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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post Sep 20 2017, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(audreyreiko @ Sep 19 2017, 11:09 AM)
I always wondered who makes these effigies? They are very well made and very detailed. Our local craftsmen?
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Yes, there is a small consortium of local craftsmen who make them.

It's a dying art form, but they are doing their best to bravely keep it alive into the new millennium.
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post Sep 21 2017, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Sep 21 2017, 12:46 AM)
I was using Cantonese. Am a banana, so dunno much Mandarin Chinese.
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You're not a banana if you are able to speak Cantonese.

A banana denotes somebody who cannot speak Chinese in any shape or form.

I'm Hokkien myself; I don't understand a word of Cantonese. tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Silfrijin @ Sep 21 2017, 10:21 AM)
In some local temples they do have The 3 Pure Ones, the manifestations from the Big Tao then they "manifested" the Supreme Jade Emperor, flanked by 4 high ranking assistants, then followed by the department of Thunder Lightning, Beings Salvation, etc. Followed by East Wood King and West Queen. So the lists go on...

Is that what the Taoists are preaching, or something of the sort?

That the San Qing manifested the Jade Emperor?

Folk religion states in no uncertain terms that he was a human disciple of Yuan Shi Tian Jun, the leader of the San Qing, who cultivated himself over a period of several millennia in order to attain sufficient worthiness for the role.

QUOTE(Silfrijin @ Sep 21 2017, 10:21 AM)
Kuan Yin resonates the compassionate energy and activities of the Immortals. There are male and female forms are people pray to.

My understanding is that Guan Yin doesn't have male or female forms; she is a woman through and through.

And it is Avalokitesvara, the genderless Bodhisattva from whom she originates, that has multiple forms both male and female.
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post Sep 22 2017, 03:32 PM

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Today is the Kitchen God's birthday.

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post Sep 28 2017, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 27 2017, 10:49 PM)
Anybody knows what this is? I guess it's Tibetan. I've seen people hanging this above the main door. Some people just put it on the altar.
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Tibetan Buddhism is kinda outside the focus of this thread...
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 12:21 PM)
I know. But I bet those who have what I posted up there will have Guan Yin, Tua Pek Kong, Guan Gong, Sheng Ong or others Taoist deities at home. You don't see usual Buddhist (except Tibetan Buddhist) have that.
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None of those are Taoist deities...
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post Sep 28 2017, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 04:05 PM)
What about Malay?
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Sharia law forbids that.

But keramat worship and other forms of what is deemed 'idolatry' and 'heresy' still do occur on the sly.
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post Sep 28 2017, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Sep 28 2017, 02:38 PM)
want to ask, what if the younger generations stop praying to their ancestors?
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A less than ideal situation, although ancestral spirits can still keep going courtesy of the afterlife's welfare system.

They can receive offerings confiscated from other spirits who are deemed undeserving.
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post Sep 29 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Sep 29 2017, 12:19 AM)
Is there inflation in the afterworld considering the figures on the hell bank notes? LOL.
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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Sep 29 2017, 08:15 AM)
biggrin.gif would like to know to
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The Hell bank notes originated from the desire among incense paper manufacturers to modernise old fashioned paper money.

The large figures reflect them accommodating devotees' desires to have their deceased loved ones prosper.

In actual fact, Hell bank notes are not universally regarded as legal tender by Hell deities.

The monetary value and denominations of currency on the other side are also closely regulated, down to every dollar and cent.

Inflation is therefore not an issue.
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post Sep 29 2017, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(wildkitten @ Sep 29 2017, 01:55 PM)
During prayer, we often see food or fruit or sometime together. I guess it's for the god/ghost to "eat". What about the flower? Is it for "smell"? smile.gif
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They look pretty and smell fragrant.
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post Oct 3 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(putra23 @ Oct 3 2017, 02:39 PM)
What about other cultures that do not practice offerings to the dead? Would they receive welfare too?
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That's right.
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post Oct 3 2017, 07:34 PM

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Have a lovely Mid-Autumn Festival, all.

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post Oct 4 2017, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Oct 4 2017, 07:45 AM)
Happy Mid-Autumn Festival!

