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post Mar 14 2018, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Mar 10 2018, 01:45 PM)
Scenes from the Johor Baru Old Temple Chingay:

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post Mar 14 2018, 10:26 PM

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Hi guys, do any of you guys know Er Lang Shen’s temple (二郎神) around Klang Valley?
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post Mar 18 2018, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(nghoongen @ Mar 14 2018, 10:26 PM)
Hi guys, do any of you guys know Er Lang Shen’s temple (二郎神) around Klang Valley?
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There is one near Eng Ann in Klang, but I'm not overly familiar with them.
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post Mar 18 2018, 10:04 AM

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It's Ji Gong's birthday today.

Here, Li Ya Pek bids him many happy returns.

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post Mar 18 2018, 01:41 PM

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Hi Nachtsider,

Yesterday i went to tua li ya pek temple,
I was told that i was a tua li ya pek god son 'khai chai'. I have faith with tua li ya pek.
He ask me to look for the tua li yak pek in klang.
Do you have any idea about this?? I was confused. How to look for tua li ya pek in klang??
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post Mar 19 2018, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Sl1984 @ Mar 18 2018, 01:41 PM)
Hi Nachtsider,

Yesterday i went to tua li ya pek temple,
I was told that i was a tua li ya pek god son 'khai chai'. I have faith with tua li ya pek.
He ask me to look for the tua li yak pek in klang.
Do you have any idea about this?? I was confused. How to look for tua li ya pek in klang??
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There are a number of Tua Li Ya Pek temples and sintuas in Klang.

One such place is the Qi Yu Dian, which I have touted earlier in the thread.

QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 21 2015, 09:09 AM)
There is this one temple known as the Hall of Sevenfold Jade/七玉殿. It is one of the few temples in my hometown of Klang dedicated exclusively to the Hell deities, boasting the all-merciful Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva in the main hall, and a special air-conditioned, cave-like basement room where the Black and White Brothers and other lesser but more fearsome Hell beings reside.

You can visit them at 4, Jalan Cox, 41300 Klang; they hold consults on Saturday nights at 9:30 p.m or thereabouts. The temple is admittedly somewhat difficult to find, being off the beaten track; it is located down by the river bank near the Fairy Park funeral parlour, close to Wisma TLT and the old Pawagam Sri Intan.

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post Mar 19 2018, 06:54 PM

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post Mar 19 2018, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(lie_ric @ Mar 10 2018, 02:59 PM)
Hi Nacht,

Thanks for the reply.

It means my family practice all Buddhist, Taoist and Sintua. Huahaha..... My mom herself go to Mahayana Buddhist Temple regularly for the chanting session. But pray to various god and goddess in Sintua and we always has the priest during family or relative funeral.

Regarding the '马将军' I am not sure myself. Back in Indonesia, it comes as a pair (See attached photos). One general holding a horse and his partner is a general who hold the war flag. In Singapore, Seng Wong Beo (http://www.beokeng.com/disptemple.php?temple=seng-wong-beo) has this deity too but it was a horse itself without any general and located in the same altar as Tiger God and the Heavenly Dog.

Thanks for the recommendation for the Temple. Will go and have a look when I have time.[attachmentid=9647453][attachmentid=9647456]
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Hi Nacht,

Posting again just in case you missed my previous post.

Please see attached photos regarding "马将军".

Does it means any significant to you? Do you know the story/history?

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post Apr 7 2018, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(lie_ric @ Mar 10 2018, 02:59 PM)
Hi Nacht,

Thanks for the reply.

It means my family practice all Buddhist, Taoist and Sintua. Huahaha..... My mom herself go to Mahayana Buddhist Temple regularly for the chanting session. But pray to various god and goddess in Sintua and we always has the priest during family or relative funeral.

Regarding the '马将军' I am not sure myself. Back in Indonesia, it comes as a pair (See attached photos). One general holding a horse and his partner is a general who hold the war flag. In Singapore, Seng Wong Beo (http://www.beokeng.com/disptemple.php?temple=seng-wong-beo) has this deity too but it was a horse itself without any general and located in the same altar as Tiger God and the Heavenly Dog.

