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TShighwaykiller
post Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM, updated 11y ago

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Morning everyone


due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)


BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)



So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike? icon_question.gif


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post Dec 29 2014, 09:39 AM

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sekolah memandu la.
nak belajar cara illegal watpa
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:39 AM

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ts dunno how to ride...lel
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:39 AM

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first thing first

reti tak balancing dengan basikal?
TShighwaykiller
post Dec 29 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(pulaulalat @ Dec 29 2014, 09:39 AM)
sekolah memandu la.
nak belajar cara illegal watpa
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sekolah memandu bukan utk kreta aja?
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:40 AM

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U can ride bicycle?. If can then no problem. Scooter is okay for daily use. Im using scooter daily and always win during cilok cilok coz no need to tukar gear. Hahaha
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:40 AM)
sekolah memandu bukan utk kreta aja?
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stupiak yu.
if yu no go sekolah memandu how to get lesen.
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Dec 29 2014, 09:39 AM)
ts dunno how to ride...lel
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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Dec 29 2014, 09:39 AM)
first thing first

reti tak balancing dengan basikal?
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basikal still ok..... tapi x reti nk brake la....
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 09:40 AM)
U can ride bicycle?. If can then no problem. Scooter is okay for daily use. Im using scooter daily and always win during cilok cilok coz no need to tukar gear. Hahaha
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but u got ur motor license with scooter ?
I tot must use manual bike to pass?

QUOTE(pulaulalat @ Dec 29 2014, 09:40 AM)
stupiak yu.
if yu no go sekolah memandu how to get lesen.
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cry.gif be4 get lesen mesti reti nk bawa motor dulu mah
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:41 AM)
parent x kasi sad.gif
basikal still ok..... tapi x reti nk brake la....
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should be fine then

take a scooter for start,

or borrow from fren one...

but dont straightaway naik motor ada clutch,
terbang nanti laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:43 AM

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ts is a richfag never learn how to ride a bike. good, stay with ur godcar. we already have enuff rempit on the road.
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Dec 29 2014, 09:43 AM)
should be fine then

take a scooter for start,

or borrow from fren one...

but dont straightaway naik motor ada clutch,
terbang nanti laugh.gif laugh.gif
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if take exam can use scooter?
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:44 AM

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take your father bike learn at kampung first la....saw alot of clown in kampung rempit moto at corner....regardless of incoming cars move in the lane
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:43 AM)
ts is a richfag never learn how to ride a bike. good, stay with ur godcar. we already have enuff rempit on the road.
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AYam not richfag but Ayam house got 8 car (AYam only 1, others is dad,mom,bro punya)
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(doppatroll @ Dec 29 2014, 09:44 AM)
take your father bike learn at kampung first la....saw alot of clown in kampung rempit moto at corner....regardless of incoming cars move in the lane
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those r idiots...... they dont know if they dead insurance wont cover



btw xde bike
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:46 AM

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where your location? I can ask my bro at shah alam teach you. His rate RM200 for one day lesson, then tomorrow sure you can go work with motorbike already.
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:46 AM

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1. buy cheapo ex5
2. ride around your neighborhood
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:47 AM

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dun worry, they have training wheel brows.gif

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post Dec 29 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(cyberfly @ Dec 29 2014, 09:46 AM)
where your location? I can ask my bro at shah alam teach you. His rate RM200 for one day lesson, then tomorrow sure you can go work with motorbike already.
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Come Selayang I teach you 1 day lesson RM180
Today learn today itself can naik motor go work
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:48 AM

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go ask driving school la.

open thread ask here for what?
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(xaoc @ Dec 29 2014, 09:46 AM)
1. buy cheapo ex5
2. ride around your neighborhood
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how much for ex5?
i heard got some semi-auto so u dun need to play with clutch
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:43 AM)
if take exam can use scooter?
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no

if want license you nid to master riding ex5

gives you more benefit before, during, and after exam
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 09:40 AM)
U can ride bicycle?. If can then no problem. Scooter is okay for daily use. Im using scooter daily and always win during cilok cilok coz no need to tukar gear. Hahaha
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real man use clutch bike.
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:42 AM)
but u got ur motor license with scooter ?
I tot must use manual bike to pass?
cry.gif be4 get lesen mesti reti nk bawa motor dulu mah
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Oh i forgot. Then your worst nightware is the "titi" part. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(cyberfly @ Dec 29 2014, 09:46 AM)
where your location? I can ask my bro at shah alam teach you. His rate RM200 for one day lesson, then tomorrow sure you can go work with motorbike already.
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u maciam perompak punya muka

