In a dilima nao. Huat is da purpose of having huge throttle body, whilst IAFM keep on limiting its intake volume & injector is acting like a biatch? Yesterday found a 60mm mouth, believe its 1 of the largest compatible unit for Kampro throttle.
On the otherhand, another person offer a full set of intake(alloy manifold & 1.6 electrocnic throttle). This will remove the horrible throttle lag of IAFM, but torque dip on 2.5krpm is inevitable.
Both shd end up paying about 600 to get the job done. Should I?
A) get the 60mm, reserve a possibility of future up size to 1.6 + Halltech
B) enjoy the immediate response but suffer in town driving
It's not IAFM. It's normal kampro without air fuel module control. Due to engine oversized, momentum not easy to build up as natural aspiration, within 2.5~3.5k rpm will suffer torque dip. The throttle size is slightly larger than 1.3lit. If not mistaken v12kompressor is currently benefiting from 1.6 TB and he has the comparison photo of 1.3 vs 1.6 throttlebody side by side. The outter diameter of the throttlebody is exactly the same, but the butterfly valve of the 1.6 and inner diameter is larger.
I would like to see the 1.3 n 1.6 TB side by side. I mean is the mouth opening for the TB on 1.3 intake manifold and 1.6 same or 1.6 bigger?
Nobody answer my dilima, all ask questions like they're gonna upgrade 1.6 TB So I guess getting a 1.6 TB is the way to go? But what am I going to do with the manifold leh Besides, if only buy the TB, brand new for 1.6 also around 600 only wor. Might as well buy a new 1?
Lately I have been posting very less and being quiet because was busy with my wife and my new baby boy at the confinement center and fetching my daughter on weekends.
And on weekdays I'm alone at home with boring nights so I went and dig, read and did some RnD and information digging on our FLX Getrag gearbox. On the car user manual the gearbox is called 5MTT200A I've tried to Google more info with this name but it come out with information that was only surface and not deep enough or have any technical use at all. I've been digging for 1 month plus and its not complete yet.
Why did I went digging so deep? It started when I wanted to loate the filler hole for the gearbox since I wanted to try and change the transmission fluid myself. The information for the gearbox oil was also very sacred as the bottle from Proton only stated Geatrag gear oil.
So far these are the information that I've gathered across the globe and I might be wrong and hopefully these information can be useful in the future and I will continue to search for it and add in when I have the time.
Did you know? 1. 5MTT200A is very very similar to IB5 transmission. IB5 is a gearbox produced by Getrag Ford. 2. IB5 is an improved version of BC Series transmission from Ford. 3. IB5 was introduced in 1995 and was 1st used in the Mk4. Fiesta. (Source: wiki) 4. Some 5 speed manual Ford model is using the IB5 gearbox 5. The current Ford model that still uses the IB5 is the Ford Focus 1.4,1.6 and 1.8 (but might have a different transmission case and rear cover.
6. The IB5 transmission was under production in Europe for more than 30 years, and is localized in China since 2006 and re-named B5A mainly supplied to Ford China, and is widely used for Ford Ka, FIAT, Fusion, Focus, Fiesta, MG Rover; Etc. Synchronizers are applied for all forward speed gears, a dual synchronizer ring is incorporated. The transmission has five forward speeds and one reverse speed. Synchronizers are adopted to all speeds. The 2ND speed is dual cone synchronizer. The differential and the transmission are designed into integration.
8. Our FLX has a ball detent at the gear linkage at the transmission. This ball detent maybe can be upgrade to stronger unit from Fiesta MK6 ST but might need to drill and re-thread to fit. (most right is MK6 ST ball detent.
10. The gear oil: The user manual says its a Castrol BOT130M but no specs written on manual even on bottle. It is actually a SAE 75W90 API Gl-4 Synthetic gear oil. I got this information from Rover Forum.
11. Ford Puma's 3rd, 4th, 5th is the same as ours and final drive is wee bit different. Ford Puma Racing is using the 3.82 Final drive so our final drive could be a very strong one.
12. This is a gearbox picture from a Ford Focus 5 speed manual...The linkage area is 90% same as our FLX. I still need to double check again if I can find the filler hole (circled yellow) on top of the ball detent circle in red. The green circle highlights the shifting mechanism. [URL=http://s6.photobucket.com/user/TitanRev/media/CIMG0269.jpg.html] [/URL]
ADDED..8th Jan 2015 Actual Saga FLX gear linkage mechanism area (Transmission Case). Here is the picture of the Trans case from my FLX as you can see and refer to above Ford Focus picture...There's minor differences on the linkage ends and on the FLX it is missing the filler plug which is on top of the ball detent that you an see on the Focus.
13. Break down parts no of the Getrag gearbox which some didn't some on the spare part list while some have.
14. Our FLX transmission is separated into 3 parts. clutch/Bell housing -->transmission case-->rear cover. All the gears are in the transmission case.
15. Ford Focus LX gear shift at console.....macam macam like our FLX. I can't find back my FLX gear shift link at console.
16. Maybe FLX clutch set can use from FORD for IB5 transmission...just MAYBE....
17. How to fix the loose collet at the shifting mechanism. This is on a Ford Focus but I've seen out shift linkage and it's very much the same.
Above are all the information that I've gathered are from various sources such as Ford forum, MG forum, Ford Puma forum, Focus forum youtube, Google...etc...All credits goes to original contributors.
