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post Dec 24 2014, 04:32 PM, updated 11y ago

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Fundsupermart.com (FSM) Malaysia is the online unit trust distribution arm of iFAST Capital Sdn. Bhd. ("iFAST Capital").

iFAST Capital is a holder of a Capital Markets Services Licence (CMSL) and is licensed by the Securities Commission to conduct the following regulated activities:

- To deal in unit trusts
- To offer investment advisory services
- To deal in Private Retirement Scheme

iFAST Capital is also registered with the Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia (FiMM) as an Institutional Unit Trust Adviser (IUTA).

iFAST Capital is a subsidiary of iFAST Malaysia Sdn. Bhd., which is wholly owned by iFAST Corporation Ltd. ("iFAST Corporation"). iFAST Corporation is headquartered in Singapore and the iFAST group of companies are also present in Hong Kong, Malaysia and China. The company was incorporated in Singapore on 10 January 2000.

iFAST Corporation was listed on the Singapore Exchange Mainboard in December 2014.

iFAST Corporation, via its wholly owned subsidiary iFAST Financial Pte. Ltd., is Singapore's leading online distributor of unit trusts as well as the leading operator of an investment platform for financial advisers and financial institutions. It carries the Capital Markets Services (CMS) and Financial Adviser (FA) licences issued by the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), and is also one of three appointed Central Provident Board (CPF) Investment Administrators.

One of iFAST Corporation's shareholders is SPH AsiaOne Ltd, the Internet arm of Singapore Press Holdings, which is Singapore's largest media group. In recent years, iFAST Corporation has been expanding beyond local shores. In 2007, iFAST Corporation launched its first overseas business, Fundsupermart in Hong Kong and in 2008, it launched Fundsupermart in Malaysia. iFAST Corporation launched its office in China in 2014.



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1. Wide range of information
2. Extensive product range and value-added services
3. One of the cheapest Sales Charges in town! thumbup.gif


To keep discussions at this thread fruitful and constructive, it would be greatly appreciated that fellow investors try to look for answer to their queries at Frequently Asked Questions before posting here. icon_rolleyes.gif

What is unit trust?
Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia - ABC of Unit Trusts

Other FAQs on Fundsupermart.com and unit trust investing in general

1. NAV pricing and processing time
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2. The NAV price of the fund that I'm interested in is quite high now, should I stay away? Investment gurus always say "buy low, sell high"...
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FSM Idea Of The Week: Unit Split and High Fund Price Misconceptions [24 October 2014]
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Investors should not judge if a unit trust is cheap or expensive based on its unit trust price or NAV. Instead, they should focus on the valuations (PE ratios) of the underlying equity markets that the unit trust invests in.


3. Common misconceptions about unit trust dividends/distributions:

(i) After dividend distribution, NAV price will go down, the fund will become cheaper.
(ii) A fund that declares dividends is better than a fund that does not, dividends are my profit, they make me richer.

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(iii) Topping up my holdings after dividend distribution pulls down my cost per unit, lower cost = higher profit.
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(iv) Distribution = Income
QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 25 2013, 10:51 PM)
Ok so after dividend distribution, you get some additional units and NAV drops. Then after few weeks if fund perform well then NAV increases to the point where it is back to the NAV before distribution. Doesnt it mean you gain some income from distribution?
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 25 2013, 11:19 PM)
Then what's the point of dividend distribution since units and NAV price has negative correlation?
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4. Annual Management Charge, Trustee Fee and NAV pricing
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5. Return On Investment (ROI) vs Annualised Return, similar to Internal Rate of Return (IRR)
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Link to v1
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Download here >>> Pinky's Portfolio Worksheet with IRR Calculation

Download here >>> polarzbearz's Portfolio Summary with Pinky's IRR Calculation (and here for Polarzbearz's FSM-to-Spreadsheet Conversion Tool)
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Make sure you read the instructions as many of the cells have formula in it. You can freely modify, update, or change it to suit your needs (and even share with others if you don't mind tongue.gif )


Happy investing! rclxms.gif

Disclaimer -
I am not a UT agent, nor am I employed by FSM. All my comments here are posted in good faith and with the intention to share knowledge. I am not to be held liable for any losses that may be incurred as a result of following any advice/opinion shared here. I believe the same should be applicable for any other LYN members posting here.
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post Dec 24 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 24 2014, 09:20 PM)
Year end is approaching and my bolehland funds are still under the water. laugh.gif
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My stock portfolio is up 12% year-to-date blush.gif
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post Dec 24 2014, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 24 2014, 09:43 PM)
What are you doing here? You should be attending some Xmas eve function right?