QUOTE(xaoc @ Dec 29 2014, 09:46 AM)
1. buy cheapo ex5
2. ride around your neighborhood
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ex5? I mudah jap

yeah thats what I think too

QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Dec 29 2014, 09:47 AM)
dun worry, they have training wheel  brows.gif

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QUOTE(Seager @ Dec 29 2014, 09:48 AM)
Come Selayang I teach you 1 day lesson RM180
Today learn today itself can naik motor go work
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whistling.gif dah ada 2 olang offer dah... efektif btol /k
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(acrylic_26 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM)
real man use clutch bike.
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give ts some break.he is a newbie.
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:51 AM

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ts, driving school doesnt teach you how to balance when riding
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(acrylic_26 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM)
real man use clutch bike.
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Haha. Last time i ride 125z during my SPM year. Then after result accident, masuk besi in hand and leg cry.gif cry.gif . Then repair the bike and sold it off. Still missing the smell of Petronas 2T. drool.gif drool.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Dec 29 2014, 09:43 AM)
should be fine then

take a scooter for start,

or borrow from fren one...

but dont straightaway naik motor ada clutch,
terbang nanti laugh.gif laugh.gif
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How can terbang?
My first bike lesson was on a Honda CG125, clutch.

In SG all schools had clutch.
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:52 AM)
How can terbang?
My first bike lesson was on a Honda CG125, clutch.

In SG all schools had clutch.
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if dunno how then terbang laa...

happens to one of my fren laugh.gif laugh.gif

he tot pulas handle only then can ride
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Dec 29 2014, 09:48 AM)
no

if want license you nid to master riding ex5

gives you more benefit before, during, and after exam
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rclxms.gif thx

I try my best to get 1 first

QUOTE(acrylic_26 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM)
real man use clutch bike.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM)
Oh i forgot. Then your worst nightware is the "titi" part.  thumbup.gif
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sad.gif sadly but yes....

QUOTE(alpayedo @ Dec 29 2014, 09:51 AM)
ts, driving school doesnt teach you how to balance when riding
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ya I know so need to practice first
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Dec 29 2014, 09:48 AM)
no

if want license you nid to master riding ex5

gives you more benefit before, during, and after exam
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rclxms.gif thx

I try my best to get 1 first

QUOTE(acrylic_26 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM)
real man use clutch bike.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM)
Oh i forgot. Then your worst nightware is the "titi" part.  thumbup.gif
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sad.gif sadly but yes....

QUOTE(alpayedo @ Dec 29 2014, 09:51 AM)
ts, driving school doesnt teach you how to balance when riding
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ya I know so need to practice first
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:42 AM)
but u got ur motor license with scooter ?
I tot must use manual bike to pass?
cry.gif be4 get lesen mesti reti nk bawa motor dulu mah
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bodon.
i have never even driven any bikes before going to sekolah memandu
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(pulaulalat @ Dec 29 2014, 09:54 AM)
bodon.
i have never even driven any bikes before going to sekolah memandu
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yala u panai



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post Dec 29 2014, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:55 AM)
yala u panai
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:56 AM

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give rm10 to rempits,hell he even teach you to wheelie
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:56 AM

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ya
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:56 AM

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ya
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(apihblind @ Dec 29 2014, 09:56 AM)
give rm10 to rempits,hell he even teach you to wheelie
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Ayam just wan daily normal usage

biggrin.gif x mau jam
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post Dec 29 2014, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 09:51 AM)
Haha. Last time i ride 125z during my SPM year. Then after result accident, masuk besi in hand and leg cry.gif  cry.gif . Then repair the bike and sold it off. Still missing the smell of Petronas 2T. drool.gif  drool.gif
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wow.... now still can ride?
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:00 AM

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i also planing to take motor, but bahaya.
fuuuuuu.
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Dec 29 2014, 10:00 AM)
i also planing to take motor, but bahaya.
fuuuuuu.
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sad.gif yea bahaya....

