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 Proton Prevé V22, Venturing into 3rd anniversary!

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post May 8 2015, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ May 8 2015, 03:13 PM)
from my experience,
not that bad, it just noisy,
i tried to go 120-200/210Km/h sometime, it sound really noisy...
but i like it..
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I only tried driving the Preve Turbo up to 205 km/h once. Several attempts after that failed after I acknowledged that the car was struggling to achieve a higher speed once it hit 160km/h or so.

At 180km/h and above the sound of the engine is so loud that it gives the feeling it is going to explode or something. The sound of the Preve Turbo's engine is diffused in an annoying way in comparison to the linear and robust sound of the Ford Focus' engine which although loud, still sounded fine.
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post May 8 2015, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 8 2015, 05:01 PM)
Okay now I'm not so tied up with work so have some time to explain. It all depends on expectations and also benchmark in the cars that are used for comparison. Saga BLM if I"m not mistaken is 1.3-litre and Preve Turbo is 1.6-litre turbocharged. Both are Campro engines which are known to be not very quiet.

In comparison to the Nissan Sylphy 2.0 that I have owned(currently Ford Focus 2.0) , at higher speeds say 130km/h and above, the noise from the engine of the Preve Turbo is significantly higher than both Nissan and Ford, in an unpleasant way. The Nissan and Ford come in higher-capacity engines, hence the engines may not need to work so hard at higher cruising speeds and as such, noise levels are comparatively low. Cruising at 130-140km/h with both Nissan and Ford is still comfortable due to the lower noise levels. You don't feel that the engine is stressed in any way.

Even up to a cruising speed of 160km/h, the engines in the Nissan and Ford are still not too noisy, whereas the Preve Turbo's engine will get real loud at this point. Occupants in the car wont' feel comfortable due to the noise from the engine.

Other than sound levels in the cabin, the difference between the Nissan Sylphy and the Ford Focus when cruising at higher speeds is the Nissan Sylphy wobbles and shows instability whereas the Ford Focus is rock steady. The Preve Turbo's stability at higher cruising speed is better than the Nissan Sylphy due to the stiffer suspension but still cannot match that of the Ford Focus.
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Thanks for the explanation.

ya i didn't expect me driving at 130kmph at all time even on highway. Me as a light footed driver mostly drive at 120kmph the fastest

i guess for a 60k car, we cant complain much on the engine noise level. that's call unrealistic expectation.

hey u comforted me when u said preve stability at higher cruising speed is better than sylphy.

well i have driven a 2.0 accord the fastest 160kmph. yes engine still quiet but damn the car was shaky and wobly. i guess same as Sylphy.

Ford Focus is my dream car.

Well if i can afford, i hope that is my next car. biggrin.gif But i dont like the interior. Looks like Japanese car.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: May 8 2015, 05:29 PM
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post May 8 2015, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 8 2015, 05:22 PM)
Thanks for the explanation.

ya i didn't expect me driving at 130kmph at all time even on highway. Me as a light footed driver mostly drive at 120kmph the fastest

i guess for a 60k car, we cant complain much on  the engine noise level. that's call unrealistic expectation.

hey u comforted me when u said preve stability at higher cruising speed is better than sylphy.

well i have driven a 2.0 accord the fastest 160kmph. yes engine still quiet but damn the car was shaky and wobly. i guess same as Sylphy.

Ford Focus is my dream car.

Well if i can afford, i hope that is my next car. biggrin.gif
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Nissan cars are well known for their NVH. Very quiet cars but they do badly in stability due to the soft-comfort tuned suspension. The suspension soaks up the bumps and irregularities of the roads well, but at higher speeds, the suspension goes up and down with the undulations and imperfections of the road, thus giving a floaty feeling. Some say it rocks like a boat, and this term fits the Nissan Sylphy well.

