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Investment SETIA ECOHILL (VERSION 12) [OWNER'S THREAD], An Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih

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post Feb 4 2015, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Feb 4 2015, 03:29 PM)
I nodded and walked away.
Waste time talking to such SA. Whichever project you are in, you are supposed to sell your project, not open mouth and first word out is degrading other project.
It speaks volume of your credibility & integrity.

Even if I have money I wouldn’t want to make a deal with you.
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But if I am in your shoes, I wanna ask her lo ... see how she jawab. Like the chinese saying "min hai yan dei bei geh, gar hai ji gei tiew geh" wink.gif
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QUOTE(robert82 @ Feb 4 2015, 03:29 PM)
I nodded and walked away.
Waste time talking to such SA. Whichever project you are in, you are supposed to sell your project, not open mouth and first word out is degrading other project.
It speaks volume of your credibility & integrity.

Even if I have money I wouldn’t want to make a deal with you.
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Wasting time talking to such low level SA... doh.gif doh.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 03:48 PM

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i got ask la, wanna see how far she goes...
but can't rmb her answer d...

waste my energy.
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post Feb 4 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Feb 4 2015, 03:10 PM)
Our SPA is a standard SPA under Schedule G of the HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (CONTROL AND LICENSING)
ACT 1966 and HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (CONTROL AND LICENSING) REGULATIONS 1989. Thus, amendments are not allowed in any manner whatsoever.

For special incentive between the developer and the principal purchaser such as rebate and absorbing the legal fees, stamp duty n bla bla bla, more often than not, it's by way of verbal only or the most a letter. Such deviation from the standard T&C in the HDA SPA can never be reflected in the SPA itself.
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normally is in the letter of offer.

Verbal can pakai?
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QUOTE(akh731 @ Feb 4 2015, 04:05 PM)
normally is in the letter of offer.

Verbal can pakai?
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My letter of offer not even mention about legal fees of SPA and loan, but it is waived as well, so how? brows.gif brows.gif

Update: My bad my bad, after re-checking the letter of offer carefully, it is stated there the legal fees for both SPA and loan and stamp duty for SPA and loan is paid by the SPS... Mixed up booking form with letter of offer coz sign long time ago... doh.gif

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QUOTE(akh731 @ Feb 4 2015, 04:05 PM)
normally is in the letter of offer.

Verbal can pakai?
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AKH gor,

SP's verbal is as good as written but your verbal jau DEFINITELY CANNOT LO doh.gif
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Feb 4 2015, 04:53 PM)
AKH gor,

SP's verbal is as good as written but your verbal jau DEFINITELY CANNOT LO  doh.gif
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Manatau ppl also " nga chee dong kam sai" leh... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(cipan82 @ Feb 4 2015, 11:34 AM)
lucky for SEH buyer..... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

i bought tiara east...i thought all the legal docs..etc is free...
but actually only the S&P,initial lawyer fees is free...
but after around 1years the house is completed i just know that I need to pay MOT.
...the MOT cost is the highest.... cry.gif  cry.gif  rclxub.gif

eco majestic also same...only S&P is free....MOT need to pay on your own....
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Why "you thought is free"? Shouldn't it be disclosed upfront? For EM, yes MOT the buyers have to pay for it but it is made known upfront.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Feb 4 2015, 05:49 PM)
Why "you thought is free"? Shouldn't it be disclosed upfront?  For EM, yes MOT the buyers have to pay for it but it is made known upfront.
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1st time house buyer mehh sweat.gif ..i dont know anything about MOT that time... sweat.gif sweat.gif
they only say legal fee....S&P,stamp duty..etc free..they never mentioned anything about MOT....
but then after tiara east completed..suddenly receive lawyer letter for paying MOT fee... doh.gif
anyway Kueen Lai is cap ayam developer lorhh...not like sp setia n ecoworld.... tongue.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 10:37 PM

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I checked back my docs...
cost borne by developer was written in the letter of offer..

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QUOTE(samkps @ Feb 4 2015, 04:10 PM)
My letter of offer not even mention about legal fees of SPA and loan, but it is waived as well, so how?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Sam kor. Your letter offer valid or not.. You print your self..

show your letter offer.

