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post Jan 19 2015, 08:19 PM

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Hye all.. please help me..

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3474457

Need help and guide from lowyat members. Im seriously very frustated with what happen right now. The story begin like this.

I just bought iphone 6 plus 128gb from Machines in Sunway Pyramid on 17 Jan 2015. As an apple procedure, we have to pay first and then can only open the box. So i paid and they open the box, i found that there is damage at the phone which is under the screen at the side right of the phone. So ask them to change new one. They say cannot. Have to go to machines service center to claim 1 to 1 phone. So i just proceed with the purchase.

So today(19 jan 2015), i went to machines service centre in Midvalley to claim the warranty. Suddenly, they said it is a cosmetic warranty which is not cover under warranty. (WTF????). They say they ask me to refer back to outlet where i bought.

So i like stupid person go here n there, go to sunway machines and see the manager. They also said they cannot do anything. Seriously im really pissed off. The manager said email to contact@machines.com.my to report a complain. Because he cannot do anything.

I call apple customer service, they say if buy online, u can claim if anything damage on the phone within 7 days. I said, so how about my case, they said has to refer to machins back since bought from there.

Seriously i really need ur kind of help. I thinking to make polis report. I just give them 2 option. Money return or change mew iphone.

Please guide me.

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post Jan 19 2015, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(666devil @ Jan 19 2015, 10:56 PM)
Sorry nothing we can help as we already posted many bad experience with machines. They only interested to sell phone, not claim warranty. They will accuse u 101 reasons so hat u cannot claim. U didn't buy direct from Apple, so they also cannot help u. The most u can do now is go to the branch u bought and demand see manager.
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Already see manager. Manager also said he cannot do nothing. So today already report to tribunal. tomorrow, my last action to make police report and call credit card to block payment. Already call credit card they can block if i make police report.
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post Jan 19 2015, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(celdric @ Jan 19 2015, 11:06 PM)
I think he already see the manager as written there. Either police case or complain to consumer rights department. Make the thing big and they sure will layan you I guess. And well screw machines. vmad.gif
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This is my first time buying iphone. Previously im a samsung user. So i dunno machine is one of the suckest reseller ever..
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post Jan 19 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(celdric @ Jan 19 2015, 11:11 PM)
I understand your feeling, mine was under telco. Their service is not good as well. Just why the real apple store don't enter Malaysia market. I also coming from android, bad experience huh.  sad.gif
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Yes.. But dun worry, customer always right..
Faking them put responsibility to customer. Ask customer to pay later the product defect, and ask customer to Bare the cost.. Its really not right..
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post Jan 19 2015, 11:15 PM

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Tomorrow i will make sure they get what they suppose to get..
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post Jan 20 2015, 09:14 AM

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Police report in the making..

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post Jan 20 2015, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(celdric @ Jan 20 2015, 09:24 AM)
This thing just got real!  drool.gif maybe tribunal after this?  whistling.gif
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Already done. Just want to attach police report.

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post Jan 20 2015, 11:44 AM

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Just receive a call from Machine head office, now they say want to exchange. WTF?? Seriously they waisting my time...
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post Jan 20 2015, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(wintzen @ Jan 20 2015, 11:46 AM)
Demand for service recovery! You've wasted so much time doing what you have done.
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Yes. im seriously waisting my time to do all this shit things..
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post Jan 20 2015, 11:58 AM

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Here i will make sure this thing viral on net..


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post Jan 20 2015, 12:01 PM

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Please sent to ur friends. Be aware with machine. They told me, this is exceptional case.

Then i sound to them, how can be exceptional. Every customer also will request for change if bought defect product.


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post Jan 20 2015, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(celdric @ Jan 20 2015, 12:03 PM)
I am gonna download this image and share to my friends. Hahahaha
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Yes please.. Tell them please buy iphone through online to get cover by Apple warranty.
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post Jan 20 2015, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 20 2015, 12:14 PM)
You can actually make a report to the Consumer Tribunals for small claims like this. Just a note for you so that you know what to do next time rather than making a police report.
Exceptional case??? You told them they are lucky. If I was the one, I would have raised hell there and then if they do not replace another unit for me. That is why I always ask them to open up and inspect the unit first before I make my purchase. If they dont want to, I wont buy.