but car jam cam....
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
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TS, if u want to get a bike just to go to LRT station, I suggest u just get a foldable bicycle (now many comes with 6 speed gears, 8kg only), u can fold it n bring it to the LRT then ride it to ur office too ! n u don't need licence or tax for it......hehe

http://www.usjcycles.com/tag/folding-bike/
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(MechaLEE @ Dec 29 2014, 10:08 AM)
TS, if u want to get a bike just to go to LRT station, I suggest u just get a foldable bicycle (now many comes with 6 speed gears, 8kg only), u can fold it n bring it to the LRT then ride it to ur office too ! n u don't need licence or tax for it......hehe

http://www.usjcycles.com/tag/folding-bike/
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thx for suggestion but kinda far actually sad.gif about 20km
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:12 AM

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dont know how to ride? pandan ke apa....
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:14 AM

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dude if u wanted to get motor license without any experience handling a bike before, u should start with riding a bicycle first
learn how to balance ur body etch
pls master the bicycle first before u starting to ride a bike
dun endanger others road users caused by ur inexperience riding a bike
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(the golden sukuk @ Dec 29 2014, 10:12 AM)
dont know how to ride? pandan ke apa....
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family x kasi so x reti
pandan can take ur gf on bed too

QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:14 AM)
dude if u wanted to get motor license without any experience handling a bike before, u should start with riding a bicycle first
learn how to balance ur body etch
pls master the bicycle first before u starting to ride a bike
dun endanger others road users caused by ur inexperience riding a bike
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thats y asking

before killed a single person on the road
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:58 AM)
wow.... now still can ride?
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Still ok. Bwk scooter reach 100 pn take long time. So cruising at LDP around 60-70 daily. As long arrive destination safely.
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 10:19 AM)
Still ok. Bwk scooter reach 100 pn take long time. So cruising at LDP around 60-70 daily. As long arrive destination safely.
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I see.... ok lah as long as safe kan
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main r basikal dulu.
beza cuma cara nak gerakkan kenderaan tu je.
basikal = kayuh
motor = pulas je throttle (sori kalo slh ejaan)

basikal elektrik, ni kes lain.

just buy normal basikal. no need yg ribu2
nak belajar je kan...
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 10:18 AM)
family x kasi so x reti
pandan can take ur gf on bed too
thats y asking

before killed a single person on the road
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and my suggestion is u should start riding a bicycle first then baru can start ride ex5
just borrow any of ur frends bike to start learning how to ride a bike for the first time
start riding it pusing2 on the field then if u feel u can handle the bike, u can start riding it on the road
but pls dun test riding in heavy traffic if u dun wan ur head get crashed by lorry, find suitable timing to start riding like in the morning weekends

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ROFL

u need to feel it how to ride it,
that how rempit learnt

later u will enjoice riding
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:54 AM)
ya I know so need to practice first
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after practise, go to school for ride test and get lesen L. Enough ady no need full lesen



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post Dec 29 2014, 10:30 AM

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takkan takde member or saudara yg ade ex5

pi pinjam lenjannn

kalau TS naik moto clutch sure wheelie terus ni

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post Dec 29 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(yusk8 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:24 AM)
main r basikal dulu.
beza cuma cara nak gerakkan kenderaan tu je.
basikal = kayuh
motor = pulas je throttle (sori kalo slh ejaan)

basikal elektrik, ni kes lain.

just buy normal basikal. no need yg ribu2
nak belajar je kan...
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ya tgh amik basikal biggrin.gif

QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:25 AM)
and my suggestion is u should start riding a bicycle first then baru can start ride ex5
just borrow any of ur frends bike to start learning how to ride a bike for the first time
start riding it pusing2 on the field then if u feel u can handle the bike, u can start riding it on the road
but pls dun test riding in heavy traffic if u dun wan ur head get crashed by lorry, find suitable timing to start riding like in the morning weekends
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haha ofcoz I wont

not going to die so young tongue.gif

QUOTE(fhatz @ Dec 29 2014, 10:27 AM)
ROFL

u need to feel it how to ride it,
that how rempit learnt

later u will enjoice riding
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ya... feel it....