Wondering if Chang-er is real or just a legend?

Have you come across any medium channeling Chang-er?
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When someone asks 'is such-and-such deity real or just a legend', my usual answer is 'that depends on whom you ask'.

Chinese folk religion does revere two stellar deities known as the Solar Lord and Lunar Lady, who are personifications of the sun and moon and regarded by some as analogous to Chang-Er and Hou-Yi.

I have yet to see them possess mediums, however.

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post Oct 20 2017, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(cainbane @ Oct 20 2017, 06:30 PM)
hello nacht. i just discovered this site and it has been great reading. i would like to ask about the article which appeared today where there is a "djin buster" service where this practitioner claims he got rid of the djins from the kelantan family that kept getting their house burnt - what do you make of it? tks cry.gif
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Djinns are powerful entities.

I would not expect a human sorcerer to be able to deal with them unless he or she had powerful spiritual backers.
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post Oct 21 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(cainbane @ Oct 21 2017, 03:21 PM)
have quite some questions :

1. what is "money" used for down there?
2. babies or very young children who die - do they go through the same process of judgement?
3. when one dies, do they look the same as at the time they died?
4. in one of the pictures in earlier pages,  depicting the dead being eaten by the serpents in the river
what about if they were in a wheelchair or bedridden when they died - are they able to walk and
the pain they had been suffering from is no longer felt?
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1. The money is primarily used to pay for one's accommodation.

2. Those who die THAT prematurely will be taken to a special sanctuary to recover from their ordeal until they are ready; this usually means remaining there until they reach the age at which they were originally meant to reach before expiring naturally. Such an experience, being taken before your time so early, is highly traumatic, and only souls of a certain age are allowed to go through the standard processing.

3. By default, yes. But the art of protecting a residual self image can be perfected.

4. If you were crippled at the time of your death, you typically stay that way as a ghost, unless you can transcend that somehow. This can be achieved by someone performing salvation rituals for you, being healed by a deity, etc.
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QUOTE(JohnnyBlaze_X @ Oct 21 2017, 07:41 PM)
Anyone know where and when can participate in fire walking rituals around Kl/Sel area during this nine emperor festival?
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The Jalan Ampang temple to the Nine Emperors would be a good place to start.
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post Oct 22 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(JohnnyBlaze_X @ Oct 22 2017, 08:57 AM)
Beside from Nan Tian Kong? and not sure which day got this rituals..
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Ring them up and ask; it's not hard.
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QUOTE(audreyreiko @ Oct 23 2017, 11:20 AM)
I like the fact that you have an explanation to these, which makes it bit more believable and logical to my "agnostic" mind, on point number 2, does that mean that no babies or children are meant to die as a child and if they do it is due to unforseen circumstances?

Recently so many cases of abandoned babies or abused children that died...  cry.gif as a mum to 2 young children it really really makes me sad and emotional...  cry.gif
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Death at such a young age is NEVER normal.

Unexpected/unforseen circumstances are always to blame.
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QUOTE(veron208 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:18 PM)
I have a Guan Yin and Fuk Lou Sau at my home which are not consecrated before.
I am moving to a new house ... any advise on how to dispose them without angering them ?
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The deities you have named are VERY even tempered and kind, although they should still be treated with respect despite their statues being unconsecrated.

Approach your local temple or sintua and ask them if they provide 'sending off' services for discarded statues.

The correct method of disposal is to burn them, but there are certain protocols involved and this is not something a lay worshipper can do on their own.
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QUOTE(audreyreiko @ Oct 24 2017, 10:51 AM)
Came across a facebook post today with video, showing a sintua ceremony in KL for jiu huang yeh gone very wrong.

Apparently they were "steaming" the sifu in a big metal tong with fire underneath? (Can't tell based just on video and a video does not explain what is going on) - according to the caption the sifu has passed away due to the accident.

Wonder if you know about this case @nacht

Edit: Read up more of the comments in the thread, it seems the sifu had a heart attack during the middle of the ceremony, and when they carry him out of the steamer, a while later he passed away on the spot.  bye.gif
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I saw the footage earlier today.

It was only a matter of time before one of these idiots killed himself performing such foolish stunts, really.

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