There is a car for every purpose. If you want quietness then Nissan (or Toyota) Sylphy and Altis upwards would give you that. They are family cars. But for sporty driving they are not too suitable. The Proton Preve Turbo is not so quiet when compared to these cars but performance in handling and high speed cruising is more stable than these Japanese cars. Comfort-wise the Preve Turbo lost to the Japanese but performace and handling is either on par or better, except the Mazda maybe.

Similarly I have driven my colleague's previous generation Honda Accord 2.4 and test-drove the latest version Honda Accord 2.4 last year. Honda Accord's suspension also felt like the Nissan Sylphy. Ride was bumpy even when driven at speeds below 100km/h around the test-drive route. I presume handling and stability are not the priority for Japanese cars as they are meant for families. They are designed more towards comfort, especially D-segment.

Ford Focus is something in between. It is a family car also but it blends well between comfort and performance(though back seat space is small, lost to Preve in this aspect). The handling of the Focus is on another level from all Japanese cars from the handling in steering sharpness and suspension. The steering feel between the Focus and the Preve is like heaven and earth. Totally different feel in the weight and tuning.


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post May 8 2015, 08:43 PM

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im having my 60K service tomorrow. i am expected to pay around rm 1200.

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post May 9 2015, 11:55 AM

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I recommend for those who said that the engine sound ks very disturbing please go and do E-Seal and Silent Coat for the whole car. After you had done that the noisy sound will be reduce a lot compared to last time.

I had done that in my car and the result will shows. This will also made the driver and passenger more comfortable in the car. Wind noise from side door panel will be cut off or reduce too.

Especially after you had done E-Seal when you close the door the sound is quite different.

Mine is IAFM+ CVT2 the noisy sound is very annoying then I done the 2 thing above now it gives me better ride with lesser noise a lot. Wind sound oitside other vehicle sound will be reduce.

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post May 9 2015, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 7 2015, 05:32 PM)
Apologies if I have offended you but I do admit that I may be critical when it comes to assessing things and usually don't hide the flaws or weaknesses. I am quite analytical in person. That goes the same with my other car that I own, the Ford Focus.

The term "pussy" has different meanings. One being a weakling and the other being vulgar word for the female genital. I hope you are not referring to the latter when you called me a pussy. If it's a weakling, the application of this word is not appropriate either. If you call me critical or fussy, then I can agree.

Issues such as CVT whine and the sound from the engine, these are inherent characteristics of the Preve Turbo. It is not so much related to whether one is driving the car properly. I have driven enough cars for the past 25+ years to know how to judge the characteristics or performance of these cars. Hence, I don't need to know about the details in how to drive the car properly, especially since you have suggested I do not know how to drive the Preve Turbo properly. The knocking sound from the engine is something that i experience in my car. Others who don't experience this knocking does not suggest that the knocking sound had come up because I don't know how to drive the car. I am baffled by your remark.

As for driving the car up Cameron or Genting, I have mentioned I have not driven the car up Genting (though I have driven the Ford Focus up Genting on 3 occasions up to date). The Preve Turbo is more like a care-free car which I often alternate with the Ford Focus. I drive the Ford Focus more these days as I derive more enjoyment from it compared to the Preve Turbo.

I am not suggesting that the S mode in the car is problematic. Rather I am suggesting the S mode is not suitable to be driven at higher speed or higher RPMs. You don't know how I drive my car. I am not particularly gentle with my footwork. I often floor the pedal as in doing hard acceleration with my cars, especially with the Ford Focus. I do drive the Preve Turbo hard at times too, however, I refrain from doing that too often due to the "issues" that had been repeated many times on this thread now. The sound from the engine of the Preve Turbo during hard acceleration is unpleasant. The sound may be acceptably fine to your ears, but it sounded bad to mine.

Please bear in mind I am not exactly bashing the Preve Turbo but am relating my thoughts or opinions on the car. Whether you agree or disagree is fine with me. I have said many times. Despite some shortcomings of the Preve Turbo, it is a good car and value for money compared to overpriced Vios and City.
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All I can say to you kind sir, is use your "S" more often, and stop whining about your Preve. wink.gif And watch as all your petty problems "engine noisy, no power after 120kmh" pffffffft..., "engine knocking during uphill climb" , engine this engine that, all magically disappear..