QUOTE(alpayedo @ Dec 29 2014, 10:28 AM)
after practise, go to school for ride test and get lesen L. Enough ady no need full lesen
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L can use for how long

QUOTE(mousqy @ Dec 29 2014, 10:30 AM)
takkan takde member or saudara yg ade ex5

pi pinjam lenjannn

kalau TS naik moto clutch sure wheelie terus ni
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mmg xde ....
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:35 AM

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You RIDE motorcycle, not DRIVE motorcycle

Oh you can start by using ex5 as training platform
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 10:03 AM)
sad.gif yea bahaya....

but car jam cam....
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ayam also dunno how to ride motorbike sad.gif
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then go buy yamaha 100 sports for less then 1k

pastu lenjan kaw kaw ...jgn beli moto curi sudah

example:
http://www.mudah.my/Yamaha+Sports+y100-32154166.htm

inb4 moto banjir

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TS if you know how to ride a bicycle then you can easily learn how to ride a motorcycle.
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QUOTE(alpayedo @ Dec 29 2014, 10:28 AM)
after practise, go to school for ride test and get lesen L. Enough ady no need full lesen
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Get lesen L? Motor L and car L different ah?
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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Dec 29 2014, 10:38 AM)
Get lesen L? Motor L and car L different ah?
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different class

car is D class
motor B/C class, not sure. I dont have lesen motor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:35 AM)
You RIDE motorcycle, not DRIVE motorcycle

Oh you can start by using ex5 as training platform
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looking at mudah ex5 now biggrin.gif

but now my concern pulak on repair



QUOTE(ReWeR @ Dec 29 2014, 10:35 AM)
ayam also dunno how to ride motorbike  sad.gif
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Dec 29 2014, 10:35 AM)
then go buy yamaha 100 sports for less then 1k

pastu lenjan kaw kaw ...jgn beli moto curi sudah

example:
http://www.mudah.my/Yamaha+Sports+y100-32154166.htm

inb4 moto banjir
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lol..... but if repair expensive or not

QUOTE(mizi3 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:37 AM)
TS if you know how to ride a bicycle then you can easily learn how to ride a motorcycle.
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:41 AM

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moto lenjan takyah repair

lenjan2 pastu tinggal je tepi highway LEL
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QUOTE(alpayedo @ Dec 29 2014, 10:28 AM)
after practise, go to school for ride test and get lesen L. Enough ady no need full lesen
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What sorcery is this? Did you know L license only last for 2 years before you had to reseat the exam again
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 10:40 AM)
looking at mudah ex5 now biggrin.gif

but now my concern pulak on repair
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Ex5 is bulletproof

And is like servicing your car, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaasssy cheap

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post Dec 29 2014, 10:44 AM

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u pulas itu throttle half way , u rev secukup rasa and go for gear 1 , too fast to sooon broooo !!!
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:43 AM)
Ex5 is bulletproof

And is like servicing your car, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaasssy cheap
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sometime too cheap that those schoolboy mat rempit can afford
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Dec 29 2014, 10:41 AM)
moto lenjan takyah repair

lenjan2 pastu tinggal je tepi highway LEL
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:43 AM)
Ex5 is bulletproof

And is like servicing your car, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaasssy cheap
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notworthy.gif thats what I need

thx brah

QUOTE(kimp @ Dec 29 2014, 10:44 AM)
u pulas itu throttle half way , u rev secukup rasa and go for gear 1 , too fast to sooon broooo !!!
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sweat.gif sorry but I cant get what u toking about,,,
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Buat apa nak naik motor. Naik motor karang kene cop mat rempit, orang miskin, rendah pelajaran, kaki death wish, kurang ajar dan sebagainya.

Bawak la kerete. Seburuk2 kancil seken oun ada 4 tayar, bayar roadtax bayar rol bayar parking, ada kelasss gitu. Amoi tengok pun pilih keter drpd motor. Insapla...
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Dec 29 2014, 10:41 AM)
moto lenjan takyah repair

lenjan2 pastu tinggal je tepi highway LEL
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mad.gif kena saman how
QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:43 AM)
Ex5 is bulletproof

And is like servicing your car, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaasssy cheap
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notworthy.gif thats what I need

thx brah

QUOTE(kimp @ Dec 29 2014, 10:44 AM)
u pulas itu throttle half way , u rev secukup rasa and go for gear 1 , too fast to sooon broooo !!!
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sweat.gif sorry but I cant get what u toking about,,,
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
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Don't ride moto, very dangerous, plus everyday raining. Drive car, go out earlier, go home after rush hour and you'll be fine.
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 10:40 AM)
looking at mudah ex5 now biggrin.gif

but now my concern pulak on repair
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lol..... but if repair expensive or not
thanks smile.gif
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Don't buy EX5, hot bike, always got theft because spare parts expensive.

