are? wink.gif
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Like I've mentioned before, I'll wait for detailed reviews before deciding if I need this.

There are few things I always bring along wherever I go - and one of them is definitely my handphone. Ask anyone around you and you'll find almost nobody leaves their house without their phone no matter how forgetful they are - wait, I think I'm not gonna bother arguing.

You mentioned that people use "forgetfulness" as an escape clause and not wanting to consider other alternatives - the thing is, I am considering other alternatives, or have you not noticed that?

Different people have different needs and wants, and I sure as hell don't think I'm the type that wants to buy an external GPS device that probably wouldn't work on a UIQ3-based phone (no good mapping programs), which you seemed to have neglected to notice. I want an all-in-one device, and if N95's GPS is as inferior as you say, then I'll just look around or wait for better devices - or seriously consider an external one.

I plan to use GPS (whether external or N95 or other phones) for autorouting - that's for sure. Plus how certain are you anyway that N95's GPS chipset would be 'inferior' when the actual phone isn't even out here yet?

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post Mar 9 2007, 06:59 PM

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If n95 ever retails at that crazy price I'd rather get something else.
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post Mar 13 2007, 03:49 PM

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yeah, maybe i'll wait till SE's codenamed phones to be released - a successor to W950i will be excellent. At this rate N95 is just too pricey for a phone.
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post Mar 14 2007, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(KimRoss @ Mar 14 2007, 11:50 AM)
If it's taken ONLY with the N95, then I'm impressed.
IMHO, It was taken with N95 and the Photoshopped to take away the reddish glare that is always visible in N95 pictures.

Any idea was it Photoshopped to take away the reddish hues?  :help:
Cos if it's not.... Nokia did very well  :respect:
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We all have to consider the possibilities.. it could be photoshopped :p
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post Mar 20 2007, 04:36 PM

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Yeah this is taking too long to be released. It's almost April.
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post Mar 20 2007, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Kdash @ Mar 20 2007, 11:43 PM)
N95 is definitely the bomb. I was actually suprised at the size and weight of it.

Yea, 3 at the same time, hehe  biggrin.gif  Will upload the photos later. The N95 i got is actually the prototype model. Hence, the OS is still not stable.
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I've read too about the prototype model - there should be a more stable firmware when it's officially launched here.
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post Mar 21 2007, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Mar 21 2007, 09:52 AM)
ooo... :nod:
keep on postponing from the beginning of year...maybe up till end of year... :P
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By then there'll be other phones with GPS capabilities (probably better).. and in the end N95 will be losing out >_>
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post Mar 21 2007, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(leepast @ Mar 21 2007, 12:17 PM)
laugh.gif yea dude...i almost forgot it oredi.....there's I-mobile's new product oso got 5MP...although their spec is not as good as N95 ...but it's 5MP....maybe i'll put it as one of my consideration due to long waiting for N95 yawn.gif
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It looks awfully similar to an SE phone.
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post Mar 30 2007, 09:39 AM

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Fuah chun. If anyone managed to get one today, tell us about it biggrin.gif
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post Mar 30 2007, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Mar 30 2007, 11:09 AM)
arghhh.... too bad my n73 went to sc... need wait 2 weeks only can get it back... now lack of funds to get N95 ><"
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The wait would be worth it.. by 2 weeks time you can read users' reviews on it tongue.gif
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post Apr 1 2007, 05:45 PM

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OMG this topic is getting really.. funny. -__-
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post Apr 2 2007, 03:39 PM

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But then again it'll just be a few days difference now no? Since we already have ads of N95 and whatnot sprouting up.
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post Apr 4 2007, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(smashpOp @ Apr 4 2007, 03:23 PM)
EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST GOT MY N95 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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IM SO HAPPPY NOW
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faster review for us soon!!!


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