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hkh m43
post Mar 13 2015, 11:08 PM

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Does 5Y10c have a different wireless adapter?
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post Mar 14 2015, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Mar 14 2015, 01:29 AM)
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Wireless LAN: Acer Nplify 802.11a/b/g/n
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The one I have is a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222...it's a bit erratic in it's connectivity and I ws wondering whether it'll be possible to switch out the card for another one, assuming it's not soldered on.

What do you think?
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post Mar 14 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Mar 14 2015, 11:18 AM)
Yes, you can change the wifi Bluetooth card, it's the mini PCIe but make sure the profile is correct as there is not much free space in terms of height
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Thanks, how does one open the Switch?

It'd be great if you could pen down a simple and short step-by-step guide.

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post Mar 19 2015, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(ipporek @ Mar 19 2015, 12:29 PM)
Kenna the ports disabled issue again suddenly. And not cos of any updates this time. Seem to be after I was trying repeatedly to connect to a wifi network but had issues connecting.
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I shared before my wifi issues...this Switch 12 drops connection more than other devices I have, and has less range.

I haven't opened it up but some have and said the pci-based wifi card can potentially be changed.

If anyone sees some opening-up guide then please share. Also, any opinions on improving wifi stability by changing the QUALCOMM Atheros AR5BWB222 card to something more stable.
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post Mar 20 2015, 08:53 AM

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Thanks.

I did adjust all power options so no power saving on adapter or battery.

Problem is the wifi drops more than other devices in one particular location, home office. The office is a little far from the router and it's a condo with lots of neighbourly wifi interference. Other places in the condo are fine, as well as outside.


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post Mar 20 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ipporek @ Mar 20 2015, 01:31 PM)
Adjust the power to avoid wifi drop? In what sense?
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1. Advanced power settings (battery and plugged in)
2. Wireless Network Adapter advanced settings for power management

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post Mar 21 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Jan 30 2015, 11:35 PM)
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Just dissect my Switch 12 again! SSD can be upgraded
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How did you open the case?
Bottom stand by unscrewing the screws, how about the screen section?

Thanks!
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post Mar 21 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Mar 21 2015, 11:54 AM)
Bottom case is only battery and keyboard charging/controller extention connector from the mainboard
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Thanks, helpful.

How did you open the top part - any screws, do you just try and pry open along the seam?


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post Mar 25 2015, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Mar 25 2015, 01:47 PM)
ok ... t300 launch but i go for switch 12 ....
cause is not worth paying extra 700 for slim design n better procs.
thought they bring in t300 higher spec with QHD, 8g ram n 5y71.
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Hope it serves you well.
Tips - you may want to turn off auto brightness and also increase the sensitivity of the trackpoint in the mouse settings.

Did you get the a or c processor model?

Do you have a qualcomm Atheros wireless network adapter?

If you manage to open up and change the ssd, let us know how you open and close please.

Thanks
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:52 PM

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You all probably know that one of the first things to do is turn off adaptive brightness - I find it too aggressive and it didn't give me the brightness levels I wanted.

I recently turned off Lumiflex which apparently adjusts colour saturation to optimise readability according to ambient brightness.

The effect of Lumiflex has been minimal for me - I can't see the difference with it on or off.

However, battery life is a little better, as I guess the system no longer needs to check ambient conditions.
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post Apr 21 2015, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Apr 20 2015, 11:25 PM)
Yah this i agree with u, my switch 12 cant detect my wifi, but my other laptop, win tablet, andoridtblet, phone all can detect ....
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It's fine at close distance but suddenly drops off.

I suspect it's poor quality or poor placement of the internal wifi attenna.

I might take to Acer to investigate.
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post Apr 24 2015, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Apr 24 2015, 01:13 PM)
anyone having this funny issue .....
my screen (screen, Proc or HD) will sudden die, before die it freeze (nothing working) than turn to black screen for 1-2 second than back to live .....
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I've suffered this, but very rarely.

Using DriverMax I've seen the display driver is out of date, so maybe that'll fix it - I haven't updated myself, yet.
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post Apr 27 2015, 04:24 PM

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If anyone has instructions on how to open and close the case to upgrade the ssd, please share.

Thanks
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post Apr 30 2015, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Apr 29 2015, 10:46 PM)
guy i have one stupid question ..........
how to use that pen ? and that two button for ??
thanks
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Lots of pen programs to try like Onenote or Journal or drawing programs. Can also markup office and pdf documents with the pen.

The pen has palm rejection so when the tip is near the screen you can rest your palm on it and only the pen is registered.
Also, the harder you press the thicker the line.
The buttons change the function, eg eraser or right click I think there are settings for this.
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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 30 2015, 07:00 PM)
kindly share where you buy stylus pen compatible with this laptop. tq
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The pen came free with the device when I bought it so I don't know where to buy it, but check the service centres as they may sell them:

http://www.acer.com.my/ac/en/MY/content/hi...enters-location


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post May 2 2015, 08:07 PM

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Anyone who has changed their ssd, please share simple instructions on how to open and close the case.

