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Here's the original thread in case anyone wants to see it.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=328740&hl= Chastise, you can check to confirm that I haven't played around with the wording in case you don't trust me. |
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Yeah. it still cost you money but you shouldn't sell it off as original and lied to customer about it.
Even the controller doesnt have "h" on it. I supposed that's fake as well? Ive sent it to a shop at sg wang to test it. and it has lens problem cos it will hang while playing other games. and as i said i didnot experience this when i tested it with my other console. You are being dishonest in this. |
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I am being in no way dishonest. As stated in post two, I played with the PS2 a day before you picked it up from my home. It had no disk read problems and I experienced no lockups. I reported information in my thread based on what I knew. I believe DjiNn has a write-up on how to pick apart an Original controller from an AAA grade one.
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In that case, a buyer is supposed to absord all your losses?
How do i know if the console is working well before you passed it to me? All i know is the controller is faulty when i got it and told you about it. And now you are denying it? |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:21 PM
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Yeah. Original controller has "H" engraved and wordings on the wire. Yours has "A" and not "H"....
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Sep 22 2006, 07:26 PM
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The controller is not faulty and I never denied this. The R2 shoulder button gets stuck. However, all shoulder buttons are in working order. You exaggerate your claims when you say that both L2 and R2 are not functioning ingame.
I offered to prove to you that everyone was in working order but you declined as your friend was waiting in the car. As we're both disatisfied with the outcome of this scenario, why not return my PS2? Certainly there has been some loss in time, but that's it. No one has an obligation to 'absorb losses'. If anything, I'm losing out here. Two months of use and an RM270 depreciation of value does not sit well with me. |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 07:21 PM) Yeah. Original controller has "H" engraved and wordings on the wire. Yours has "A" and not "H".... Perhaps it's a different batch? For crying out loud, that's a single letter. What in hell is that supposed to tell you? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=88715&st=35 DjiNn's writeup on telling apart an original controller from an AAA grade one. As stated earlier, I had no intention of 'cheating' you, nor do I feel that I have cheated you. I merely passed on the information that I had been given from the retail store from which I had purchased the PS2. |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:31 PM
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Well, Ive sent your whole set of console to a shop. That was the outcome.
Yeah yeah yeah...whatever you say. You have lied about the originality of your console, you can further protect yourself with more lies. |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:33 PM
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I have made no accusations here and I expect you to do the same. It's a little something called civility. If you're satisfied with the outcome of the situation, then what is there to resolve? If you'd rather have your money returned to you, I can give it back to you in full. Certainly I'd need my console, the box, and accessories back as well.
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Sep 22 2006, 07:38 PM
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blah blah blah...
You can always ask DjiNn if there's any problems with this. Who's the one not civilise here when replying my PM. I have asked you nicely and I got replies like "hell" , "bullshit". What a "civilised" seller we have here. You promised to compensate me on refunds and now you are saying otherwise. really regret for dealing with such a dishonest seller. Good! Ill have all your stuffs returned and i want my RM450 back! BTW, the "H" is how ppl use to check fake controllers. Get your facts right! This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 22 2006, 07:40 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:41 PM
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Once again with the accusations? Please. You try my patience - forgive me for my harsh language. I did not write with intent of offending you, merely to stress my points.
My refund policy rests as is. You can return my PS2 and everything that came with it, neatly wrapped up in its box. I'll make no fuss about it and I'll return you your money. |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:45 PM
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from wat i see....yati has a point....ive seen his thread...everything seems to beclearly stated. and why didnt u tried the console in the first place?so wat if ur fren is waiting in the car? yati wanted to let u try it but yet u declined to try. and after such a long time u decide to try n complain about it. maybe nex time its advisable to test out items before u buy.....trust no one but urself....