Thanks for the recommendation for the Temple. Will go and have a look when I have time.[attachmentid=9647453][attachmentid=9647456]
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QUOTE(lie_ric @ Mar 19 2018, 07:15 PM)
Hi Nacht,

Posting again just in case you missed my previous post.

Please see attached photos regarding "马将军".

Does it means any significant to you? Do you know the story/history?

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Unfortunately, these don't really ring a bell.

I wonder if they represent, as I mentioned earlier, generic Celestial steeds or if they are a representation of the Celestial Stables as a whole.

Maybe someone else who knows more might be able to shed light on the issue, or if you do return to any of the temples where they are enshrined, you yourself might be able to make an inquiry.

I'm genuinely curious.
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post Apr 9 2018, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Apr 7 2018, 01:18 PM)
Unfortunately, these don't really ring a bell.

I wonder if they represent, as I mentioned earlier, generic Celestial steeds or if they are a representation of the Celestial Stables as a whole.

Maybe someone else who knows more might be able to shed light on the issue, or if you do return to any of the temples where they are enshrined, you yourself might be able to make an inquiry.

I'm genuinely curious.
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Unfortunately, this is the only place I can ask questions and expected some proper answer. As these temples care-taker adopted "Don't ask just do as instructed" attitude or some of them are not very sure about the story or origin of the deities enshrined within.
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post Apr 11 2018, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Dec 29 2014, 05:35 AM)
Geez. Pretty quiet in here; surely there MUST be people who adhere to Chinese folk religion on this forum? I did a search of the Kopitiam and saw plenty of threads on Datuk worship, the Hungry Ghost Festival and other related topics.  blink.gif
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Hungry ghost festival is a Buddhist tradition. Most Chinese are confused which is which.

God is pronounced 'Sim' and not 'Sin'.
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post Apr 11 2018, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(arenax @ Apr 11 2018, 09:32 AM)
Hungry ghost festival is a Buddhist tradition. Most Chinese are confused which is which.

God is pronounced 'Sim' and not 'Sin'.
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The Hungry Ghost Festival has its roots in the Buddhist Ulambana, but has since been adopted by Chinese folk religion and become subjected to that faith's spin or individual interpretation, as well.

In which dialect is 'god' pronounced as 'sim'? I am Hokkien and so are the majority of sintua adherents; in Hokkien, it most definitely is pronounced as 'sin'.
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post Apr 11 2018, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Apr 11 2018, 09:01 PM)
The Hungry Ghost Festival has its roots in the Buddhist Ulambana, but has since been adopted by Chinese folk religion and become subjected to that faith's spin or individual interpretation, as well.

In which dialect is 'god' pronounced as 'sim'? I am Hokkien and so are the majority of sintua adherents; in Hokkien, it most definitely is pronounced as 'sin'.
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True. It's origin is Buddhism , I am glad you don't deny it like some people I've met.

I am sorry, I mistake for 'heart' which is 'sim'. Yes, god is 'sin'.

My brain is too tired today due to hot weather.


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post Apr 11 2018, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(thomasbone @ Feb 8 2018, 11:09 PM)
Hi,

I recently went to a SINTUA in Tampines and was amazed. The medium was an Indian and he got tranced to Toh Ya Pek and also Li Ah Pek.

He gave me a 4D and I strike 1st prize.

I was also walking past the prayers place and decided to see the medium and got a lottery number. I heard they trance here on every 15 of the chinese month.

Anyone heard about this place before?

#Tampines Tua Li Ya Peh Sintua 大二爺伯
#TuaLiYaPek
#Hellgods
#大二爺伯
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This is a public service announcement.

If you are in Singapore, avoid the abovementioned sintua like the plague.

They are a scam operation; they charge money, and they claim to be able to channel deities that rightfully cannot be channeled.


They are located at Block 228, Tampines Street 23.

They use the following Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/spiritualgiftss/

Do not fall for their tricks.
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post Apr 13 2018, 10:20 PM

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Hi Nacht,

dunno this has been asked before or not, still browsing the thread =P

1) Dai Pak Gong is categorized as yin deity, does this mean he is part of hell deities?

