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Minecrafter
post Jan 3 2015, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 3 2015, 08:12 AM)
Dunno why but ur web page load very slow.

Anyway Arctic cool is NOT aerocool right?
Been looking for Arctic F12 PWM case fans, seems no more in Malaysian market.
No more laku? problematic? hmm.gif
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Doesn't load slow for me. tongue.gif


QUOTE(amimaumakan @ Jan 3 2015, 08:46 AM)
May i start asking?
I3-4150
H97 Pro 4
Kingston hyperX 1600mhz 2x4gb
R9 270 sapphire
Kcas 500w 80+ bronze
A case? Budget around 200 or lower
Dvd drive
Network card (suggest hoping to get 300mbps)
A Full hd Monitor

Total budget around 2500max
I like to keep that 8gb as i think that is the minimum requirement for today's gaming

I would like to shop this at lowyatt plaza do i buy bundle more cheaper or i buy one by one (pick the cheapest for each component)
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This is better.

CPU:Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM599
MoBo:Asrock B85M-HDS RM239
GPU:Sapphire R9 270 Dual-X OC 2GB GDDR5 RM589
RAM:Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM244
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM174
PSU:FSP Hexa+ 550W RM169
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Wifi:TP-Link WN821N RM29
Monitor:Samsung S22C170BS RM349
Total:RM2600
Prices are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

You can try haggle with them,to get it cheaper. wink.gif

Btw goldfries,can you please pin this thread?Thanks. smile.gif

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post Jan 3 2015, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 3 2015, 08:57 AM)
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BTW Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM599?
Thot RM579 hmm.gif
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doh.gif I thought it's RM599,but it's actually RM619.

QUOTE(wkh_united @ Jan 3 2015, 08:57 AM)
Dear sifus,

I need recommendation from you all.
Preferably Intel and Nvidia-based.

Budget : 3.5 to 3.7k
Purpose : Gaming, multasking, streaming, movies
Hardwares that will be re-used : Elite 311 casing, keyboard & mouse, DVD Drive
Games & softwares that use frequently : BF4, Fifa 15 and other most recent games
Location : Kuala Lumpur

I have the following in mind:
Proc : Intel i5 4690 / 4690K
Graphic card : Nvidia GTX970 (read review about MSI GTX970 Gaming 4G is quite good)
PSU : Seasonic (Seasonic S12G-650 650W or Seasonic S12II 80 620W better?)
HDD : 1TB
RAM : 8GB
Monitor : 23 or 24 inch (preferably not Dell S2340L as the screen is reflective. I am using it in my office)

Thank you.
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Are you gonna overclock? hmm.gif

CPU:Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM819
MoBo:Asrock H97-Pro4 RM329
GPU:Gainward GTX970 4GB GDDR5 RM1099
RAM:Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM244
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM174
PSU:Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM299
Monitor:LG 23MP65HQ RM549
Total:RM3513
Optional:Intel 530 Series 120GB RM259
GPU is from IdealTech,the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Difference is only the 80+ Gold and 80+ Bronze,AFAIK.Former comes at RM409 though. tongue.gif
Also,the MSI GTX970 Gaming 4GB GDDR5 is priced at RM1499..that's gonna over your budget.

QUOTE(amimaumakan @ Jan 3 2015, 08:58 AM)
The tp link is it a usb adapter or a network card?? I prefer atx mobo and furthermore if i pay by cash does it entitle me to get a lot cheaper hehe  icon_idea.gif
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USB Wifi Adapter.Refined.

CPU:Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz RM589
MoBo:Asrock H97-Pro4 RM329
GPU:Sapphire R7 265 Dual-X OC 2GB GDDR5 RM529
RAM:Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM244
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM174
PSU:FSP Hexa+ 550W RM169
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Wifi:TP-Link WN821N RM29
Monitor:Samsung S22C170BS RM349
Total:RM2620
Prices are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

I've no idea.

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post Jan 3 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(wkh_united @ Jan 3 2015, 09:19 AM)
I saw some review saying that overclocking CPU does not really boost the performance, unless overclocking the GPU.
Correct me if I am wrong.
If I want to overclock CPU, the mobo also needs to be changed to z97?
Since it is just around 600W, a 80+ Bronze will be enough or a 80+ Gold (better but that would be up to my budget right?)?

Sorry for asking so many questions at once. Really need your experience here.
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Some games for CPU,even after you overclocked it,the performance will be the same.Take Watch Dogs for example. nod.gif
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Yup,and you also need a CPU Cooler.Will be over your budget. tongue.gif Plus the i7 4790k costs around RM11xx,since games from 2014 utilises them cores,better get Xeon or i7 4790k if u want to OC. wink.gif

It'll be enough,even a good quality 500W is enough for the GTX970. tongue.gif But i'd rather have some headroom. wink.gif

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post Jan 3 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(amimaumakan @ Jan 3 2015, 12:58 PM)
the best shop in lowyat plaza which one eh?
the best price (cheaper compare to other) i did say startec but this just turn me off to go there ...
is it always happening to startec customer? ( i know those are old thread but maybe they haven't changed)
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The cheaper the price doesn't mean it has good service. tongue.gif

I'd suggest Viewnet,even other sifus vouch for them. wink.gif
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post Jan 3 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(wkh_united @ Jan 3 2015, 06:13 PM)
Thank you Minecrafter!!