Is it just held together by clips that snap open and shut easily or are there some things need care to look out for?

Do we need to open the stand section as well as the main section, or can you just open the main section?

Thanks in advance
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post May 9 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(hkh m43 @ May 2 2015, 08:07 PM)
Anyone who has changed their ssd, please share simple instructions on how to open and close the case.

Is it just held together by clips that snap open and shut easily or are there some things need care to look out for?

Do we need to open the stand section as well as the main section, or can you just open the main section?

Thanks in advance
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Took the plunge and opened myself. It's surprisingly easy.

For the screen part (which contains the motherboard) there are no screws. Just insert a fingernail and pry open at the seam, but be careful as the plastic fasteners are not the strongest. Easy to snap open and close, but be careful as there are 2 insulated wires connecting the display section to the stand.

For the stand/battery part, first need to unscrew the 6 exposed screws and then follow the same procedure above (insert a fingernail in the seam etc).

I don't think there's any comparison to the horror stories you hear of opening Apple and Microsoft devices.


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post May 13 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(zack9999 @ May 13 2015, 01:29 PM)
Switch 12 looks bulky but it has far more ports than Asus T300, which lacks USB port.
I think I will go for Surface 3 because I like the ability to change using a Micro USB port and it has a full USB port.
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I would view it in store (and make sure auto brightness is off) before you make up your mind.
What I found is that the size is the right balance between productivity and convenience.
It gives more room than an 11.6 inch or S3 or SP3 screen but is still portable.

Depending on your use case, S3 may be too small to be productive.

See this review, one of the better ones:

http://www.ultrabookreview.com/7177-acer-switch-12-review/

What the reviewer doesn't say is that it's very stable on the lap (more than a normal laptop and definitely more than a Surface) and the advantage of the wireless keyboard is that you can put the screen on some books so it's eye-level and still use the keyboard.
Also the keyboard is probably better than Surface. Being closer to the screen means you actually touch it more...something people don't do with laptops as the screen is quite far from your fingers.
The size may be big, but users don't hold tablets larger than 8 inches - they're normally on a lap or propped up with a stand, so the integrated stand of this and Surface makes more sense than a tablet without a stand.

On the negative side, it looks like a Thinkpad being black plastic and not as sleek as a Surface.
Also, it's a niche product, very few people know about, but everyone knows the Surface and Apple and that has its advantages.


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post May 13 2015, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(zack9999 @ May 13 2015, 02:07 PM)
Yes, I would say it is more lapable than a Surface 3. It really cheaper too if you compare the features (ie. Switch comes with 128GB, keyboard and a better processor for less than RM2400 where a Surface 3 will be more than RM2800 if you want to add a keyboard, and pen).
Most reviewers say one of the flaw is the way the keyboard is charged ie you have to put the keyboard at the back to charge and it can't be charged while using the keyboard. Do you find it an annoyance?
I have seen a working unit in a shop and the screen looked a bit dim. Is this because of the auto brightness setting?
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On price, look for used models.

I've never had the keyboard run out of battery. It's not Bluetooth more like the dongle-type wireless, so it's long range and low battery usage. I don't see this as a problem at all.

The design is actually unique and fantastic, and the biggest flaw which could've been fixed is the hinge not allowing the screen to be covered when it's closed, meaning you have to use the case or a sleeve. Normal laptops and Surface are thus simpler.

Yes, the screen is actually very bright - need to turn the auto brightness off.







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post May 13 2015, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 13 2015, 09:03 PM)
Why jumped your gun?

I have china brand 8", Lenovo Miix-3 830 and Surface 3 (non-pro).
I use Lenovo Miix-3 830 the most.
I use my Lenovo Miix-3 830 (with a bluetooth mouse) to do powerpoint presentations (via usb video adapter).
All my other business partners used notebook, ultrabook, Macbook Air. They looked at me in awe. 

8-10" is the best for tablet.
Hold it with a hand while I wait for my flight @ airport.
I can surf net & watch youtubes for hours before I fall asleep on my bed. 
It is more practical to me.

For 12", either Surface 3 pro or Asus T300 chi.
Try hold your 12" Acer switch with one hand for 30 mins-1 hour.
It is too bulky and heavy. The design could be good a year ago.
But it is not good as we have more and more Windows tablets with more compact and portable design.

I don't use my laptop and android tablet for my business trip since I bought the windows tablet.
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Agree the 8 inch is a sweet spot to consume content (or output), but many prefer 12 inches to produce (and consume) content.

Holding anything over 500 grams for over 30 mins will be a strain, that's why many people have stands for their larger tablets.
Also, a pen can be useful.

I don't think the T300 is worth buying compared to Surface or Switch (easy to upgrade the ssd in the Switch btw).





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