Old ver tide is good for newbie la, currently i think he not newbie friendly ady lol, But yeah would be good inside the starter list. VS is a good one, almost forget that lol, but swap will be mess up sometime, even for those who experience. CM u need to guide him while you are carry, (e.g. my friend used to shout at me "ice him ice him", good old time) Aggressive CM is easier to learn tbh, but a pro CM can switch to any type of support. Also i don expect any newbie can dodge arrow and hook, even pro get hook or arrow easily lol, its a map awareness game.

orge magi also not bad ma..hehe

Mayb it just me lol, like i say before, every1 have their type, and I jackpot from the start. But so far yet, your first hero is always ur best hero. I think i have trained around 5 to 6 newbie and currently around 2.5k to 3k mmr, not so bad as long as they learn. XD

Teaching dota is just too fun mayb i shud take this as a job. lolol

WK support is bad in pug or ranked, its like playing trust fall with your carry, but its not bad to learn how to utilize farm as a support since he got mid game carry potential. Also for WK to support is very expensive, smoke, boot, dagger. Its hardly to success without trilane or follow up. But still, im have been playing support WK for some time, quite fun actually XD.

Hmm after a few try of support WK, i would suggest you try this early build: Get power tread and soul ring, basically ur mana is infinite ady, (learn how to switch boot be4 u use soul ring), unless u need mana boot for team who spam skill a lot then diff story la, else its waste to get mana boot, too much uneccesary mana.

*I tried tranquil boot with soul ring build, not so bad, easy spamable also lol*

Dagger is a must for support WK to gank effectively, then drum for team, lastly heaven halberd to counter carry, or even bkb to man fight in the battle for some dmg.

v1n0d just watched your replay of CM. Totally impressed with your mad skills. I personally love to learn more about warding. I'm curious though, at the start of the game why did you plant an observer in front of the fountain?

u mean the team rank ap mode?
for me i like tht wan...its fair everyone and no last min to counter pick

You can play with me if you want to, I'm not fussy about my party rating. My Steam profile is cartographer, you can just drop me a PM to let me know you're from LYN.
P.S. I sincerely hope you're not the type who likes to troll or flame for no reason. I already deleted a couple of people from here because they behave like major @$$holes. Imagine my shock when I saw one 2k guy trash talking the opponent after winning when he got carried hard.

Specific item/skill build for early rosh?

it doesnt add slash, it add normal attack. this normal attack can be evade if you gor evasion or windrun skill.

but for omnislash, each slash deal 200 magical damage, this 1 cannot be evade.

it is each slash is magical damage type, but it dont hit ghost unit
noted, jugg also can do bodyblock during omnislash, you cant see jugg during omni, but he still there on map

physical ba..else bkb then jugger useless lol...

physical ya my bad lol

i tot it pass bkb just because it is ulti like most ult

lc ulti aso physical but can hit ghost with no damage

so its like

lets say my normal dmg is 80..

when < 0.4s per atk

200 + 80 per slashes ? (havent deduct armor)

izzit something like that?

scepter share attribute too gay :/

Oh ya, something i tested when losing a match ytd, (there is nothing to stop you from learning even if you are losing, cant do shit? test some crazy stuff!!)

Back to topic, i need ppl to help me confirm this again, I used heaven halberd on jug before he cast his ulti on my 1 on 1, but then during the 1st 70% early duration of his omnislash, I almost take no dmg. Then suddenly i think the halberd effect wear off, the 30% left of the duration kill me in second. If possible any1 can help me confirm this?

Edit : Im playing Axe btw, only physical dmg dodge probably from heaven, but I don think atk miss would effect jug ulti rite?

Something to test also: Kotl use blind before jug ulti, WR windrun while jug ulti (the last I test don think it work, but its like from the memory of ages before, din try it lately)

Then probably the effect from halberd... seem legit to start counter jug with that

Bane 1st skill reduce basic dmg, if you mean that can reduce the dmg other than omnislash dmg then yeah, still a full omnislash ulti is pain enuf to let u scream. 

I been thinking, if ppl get ghost only, get diffuse blade, use it if he ghost. 
If ppl get eul ...... cry then, the best counter against jug.