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Sep 22 2006, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 07:38 PM) blah blah blah... I will return your RM390 to you. You paid me RM450 and I allowed you to knock down the price to RM440 because you didn't like the plug type. I gave you back an additional RM50 to aid you in the purchase of a new original PS2 controller the next day.You can always ask DjiNn if there's any problems with this. Who's the one not civilise here when replying my PM. I have asked you nicely and I got replies like "hell" , "bullshit". What a "civilised" seller we have here. You promised to compensate me on refunds and now you are saying otherwise. really regret for dealing with such a dishonest seller. Good! Ill have all your stuffs returned and i want my RM450 back! BTW, the "H" is how ppl use to check fake controllers. Get your facts right! I'm confused as to how much a single embossed character on a plastic surface can tell you. You'd think that the 'H' wouldn't mean much - I'm sure the people responsible for the production of AAA grade controllers know how to label their controllers with a letter 'H' instead of a letter 'A', right? |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 07:41 PM) Once again with the accusations? Please. You try my patience - forgive me for my harsh language. I did not write with intent of offending you, merely to stress my points. Okay. Ill return everything to you and you refund my money + what you have promised when you wanna save your $$ on your cab fees!My refund policy rests as is. You can return my PS2 and everything that came with it, neatly wrapped up in its box. I'll make no fuss about it and I'll return you your money. QUOTE(vickyrao @ Sep 22 2006, 07:45 PM) from wat i see....yati has a point....ive seen his thread...everything seems to beclearly stated. and why didnt u tried the console in the first place?so wat if ur fren is waiting in the car? yati wanted to let u try it but yet u declined to try. and after such a long time u decide to try n complain about it. maybe nex time its advisable to test out items before u buy.....trust no one but urself.... Clearly stated? Like? FAKE controllers and meory card??Or the personal warranty part? He gave me personal warranty when we deal even during phone conversation is that's what you meant... |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 07:52 PM) I will return your RM390 to you. You paid me RM450 and I allowed you to knock down the price to RM440 because you didn't like the plug type. I gave you back an additional RM50 to aid you in the purchase of a new original PS2 controller the next day. I didn't like the plug type? I hope you can use your brain here.. how am i suppose to use when it's different plug?? and you DIDNT tell me beforehand?I'm confused as to how much a single embossed character on a plastic surface can tell you. You'd think that the 'H' wouldn't mean much - I'm sure the people responsible for the production of AAA grade controllers know how to label their controllers with a letter 'H' instead of a letter 'A', right? What am i gonna do with the new controller now? Okay fine. You have tricked me into this and now i'm only asking for what you promised to compensate me ie. RM20 on all the stuffs. This was what you promised the other day and now you are not paying it. you can check it with DjiNn if what i said is right. I think it's better if you can gimme a call to settle this stuff. No point doing this right now. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 22 2006, 07:57 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 07:57 PM
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I'd like to have control over the refund policy, if that's alright with you. I'm a student and I don't make any money. You have a job and as such, I'd think that you could manage your own gasoline fees. The time is lost. So be it.
This is the third or fourth time I'm bringing this up - what I wrote in my thread was composed to the best of my knowledge. I trusted the owner of the retail store from which I purchased the PS2 on the authenticity of the Memory Card. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 07:54 PM) I didn't like the plug type? I hope you can use your brain here.. how am i suppose to use when it's different plug?? and you DIDNT tell me beforehand? I clearly stated that I purchased the PS2 from Shanghai, China. You should know that not there is no universal standard for power sockets. China shares the same standard as Japan and I like buying products in China because the sockets work without fault in America.What am i gonna do with the new controller now? Okay fine. You have tricked me into this and now i'm only asking for what you promised to compensate me ie. RM20 on all the stuffs. This was what you promised the other day and now you are not paying it. you can check it with DjiNn if what i said is right. I think it's better if you can gimme a call to settle this stuff. No point doing this right now. I'm out of credit on my phone and I don't want to use my house phone to make a call out. My parents have no knowledge about this transaction and I'd rather that they never hear of it. I did not trick you and I had no intent of ever 'cheating' you. I wrote everything down with the best of my knowledge and with no intent to deceive. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:05 PM
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All you wanna do is to save cost on everything.