This is business ethics, how can you make a customer pay good money Rm3K++ for a defective product which is brand new and ask them to live with it?  shakehead.gif
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Thats why i told u they are stupid.. It very unfair to customer have to take the responsibility to buy the defect phone.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 20 2015, 12:52 PM)
Another issue to take note, when you go and collect your phone, make sure its from an unsealed box like when you were buying new and insist the unseal for you on the spot. Do not accept if they give a a seed unit. A seed unit will come sealed too in a small box containing only the phone with is serial no sticker on the box.
Nope, you can send your Apple Store units back to authorized Apple service centres for warranties and repairs. I just got my Singapore Apple Store unit bought during launching at Singapore during September replaced 2 weeks ago by Mac City.  thumbup.gif
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Ok noted.. tq for ur advice.
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post Jan 20 2015, 01:09 PM

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Now i email to them, i tell them i will not take the iphone at Sunway. I want to take at the nearest machine from my office. Just want to make them susah..
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jan 20 2015, 02:07 PM)
You're trending all over LYN  tongue.gif

But seriously, I've bought 2 iPhones, 3 iPads from machines & never had any problem either with the product or their service. I guess yours really exceptional case.
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yes, i will make it viral. Since i just become stupid dumbass yesterday. Just like begging for the warranty which the fault is not done by me. Seriously i cannot accept that.

Buy at outlet, found defect, they ask to go to service centre. Go to service centre, they say refer back to outlet. Go back to outlet at the same day(during my working time(ponteng)), the manager say he cannot do anything. Cannot refund and cannot exchange the phone. I tell the manger directly. It is very unfair to customer. And I walking back home and cannot stop thinking about this things. I cannot do my work, because i think i being cheated that pay RM3598 and get a defect product?

Do u know how does it feel?

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jan 20 2015, 02:20 PM)
Yes, I do understand how you feel. But I think it was sufficient to get the tribunal involved & perhaps your police report shouldn't have mentioned that you want the bank to block the payment. By now, the payment you made thru your credit card would've been debited to their account already & you are already liable. You can dispute but they got the money already.

My point is, if anyone can just buy anything thru their CC then make a dispute, you think shops will wanna accept CC as a form of payment anymore?
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i call UOB bank already before i make police report. They say they still can hold the money after i make police report and fax to them..
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post Jan 20 2015, 03:33 PM

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Now exchange in progress in machine midvalley.


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post Jan 21 2015, 09:23 AM

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Summary of the story..



QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jan 20 2015, 12:11 PM)
Please share to ur friends.. Dont ever think to buy Iphone or apple product on net.

They are not responsible seller..

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The story is like this

Saturday, 17 Jan 2015 -1750hrs-
I went to Machines Sunway pyramid to buy Iphone 6 plus 128gb. As an apple/Machines procedure, we have to pay first and then can only open the box. So i paid RM3598 (RM3549 iphone, RM49 Screen protector) using my credit card and only afther that the promoter, Firdaus open the box, So i been give permission to take a look at my phones and I found that there is damage at the phone which is under the screen at the side right of the phone. So I ask them to change new one. Firdaus(promoter) say cannot, have to go to machines service center in Midvalley to claim 1 to 1 phone. Since this is my first time buying iphone, so i thought maybe this is their SOP(standar of procedure). So i just proceed with the purchase.

I thought want to go direct to Midvalley for warranty claiming. Since the Service center is close at 6pm, so i cannot do anything rather than going back. One feedback has been send to Apple Malaysia regarding this issue.


Monday, 19 Jan 2015 -1100hrs-
So on Monday, I went to machines service centre in Midvalley to claim the warranty. Suddenly, they said it is a cosmetic issue which is not cover by warranty (WTF????). They say they ask me to refer back to outlet where i bought.

Now I have to waste my time again has to go to Sunway pyramid to meet the Manager Outlet, Mr. Ric Ding. Otw to there, I make a call to Apple Customer Care (1800806419) to confirm about this issue. I ask them, how actually the procedure is. So when i said to them, i bought from Machines, they say they cannot help much. Since im not buying online(If buy online, warranty will be cover by Apple). So Apple said my warranty is by Machines. So I just ask them, how if i buy phone online, and i found any damage, scratches on the phone. The Apple customer service said customer can exchange 1 to 1 by send the phone back to courier.