By the way, I'll be in KL this weekend. Want to meet up for a coffee?
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Night is still too early, take a nap first yawn.gif

Err...u know me...I'm shy blush.gif
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post Dec 25 2014, 10:55 AM

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Wow Unker yklooi already replied to so many...unker no go yamseng ar? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 25 2014, 01:00 AM)
Want to ask, when you guys topup your funds, how long does it take with FSM?

I been using eunittrust, when I make my transaction it takes around 3days to process. E.g if today market crashes so nav is pretty low & I decided to buy some but by the time my transaction succeed the nav increased already & they followed the latest price  hmm.gif

Also what are the pros & cons of using FSM with eunittrust? eunittrust having promo, SC for KGF is 1% which is why I topup couple of days ago since nav dropped.
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With FSM, it takes 4 working days to FINALISE, for u to see them in your summary of holdings. But the 4 days lag is just processing time, as long as your buy transaction is completed (click buy + make payment + payment received by FSM) by 3PM on a business day, u get NAV for THAT DAY, your money ain't gonna disappear during that 4 days. laugh.gif

By the way, don't get too overly bothered with NAV, u are not trading UTs (well, u should NOT be!), over the long term, a few % difference would not make much difference.
QUOTE(NeN51 @ Dec 25 2014, 08:57 AM)
To all sifus, just a quick question.

I did a brief calculation on my investment holding but somehow the average price i bought in it is not the same as the one listed by FSM "Weighted Average Cost".

Any bros having this issue? Or do you know how they calculate the WAC?

Thanks in advance!
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WAC showed in FSM includes your sales charges.
QUOTE(elroyrovers @ Dec 25 2014, 12:21 AM)
Hi all. I'm a newbie to Fundsupermart. Used to have an agent do all my unit trust investments. That's about a few years ago. now I want to try and do it on my own.
I guess, with the local equity market being bearish, could be the time to look for bargains.
If some of the taikors here have recommendations, sure would appreciate it.
TQ.
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With FSM, u could invest GLOBAL. Why think only of local equity market? wink.gif

But as some would say, it's good to make local market the "anchor" of your portfolio, if u are not already invested in local equities yourself. Main reasons:
(1) no foreign currency translation loss
(2) local market is "inefficient", i.e. fund managers can easily beat the market. But this argument is also valid for most developing countries stock market

As for myself, I'm already invested in local equities, so my UT portfolio is mainly overseas-focused.
QUOTE(MyRedz @ Dec 25 2014, 09:07 AM)
You sure are good...any tips?
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Err...find some under-covered gems and buy them? blush.gif

The stocks which contributed the most to my portfolio, most fund managers would not even look at them.

Apollo - makes your favourite snacks
Hup Seng - makes your Ping Pong cream crackers

Gems are not easy to come by. I've already dumped these 2 stocks. Of my current holdings, DiGi and Karex brows.gif are the most profitable stock. But don't blindly replicate my portfolio oh...some stocks are already overvalued. sweat.gif

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post Dec 25 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(MyRedz @ Dec 25 2014, 12:51 PM)
thanks for the reply..for the new year.2015.what are you take on REIT..?is it good to invest??on local equities based on consumers demand such as food and agriculture...those are a safe bet? how about tech stocks?what do u think
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Unker Looi posted link to a very good article by FSM wink.gif

As u can see from my siggy, I'm heavily invested in REITs. But that is just me, I prefer dividend-yielding stocks because I want to slowly build up a stream of passive income.
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post Dec 25 2014, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(MyRedz @ Dec 25 2014, 04:17 PM)
hi..can i invest in REIT with FSM too??
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No doh.gif

FSM is for unit trusts.

U buy REITs through Bursa.
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post Dec 26 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 26 2014, 12:12 PM)
Boring day!
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What excitement u want? brows.gif

U see me reply so fast...I'm rotting at office right now yawn.gif doh.gif

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post Dec 26 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 26 2014, 12:28 PM)
I got a little excited seeing your new avatar pic.. Viet?
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Lovely leh wub.gif
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QUOTE(yeowhock @ Dec 26 2014, 12:42 PM)
Helo everyone, i need some thoughts here, I'm interested in reits, but am not sure which platform to start, a UT reits fund or wit bursa reits, it seems less risky wit UT reits as 1 fund invest into a few reits than to having a few reits on bursa, am looking for Amasia pacific reits class b, it's a fund which invest the fund solely on reits comparing to other reits fund in fsm, others reits + stock, so my question is UT reits vs. bursa reits (better option as in better return/manageable), please advise thanks wink.gif
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My opinion -

I invest in REITs as substitute for investing in real estates - I want stream of cash flows. Thus, I chose to invest in REITs thru Bursa.