How would i know what socket is china using. You should tell me before that. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:08 PM
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Actually the main problem here is not about the socket or controller or whatever.
it's about the console! The lens has problem that's why im asking for refund here! As i said i didnt care about the socket and controller. I didn't mind if the stuffs are fake i did told you about it. As long as it's working well i dont mind. But now the lens is not working well..that's why i demand for refund. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 22 2006, 08:09 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:16 PM
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You make me seem like a cheap person - I don't appreciate that. You've launched more than enough personal attacks in this thread, even daring to call me uncivilized. I'm a student and I have better uses for my time and money than to hire a cab just so I can give you some cash. I have studies to attend to.
If you'd like to discuss how best to resolve this issue, I'm all for it. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:20 PM
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From what I see here. It's just some misunderstanding.
Yeti should tell threadstarter about all real info before selling it. And yeti might not be aware of the lens problem. But since it occured and it's still udner pw period. He should refund plus what he promised the threadstarter on the petrol part. Since the threadstarter driving back and forth from and to your place. Why don't you just pay some on this? Then this problem can be settled nicely. And since you don't want your parents to know about this, I think it's the best way to do it. This post has been edited by Folio: Sep 22 2006, 08:24 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(Folio @ Sep 22 2006, 08:20 PM) And yeti might not be aware of the lens problem. But since it occured and it's still udner pw period. He should refund plus what he promised the threadstarter on the petrol part. What strikes me as odd is that the lens just now started acting up. I barely touched the PS2 while I had it, and it's only two months old. I saw the retail store owner mod the PS2 for me, the box was completely unopened.Since the threadstarter driving back and forth from and to your place. Why don't you just pay some on this? Then this problem can be settled nicely. Perhaps we'll have to compromise on a COD location. I might be heading out to KLCC sometime. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 08:16 PM) You make me seem like a cheap person - I don't appreciate that. You've launched more than enough personal attacks in this thread, even daring to call me uncivilized. I'm a student and I have better uses for my time and money than to hire a cab just so I can give you some cash. I have studies to attend to. so what being a student? i see u always stress out that u r a student If you'd like to discuss how best to resolve this issue, I'm all for it.  even if u r student n u intend to sell something, u need to be responsible for all the sales u conducted no, using ur status as student is not a valid reason to save time n money when u wana do business.. dont do if u have no time for god sake |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 08:23 PM) What strikes me as odd is that the lens just now started acting up. I barely touched the PS2 while I had it, and it's only two months old. I saw the retail store owner mod the PS2 for me, the box was completely unopened. if you barely use it..how the h*ll the controller is gonna kaput so fast??Perhaps we'll have to compromise on a COD location. I might be heading out to KLCC sometime. The console can't play the games which i can play in my own console. okay. where did you mod it? in KL? if yes you just tell me the place and i check with them if it's the modchip problem or it's the lens problem. Fair? This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 22 2006, 08:28 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 08:27 PM) okay. where did you mod it? in KL? if yes you just tell me the place and i check with them if it's the modchip problem or it's the lens problem. I purchased it in Shanghai, China and got it modded at the same shop.Fair? |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 08:23 PM) What strikes me as odd is that the lens just now started acting up. I barely touched the PS2 while I had it, and it's only two months old. I saw the retail store owner mod the PS2 for me, the box was completely unopened. Just compensate what you promised then I think both parties will be happy.Perhaps we'll have to compromise on a COD location. I might be heading out to KLCC sometime. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 08:29 PM) I purchased it in Shanghai, China and got it modded at the same shop. Okay. so there's no way to check the craftmanship of it then.I dont' want to make a big fuss about this. Just compensate what you promised then im done with this. Whatever losses on the new controller and stuffs. Fine ill bear it. I just want you to pay me what you promised. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 08:33 PM) Whatever losses on the new controller and stuffs. Fine ill bear it. I just want you to pay me what you promised. Well, how much is that, then? Whatever cash you gave me? |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:47 PM
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Why don't both of you discuss this using PM?