Just drive car bro, best choice, don't have to worry about rain, accidents or thefts.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Dec 29 2014, 10:56 AM)
Don't ride moto, very dangerous, plus everyday raining. Drive car, go out earlier, go home after rush hour and you'll be fine.
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what u said is true

I think about it over & over for a month


currently I go to work at 6am and go back at 9 sometimes 10 (just to avoid the jam)

but again.... what I do in my home is sleeping and take bath sweat.gif

thats why come an idea of riding sad.gif
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QUOTE(tubingjack @ Dec 29 2014, 10:46 AM)
sometime too cheap that those schoolboy mat rempit can afford
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Yoy think they can afford a new? A brand new cost 4k

And that's why previous version of ex5 is popular amongst thief
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 29 2014, 11:00 AM)
Yoy think they can afford a new? A brand new cost 4k

And that's why previous version of ex5 is popular amongst thief
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i mean the servicing cost is cheap...
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QUOTE(tubingjack @ Dec 29 2014, 11:01 AM)
i mean the servicing cost is cheap...
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Unrelated

Or else other moped of it class also popular amongst thief
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:42 AM)
What sorcery is this? Did you know L license only last for 2 years before you had to reseat the exam again
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deswai i told so, since ts baru mau cuba2 jadi mat rempit
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QUOTE(alpayedo @ Dec 29 2014, 11:19 AM)
deswai i told so, since ts baru mau cuba2 jadi mat rempit
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Err even owning a legal license still rempit?

Knsai with the generalizing
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riding lesson 101

1. turn on the ignition, kick start or E-start ur bike.
2. wear helmet
3. ur left foot step into Gear 1 n hold it while ur right hand rev up the throttle abit high rpm.
4. n let it go ur left foot, then there u good to ride smile.gif..

cheers
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ingatkan thread pulaulalat tadi
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ingatkan thread pulaulalat tadi
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ROR!
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QUOTE(pulaulalat @ Dec 29 2014, 12:05 PM)
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 10:19 AM)
Still ok. Bwk scooter reach 100 pn take long time. So cruising at LDP around 60-70 daily. As long arrive destination safely.
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QUOTE(Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA @ Dec 29 2014, 11:34 AM)
riding lesson 101

1. turn on the ignition, kick start or E-start ur bike.
2. wear helmet
3. ur left foot step into Gear 1 n hold it while ur right hand rev up the throttle abit high rpm.
4. n let it go ur left foot, then there u good to ride smile.gif..

cheers
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balik try tongue.gif
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 12:28 PM)
balik try tongue.gif
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haha dude, I was joking on steps no.3 & 4 sweat.gif

nvr try that unless u wan to willy ur ex5 brows.gif

btw just get into gear 1 n release it, slowly control the throttle.. from static u can straight use 2nd gear if u not so familiar with the throttle
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if you can ride a basikal, then bike is one step further

good choice riding LRT icon_rolleyes.gif
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U can borrow pulaulalat ducati multistrada to prektis
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QUOTE(Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA @ Dec 29 2014, 12:31 PM)
haha dude, I was joking on steps no.3 & 4 sweat.gif 

nvr try that unless u wan to willy ur ex5 brows.gif 

btw just get into gear 1 n release it, slowly control the throttle.. from static u can straight use 2nd gear if u not so familiar with the throttle
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rclxub.gif wow... thx for highlight tho....

no knowledge at all on motorcycle

QUOTE(EarendurFefalas @ Dec 29 2014, 12:32 PM)
if you can ride a basikal, then bike is one step further

good choice riding LRT  icon_rolleyes.gif
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smile.gif smile.gif save minyak and time thumbup.gif
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haha dude, I was joking on steps no.3 & 4 sweat.gif 

nvr try that unless u wan to willy ur ex5 brows.gif 

btw just get into gear 1 n release it, slowly control the throttle.. from static u can straight use 2nd gear if u not so familiar with the throttle
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rclxub.gif wow... thx for highlight tho....

