SW5-271-69SE




Intel M-5Y10a / 4 GB / 128GB / BT 4.0 / HD Webcam / 12.5" IPS FHD Multi Touch / W8.1
Genuine Windows® 8.1 64-bit
Intel® Core M-5Y10a processor (4 MB L3 cache, 0.8 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.0 GHz, DDR3L 1600 MHz, 4.5 W TDP), supporting Intel® 64 architecture, Intel® Smart Cache
Intel® HD Graphics 5300, supporting OpenGL® 4.2, OpenCL 1.2, Microsoft® DirectX® 11.1
12.5" IPS display, FHD 1920 x 1080 resolution, high-brightness, LED-backlit TFT LCD, supporting 10-finger touch
4 GB of DDR3L memory
128 GB SSD
Acer HD Webcam, 1280 x 720 resolution
Acer InviLink™ Nplify™ 802.11 a/b/g/n Wireless, supporting 2.4GHz & 5 GHz
Bluetooth® 4.0
36 Wh 3220 mAh 11.4 V 3-cell Li-ion battery pack
Estimated battery life: Up to 8 hours
Micro SD card reader
Micro USB 3.0 port, USB 2.0 port
HDMI™ Micro port with HDCP support
1.4kg with Keyboard
317 (W) x 220.6 (D) x 9.5/16.5 (H) mm

This post has been edited by Beouwulf: Feb 15 2015, 07:54 PM

Looking to have a closer look to this item, do you know where I can get to do that?

does this comes with 8gb ram instead of fixed 4gb ram only

I am getting my unit today, stay tuned~

what's the point of this thread? A show off?

i'm interested in this as well.
Can give some comment about the active pen? i think its from synaptics and doesn't seem to be better than n-trig and wacom..

Arrived today



Unboxing in progress



More pictures coming...stay tuned

This post has been edited by babyk: Jan 27 2015, 06:28 PM

Acer Switch 12 Review
After using it for 1 week, here’s my verdict.

Display
Positive: The screen is nice, it is powered by 1920x1080 resolution and the screen is sharp. Brightness wise is very good. It has 10 fingers sensors for touch screen, pinch to zoom and double tap to click works fine. It has accelerometer and it can rotate any direction you want. It comes with Acer Pen and it works perfectly fine. Drawing on the screen is not an issue and it can recognize your palm touching on the screen and will not take that into your touch.
Negative: It is glossy type and if you are typing under the sun, it will be very reflective. The touch screen is not as intelligent as Apple iPad or iPhone, there is no predictive touch, if you point to a small text, you need to point it precisely or else it will not click on that text. If you are coming from Apple iPad or iPhone users, you will see this immediately.

Processor

Battery
Keyboard / Pointing Stick
USB Port / Micro SD Slot
SSD
Memory/RAM



***************work in progress**********************

This post has been edited by babyk: Feb 4 2015, 01:48 AM

I just disect my new laptop

looks great..

i'm wondering whether the ram and the ssd are soldered to the board..

This post has been edited by willgan: Jan 27 2015, 08:04 PM

I am trying to figure out as well. As I know the SSD can be upgraded, RAM is not sure yet.

Will update you guys soon
Flying off to Kimchi land now

just got my unit, looks great so far. Here are some of my comments..

The digitizer works pretty well in scribbling and note taking, but not superb.
Haven't really tested the battery life, but i think should be around 8-9 hours browsing internet with wifi and average brightness.
Will try gaming this weekend and see how long it can last..

The keyboard works good since its a wireless , bluetooth keyboard.
I'm ok with the missing touchpad since i'm familiar with the pointing stick. If you're not use to pointing stick, you might have problem using the mouse pointer.

The keyboard is not Bluetooth, it's running on RF. The default Bluetooth is not switched on.

Just dissect my Switch 12 again! SSD can be upgraded

review on performance, size and bla bla ....
ram can update ?

And battery life!

Also, isn't it annoying that the screen faces out when closed so it's not protected in-bag?

yah true .....
how performance compare with i3 on surface pro ?

it comes with a sleeve..

the screen is gorilla glass 3 therefore won't get scratches easily..

just need some extra careful when taking out and keeping it.. don't think it has much issue..

great to hear that...

can give some pointer's how u manage to open the main portion, don't see any screw..
don't want to risk breaking any parts

thanks

btw any shop have display unit ????
try digital mall they don't have and cost 2349

RRP is RM2299, don't buy anything above RRP and remember it comes with free sleeve and touch pen

I saw this at Paradigm Mall. Salivating to buy. Those who bought it how is the pen? It is a digitizer pen or just a normal capacitive one?

