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Yamma
post Oct 4 2016, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(samydavis @ Oct 4 2016, 01:30 PM)
1/ no true.However if you run or do any strenuous exercise before bedtime will make you hyperactive,hence your sleep time will be affected.

2/ yes,it's really that straight forward,however the type of calories do make a difference on your performance.

3/ If you intend to lose 1000cal a day,it would be advisable to loose 500cal from your diet and 500cal from exercise.
    As a rule of thumb,cal intake should not be below 1000 cal.
  To get a better idea of the amount of calories that you need a day to lose weight,check out the app Fitness Pal.Have fun thumbsup.gif
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thanks for your explanation.

mind to share more about type of calories? it's relate to fat, carbo, protein, trans fat all those? I had study briefly about them. Do I need to master them?

how much calories deficit human can sustain? if 1000 cl deficit per day, it will take about 1 week to loss 1kg. I need much faster than that. lol.

I have a 15km (a beginner like me) run which I challenge my friend in four weeks time. He is an old timer runner. I need to loss 5kg within this period in order to have any chance to at least not fall far behind him. lol. Faster the better.

is 1500 cl deficit per day is sustainable? what about 2000 cl? any human being done that? lol



OR.. a big OR.. am I doing it wrong way?
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post Oct 4 2016, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(samydavis @ Oct 3 2016, 11:49 PM)
I use it regularly.
It has most of our local hawker food.You just need to know how to type in the key word.
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Come come, teach this newbie. smile.gif
I just bought a Charge 2 so now using mfp to log food.
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post Oct 4 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Yamma @ Oct 4 2016, 01:49 PM)
thanks for your explanation.

mind to share more about type of calories? it's relate to fat, carbo, protein, trans fat all those? I had study briefly about them. Do I need to master them?

how much calories deficit human can sustain? if 1000 cl deficit per day, it will take about 1 week to loss 1kg. I need much faster than that. lol.

I have a 15km (a beginner like me) run which I challenge my friend in four weeks time. He is an old timer runner. I need to loss 5kg within this period in order to have any chance to at least not fall far behind him. lol. Faster the better.

is 1500 cl deficit per day is sustainable? what about 2000 cl? any human being done that? lol
OR.. a big OR.. am I doing it wrong way?
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Firstly you don't need to master them,just be aware of them will do.

If you cut down 500 cal per day,you will lose 1 lb per week.( so do the maths )

I don't see the relation between losing one's weight and being able to win a 15km race.
I suppose if you want to do well in running,so just practise your running.

To lose 5kg in a month is pretty drastic.It can be done but at the expense of what? you have to consider the consequences.

Assuming you need 2500cal/day base on your height and your lifestyle.
Cutting down between 1000-1500 cals is ok.But remember half or at least a third of that must be with exercise.
Like I say as long as you maintain you daily intake,after minus the cut in your food and from exercise is above 1000cal,than it's still healthy.
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post Oct 4 2016, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Oct 4 2016, 01:53 PM)
Come come, teach this newbie. smile.gif
I just bought a Charge 2 so now using mfp to log food.
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Aiya...for eg,type wan ton mee or beef noodle(dry or soup).
For nasi kandar,type white rice and add the dishes,eg drumstick or fried egg.

As for the portion,I suggest you get a digital weighing set than can weigh from 1gr to 1kg.
Than weigh the food that you normally eat and in MFP it will tell you the calories base on the number of grammes than you eat.
So when you eat out,you can estimate the portion visually(do not bring the scale with you everywhere you go hahaha)
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post Oct 4 2016, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(samydavis @ Oct 4 2016, 02:02 PM)
Firstly you don't need to master them,just be aware of them will do.

If you cut down 500 cal per day,you will lose 1 lb per week.( so do the maths )

I don't see the relation between losing one's weight and being able to win a 15km race.
I suppose if you want to do well in running,so just practise your running.

To lose 5kg in a month is pretty drastic.It can be done but at the expense of what? you have to consider the consequences.