And really, people here are getting tired of hearing about your Ford Focus. That car is in a different standard, and totally different price. It's getting to be quite a drag hearing you keep going on and on about your Sylphy and Focus in our Preve forum.
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Chill guys, you are all entitled to your own opinion biggrin.gif
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post May 9 2015, 05:29 PM

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Hi All,
Need advice or feedback. My father has bad experience today using proton preve cvt iafm today. It happened when he was going out of parking area going upward ramp, the car suddenly stop. He shocked for a while and decided to change the gear to S.

But, it only move slowly upward despite he fully pressed the throttle.

Any idea what went wrong and any advice?

Prior to this, there were a few occasions, where the car jerks after moving from stop i.e.: at roundabout or traffic light. Not sure whether this is related issue or not.

Thank you guys in advance.
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post May 9 2015, 07:15 PM

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Hi all,

Saya merupakan pemilik preve model 2015. Ingin bertanya kepada otai2, sy pnya HU creates a sound likes 'disc tersekat'. Monitor and touch screen all function very well but it doesn't produce sound through the speakers. Only can hear the "disc tersekat" . Go to Proton Service Center at Tanah Merah and surprisely the radio function very well at that time thou kitaorg cuba on and off for several times. So i decided to go home first and after a walking distance,start to happen again ma. Refuse to go back there as it's already late.Make me confuse. Kindly need assistance otai2 sekalian as input for me before further action.Thank you.
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post May 9 2015, 08:36 PM

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Hi guys , ive had a new preve cfe for more than a couple of weeks now and I have reached 1010 km on the odo due to the fact that I had to go out of town for an emergency .

The question is , is there a leeway when it comes to the first service that will not affect my 5 year maintenance ? For instance plus 50km or minus 50km ? I did not affect my maintenance yet have i ?

Im really a newbie so memang taktau
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post May 9 2015, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(pyrovier1689 @ May 9 2015, 08:36 PM)
Hi guys , ive had a new preve cfe for more than a couple of weeks now and I have reached 1010 km on the odo due to the fact that I had to go out of town for an emergency .

The question is , is there a leeway when it comes to the first service that will not affect my 5 year maintenance ? For instance plus 50km or minus 50km ? I did not affect my maintenance yet have i ?

Im really a newbie so memang taktau
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its ok to over some mileage.. just go to service whenever u back to your hometown.. i do my 1st service at mileage clock around 1250km
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QUOTE(pyrovier1689 @ May 9 2015, 08:36 PM)
Hi guys , ive had a new preve cfe for more than a couple of weeks now and I have reached 1010 km on the odo due to the fact that I had to go out of town for an emergency .

The question is , is there a leeway when it comes to the first service that will not affect my 5 year maintenance ? For instance plus 50km or minus 50km ? I did not affect my maintenance yet have i ?

Im really a newbie so memang taktau
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I send my preve for first service after clock 1160km on the odometer. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fastgrab @ May 9 2015, 05:29 PM)
Hi All,
Need advice or feedback. My father has bad experience today using proton preve cvt iafm today. It happened when he was going out of parking area going upward ramp, the car suddenly stop. He shocked for a while and decided to change the gear to S.

But, it only move slowly upward despite he fully pressed the throttle.

Any idea what went wrong and any advice?

Prior to this, there were a few occasions, where the car jerks after moving from stop i.e.: at roundabout or traffic light. Not sure whether this is related issue or not.

Thank you guys in advance.
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Bro, this car is different from those ordinary car.

U encounter that because your clutch had not engaged. The feeling was like driving a manual car.

Therefore, in order for you to not moving backward when encounter sloppy area, my advice to you is pull your handbrake, release foot brake, press the pedal and release the handbrake.