So now after arrive Machines Outlet at Sunway Pyramid, i ask the staff to call the manager, Mr. Ric. So he came out and he said, wait, he will check first how. So i wait around 15 minutes there(my watch around 1200hrs), so he came out. So he said, he cannot help much. He say the phone cannot be change. (This make me feel very irritating and angry). So i told him, if cannot exchange, refund my money back. So he say cannot also.

I call again Apple customer care to confirm about this issue. I ask the customer service to talk to the manager. So the manager give the Serial Number to the customer service and the manager past back the phone to me. I talk to the customer service and he said the same thing, Apple customer care cannot do much since the warranty or the procedure of exchange to the new phone is tied up with Machine. Not Apple. Then i just end my call.

I ask the manager Mr. Ric again, who can give decision on this issue. He said he cannot give decission to replace the phone(How come manager at the outlet cannot give decision? If like that, dont put manager there.) . Then he ask me to email to contact@machines.com.my and cc him, kb.ding@machines.com.my. And he also give me head office contact number. I call the Head office and tell the operator about the issue and pass to the person who can handle the case. The operator pass it to Mr. K (i dont know who is him). I talk to him about the issue, and he say please email. And by this evening, the team will read the issue. Then i email to them at around 1259hrs .

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In evening, i email to them the picture

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They not reply my email. I go back to my office with frustrated feeling and very tired about this issue.

Do you think it is fair to customer? We have to pay and then we have to take the risk? When they open the box, if there is a damage on the phone, we have to take the responsibility and not by Apple or dealer. I think it is very unfair. Customer dont have a choice whether to get back the money or take the defect phone. No win win situation in this issue.

Do you know how long my time wasted to settle this issue? I thought by buying a new phone, i will not headache since it is a new phone. but after paying RM3598, i have to waste my time, waste my money, waste my fuel, waste my energy to go here and there. Go out office during office hour to settle this issue. I think it is so unfair.

On night, i call UOB, is there any option i can do to block the payment to them since machine didnt reply my email like what Mr. K said they will settle it by Monday. So UOB said can block if i make police report.

I also have chat with Apple International customer service. They not helping much... This is what they say.. sweat.gif

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Tuesday, 20 Jan 2015 -0800hrs-
On Tuesday morning, after punch card at office, i told my Manager i want to go Police station to report upon this issue (wasting my time again have to go to polic station about this bullshit issue). Make report at Travers Police station.

After that, i call UOB again, and they ask me to fax the police report. Then i email to contact@machines.com.my the police report at 1054hrs.

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Only after that, i think around 1200hrs, i got a call from Mr. K (Machines Head Office) and he say they going to change the phone. He ask me to go back to Sunway Outlet. He say this is exceptional case. I said to him, how come you can call this exceptional case, if other customer face the same issue like me, they also will be mad.. He apologize about this issue.

Later i email back to him. It is unfair for me to waste my time and money again to go back to Sunway Pyramid. So i tell them to COD nearby my office (My office at Brickfield). So midvalley is nearby my office.

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Around 1330, i receive a call from Sunway Outlet (Rizman), he say he will meet up at Machines Mid valley to exchange the phone. So i said to him meet at 3pm.

At 1414, I receive an email from Mr. K.

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Finally the phone can be exchange at mid valley. This issue really make me tired. Some say it is a small issue. But the customer has right upon what they purchase.

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If u buying a car, the salesman said only can see the car after pay. So when u get the car, the car is scratches. Do u think as customer, u want to accept the scratches? As customer, do u want to take the responsibility that the fault is not done by you?
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post Jan 21 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(koaybl @ Jan 21 2015, 10:47 AM)
this happen to me too but not on iPhone is on the iPad Air 2, i bought an Ipad air 2 at machines garden on the 12/01/2015. So same thing, paid everything only they allow to open the box... then the staff help to install the screen protector, pass to me, then i saw i small dent on the top of the iPad, requested to change, the staff show it to his senior and his senior said this is not covered under warranty. I told him this is not my problem and this dent is already there when they open the box. After silence for a while they change a new ipad for me.
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Yaaa.. The think should be settle at the beginning. The staff at first i show the defect, should ask his senior or manager to change to new one. But he ask me to claim from Mid valley..

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