Digitizer, like the Samsung Note 4

Can I know which shop in Paradigm? Want to take a look before buying. Thanks

The big IT shop there. I think Harvey Norman or something. Went there last Saturday to collect my racekit for this Sunday run. I am not a frequent visitor to the mall.

Thanks. . Will look around

if you're desperate, check out the acer shop at ground floor, lowyat plaze, it has display unit there, try it until u like it..

This post has been edited by willgan: Feb 4 2015, 05:33 PM

its a synaptics digitizer..NKOTB (new kid on the block)
its close to n-trig in surface pro 3..

is it good? it works ok from my point of view (as a normal user).. its actually a bonus for that price of the switch which is a 5-in-1 convertible ..

I am having one complaint with the stylus, the battery worn out just after 3-4 days of usage. after replacing the battery (bought the AAAA battery from radioshack) it works good until the third day then it does not register on the screen. I need to take out the battery and put it back to have it registered. Can you guys share if there is specific instruction on handling the stylus or is it mine is broken?

PS: I really love using Switch 12

i don't seem to have this problem yet but i don't constantly use it for a long period..

i don't keep the pen near the tab though..

I put the pen at the side of the sleeve, normally I just use it for 20 minutes each session. I haven't charge it since friday now does the magnetic of the tab/laptop drains the battery?

Lol.. not so desperate la.

But looking something around 2000. I just worry it's performance is not good enough. Of course I am not looking for heavy gaming with this. I prefer desktop with that. But still hope that can play not so graphic intensive game like football manager 2015. Need mobility and prefer a tablet laptop rather than a typcial laptop for now.

how the performance compare with i3 ???
upgradable ram ???
thanks i think i need ram more than proc

Broadwell Core M processor is supposed to be better than i3 and less than i5 or on par with i5

RAM is soldered, SSD upgradeable, I am getting my 256GB soon and will do a clone on my 128GB

any idea the weight of it without keyboard?

How is the performance when playing games like The Sims 4 etc.

I am sorry, I am not a gamer, I don't install any games on my laptop, I only play games via consoles

So I can't give you any comment on that

Guys, what's the best pice for getting new one currently u guys know?

Harvey Norman? Lowyat plaza? Digital mall?

Without keyboard around 1.2kg

my pg seller quote me rm 2199 ...

Is the keyboard Got backlight?

No backlight, go for MacBook air 11" if you are looking for one

Please share details!

No la... buy mac i rather go higher spec or surface pro 3.
My friend looking for this too, he asking me. Anyway thx for the reply

How's the 128gb SSD? good enough?

May I know roughly how much space is available when new?

Nearly 105GB when new

The capacity depends on your usage, for me it's ok, I added on 64GB microSD for my documents

Ok. Thanks. I went to pavillion to take a look. Unfortunately, harvey norman only until is kept inside a cabinet and they dont allowed me to test. I will go other place to test first before buying. But it seems to big slightly bigger den I expect. Is it fine bringing around to use as a tablet in your opinion?

i went to paradigm mall ,pj. the Harvey norman have display unit, and the sales person willing to take out the stylus for me to try.
however, the price stays RM2299 no nego. only will discount RM100 if u extend the warranty by paying extar RM3xx.

u might want to check the acer super care 1 which include warranty up to 3 years, its RRP is RM198, i believe u can nego with them..

This post has been edited by willgan: Feb 9 2015, 07:36 PM

from my opinion, if u want to use it as a casual tablet, its slightly bigger but i don't see a problem as its not so heavy (1.1-1.2kg) if u take off the keyboard and leave it in the bag.
i prefer to put it as a stand on the table as its easier to just use the finger and flip ebooks or websites.
It only takes a small space to put it in a stand mode and u can use the wireless keyboard to surf the website while sitting.

i think its best to check out the demo before deciding..