The clutch had not engaged yet, and when you press the pedal, u feeling like the car doesnt move or more worst, engine Death. (You can request to update to the latest software (ECU) Heard that the latest is released on March 2015 for Exec and do clutch adaptation) U will felt better). When stop to go situation, let the car automatically move 1sec or more after you switched to gear D. Don press the pedal immediately after u release your foot brake. Let the clutch to engaged 1st.

So yeah, i still prefer torque converter with CVT like Honda City. rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by theonlyvin: May 10 2015, 05:11 AM
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post May 10 2015, 07:53 AM

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Im getting my car next week. After of weeks of waiting.

The exec cvt do t come with tint and i dont want spend so much on tint

What is tbe prive range for fulll car UV tint? Im think of getting Raytech

And what else should i do or buy? My car is black. should i polish/wax a new car?
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QUOTE(preveverp @ May 9 2015, 02:58 PM)
All I can say to you kind sir, is use your "S" more often, and stop whining about your Preve. wink.gif  And watch as all your petty problems "engine noisy, no power after 120kmh" pffffffft..., "engine knocking during uphill climb" , engine this engine that, all magically disappear..

And really, people here are getting tired of hearing about your Ford Focus. That car is in a different standard, and totally different price. It's getting to be quite a drag hearing you keep going on and on about your Sylphy and Focus in our Preve forum.
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I think is good that he make comparison with those much more expensive car so that people who are keen on this car will aware of the tradeoff for the price they are paying. 69k for a C segment car in msia, cannot expect much.

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post May 10 2015, 09:47 AM

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I agree with @SportyHandling. There are reasons why cars such as the Focus cost more than the Preve. Mostly it is the "refinement" in both fit & finish, and the NVH.

Compared to more expensive cars, the Preve is "rougher". Preve does the job very well, but lacks refinement. If that is what you are looking for the Preve might no be for you.

The same when you compare a Toyota Camry vs a MB E-Class. The refinement is where the price difference is. You might not see it in a glance, but those who are used to such refinement might not be willing to settle for lesser thus they'd still buy another E-Class.

Horses for courses. Different people different taste.
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post May 10 2015, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 9 2015, 10:54 PM)
its ok to over some mileage.. just go to service whenever u back to your hometown.. i do my 1st service at mileage clock around 1250km
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QUOTE(far1470 @ May 9 2015, 11:22 PM)
I send my preve for first service after clock 1160km on the odometer. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks lads , that was very helpful smile.gif
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post May 10 2015, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 10 2015, 07:53 AM)
Im getting my car next week. After of weeks of waiting.

The exec cvt do t come with tint and i dont want spend so much on tint

What is tbe prive range for fulll car UV tint? Im think of getting Raytech

And what else should i do or buy? My car is black. should i polish/wax a new car?
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Tint from few hundred to thousand also have ,depend on its heat rejection rate .
For new car you can do wax and NOT polish , if you have some budget , is recommended you do a glass coating for more long lasting protection then wash .
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QUOTE(pyrovier1689 @ May 9 2015, 08:36 PM)
Hi guys , ive had a new preve cfe for more than a couple of weeks now and I have reached 1010 km on the odo due to the fact that I had to go out of town for an emergency .

The question is , is there a leeway when it comes to the first service that will not affect my 5 year maintenance ? For instance plus 50km or minus 50km ? I did not affect my maintenance yet have i ?

Im really a newbie so memang taktau
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is strongly NOT recommended you service more then 1000 km , try to go to any authorized proton service centre to do a first service ASAP . Proton always have rights to void your warranty even you has just exceed a little bit on mileage cry.gif
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QUOTE(vincent818 @ May 10 2015, 04:01 PM)
is strongly NOT recommended  you service more then 1000 km ,  try to go to any authorized proton service centre to do a first service ASAP . Proton always have rights to void your warranty even you has just exceed a little bit on mileage  cry.gif
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yeah man , thats y i am driving my other car now , btw do i book for service or can i just walk in ?
First new car so really in the taktau zone here

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