Since both has already compromise on this. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 08:35 PM) Well, how much is that, then? Whatever cash you gave me? No. You promised on paying RM30 on this refund during our phone conversation the other day. |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 08:53 PM) No. You promised on paying RM30 on this refund during our phone conversation the other day. How much issit altogether? RM450+rm30 or RM390+RM30? |
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Sep 22 2006, 08:59 PM
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it's 390 plus 30...
I think it's reasonable enough.. |
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Sep 22 2006, 09:04 PM
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ok. Yeti why don't you just pay the threadstarter RM30 then case close. You were wrong by lying to the threadstarter about the original and fake stuffs.
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Sep 22 2006, 09:19 PM
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He wouldnt want. He's not paying me what he promised because he's not happy with what i did here. RM30 might not be alot for you as you are living in a bungalow and your family is rich. But i'm a student too and im working part-time to support myself. I have to pay for my own petrol and you made me travelled so many times to your house for this matter because you wanna save cost on trnasportation. And i purposely forked out $$ on new controller because i thought ti will work fine. My fault for trusting you.
And you promised that you will pay all my transportation cost during the phone conversation. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 22 2006, 09:22 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 10:37 PM
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He is not replying here and my PM as well.
Cos he doesn't dare to post here anymore. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 22 2006, 10:42 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 10:42 PM
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Yeah, I was working on SAT prep. I have a life outside of TEH INTRAWEB, just to let you know.
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Sep 22 2006, 10:44 PM
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I didn't try to cheat anyone. I don't think I cheated you, either. I myself was misinformed and the information I posted may have been inaccurate. I did it with no intention to deceive. Is that still lying?
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Sep 22 2006, 10:45 PM
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still havent settle? Don't worry you know his address. Worse comes to worst just go to his place and get your $$ back from him or his parents.
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Sep 22 2006, 10:48 PM
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Im not happy with the irresponssible attitude and your harsh language when replying my PM. If you really wanna make this issue bigger. I don't mind. I've lost alot of time, money, effort in this. If you wanna make it bigger. No problem with me!
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Sep 22 2006, 10:49 PM
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Is that a threat? :\ Harsh language? I thought we settled that earlier.
I think I've been pretty calm throughout this whole incident. I don't recall having made any promises to give you money. That was resolved after I refunded you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller. This post has been edited by yetieater: Sep 22 2006, 10:51 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 10:49 PM) Is that a threat? :\ Harsh language? I thought we settled that earlier. What threat? I don't see any threat going on here. You dont want your parents to know about this. Okay ill keep it from your parents. You promised during the phone conversation that you will compensate me when i refund. Now you are going back of your promise!I think I've been pretty calm throughout this whole incident. I don't recall having made any promises to give you money. That was resolved after I refunded you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller. |
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Sep 22 2006, 10:57 PM
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I've already said this in my PMs to you. I didn't promise you a damn thing. I said I flirted with the idea of just paying you a bit of money for your time if you got me my PS2 back, but that was a week ago. We hammered out a compromise where I'd refund you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller, which I did. I've kept my end of the bargain here. Neither of us wants to spend more time in this. I'm not looking to budge from my position, and you aren't either. So now what? You insist that I promised you money when we already had that matter resolved last week.
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Sep 22 2006, 10:59 PM
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You told me if i want refund you will pay me for compensation if there's anything wrong with it. For all my transportation and stuffs. Now you going back of your promise?
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Sep 22 2006, 11:01 PM
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it's only 30bucks. just pay what u promised then case close lah.
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Sep 22 2006, 11:04 PM
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That's not what I said. I didn't promise you anything. How many times do I have to repeat myself for you to understand this?