How is it to use on the lap?
As good as a normal laptop or compromised like the Surface?

can u elaborate what's the issue with surface ?

u can take a look at the 5 different layouts and imagine how it will feels like on your lap.

i think it should be pretty steady if its in a laptop mode and rest on your lap because the keyboard will be in-front and the tablet is in the middle if you're in a sitting position.
If u flatten it like a tab, the keyboard will be attached to the back, and this means , the back of the tablet is protected by another layer of protection below, therefore the back of the tablet won't get scratch so easily on a rough surface if u flatten it.

As for the second question of whether its good as a normal laptop, it depends on your definition of a normal laptop.
Its slightly better than i3 (haswell) and it has sufficient ram to run casual applications. It will be better of with 256GB storage (i wonder why they only have 128gb, its clearly not enough, because this machine can run 2010-2013 games at reasonable speed and some of them are like in 10-20gb)..

Oh.. one more thing.. it boots latest UBUNTU from USB thumbdrive very well.. WIFI and gfx is working..

just some comments.

This post has been edited by willgan: Feb 10 2015, 01:05 PM

Both my questions relate to the same thing 'lapability' ie typing with the device on your lap, sitting down with your legs down or up on a stool.

u can use a micro sd card (64gb) with switch 12 right? Can certain program be installed in it

after u insert the card, it will show as removable drive.. make sure u format it to ntfs instead of fat32 ... not sure about exfat..
u can install steam games in it .. i don't see why u can't install program in it..

looks more like a portable desktop for me

that bad their service ????
for me impossible to buy without test

Exactly!
I am busy this week. I will go somewhere else that d forumers mention can test before deciding.

Can we use dropbox and sync to the microSD?

Go Lowyat level 3 acer you can test it there

finally upgraded my ssd to 240gb crucial m.2 ...
working great....

You replace it yourself or shop? How much Is it? How about d OS?

Sorry for asking too many questions. Just interested if not too expensive or troublesome

Just saw it in Digital Mall PJ.

Good design and can easily be used on the lap while sitting (easier than SP3).

However, screen was quite dim at full brightness - any owners find the screen to dim?

don't use the auto brightness..

SSD = RM440, others = 0

check with acer whether can upgrade it or diy if you're brave enough..

Looking to buy it this few days if I am satisfied after testing it. Anyone got recommendations of trustable place to purchase it?

I saw a display model on the 2nd floor of Digital Mall and Senq in Plaza Damas, but haven't bought yet.

Once the auto brightness is switched off the screen is bright as willgan said.

Also, stable on lap and table and keyboard good as well as the nipple-mouse but mouse buttons a bit hard.

Nice to type without a palm rest as the screen is close enough to touch easily. The keyboard works from over 2 metres away...it's not bluetooth but rf technology.

Only 1 USB and 1 mini USB 3, which I guess can only be used with an adapter.

The box also has a stylus pen and a nice fitting sleeve.

Would any owner comment on battery life?

2 models available: Core M-5Y10a and Core M-5Y10c.
I wonder if there's a significant difference?


This post has been edited by hkh m43: Feb 12 2015, 08:00 PM

haven't fully tested it.. but my rough estimate are

Without wifi, reading ebooks - 9-10 hours
with wifi, browsing website - 7-8 hours
gaming - 3-4 hours

i have 2 laptop power bank at 15000 mAh and 18000 mAh, mili and enerpad, both can charge it.. probably double or triple the usage..

the a and c.. i don't think got much different as the c has higher gpu base frequency.. not sure about the battery life differences

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel...microprocessors

This post has been edited by willgan: Feb 13 2015, 03:01 PM

Intel Broadwell benchmark

according to this, the new intel chip is surprising well beating some part of sp3 specs...

Thats 5y70 .. not acer switch 12 5y10 right?

yes but basically show the power and the future of core M abilities.

from most the benchmark, the core m-5y10 should able to beat the SP3 i3 version but not the i5 version..
Other than beating the i3, it has 2x longer battery because of the lower TDP.
the more interesting one is m-5y71 , where it should be near i5 performance but don't think the graphics is better than i5 with HD 4400..
Maybe with better graphic drivers.. the HD5300 should be able to match the HD4400 in the future..

Helix 2 has m-5y71, but I'm not sure real-world performance is significantly better than m-5y10.

This review is for specs which has a fast ssd and 8gb ram:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkP...w.136241.0.html

I check out a few places on lowyat plaza. All sellin at 2399. I thought rrp 2299?