no knowledge at all on motorcycle

QUOTE(EarendurFefalas @ Dec 29 2014, 12:32 PM)
if you can ride a basikal, then bike is one step further

good choice riding LRT  icon_rolleyes.gif
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smile.gif smile.gif save minyak and time thumbup.gif
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U can borrow pulaulalat ducati multistrada to prektis
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QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Dec 29 2014, 09:47 AM)
dun worry, they have training wheel  brows.gif

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Bike as workhorse in city a whole new level. Bagi master basic pusing taman, pergi kedai dulu.
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 12:45 PM)
rclxub.gif wow... thx for highlight tho....

no knowledge at all on motorcycle
smile.gif  smile.gif save minyak and time  thumbup.gif
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er haha Im sorry, nvr tot of it... sweat.gif

btw my last sentence its the tips I used to tell my frens for first timer like u...

from static, if use 2nd gear ur throttle wont so responsive/aggressive thus give u a better control.. once u familiar then try normal way of riding which 1st gear..
enjoy ur ride yah!

my next target bike is zx6 tongue.gif

hope this help icon_rolleyes.gif
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-urrgh !! double click issue!!-

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scooter is perfect for a beginner
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Nowadays everyday also rain, maybe buy next year better
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i think can go to driving school lah..last time (year 2003) at the driving school i saw this fella learn how to ride the bike. actually this fella know how to ride scooter but never ride the kapcai one. so after kick start, he rev the throttle to max and then put gear 1..mujur x melambung. the teacher then bring him to another area to teach him riding bike
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QUOTE(Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA @ Dec 29 2014, 12:53 PM)
er haha Im sorry, nvr tot of it...  sweat.gif

btw my last sentence its the tips I used to tell my frens for first timer like u...

from static, if use 2nd gear ur throttle wont so responsive/aggressive thus give u a better control.. once u familiar then try normal way of riding which 1st gear..
enjoy ur ride yah!

my next target bike is zx6 tongue.gif

hope this help  icon_rolleyes.gif
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thx smile.gif thinking of getting new ex5.... as beginner first biggrin.gif

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Damn bodoh wei hahahaha
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QUOTE(falzehope @ Dec 29 2014, 01:01 PM)
scooter is perfect for a beginner
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agree with but I only can choose 1 sad.gif

QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Dec 29 2014, 01:21 PM)
Nowadays everyday also rain, maybe buy next year better
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Dec 29 2014, 01:46 PM)
oh wow..... thx.... but thats superbike right?

QUOTE(mobeus @ Dec 29 2014, 02:01 PM)
i think can go to driving school lah..last time (year 2003) at the driving school i saw this fella learn how to ride the bike. actually this fella know how to ride scooter but never ride the kapcai one. so after kick start, he rev the throttle to max and then put gear 1..mujur x melambung. the teacher then bring him to another area to teach him riding bike
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rclxms.gif so naise tat teacher.....
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Dec 29 2014, 02:44 PM)
well if ayam guessing u r richfag ....

here your solution

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I saw that but.... its not cheap right?
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QUOTE(serdangonline @ Dec 29 2014, 12:25 PM)
Bagus, sudap insap. rclxms.gif
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Yup. Metal implant mmg menginsapkan. Especially when fever time. Terasa the metal mengembang. Sakit bai.

the implant is exactly the same like below.

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 29 2014, 02:48 PM)
Yup. Metal implant mmg menginsapkan. Especially when fever time. Terasa the metal mengembang. Sakit bai.

the implant is exactly the same like below.

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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ayam learnt how to ride a bike at driving school. at that time i took both car and bike license, while i cant drive a car or ride a bike.
when time to train with bike, the uncle there ask everyone who dont know how to ride a bike. only me raised a hand.

i start by ride a modenas kriss, the uncle give me gear 2 to start learning. very gooding first time ride a bike. then i collide with divider, the motor and me going up into divider, me on injured. tomorow start learn again, until i'm ready to start learn in track.