If I would like to opt for overclocking, which cpu and mobo combination would be the most recommended?
I think I will push my budget higher to get either a MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G or ASUS GTX 970 Strix.
Can't decide which to go for.
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i7 4790k RM11xx and Asrock Z97 Extreme4 RM579. tongue.gif Cheaper option for the motherboard would be Gigabyte Z97X-SLI RM469.Also need to add CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212X RM149. nod.gif

I'd go with the latter. tongue.gif But then,it'll be over your budget since u want to overclock too.If i were in your shoes,i'd just get Gainward GTX970 and use extra money on getting overclocking stuffs. tongue.gif
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post Jan 3 2015, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(wkh_united @ Jan 3 2015, 06:40 PM)
I thought i5 is more than sufficient for gaming already?
i5 4690k is not good?
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For games like BF4 and Watch Dogs,it's better to get Xeon E3-1231 V3 or i7 4790 or the i7 4790k.
Due to the fact that most games from 2014 are utilising them cores. sweat.gif



QUOTE(Fadhliyevich44 @ Jan 3 2015, 06:56 PM)
Hi, I got some question to ask. Lets say, if I want to put 2400mhz ram memory on motherboard that support maximum up to 2133mhz memory, what will happen?? For the long term, does any problem will occur??
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It'll run at the speed that the motherboard allows to(The max speed).

lace,one of the low profile coolers i know is Noctua NH-L9i RM169.IdealTech is selling them at RM169. nod.gif
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post Jan 3 2015, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2015, 08:18 PM)
sometimes i felt a bit regret didn't go for oc setup instead previously...feeling like to throw money for i7+z97+970 tongue.gif
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You want to buy it soon? brows.gif If so,budget?Also,your current rig specs. tongue.gif
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post Jan 3 2015, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(twinzeero @ Jan 3 2015, 08:19 PM)
someone help me in this rig

Budget : 3-3.5K (not include Monitor,keyboard+mouse and speaker)
Purpose : gaming

tq ~~~
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Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4Ghz RM819
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM329
Gainward GTX979 4GB GDDR5 RM1099
Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM244
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM174
Intel 530 Series 120GB RM259
Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
CM K380 RM149
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM3461
GPU is from IdealTech,the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif
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post Jan 3 2015, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(RedFezz @ Jan 3 2015, 08:21 PM)
If im going to choose intel processor..in your opinion..which one is better?

Xeon E3-1231 V3 vs  i7-4790 = ?
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Xeon E3-1231 V3 vs i5-4690 = ?
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For the Xeon or i7 4790,either one will do. nod.gif

For the Xeon or i5..i'll take the former. tongue.gif

QUOTE(twinzeero @ Jan 3 2015, 08:25 PM)
nowadays many change to xeon instead i7, gotta try it to see the performance  laugh.gif  tq sifu  notworthy.gif
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Because the price.. brows.gif Difference is only the speed,(200MHz slower than i7 4790) and no iGP.
Performance ifference is just tiny bit. biggrin.gif

Oh also,the name for the GPU is GTX970,not 979.


Always misspelled it.. doh.gif

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post Jan 4 2015, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(aishulicious @ Jan 4 2015, 07:09 AM)
hello, quick question. Im going to get Sapphire R9 280x later on, due to some research i did on sapphire website, it says that 750 Watt Power Supply is required. I'm using 620w vantec ion2 PSU. It's been 5 years to this March. So now i need to upgrade my PSU to 750w and above am i correct? or no? Help!
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A good quality 600-650W is enough. nod.gif Like Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299.
I've not heard your current PSU.. hmm.gif I'd suggest you not to use the R9 280X until you get the PSU.Also,your CPU may cause bottleneck. wink.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kdr31 @ Jan 4 2015, 08:56 AM)
using 8 series mobo on haswell refresh need to update the BIOS right?
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Yup,you need to do so. wink.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(aishulicious @ Jan 4 2015, 12:21 PM)
My current cpu may cause bottleneck? :/ then what do you propose? My old gpu is dead and currently using my friend's gtx670, borrow from him for awhile. Yeah its an old PSU, Vantec ion2. Been using it for almost 5 years without any problem. If i need to change a psu then i will get the Seasonic too later.
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Yup,it may cause bottleneck.What is your CPU Cooler?Stock cooler? hmm.gif You can try to overclock it to minimise the bottlenecking. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Jan 4 2015, 06:23 PM)
Please recommend me, thanks in advance.

[Budget]
- RM1,500

[Purpose]
- Photoshop/Illustrator
- Light gaming
- HD playback

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- Casing
- PSU: Corsair VS550
- HDD
- DVD Rom

[Hardwares needed]
- Processor
- RAM (prefer 8GB)
- GPU

[Monitor resolution]
- 1920x1080
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Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4Ghz RM819
Sapphire R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 RM419
Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM244
Total:RM1472
Prices are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

What kind of games do you play?Also,you don't need a motherboard? hmm.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(freemind21 @ Jan 4 2015, 08:11 PM)
Hello sifu, just want to ask if this a good build already. I can add around rm500 more.