QUOTE I said I flirted with the idea of just paying you a bit of money for your time if you got me my PS2 back, but that was a week ago. We hammered out a compromise where I'd refund you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller, which I did. I've kept my end of the bargain here. Neither of us wants to spend more time in this. I'm not looking to budge from my position, and you aren't either. So now what? You insist that I promised you money when we already had that matter resolved last week. Can you disagree with that? You want a full refund, fine. I don't owe you gas money because that was already resolved as of last week. I am not paying any more than you paid me. You put time and effort into the transaction because you felt that the situation warranted it. Like I said, store owners don't give you gas money when you don't like their products. It doesn't work that way. |
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Sep 22 2006, 11:28 PM
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Yeah because the store owners NEVER promise me anything but you did!
And now you are going behind your promise! |
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Sep 22 2006, 11:33 PM
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I didn't promise you anything. Stop making a scene over that. You're just trying to get more money out of me and I refuse to allow that to happen. I already explained myself twice. What in hell do you want now?
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Sep 22 2006, 11:40 PM
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Making money out of cheapos like you? If you wanna be harsh with language ill do the same. At first i asked you nicely about it but your reply was rude. That's why im not happy about it.
It's just that you promised me something but you dont want to pay now. have you heard of seller who wants to sell stuff but doesnt wanna fork out money for cab? and wants the buyer to bear everything? |
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Sep 22 2006, 11:43 PM
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You've insulted me far too many times. I'm too f***ing nice here. You deal with the PS2, I'm not paying you jack shit. I've had enough of this nonsense. I'm going to sleep this off.
Good bye and good riddance. I refuse to entertain any further requests from you. I demand that you give me RM500 if you want a refund of my PS2. ^ There's a taste of your own cheapskate medicine, right there. Stop being such a stickler and learn to back down for once kthxbai. This post has been edited by yetieater: Sep 22 2006, 11:44 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 11:43 PM
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Yeti, why wouldnt you pay the threadstarter? everyone wants deals to go smoothly but the way you do it is wrong when you provide wrong information about it.
and you want to save money on taxi when you want to sell things? be a good seller pay what you promise la... |
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Sep 22 2006, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 11:43 PM) You've insulted me far too many times. I'm too f***ing nice here. You deal with the PS2, I'm not paying you jack shit. I've had enough of this nonsense. I'm going to sleep this off. Great! so we have a con case here?Good bye and good riddance. I refuse to entertain any further requests from you. I demand that you give me RM500 if you want a refund of my PS2. ^ There's a taste of your own cheapskate medicine, right there. Stop being such a stickler and learn to back down for once kthxbai. |
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Sep 22 2006, 11:49 PM
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Final choice: You can continue talking crap, continue insisting that I promised to pay you without producing proof, continue wasting your time, and continue walking around without your RM390 or you can settle for my full refund. I return your money, you return my PS2 and all accessories.
If you do choose to escalate this, by all means do so. I'm not stopping you. I have neither the time nor the patience to deal with you. This post has been edited by yetieater: Sep 22 2006, 11:51 PM |
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QUOTE(Folio @ Sep 22 2006, 11:01 PM) it's only 30bucks. just pay what u promised then case close lah. Folio, that's enoughwin-win situation. You're blindly supporting your friend here all the way which is not helpful at all This has nothing to do with you so stay out of it This post has been edited by KilJim: Sep 22 2006, 11:56 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 11:59 PM
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Do you think i care much? It's about integrity here. You are supposed to do what you promised! And you promised it through our phone conversation!
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Sep 23 2006, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 11:59 PM) Do you think i care much? It's about integrity here. You are supposed to do what you promised! And you promised it through our phone conversation! This is the third time that I'm bringing this up. I promised you no such thing. Here's something that a friend of mine says that always makes me laugh, "I can't understand you, go back to your country." I have no idea what in hell it's from, but you have to hear it. Absolutely grand.I'm speaking in plain English here and it seems to be skipping right past you. Here. Quoted again. QUOTE I said I flirted with the idea of just paying you a bit of money for your time if you got me my PS2 back, but that was a week ago. We hammered out a compromise where I'd refund you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller, which I did. I've kept my end of the bargain here. Neither of us wants to spend more time in this. I'm not looking to budge from my position, and you aren't either. So now what? You insist that I promised you money when we already had that matter resolved last week. Now, can you disagree with that? |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 11:59 PM) Do you think i care much? It's about integrity here. You are supposed to do what you promised! And you promised it through our phone conversation! i see the problem relies over hereseems like miscommunication/misunderstanding |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:03 AM
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You are just breaking your promise. You can type whatever you want here defending yourself.