Don't but tipu..
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Feb 4 2015, 04:53 PM)
AKH gor,

SP's verbal is as good as written but your verbal jau DEFINITELY CANNOT LO  doh.gif
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Tkj. Don't talk like that..

Show your letter offer loo..
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QUOTE(cipan82 @ Feb 4 2015, 10:37 PM)
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I checked back my docs...
cost borne by developer was written in the letter of offer..
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Precisely.. Everything is black and white.

Some guy is try mislead here
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post Feb 5 2015, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(akh731 @ Feb 4 2015, 11:10 PM)
Sam kor. Your letter offer valid or not.. You print your self..

show your letter offer.

Don't but tipu..
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My bad, my bad... Yes, it is stated in the letter of offer, but not in the booking form...

Signed too long ago already (1 year plus plus), mix up the booking form and letter of offer... doh.gif doh.gif

Both my booking form and letter of offer are valid lah brader.... rclxms.gif

But as I said, it is stated that MOT is paid by the purchaser in the SPA, which is the most crucial/ legally binding document that has the stamping by LHDN...

Booking form and letter of offer is drafted by developer only, sometime subject to change mah, no? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(cipan82 @ Feb 4 2015, 10:37 PM)
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I checked back my docs...
cost borne by developer was written in the letter of offer..
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Thanks for sharing, then did you check back the letter of offer for your Tiara East unit? hmm.gif
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post Feb 5 2015, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Feb 5 2015, 01:10 AM)
Thanks for sharing, then did you check back the letter of offer for your Tiara East unit?  hmm.gif
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in the letter of offer 4 tiara east doesnt stated anything
about cost bear by developer...hu2
for tiara east hv to pay rm15k for MOT😂😂😂😂😂
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post Feb 5 2015, 07:24 AM

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Actually Robert lowyat forum here also got Ecoworld fansi degrading sp setia and making lies and accusations. These people are worse. Not even paid to degrade other developments lol
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post Feb 5 2015, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(cipan82 @ Feb 5 2015, 07:02 AM)
in the letter of offer 4 tiara east doesnt stated anything
about cost bear by developer...hu2
for tiara east hv to pay rm15k for MOT😂😂😂😂😂
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Oic, so Tiara East cover SPA and loan legal fees, stamp duty for loan, but not stated in letter of offer, yet you still enjoy this waiver? Is there any black and white Tiara East shall cover the fees? How about booking form? I think you can ask Kueen Lei again is there any form the purchaser is being notified that they must pay the MOT? I think the total sum of legal fees of SPA + loan and the stamp duty for loan is actually more than MOT....


So is that means these kind of freebies are not "compulsory" stated in letter of offer as well, since it is just a letter by developer and not a truly legal binding document? Perhaps SP Setia and Ecoworld are top notch developers so they just do it in a proper manner.

I have bought some other properties before which langsung don't have letter of offer, only have booking form (when paying the booking fees) then proceed to the SPA... Most of them in the booking form didn't mention anything about these freebies, but normally they will walk the talk.. If said cover the SPA legal fees, they will cover it.

I think SPA still the most legitimate document, letter of offer, booking form, promotional materials are some additional document by developer to reassure purchaser shall be entitle for the freebies. So if the developer (especially the famous one) mentions verbally to public/purchasers, I think normally they will keep their promise though it is not stated in black and white..

Nevertheless, for the reassurance and protection for buyers, I presume all these freebies should be clearly indicated, be it in a letter, booking form or promotional brochure.. SP Setia and Ecoworld did a good job in this context for sure..

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QUOTE(jeghui @ Feb 5 2015, 07:24 AM)
Actually Robert lowyat forum here also got Ecoworld fansi degrading sp setia and making lies and accusations. These people are worse. Not even paid to degrade other developments lol
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Wow, this is bad... can show some examples? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Feb 5 2015, 08:43 AM)
Wow, this is bad... can show some examples?  hmm.gif
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Bro, macam macam orang pun ada lah... I think some may just degrade other for no reason other than sendiri syiok.

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