Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Proposal Ring and wedding bands, Is it wise to choose non-diamond ring?

views
     
TSlisiang
post Dec 31 2014, 11:05 AM, updated 9y ago

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



As the topic mentioned, i would like to seek some advise from you guys as is it wise to choose a non-diamond ring as a proposal ring? Since there are alot more gem choices other than diamond which can be fractionally cheaper.

I do understand some of the opinion of getting a diamond as they will say us men dont understnd diamond, leave it to women. Or, geting married is once in a lifetime, should get a diamond ring.

But is that really necessary to get one?
TSlisiang
post Dec 31 2014, 11:27 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Dec 31 2014, 11:12 AM)
You could go with Sapphire.. I myself wanted to get it for my wife but I went with a solitaire diamond anyway. I'm very traditional and my idea of a diamond ring is just a simple thin ring that emphasizes the size of the rock. I went with half carat and I think that'll please any girl, really.

Plus, it goes well together with a wedding band.
*
Mind to share how much was the solitaire diamond?

QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 31 2014, 11:16 AM)
Just go get one now and it will save you the trouble throughout your life. Next time if anyone get married or so on when their friends and family flash out the diamond ring. you will get the pressure.
*
They will do that in the future days? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
TSlisiang
post Dec 31 2014, 11:40 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Dec 31 2014, 11:30 AM)
Custom Platinum ring = RM800.
Solitaire 0.5 ct diamond = RM3300

Total = RM4100.

I did get the diamond on sale though. Average price for half carat at the time was around 4k.
*
That was really a sweet deal!


QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 31 2014, 11:33 AM)
You will never know man. my buddy also recently got his wife a diamond ring cause he did not do that when he was younger and it seems everytime wife see ppl having diamond ring she will hint hint. so better do it now and save yourself all the trouble. You will not know how it will be in the future haha.

I bought mine in wah chan.. among all the shops i think they are the one with the affordable price tag. in terms they mark up much lesser. Get one with GIA certificate. 0.5C will cost around 6.5k to 8.5k for the stone itself. All in with the ring i got mine around 9k if not mistaken.

Alot of them they have their own in house certificate for the gem but those cert's i've never actually heard off before. Most of them are selling 0.5C for > 10k.
*
The problem with me now is that i am 24 y/o and currently just started to work. However, i have been together with my gf for 5 years and i was thinking to get engaged with her first (she is same age with me, 24). The purpose of the engagement for me is to give her a promise. Which im thinking to get all the ceremony done after few years.

So, getting a 8k ring i dont think it will be a good idea for me. Any suggestion? sweat.gif
TSlisiang
post Dec 31 2014, 11:47 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 31 2014, 11:43 AM)
Then get a wedding band first lo. older days when she bising only you topup. or maybe when she bising you can start thinking of tukar bini liao. i not sure with the normal wedding bands out there but mine is pretty sure not affordable as well.

Malay or Chinese bro? For malay your only option would be platinum right?
*
Chinese smile.gif Uhrm. Im not so sure about the process thou. Is it i get a proposal ring first or wedding bands for my case?
TSlisiang
post Dec 31 2014, 11:55 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 31 2014, 11:48 AM)
trust me.. i'm not too good at it too. but i got the diamond ring first then later only we go for the wedding band.
*
Thanks anyway wink.gif I think it's better for me to get an engagement ring first notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

TSlisiang
post Jan 2 2015, 01:44 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 31 2014, 01:48 PM)
money is also one of the con in the world maa. don't use money la.  doh.gif
*
Ou yeahhhhhh! +1!
TSlisiang
post Jan 4 2015, 12:12 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jan 3 2015, 01:56 PM)
In short, no. It is not necessary. We are not living in a fairytale land where a diamond ring will guarantee the "live happily ever after". Right?
*
Yes but will it somehow hurt the feeling of the girl if i really did so with, well, lets say another type of gem instead of diamond, sapphire ruby or smth else, which can be pretty as well.
TSlisiang
post Jan 7 2015, 02:34 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 7 2015, 08:58 AM)
Went to 2 tomei outlets i can't find any 0.5c loose diamond at the price of rm4k.. cheapest also rm6.1k... bought your ring yet TS?
*
Nope. Will do survey during the weekend at Midvalley. Any suggested shop that i should go for?
TSlisiang
post Jan 7 2015, 09:27 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 7 2015, 07:47 PM)
I'll say wah chan.. don't bother looking elsewhere.. Habib also.. quite affordable when got discount.