Assuming you need 2500cal/day base on your height and your lifestyle.
Cutting down between 1000-1500 cals is ok.But remember half or at least a third of that must be with exercise.
Like I say as long as you maintain you daily intake,after minus the cut in your food and from exercise is above 1000cal,than it's still healthy.
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I think reduce in excess weight did help in running. lol.

without exercise, how much is a normal human being calories usage per day. From there, it will be much clearer calculation on my calories intake and exercise for the calories that I need to burn.

let say if daily usage for passive person is 2000cl. And I eat 1000cl per day, and run about 15km for 2 hours (assume 1000cl). So I will have 2000 cl deficit. Is it ok? I just worried such action will have any bad impact to my body. But I doubt I could do it on daily basis. lol.
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QUOTE(samydavis @ Oct 4 2016, 02:02 PM)
Firstly you don't need to master them,just be aware of them will do.

If you cut down 500 cal per day,you will lose 1 lb per week.( so do the maths )

I don't see the relation between losing one's weight and being able to win a 15km race.
I suppose if you want to do well in running,so just practise your running.

To lose 5kg in a month is pretty drastic.It can be done but at the expense of what? you have to consider the consequences.

Assuming you need 2500cal/day base on your height and your lifestyle.
Cutting down between 1000-1500 cals is ok.But remember half or at least a third of that must be with exercise.
Like I say as long as you maintain you daily intake,after minus the cut in your food and from exercise is above 1000cal,than it's still healthy.
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I think reduce in excess weight did help in running. lol.

without exercise, how much is a normal human being calories usage per day. From there, it will be much clearer calculation on my calories intake and exercise for the calories that I need to burn.

let say if daily usage for passive person is 2000cl. And I eat 1000cl per day, and run about 15km for 2 hours (assume 1000cl). So I will have 2000 cl deficit. Is it ok? I just worried such action will have any bad impact to my body. But I doubt I could do it on daily basis. lol.
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post Oct 4 2016, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Yamma @ Oct 4 2016, 02:20 PM)
I think reduce in excess weight did help in running. lol.

without exercise, how much is a normal human being calories usage per day. From there, it will be much clearer calculation on my calories intake and exercise for the calories that I need to burn.

let say if daily usage for passive person is 2000cl. And I eat 1000cl per day, and run about 15km for 2 hours (assume 1000cl). So I will have 2000 cl deficit. Is it ok? I just worried such action will have any bad impact to my body.  But I doubt I could do it on daily basis. lol.
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I think you're getting too technical.

As Nike say,"Just Do It" and have fun.Rome isn't built in a day.
If you lose this 15km race,learn from it and kick ass the next time! thumbup.gif

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post Oct 4 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(samydavis @ Oct 4 2016, 02:26 PM)
I think you're getting too technical.

As Nike say,"Just Do It" and have fun.Rome isn't built in a day.
If you lose this 15km race,learn from it and kick ass the next time! thumbup.gif
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hahaha. thanks. I for sure gonna lose. Just need to save face a little bit. lol.

thanks ya.
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post Oct 4 2016, 04:17 PM

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What do you substitute with when your mouth itchy? laugh.gif I have no problem in working out and all but the only bad thing about me is that my mouth is constantly itchy for food. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 4 2016, 04:17 PM)
What do you substitute with when your mouth itchy? laugh.gif I have no problem in working out and all but the only bad thing about me is that my mouth is constantly itchy for food. laugh.gif
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Strawberry, orange, blueberries, guava, etc.

The less sweet & the higher the fibre, the better.