I'm very sure that the IB5 shares a lot of common things with our 5MTT and since the gearbox is not new the differences that we see if the continuous changes over time be it on the transmission case, or the bell housing but the base of it is still very same or similar to each other. I wish there will be other forummer who can chip in to help gather more information as it will be useful for all MT owners.
If my information are wrong please forgive me...My eyes are so tired browsing through 20+ tabs on Chrome
This post has been edited by TitanRev: Jan 8 2015, 03:01 PM
NEW INFO added. n3w When you go for your next oil change try to see or ask which is the filler hole. I have a feeling that Proton is using the ball detent bolt as a filler hole but in actual our filler hole is at the bottom of the gearbox that has a Torx head. I will be doing my 2nd gear change at 50K mileage.
QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 7 2015, 02:24 PM)
Lately I have been posting very less and being quiet because was busy with my wife and my new baby boy at the confinement center and fetching my daughter on weekends.
And on weekdays I'm alone at home with boring nights so I went and dig, read and did some RnD and information digging on our FLX Getrag gearbox. On the car user manual the gearbox is called 5MTT200A I've tried to Google more info with this name but it come out with information that was only surface and not deep enough or have any technical use at all. I've been digging for 1 month plus and its not complete yet.
Why did I went digging so deep? It started when I wanted to loate the filler hole for the gearbox since I wanted to try and change the transmission fluid myself. The information for the gearbox oil was also very sacred as the bottle from Proton only stated Geatrag gear oil.
So far these are the information that I've gathered across the globe and I might be wrong and hopefully these information can be useful in the future and I will continue to search for it and add in when I have the time.
Did you know? 1. 5MTT200A is very very similar to IB5 transmission. IB5 is a gearbox produced by Getrag Ford. 2. IB5 is an improved version of BC Series transmission from Ford. 3. IB5 was introduced in 1995 and was 1st used in the Mk4. Fiesta. (Source: wiki) 4. Some 5 speed manual Ford model is using the IB5 gearbox 5. The current Ford model that still uses the IB5 is the Ford Focus 1.4,1.6 and 1.8 (but might have a different transmission case and rear cover.
6. The IB5 transmission was under production in Europe for more than 30 years, and is localized in China since 2006 and re-named B5A mainly supplied to Ford China, and is widely used for Ford Ka, FIAT, Fusion, Focus, Fiesta, MG Rover; Etc. Synchronizers are applied for all forward speed gears, a dual synchronizer ring is incorporated. The transmission has five forward speeds and one reverse speed. Synchronizers are adopted to all speeds. The 2ND speed is dual cone synchronizer. The differential and the transmission are designed into integration.
8. Our FLX has a ball detent at the gear linkage at the transmission. This ball detent maybe can be upgrade to stronger unit from Fiesta MK6 ST but might need to drill and re-thread to fit. (most right is MK6 ST ball detent.
10. The gear oil: The user manual says its a Castrol BOT130M but no specs written on manual even on bottle. It is actually a SAE 75W90 API Gl-4 Synthetic gear oil. I got this information from Rover Forum.
11. Ford Puma's 3rd, 4th, 5th is the same as ours and final drive is wee bit different. Ford Puma Racing is using the 3.82 Final drive so our final drive could be a very strong one.
12. This is a gearbox picture from a Ford Focus 5 speed manual...The linkage area is 90% same as our FLX. I still need to double check again if I can find the filler hole (circled yellow) on top of the ball detent circle in red. The green circle highlights the shifting mechanism.
ADDED..8th Jan 2015 Actual Saga FLX gear linkage mechanism area (Transmission Case). Here is the picture of the Trans case from my FLX as you can see and refer to above Ford Focus picture...There's minor differences on the linkage ends and on the FLX it is missing the filler plug which is on top of the ball detent that you an see on the Focus.
13. Break down parts no of the Getrag gearbox which some didn't some on the spare part list while some have.
14. Our FLX transmission is separated into 3 parts. clutch/Bell housing -->transmission case-->rear cover. All the gears are in the transmission case.
15. Ford Focus LX gear shift at console.....macam macam like our FLX. I can't find back my FLX gear shift link at console.
16. Maybe FLX clutch set can use from FORD for IB5 transmission...just MAYBE....
17. How to fix the loose collet at the shifting mechanism. This is on a Ford Focus but I've seen out shift linkage and it's very much the same.
Above are all the information that I've gathered are from various sources such as Ford forum, MG forum, Ford Puma forum, Focus forum youtube, Google...etc...All credits goes to original contributors.
I'm very sure that the IB5 shares a lot of common things with our 5MTT and since the gearbox is not new the differences that we see if the continuous changes over time be it on the transmission case, or the bell housing but the base of it is still very same or similar to each other. I wish there will be other forummer who can chip in to help gather more information as it will be useful for all MT owners.
If my information are wrong please forgive me...My eyes are so tired browsing through 20+ tabs on Chrome
Er, ok. If I change mine soon, haven't change yet, 72k kms and ongoing.
Tunggu when pelik pelik feel in the gears, then maybe I'll change.
Pics yeah boss when you change the gear oil.
Edit: TitanRev Have you did anything to improve your gear stick movement? Make it like some sort of solid feel?
What I did was spray silicone white grease on the console linkage and at the gearbox linkage to make it more smooth. Mostly at pivoting points. Before this our linkage collet is very loose like the one showed in video on the Ford but when I see ours. It was improved already.
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So I guess getting a 1.6 TB is the way to go? But what am I going to do with the manifold leh 
Besides, if only buy the TB, brand new for 1.6 also around 600 only wor. Might as well buy a new 1? 
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