2) let just say if a person is the godson of a deity in temple A, does this relationship extend beyond that temple with the same deity? maybe in temple B that has the same deity? normally the godson will address the medium in trance as godfather if they are the godchild but does this hold the same in different temple?

3) if i am not mistaken, there are different "lvl" or "state" that a deity can be channeled , i.e i have seen before there are mediums channeling juvenile Ji Gong and adult Ji Gong. hmmm what is reason to have different version of this? does the godson relationship in (2) extend / applicable beyond the lvl? Does it mean the higher lvl is more powerful? hmmm how many lvl or state are there?

TQ =D
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post Apr 14 2018, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(greenday @ Apr 13 2018, 10:20 PM)
Hi Nacht,

dunno this has been asked before or not, still browsing the thread =P

1) Dai Pak Gong is categorized as yin deity, does this mean he is part of hell deities?

2) let just say if a person is the godson of a deity in temple A, does this relationship extend beyond that temple with the same deity? maybe in temple B that has the same deity? normally the godson will address the medium in trance as godfather if they are the godchild but does this hold the same in different temple?

3) if i am not mistaken, there are different "lvl" or "state" that a deity can be channeled , i.e i have seen before there are mediums channeling juvenile Ji Gong and adult Ji Gong. hmmm what is reason to have different version of this? does the godson relationship in (2) extend / applicable beyond the lvl? Does it mean the higher lvl is more powerful? hmmm how many lvl or state are there?

TQ =D
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1. By 'Dai Pak Gong', do you mean Tua Pek Gong? You are speaking a form of dialect that I do not recognise/understand. If you mean Tua Pek Gong, then no, he is not a Hell deity. If you mean Tua Ya Pek, then yes, he is a Hell deity.

2. It all depends on whether or not the deity is a singular individual. For instance, if you are a godchild of Na Zha, you will be recognised at all Na Zha temples, because there is only one Na Zha. Same goes with Ji Gong, Lord guan, etc. They are all singular deities. If you are a godchild of Tua Ya Pek, however, that would really depend, because there are dozens of Tua Ya Peks. He is not a singular deity.

3. The state or form of a particular deity that can be channeled depends on how physically and mentally fit the medium is to channel that particular state or form. Different states or forms can possess different powers. But at the end of the day, the deity's identity is the same throughout, and the godchild relationship will extend across the board.
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QUOTE(arenax @ Apr 11 2018, 09:20 PM)
True. It's origin is Buddhism , I am glad you  don't deny it like some people I've met.

I am sorry, I mistake for 'heart' which is 'sim'. Yes, god is 'sin'.

My brain is too tired today due to  hot weather.
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I acknowledge whatever is undisputed fact. smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2018, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Apr 14 2018, 10:40 AM)
I acknowledge whatever is undisputed fact.  smile.gif
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By the way, if you want to know origin of Hokkien people, Han Chinese and other related stuff. Here is a good website. Click on topics/archive on right side for past postings.

http://eastasiaorigin.blogspot.com/
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Finally finish reading the thread in 3 days time! What an informative thread this is! I am Guan Yin's God Kid as well and my family can be said to have strong ties with the sintua religion as well for example most of my family will eat vege for 3-12 days during the 9 Emperor's festival. I got a question for Dr Nacht due to curiosity.

How does one know they are being chosen to become a medium? Any signs or visions?
Thank you!
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QUOTE(IAmLejen @ Apr 17 2018, 04:19 PM)
Finally finish reading the thread in 3 days time! What an informative thread this is! I am Guan Yin's God Kid as well and my family can be said to have strong ties with the sintua religion as well for example most of my family will eat vege for 3-12 days during the 9 Emperor's festival. I got a question for Dr Nacht due to curiosity.

How does one know they are being chosen to become a medium? Any signs or visions?
Thank you!
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Hello Lejen,

Yes, you will be notified via a vision or a dream if you are selected for mediumship.

Thank you for stopping by; do stick around and feel free to ask as many questions as you like. smile.gif

Nacht

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