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Sep 23 2006, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Sep 23 2006, 12:02 AM) i see the problem relies over here He said that he will compensate me hwen i return the comsole for refund. he admitted saying that too.seems like miscommunication/misunderstanding |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:04 AM) He said that he will compensate me hwen i return the comsole for refund. he admitted saying that too. Where did I do that? Show me.This is all I said: QUOTE I said I flirted with the idea of just paying you a bit of money for your time if you got me my PS2 back, but that was a week ago. We hammered out a compromise where I'd refund you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller, which I did. I've kept my end of the bargain here. Neither of us wants to spend more time in this. I'm not looking to budge from my position, and you aren't either. So now what? You insist that I promised you money when we already had that matter resolved last week. Count that - it's the fourth time I've said that and you still haven't made any rebuttal. Has your argument gone down the drain? |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:07 AM
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By the way, seller not only refuses to refund, but demands compensation of RM500 for time wasted and verbal harrassment.
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Sep 23 2006, 12:08 AM
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I think it's pointless arguing with you like this.
This is just cheapos way of saving money on cab. And promised that you will pay but now you are denying everything. |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:10 AM
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Wake up and smell the roses. You still haven't managed to answer me.
QUOTE I said I flirted with the idea of just paying you a bit of money for your time if you got me my PS2 back, but that was a week ago. We hammered out a compromise where I'd refund you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller, which I did. I've kept my end of the bargain here. Neither of us wants to spend more time in this. I'm not looking to budge from my position, and you aren't either. So now what? You insist that I promised you money when we already had that matter resolved last week. Furthermore, the warranty is bunk. Read: QUOTE(yetieater) Warranty: I won't be covering the PS2 after it's in your hands. as stated in this thread:http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&hl=Playstation So, want to pay me RM500 for calling me all those nasty names? |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 23 2006, 12:10 AM) Wake up and smell the roses. You still haven't managed to answer me. You told me you are gonna give me 1 month warranty when i got it from you!! if not i wont even bother to get from you. and now you are twisting the facts?Furthermore, the warranty is bunk. Read: QUOTE(yetieater) Warranty: I won't be covering the PS2 after it's in your hands. as stated in this thread:http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?show...&hl=Playstation So, want to pay me RM500 for calling me all those nasty names? |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:18 AM
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I'm going to go lawl myself to sleep.
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Sep 23 2006, 12:29 AM
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but black and white agreement(forum post) is a better proof rather than verbal agreement
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Sep 23 2006, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Sep 23 2006, 12:29 AM) but black and white agreement(forum post) is a better proof rather than verbal agreement he did it when we deal. if he's nto giving any personal warranty do you think anyone will get it from him? |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:36 AM
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chastise, u know he was gonna give u at least the 390 back....
Secondly, yetieater keeps telling u he is presenting the ps2 for sale on good intentions that all was original and in good condition n if that shop in Shanghai cheated him then he was unaware of it. Frankly, when he mention in this thread he bought from Shanghai i already knew they skinned him with clone stuff. |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:32 AM) he did it when we deal. if he's nto giving any personal warranty do you think anyone will get it from him? yes, i understand ur reasoningsbut with no solid proof(post/sms/pic etc), its hard for other parties to judge the situation  |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Sep 23 2006, 12:36 AM) chastise, u know he was gonna give u at least the 390 back.... He knows on controller is not working when we deal but when i asked him, he said everything is working well.Secondly, yetieater keeps telling u he is presenting the ps2 for sale on good intentions that all was original and in good condition n if that shop in Shanghai cheated him then he was unaware of it. Frankly, when he mention in this thread he bought from Shanghai i already knew they skinned him with clone stuff. Then he said gonna pay me RM50 for a new controller and ive bought it at RM75. Fine! that's not the issue here. Im just asking for compensation that he promised. If he just pay me RM390 im the one bearing all the losses ie the controller and he was being cheapskate when during the deal cos he wanna save money on cab. |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:53 AM
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Ok.. I've been following u all since like.. 10pm...