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post Oct 4 2016, 05:51 PM

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Try fruits. Or consume those foods which will make you feel full for a longer period. After certain of period your mouth will behave.
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post Oct 4 2016, 06:25 PM


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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 4 2016, 04:17 PM)
What do you substitute with when your mouth itchy? laugh.gif I have no problem in working out and all but the only bad thing about me is that my mouth is constantly itchy for food. laugh.gif
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unsalted dried nuts.........

got the crunch for texture.
gets you full and keep you full for long time

unsalted, so you don't go addicted and eat too much at one go.
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post Oct 4 2016, 06:27 PM


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QUOTE(Yamma @ Oct 4 2016, 02:20 PM)
I think reduce in excess weight did help in running. lol.

without exercise, how much is a normal human being calories usage per day. From there, it will be much clearer calculation on my calories intake and exercise for the calories that I need to burn.

let say if daily usage for passive person is 2000cl. And I eat 1000cl per day, and run about 15km for 2 hours (assume 1000cl). So I will have 2000 cl deficit. Is it ok? I just worried such action will have any bad impact to my body.  But I doubt I could do it on daily basis. lol.
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a dilemma....

to be better at running, just run more.

but you need proper nutrition and rest time for the leg muscle to develop........

not easy with calorie restriction.
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post Oct 4 2016, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Oct 4 2016, 05:21 PM)
Strawberry, orange, blueberries, guava, etc.

The less sweet & the higher the fibre, the better.
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So fruit intake would be better eh? hmm.gif Never though of that laugh.gif
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post Oct 5 2016, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 4 2016, 09:58 PM)
So fruit intake would be better eh? hmm.gif Never though of that laugh.gif
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Or nuts as slimey suggested.

Depends which works for you better to suppress hunger and maintain calorie balance.

I'd speculate that a slightly sour and fibrous orange (probably the unpopular variety) would do better than nuts, which have higher calories.

However, there's no fixed answer to this, it really depends on many factors including likeability.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 4 2016, 04:17 PM)
What do you substitute with when your mouth itchy? laugh.gif I have no problem in working out and all but the only bad thing about me is that my mouth is constantly itchy for food. laugh.gif
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sugar free sweet / chewing gum.
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post Oct 5 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Oct 4 2016, 06:27 PM)
a dilemma....

to be better at running, just run more.

run more is a thing. reducing body weight (fat) is another thing. It's like one person running while carrying a heavy bag vs carrying nothing - according to my friend, a runner. I'm a nooby, lol.

on 21 Sep (2 weeks ago), I went to CF for measurement. My weight was 71kg (body fat mass 17.1kg) while my height is only 165cm (BMI 26.1 - fall under obesity. shit. lol). After about 2 weeks control my calories intake and exercised, my weight measured last night at 66.4kg (body fat mass 12.4kg). The reduction of my weight (4.6kg) solely come from lower body fat (4.7kg), with additional of 0.1kg minerals. However, both measurement were pretty unfair because the first one measured after my lunch while the latter measured after the workout. 


but you need proper nutrition and rest time for the leg muscle to develop........

no doubt on the nutrition. I need to study further about this. For the rest time, maybe I force my body to much now. This morning I run about 6km, can feel a bit discomfort on my right knee. I had my acl operation end of November last year.

not easy with calorie restriction.
yes, it is not easy. I wont do it for long run. Just temporary action to reduce my weight to 63.6kg, as suggested by the machine. Lol, I trust machine on this. lol

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post Oct 5 2016, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 5 2016, 10:27 AM)
sugar free sweet / chewing gum.
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LOL best suggestion. zero cals.
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I lost 25+ kg with SKD, hypocaloric for 6 months, zero exercise. 89 kg to 63 kg, 26% to 13% body fat %, 37 inch to 31 inch waist. Lost tons of strength.

Now on TKD, at maintenance with Starting Strength. 70 kg with 15% body fat. SQ 90 kg, BP 60 kg, DL 100 kg, OP 40 kg. Never feel better!

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post Oct 8 2016, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Oct 8 2016, 04:14 PM)
I lost 25+ kg with SKD, hypocaloric for 6 months, zero exercise. 89 kg to 63 kg, 26% to 13% body fat %, 37 inch to 31 inch waist. Lost tons of strength.

Now on TKD, at maintenance with Starting Strength. 70 kg with 15% body fat. SQ 90 kg, BP 60 kg, DL 100 kg, OP 40 kg. Never feel better!
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wow...impressive results thumbsup.gif

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