GPU (ignore for now) : Gainward GTX 970

CPU:Intel Core i7 4790k 4GHz
Motherboard :Asrock Z97 Extreme4
RAM:Any 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
PSU:Seasonic M12II 80+ Bronze 620W Modular
Casing: Bitfenix Neos / Nxzt H440
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I thought you didn't want to overclock? hmm.gif

QUOTE(lace @ Jan 4 2015, 08:26 PM)
non oc cpu oc mbo

wasted

mobo change to MoBo:Asrock H97-Pro4  329

ure good to go
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Bro,that is an unlocked i7.. sweat.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(freemind21 @ Jan 4 2015, 08:11 PM)
Hello sifu, just want to ask if this a good build already. I can add around rm500 more.

GPU (ignore for now) : Gainward GTX 970

CPU:Intel Core i7 4790k 4GHz
Motherboard :Asrock Z97 Extreme4
RAM:Any 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
PSU:Seasonic M12II 80+ Bronze 620W Modular
Casing: Bitfenix Neos / Nxzt H440
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QUOTE(freemind21 @ Jan 4 2015, 08:35 PM)
wanting to overclock later (after finish the rig) , since i7 4790 and i7 4790k difference in price is only abit.  hmm.gif
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I see.I hope you know how to overclock. biggrin.gif Also,add a CPU Cooler,CM Hyper 212X RM149. nod.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Jan 4 2015, 09:34 PM)
1st of all, so sorry about that, I need motherboard as well.

@lace
- I just realized my PSU is VS450, can it cater to GTX970 well?

@Minecrafter
-Are you saying that processor > GPU is more suitable for my need?
- I'll be just playing some light game such as DOTA 2 & LoL.
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Can change GPU to Sapphire R7 250X 1GB GDDR5 RM319,and use extra money to get Asrock H81M-VG4 RM159 or Asrock B85M-HDS RM239
Yes,for youe usage,CPU > GPU. wink.gif

QUOTE(lace @ Jan 4 2015, 10:01 PM)
dota n lol
i5 4460
can give it a go ady save some money
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For stuffs like Photoshop,better get Xeon E3-1231 V3 or i7 4790. wink.gif
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QUOTE(aishulicious @ Jan 4 2015, 11:21 PM)
hello Minecrafter, sorry bothering you. I have one question. I just bought Sapphire R9 280x Vapor and  Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W just now, but when reach home suddenly i felt like changing it to a Modular PSU, i didnt use the S12II yet, just open box and take a look. Is there any other brand for modular psu recommended other than the one you're using right now which is the M12II-520? Like Corsair or Antec? Thanks  biggrin.gif
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Lol don't worry. biggrin.gif Umm,the one i'm getting is in my "Upcoming" build,not "Current".. sweat.gif
I'd suggest the Seasonic M12II 80+ Bronze 620W Modular RM359. wink.gif


QUOTE(lace @ Jan 5 2015, 01:13 AM)
err i missde the sssd
anyway even wth the ssd on
i still think shud go gpu firsr then 16gb of ram
unless if he really eat up all his 8gb then the ram upgrade will come first...
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For rendering,CPU > RAM > GPU. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Jan 5 2015, 10:20 AM)
which air cooler will fit in Corsair Air 240 casing? can recommend me?
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The case only supports upto 120mm CPU Cooler.. sweat.gif
Noctua NH-L9i RM169 from IdealTech.Are you overclocking?
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post Jan 5 2015, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Jan 5 2015, 03:23 PM)
slightly  sweat.gif
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Should be fine,since it's better than stock cooler.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Jan 5 2015, 06:04 PM)
Will cheaper motherboard bottleneck the performance of the processor?
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No.Motherboards doesn't increase nor decrease the performance.. wink.gif
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post Jan 6 2015, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Jan 5 2015, 10:34 PM)
I thought PCIe2 mobo will bottleneck a PCIe3 mid & high-end gpu performance?
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His question was about CPU,for GPU different thing. biggrin.gif PCI-E 2.0 difference is really tiny.But if it's with the 1.0..then some difference,IINM. tongue.gif

QUOTE(moron88 @ Jan 5 2015, 11:53 PM)
Hi guys, asking on behalf of my friend. Thanks

[Budget] 3.5k including monitor

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard and mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Latest games

[Personal preferences] gtx 970, if possible would like to purchase all from a shop in lowyat which can pay by installment.

[Location] LYP
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Eh,3.5K is possible with GTX970.. brows.gif

CPU:Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM819
MoBo:Asrock H97-Pro4 RM329
GPU:MSI GTX970 4GD5T RM1249 - IINM,another name for it is Tiger OC.
RAM:Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM244
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM174
PSU:Seasonic M12II 80+ Bronze 520W Modular RM269-279
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:Samsung S22C170BS RM349
Total:RM3641
Prices are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

That is over budget,but you can haggle with them to get it cheaper or switch out the MoBo to Asrock B85M-HDS RM239. nod.gif

About paying with installment,i've no idea.
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