if budget allow go TSL have a look in gardens.. bought my wedding band there.
*
What's TSL? I heard Tomei is quite affordable also. How about diamond and platinum?
TSlisiang
post Jan 8 2015, 09:02 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 8 2015, 08:45 AM)
http://www.tslj.com/en-us/product/categori...ond/px020a.aspx

don't waste your time in diamond and platinum. overpriced imo. If you are chinese you still have much other choices than to platinum. The platinum casing/ring itself they are selling is even more expensive than a 18k white gold.
*
Is it that tslj just sell that sort of diamond band ring(Atelier Ring)? Im looking for a standard diamond on top of the ring.
TSlisiang
post Jan 8 2015, 09:09 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(boxer07 @ Jan 8 2015, 08:47 AM)
juz go for o.3c when ur budget is less than 3.5k ....someone might said can get 0.5c @ 4-5k , but its rare..u can almost forget about it smile.gif  laugh.gif
*
Im not so sure what's the actual size which is appealing to me, either 0.3c or 0.5c. However, if i found any 0.5c which is about 6k, i might go for it even thou im a fresh grad with a tight budget.
TSlisiang
post Jan 8 2015, 09:13 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 8 2015, 09:08 AM)
if you are on budget don't go there for your diamond ring. when you are getting wedding band then only head over and have a look.

So far i guess.. Tomei, Wah Chan, Habib would price their stuff a little more affordable. I'll still prefer wah chan though.
*
Yeap, the wedding band over tslj i quite nice and just wondering, what's Estrella? Is it a brand or special technique to refine the diamond?
TSlisiang
post Jan 8 2015, 09:39 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(boxer07 @ Jan 8 2015, 09:20 AM)
buying diamond is all about budget .... if u buy 0.5c, u might need a bigger casing which cost about at least 1-2k to fit it ..else it might drop or cannot fit it properly... so end up u will spend 10K+- ....lol

go for normal diamond ring which cost 3k include casing+diamond ..no GIA cost the diamond is smaller than 0.3c ... cool2.gif
*
Er... 10k+ with 0.5c? hmm.gif hmm.gif gotta work with my budget then

QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 8 2015, 09:33 AM)
I don't know if it is worth the effort, I got the proposal ring from Lovis Diamond (West Gate) in Singapore. 0.4c / G / IF / triple Ex with GIA cert. HCA score 1.6 for $1775 inclusive of setting. After converting it is just below 5k.

They are selling loose stone and you only choose ring after stone. Takes them 2 weeks - 4 weeks to do the fitting. The great thing about them is that they do list their loose diamond with GIA cert number and price on their website. I basically study all their stone at my budget and ask them to prepare those that I am interested for viewing.
*
Which means 0.3c to 0.4c is my afe choice for my budget then. Anyway, what do you study about their stone? You means you shortlisted those that appeal to you which is within your budget?
TSlisiang
post Jan 8 2015, 09:52 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(boxer07 @ Jan 8 2015, 09:42 AM)
go to the shop only decide how many carat u want to buy ... 0.3 and 0.5c is a big diff in design .... if u buy 0.5c , dont really need to care about cutting , color etc already..go to shop and experience it ....those shop will tell u how to differentiate the quality ...
*
The main reason i dont want to go to shop first is because i hope to get some opinion before i start the hunt. This allows me me know what am i hunting and what should look out for. IMO, i dont really trust any promoters in any field.

QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 8 2015, 09:44 AM)
i am a fact & figure person so i use HCA tool to scope down my choice (Only accept score below 2.0). Basically i decide my budget, the minimum colour and clarity level i can accept to work with.

Frankly the sales person will always try to show you the scope and etc but how often you see a diamond under a scope?
*
Yeap. That's right. Im looking for a guideline that actually works. I know that sometimes we need to see for ourself but how do i know whether my justification was good? Im no expert on this thou.

*Anyway, you're from Sheffield! smile.gif It is a sweet town
TSlisiang
post Jan 8 2015, 10:32 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(boxer07 @ Jan 8 2015, 09:56 AM)
go to wah chan and look for RM3-4k diamond ... see it and compare with similar pricing ...those sales person wont recommend u RM10k diamond if u only look at 4k ..LOL..in fact wah chan seksyen 14 PJ SA only explain to me the diff only..didnt push me to buy for it smile.gif
*
I'll go for midvalley to start the hunt since that alot of jewellery shops can be found here.

QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 8 2015, 10:16 AM)
Was in Sheffield but came back for good, need to start changing my profile laugh.gif

With your budget and the size you are looking at, i felt your best bet is Wah Chan. But then it is such a hassle on the spot to jot down the GIA number on the spot for further research.

Personally when i spend so much I would like to make sure i spend it right thus I try my best to use some tool to evaluate the value. I know HCA tool is not a perfect tool but it give me facts and figure while all other 'measurements' are so subjective.

Here are some street price i gathered in MV during my hunt, note these in house brand emphasize on perfect hear and arrow thus the premium.
*
The GIA number is for me to perform a report checking @ http://www.gia.edu/report-check-landing ?

How about the HCA? Is is available widely in the description of the ring? Or i should made a special request to the salesman to get the number?

Thanks for the share. Appreciated it alot.
TSlisiang
post Feb 18 2015, 04:50 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(Nobita_lam @ Feb 18 2015, 11:39 AM)
Crack? do you know diamond is hardest mineral ?
*
Lel hardest still prone to crack. Do you know the definition of hardness and crack?
TSlisiang
post Mar 26 2015, 09:05 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 26 2015, 12:00 AM)
Small stone with too much cutting will make the stone look too congested.

Color on the other hand is important for all size of stone. U want the pure brilliant shining not the yellowish dirty shine don't you?
*
I agree on your point! Color is important i think as i just bought one with E colour, 0.4c. What i observed is that, clarity is not so important for "non-techy" people while colour define the shininess of the diamond no matter what.
TSlisiang
post Jul 20 2016, 01:08 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Jul 19 2016, 09:36 PM)
Ermmm budget.....

So many...love co, diamond and platinum ,wah chan, Poh Kong , Tiffany
*
I dont think tiffany is under budget categories..
TSlisiang
post Jul 10 2017, 05:00 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 10 2017, 03:53 PM)
Had a very bad experience with Le Lumiere Gardens. Their resize job was terrible. Just look at the pics below.

First picture shows the egg shaped ring after resizing.
user posted image

Second picture below is a collage of the original (bottom pic), resize (middle pic), and fix attempt (top pic) of the resize. Middle pic shows the milgrain pattern virtually polished off, while the top pic shows their clumsy attempt of trying to recreate the milgrain but is is still obviously not uniform.

user posted image

Now they are telling me that I need to pay extra if need to remake with new stones if the stones are higher carat. When asked why cannot reuse the existing botched ring's stones, the salesperson even had the gall to say might scratch the stones...WTH...are the diamonds fake?
*
From the pic clearly shows that how lack of craftmanship are they. But did they warn you about the resize might cause some ovalness due to the design or something? From my past experience from WahChan, they did mentioned some of the design is hard/not possible for resize due to the design and etc.

I think you do have to file an official complain or etc to the branch manager/higher management rather than dealing it with the salesperson.

Anyhow, it's an once in a lifetime thingy.
TSlisiang
post Jul 10 2017, 05:19 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
305 posts

Joined: May 2010
From: Pineapple under the sea



QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 10 2017, 05:04 PM)
The salesperson actually showed us a sample ring which was resized and it looked seamless. Yes he acknowledged it was horrible workmanship. Thus they tried to fix it. But the way the milgrain design was polished off makes it beyond redemption.

I did escalate to their branch manager and even posted to their Le Lumiere's facebook page. After the so called fix, they removed my post and refused to allow new postings!  vmad.gif

I did not accept the outcome of the 'fix' and demanded a new ring be made. Now they are saying cannot reuse the old stones and if the new ring's stones are bigger carat then I have to top up. I already paid in full. And the wedding is in a few months time... ranting.gif
*
QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 10 2017, 05:14 PM)
Should I demand a refund and try to get my ring somewhere else? I'm seriously running out of time.
*
Im no pro on this but i do believe "refund" will not works, especially in Malaysia. And on the other hand, they probably wouldnt give a damn on your deadline as they are not obligated to meet your deadline.

But on the ring thingy, they will have to get it done, whether on time or not, that's another story already.

Maybe you could get a wedding bands just for the sake of marriage ceremony first?

2 Pages  1 2 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0325sec    1.61    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 1st December 2025 - 01:55 PM