If u invest in a REIT fund, the dividends received are all reinvested; if u want the cash flow, u gotta manually sell some units yourself.

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QUOTE(yeowhock @ Dec 26 2014, 01:03 PM)
I see, u mean bursa reits has better cash flows as in return? But how many of bursa reits do I need(assuming no loss be it UT reits or bursa reits) to be comparable with UT reits return, how is the performance ratio for bursa reits vs UT reits? Plus do you often withdraw the profit return from bursa reits? sounds promising wink.gif
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Unit trust funds typically reinvest the dividends received UNLESS u opt to receive the dividends in cash. With FSM, all dividends are reinvested. If u want cash flows, u have to manually sell some units.

This, u gotta go Google and understand what is unit trust.

When I buy REITs, I rarely sell any. Treat them some sort of like Fixed Deposits.
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(yeowhock @ Dec 26 2014, 01:17 PM)
Yup, I kinda get the idea of investing in UT, you're right, i do look at it like FD wink.gif , still learning ways of different investing platform, i have a few UT funds with FSM, does it make sense if I invest in both, bursa reits n UT reits? I don't want to look like blindly invest or over diversify hahah
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There is some pros and cons of investing in REIT fund vs REITs

A good REIT manager can do more in-depth research and study than us.

But, a REIT fund manager may sell off REITs that show paper loss on his portfolio with good and stable yield to make his annual/interim report look nice (window dressing whistling.gif ).

If u invest in REITs yourself thru Bursa, u may choose to keep those REITs; eventually the dividends will cover the paper/price loss if u keep them long enough.

Well, this point is also valid for other dividend-yielding stocks.

If u have time and diligence to do some research and study yourself, IMHO it's better and more rewarding to invest in REITs and dividend stocks yourself than to buy a REIT/Dividend UT fund.

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 26 2014, 01:40 PM)
I am old...cannot take "One Important Risk You Might Have Overlooked with REITs"....
http://www.fool.sg/2013/08/01/one-importan...ked-with-reits/
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ini...accounting

Interest on loans are treated as expenses.

If a REIT/stock is distributing 100% of its EARNINGS to shareholders, means that it has already covered the interest payments.

Loan maturing? Dig new hole to cover old hole Take new loan to pay off old loan lor...REFINANCE, unker! biggrin.gif

Worse case, new loan will get higher interest rate - this will reduce future earnings, hence dividends. Won't do much harm actually

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UT is for investing, not trading. No need for real-time communications lar doh.gif
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post Dec 28 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 28 2014, 03:25 PM)
Indonesia Airasia is a separate entity from the corporate group that runs Asia's largest budget carrier
hmm.gif who is the insurance undertaker?
hopefully NOT from M'sia too....
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Tune Insurance? tongue.gif
QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 28 2014, 03:39 PM)
pink  hmm.gif after the flood has subsided.....
cars repairs, furniture need to be replaced, houses need to be repaired...
what stocks good?
currently biscuits, sardines, rice and drinking water companies are good...
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Car repairs? Proton and Honda are now offering discount for repair on cars affected by flooding. I don't see that as profitable tongue.gif

Furniture? Too broad...I also dunno who to pick rclxub.gif

Construction and repairs? Certainly yes...wars and natural disasters are good for construction companies. biggrin.gif
Maybe pick some construction material companies? LaFarge, Tasek, YTL Corp etc... rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 29 2014, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:21 AM)
Boring day at work!
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Good day for Monday blues happy hour session? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:36 AM)
Cannot happy la... need to mourn. Bendera separuh tiang...
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Choi! Belum jumpa bangkai kapal cannot confirm maut shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:08 AM)
No need for that occasion as it is not under Malaysia responsibility. Indonesia is taking full responsibility of the incident.
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MH370 hilang entah berapa lama baru ppl realise yawn.gif

This 8504 hilang just a while already alert. Sinkapo & Indomee thumbup.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 05:09 PM

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Guys...2014 coming to an end...remember post your 2014 full-year ROI here...just for sharing biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
whistling.gif  -2.78% whole port YTD.. haha  laugh.gif
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How about stock market? brows.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Dec 29 2014, 09:01 PM)
Must exclude CMF portion otherwise it will be very low smile.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 29 2014, 05:50 PM)
how to see the full year ROI geh? go analyze portfolio there ah? i only know my full portfolio is +4% only  sweat.gif
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Use this formula:

Total Profit/(Loss) / (Portfolio value at beginning of year + Total amount invested/(withdrawn) during the year/2) x 100%


This is the most simple way of calculating 12-month return on investment

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