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QUOTE(pulaulalat @ Dec 29 2014, 12:48 PM)
what's a multistrada  unsure.gif
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ex5 motor panas. must put extra solex. so mafan la. summore u park at lrt everyday. better buy less aggressive looking bike like honda wave. previously using wave 100 for such a long time. this early model really no power but i lanyak from melaka-klang-kota damansara-puchong no problem. just standard maintenance will do. last2 this wave oso kena kebas. haih.

for comfort & easy riding, scooter much better but u need to take ur license using semi auto bike. unless u can borrow someone's bike to practise, then its a good choice.

hardest part of the test is balancing on the titi. really need to practise a lot esp u have no experience on bike. another one is emergency brake but this one u just need to practise the brake timing.
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Dec 29 2014, 05:29 PM)
ayam learnt how to ride a bike at driving school. at that time i took both car and bike license, while i cant drive a car or ride a bike.
when time to train with bike, the uncle there ask everyone who dont know how to ride a bike. only me raised a hand.

i start by ride a modenas kriss, the uncle give me gear 2 to start learning. very gooding first time ride a bike. then i collide with divider, the motor and me going up into divider, me on injured. tomorow start learn again, until i'm ready to start learn in track.
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i see.... so I can learn from driving school too....thx smile.gif
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QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Dec 29 2014, 08:00 PM)
ex5 motor panas. must put extra solex. so mafan la. summore u park at lrt everyday. better buy less aggressive looking bike like honda wave. previously using wave 100 for such a long time. this early model really no power but i lanyak from melaka-klang-kota damansara-puchong no problem. just standard maintenance will do. last2 this wave oso kena kebas. haih.

for comfort & easy riding, scooter much better but u need to take ur license using semi auto bike. unless u can borrow someone's bike to practise, then its a good choice.

hardest part of the test is balancing on the titi. really need to practise a lot esp u have no experience on bike. another one is emergency brake but this one u just need to practise the brake timing.
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wow u use bike outstation notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
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come learn from me, and prepare butseccc owai
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my advice
try to ride around your house 1st
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QUOTE(rosihan @ Dec 30 2014, 09:02 AM)
my advice
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dont bantai highway, later u runover by lori balak
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ride around house..learn to switch gear..learn to balance..learn to take corner..
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good luck on ur first ride..

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
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ride bike to become highwaykiller or killed by highway?
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ride bike to become highwaykiller or killed by highway?
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QUOTE(harizdesu @ Dec 30 2014, 09:45 AM)
good luck on ur first ride..

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Lelz, my moto terbang at my 3rd time riding a bike.

It happen coz Ex5 is a light motor with powderful pick up. I accidentally done it coz i change gear to gear 1 at a slope while still throttling.

Apalagi, the bike flew to the front, dah lar ada passenger, passenger ejected immediately wei, very funny moment biggrin.gif (funny lar coz no car bang us, if got car bang, already bekam sad stori).

Anyway, now already can drive as far as KLIA, can even survive Jalan Tun Razak chaotic traffic.

Just an advice, watch out for wimmenz driver. There is no horror scarier for a biker than a women driver. Avoid them like a plague.
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post Dec 30 2014, 10:37 AM

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i never terbang before..only jatuh bodo cos keep on using the front brakes when not used to cornering and stop.

after jatuh few times pandai already haha, now ride like rossi on a L plate
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QUOTE(adonhhk @ Dec 30 2014, 09:47 AM)
Start with bicycle, if you can do bicycle, motor is nothing.
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This..then come to my house i teach u!
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Also if you have GF, practice sudden brake for you know what.
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just turn the handle la, what so hard about it? unless u dont even know how to ride a bicycle
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QUOTE(sadaharukouya @ Dec 30 2014, 12:11 PM)
just turn the handle la, what so hard about it? unless u dont even know how to ride a bicycle
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My friend just turned the handle, then lying in longkang.