RM2399 is for m-5y10c
RM2299 is for m-5y10a

Ok. Make any difference c and a? Unlikely to have major difference I think

don't think there are much different ..
from the specs , i know that the base gpu for c is higher than a (300 vs 100)
not sure whether it will make any different if you're playing games which most probably will need the gpu to run at max speed..
probably it make different in less gpu intensive stuff like watching movie or flash.. just a guess..

Finally got the Acer Switch 12.

Bought a 32gb MicroSD as extra storage temporarily.

It seems like i cant watch/dl drama using program like xigua. Is it windows 8 problem?(first time using window 8) or the program itself got problem? any program recommendation?

So far used it for a few hours so fasr so good. bought a bluetooth mouse for it. Havent fully tested everything.

Just cloned my 128GB SSD to 256GB SSD

great...
i'm enjoying my 240GB SSD as well.. definitely worth upgrading..

others.. do take note the ssd is m.2 sata 2280 (22mm x 80mm)

great to hear that you have decided on the switch..

not sure about that program that you're referring to... what's the problem? error? did u check the firewall settings..
make sure u install an anti-virus if u use any of these player...

i would also suggest to remove all bloatwares...

Yes, LiteOn write speed is too slow!

I am used to 600MB/s Read, 550MB/s Write SSD

How u did that? Where can do this service?

I can do this, just pass me your old SSD and new SSD

Btw, Sandisk


Although it's slower than my OCZ Vertex 4 but I am more than happy than the LiteOn

This post has been edited by babyk: Feb 17 2015, 07:07 PM

I found out is my school wifi blocked many programs. everything is fine

Hi,

Some more questions:

- How is the pen performance for (a) writing and (b) drawing?

- Where's the best place in KL to get a new SSD?

- What do you do with your old SSD?

Thanks!

Can it run Photoshop smoothly? But only simple image editing la. That's my main concern. Plan to use it to replace my Zenbook UX21 cos thought I can also use it to give one-to-one presentations. Don't do any gaming so that's not a source of concern.

Edit:
By the way, just realized that the stand cannot be flipped to the front so the keyboard cannots to the bottom of the screen direct. It won't feel too loose if placed on the lap? And not too "close" to the screen, given the keyboard's kinda short.

This post has been edited by ipporek: Feb 22 2015, 10:05 AM

u can check the cpu specs .. if the zenbook is i5 one.. .m-5y10 probably performed better..

I don't have photoshop.. so can't really test it.. gimp runs fine..
as well as visual studio ..

the keyboard has magnet that stick to the stand..
i don't have any problem typing while its in laptop mode.. or browsing in the stand mode..
its best to try out yourself ..

This post has been edited by willgan: Feb 23 2015, 11:41 AM

I don't suppose there's anywhere really recommended to go to buy this, but anywhere NOT recommended to go?

Is the default SSD really that bad? Cos if its about space I also don't mind getting an additional SD card. If replace the SSD then the old one wasted?

I am using it for simple work. I find d space so far ok. Not like I will install a lot program on it. I use a 32gb microsd card as additional memory.

Anyway I used it to play dota 2. So far so good. No lag and it's enjoyable

You can use the old SSD as USB drive boot and it will give you additional 100GB with additional OS

Bought the Switch 12 yday from Lowyat. 2249.

Realize one thing I'm gonna miss (as compared to my Zenbook) is the ability to charge my phone with the laptop closed (but plugged in). And speaking of plug, the power brick is more of a brick than that of the Zenbook.

Anyway, gotta start getting familiar with it. The power switch seems a little sensitive though. Kinda easy to accidentally turn on.

Sounds interesting. I looked for instructions on the web but couldn't find any, do you have a link on how to do this?

Where's a good place to buy a new ssd and approximate prices?

This post has been edited by hkh m43: Feb 26 2015, 08:39 AM

Before you boot, go into Boot menu and select boot from USB.

how to make the ssd in to a usb drive...need to insert in an adapter?

Gotta format as NTFS? I realized it being formatted as NTFS (bought a 64GB SanDisk Ultra), when inserted into my other laptop using a card reader/adapter (whatever you call it), it's somehow not recognized properly.

Or is it some prob with my card reader/adapter (as in that it only recognizes FAT32 or till a certain size)? Just read online that Android doesn't support NTFS so I shouldn't even bother inserting my Note 3 to try there.

Btw, sorry for the noob questions.

This post has been edited by ipporek: Feb 26 2015, 05:40 PM