Any Heibaiwuchang deity temple at KL? Did u ever try ''hell journey" before?

I am Klang-based and am therefore unaware of any specific, legitimate places you can visit in KL.

People may tell you about a particular temple in Brickfields, but this place is run by fake mediums and you should not go there.

I would like to say a few words on 'Hell journeys' now.

Hell deities will NEVER take a living person down to Hell unless it is for an extremely good reason, because serious physical/mental injury or even death can result.

Hell is a place that most dead people cannot tolerate; what more the living?

This is not a frivolous exercise like a trip to Disneyland, not should it ever be regarded as such.

What they usually do is make the person experience what Hell is like without actually taking his or her soul there, usually by creating a temporary psychic link between the person and the other side.

Of the few legitimate cases that I am aware of, most were performed to 'cleanse' devotees who were cursed, suffering from serious runs of ill-luck or seriously unwell.

Sometimes, you have to 'die' in order to be 'reborn' - to step into the fires of the Infernal, allow yourself to be consumed by them, and emerge rejuvenated and anew from the ashes like a phoenix.

This is obviously a measure of last resort, used only in dire cases that do not respond to conventional magic, and can only be performed under very controlled conditions.

If you require a trip down to Hell to solve your problems, it would mean you are in VERY bad shape.

I would not wish you or myself to be in circumstances so dire that such measures are needed to fix us.

My answer to your second question therefore is 'no' - I have never undergone a ritual of this type.

Any medium who tells you that they 'take people down to Hell' on a regular basis, at the drop of a hat, is a liar.

The fakers conduct their bogus 'Hell journeys' by hypnotising their 'tourists'.

Check this out: http://www.white-sun.com/journeys_to_the_underworld.htm]Journeys to the Underworld[/URL]

I am not sure how true is the story. Ji Gong was instructed by Jade Emperor to bring a medium to tour the hell.

Some interesting facts from Wikipedia about the medium a.k.a the book author:

The author is a Taiwanese writer, Yang Zanru (simplified Chinese: 杨赞儒; traditional Chinese: 楊贊儒; pinyin: Yáng Zànrú; born 1951), who refers to himself as "Yangsheng" (simplified Chinese: 杨生; traditional Chinese: 楊生; pinyin: Yángshēng) in the book. He became a Buddhist monk in 1997 and adopted the Buddhist name "Shenglun" (simplified Chinese: 圣轮; traditional Chinese: 聖輪; pinyin: Shènglún). On 17 June 2013, a court in Taichung found Yang guilty of sexually assaulting female followers and sentenced him to 10 years imprisonment.[3]

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This post has been edited by iamoracle: Dec 19 2015, 10:06 PM

Thanks.. Will read when I free. Last time i watch guai tan got few episod shoot at Penang, Taiwan and Thailand about the hell tour. Quite interesting

This book is mostly fiction, authored by a very shady character.

I wouldn't put much stock in it if I were you.

As I've said earlier, I wouldn't put much trust in Yang Sheng's glorified novel.

Neither would I do so for Guai Tan, which is by and large a load of garbage.

Please re-read what I have posted previously about 'Hell tours'.

Relax bro, some is just for entertainment. Not gonna believe all..

Appreciate if you can provide translations for everything that you posted, just like what natch usually does.

sintua culture in japan , too

Very heartwarming to see an enclave of Chinese religion and culture flourishing in a foreign land. The Ba Jia Jiang troupe are outstanding.

Hope y'all had a great Christmas.

another of local South east asian sintua culture meets the taiwanese sintua culture

A Taoist, in Malaysia do u tick Buddhist column or lain-lain.

Taoism and Buddhism are separate.

If you are a Taoist, tick 'lain-lain'.

If you practice Chinese folk religion, do not lump yourself under 'Taoism', either.

If pray to usual temple in kampung that has tua pek gong kuan yim datuk gong thi gong so on a typical hokkien culture is consider ?

Chinese folk religion, no question.

ohh...then Taoism prays to???

Entities that correspond to stars and other heavenly bodies, mainly.

Chinese folk religion gods, on the other hand, are mostly former human beings who were deified as gods.

rare glimpse of what happens during a cemetery visit by the ghostly constables

Funny to see that she can smoke while still look like trying to cry..hehe