Not everyone is natural born rider of Mordour. nod.gif
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buat apa naik motor? jom kita naik airwheel
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 30 2014, 08:59 AM)
what is extra solex?
wow u use bike outstation  notworthy.gif
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solex padlock. even the original wont save u. thus years ago, rempit with hot bike like rxz, 125z or ex5 must use few solex & disc lock together to delay the theft event. if one solex need few minutes then got few more lock, for sure the thief will find another easier target.

my 1st bike is rxz, SOP for park at shopping complex are handle lock, solex back tyre sprocket & disc lock on front tyre. if super hot area, will use secondary solex to lock the middle on the double stand. after some times it really mafan to unlock few lock before can go vrommm2. so i opted just handle & disc lock. i left the bike to my fren coz got something at my hometown. he forgot to put disc lock & then kene kebas. cry.gif

so both rxz & wave 100 has been travelling from melaka - klang - kota damansara - puchong - kajang - sepang when im studying. mostly visiting my bro, sis & frens house. i oso dunno how can i tahan all the long journey on highway. now unker liao, riding on my hometown oso dun want. unless its a big bike. icon_idea.gif

as some forumer said, plz beware of woman car driver. before past them, short study their car movement before overtake them. they tend to overreact & try to avoid u but actually u were the one suppose to avoid them. not all la but u can see a lot of them on the road.
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I learn by myself. Pinjam moto arwah atok c70 n round2 at the laman biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(adonhhk @ Dec 30 2014, 12:07 PM)
Also if you have GF, practice sudden brake for you know what.
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QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Dec 30 2014, 10:16 PM)
solex padlock. even the original wont save u. thus years ago, rempit with hot bike like rxz, 125z or ex5 must use few solex & disc lock together to delay the theft event. if one solex need few minutes then got few more lock, for sure the thief will find another easier target.

my 1st bike is rxz, SOP for park at shopping complex are handle lock, solex back tyre sprocket & disc lock on front tyre. if super hot area, will use secondary solex to lock the middle on the double stand. after some times it really mafan to unlock few lock before can go vrommm2. so i opted just handle & disc lock. i left the bike to my fren coz got something at my hometown. he forgot to put disc lock & then kene kebas.  cry.gif

so both rxz & wave 100 has been travelling from melaka - klang - kota damansara - puchong - kajang - sepang when im studying. mostly visiting my bro, sis & frens house. i oso dunno how can i tahan all the long journey on highway. now unker liao, riding on my hometown oso dun want. unless its a big bike.  icon_idea.gif

as some forumer said, plz beware of woman car driver. before past them, short study their car movement before overtake them. they tend to overreact & try to avoid u but actually u were the one suppose to avoid them. not all la but u can see a lot of them on the road.
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i see..... I think I have to do so lo then.....

thx for the advise
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 30 2014, 10:22 PM)
I learn by myself. Pinjam moto arwah atok c70 n round2 at the laman biggrin.gif
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wow....

I got chance to learn during uni time(fren bike)

but sked kena bayar if rosak so didnt take the chance sad.gif
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pinjam any moto cub & try ride slowly around taman with with no children around. please avoid them. long ago, a kid try to cross the road to his house on the other side. he just cross while im on very slow speed at 30-40km/h on his taman. his head knock the handle bar. just small injury but in just few minutes, theres around 20 peoples around me making me like a rempit who langgar a kid purposely. summore in front his house. luckily an uncle beside his house backup me & said the kid just cross without looking left & right. nasik baik yo..

so start with 2nd gear so u wont felt jumpy start. my bro in law teach my big sis using his bike. she try from the gate towards the house. keep asking my sis just press until it move (its on 1st gear). so she full throttle and bam langgar the dinding. nasib baik tak injured coz the distance very short. haih..
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truth is....sekolah memandu don teach u how to ride, they just teach u they way to finish the route to pass the test doh.gif

they expect u know how to ride d...just need wayang to get lesen

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I ride my Airwheel X3 to my office from the parking outside in the videos shown above, hehehehe smile.gif...........
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highway emergency lane is a good place to ride a motorcycle for the first time
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Dec 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
Morning everyone
due to the bad traffic nowadays.....
Im thinking of getting a bike to lrt station (working purpose)
BUT the thing is, I dont know how to ride AND I and my family dont have a single bike at all (we used to drive only)
So is there any place rent or provide practice on how to ride a bike?  icon_question.gif
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Ride motor in Malaysia not only just ride and obey all ruless. It's about skills also.

Ride moto doesnt mean you need to always ride slowly.

Need to play play with timing also

Cant be too "by the book"

Im not racist but i saw many times already these type of riders are either wimin or chinese, or both.

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