From what I've understood so far is buyer wants refund, seller gives refund, but the prob now is at the RM30 transportation and other misc fees involved in this rite? Let's not go till name calling, cursing, and mayb worse over these stuff... To summarize things, the buyer claims the seller already agreed to the extra fees involved, while the seller sez he didnt agree to it. Only prob here is that there is no black and white which means there is no proof and both parties and go on and on shooting each other. Till here correct? What I feel is that, the seller didn't have bad intentions when selling his item... neither did the buyer.. It's RM30 dudes.. Y not, go out, get a drink or smthing, each 1 take RM15 off... which means seller pays buyer RM15 more... and that's it? To buyer : He's been shaving off cash for u time and time again in the sales, should at least agree on he was a nice seller rite? Since u had the chance to test it at the spot u should have, since u had already taken the time and petrol to get to his house. To seller : Well, your item got screwed, and u should've checked if the stuff were ori b4 u sold them since u had stated in ur thread that it was.. So lets get this over with in a civilized manner? Cheers ppl... |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:55 AM
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I think it's better first to take the offer of RM390 like he'd promised. Later only care about the transport fee. I'm feeling pity for the buyer to have absorbing the loss.
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Sep 23 2006, 12:56 AM
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Honestly, Im only asking for the RM30 he promised. Cos iVe paid for a new controller and im giving him back the RM50 for the controller that leaves me with RM75 on something i didnt want. So he promised to compensate RM30 on it. But now he's going back.
Before i go , I asked him before if everything is original and working well he said yes. I trusted him. Then when i reached home the controller is not working. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 23 2006, 12:59 AM |
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Sep 23 2006, 01:16 AM
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It's just pure unlucky for me bumping into a dishonest seller which denies everythign when problem arises.
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Sep 23 2006, 01:43 AM
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wow, this is getting way longer than it should be...
actually, from my point of view, both parties are equally wrong.... to chastise: - whether an item is new or used, test it, checked it...since own urself ps2, u should went to his house prepared, compared ur ps2 item with his.... - ur friend is waiting in the car, for me, i dont really care coz by not testing, checking and unprepared manner, its ur fault.... - u rely on trust, big mistake, its a used item.... - the seller already cut his ps2 price down to rm 390( rm 10 for the plug + refunded rm 50 for the spoilt controller)....u bare the remaining rm 25 for buying new controller... - rm 30 for waste of ur time and petrol, i can only tell u, u can only claim rm 25 for the new controller... to yeti: - darn it, when a customer is not satisfied with u, doesn't matter student or not, u gave him 1 month personal warranty, by meaning, u still need to absorb something.... - though u shaved price from selling ur ps2, either its working b4 giving it to him, u should checked it out with him...best thing, go to his place, check it...be the good guy....or ask him to come over, test it at ur place...then,go teh tarik for his trouble to go to ur house.... to settle this issue..... - yeti, not wanting to pay the rm 30 right...go to his place, refund the money, leave his place, never sell ur ps2 over lyn again by meaning, keep it or sell it to ur friend,chastise must not claim rm30 from u.... - chastise, go back to yeti's place, give back the ps2, take back ur rm 390 + rm 25 for the new controller and thats it, not rm 30 coz its ur fault at first by not testing it at yeti's house and by only relying on seller's trust.... |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:02 AM
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the problem now is..he wants me to absorb EVERYTHING.
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Sep 23 2006, 10:27 AM
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chastise, yetieater words were, 'You pay me RM500 to take back the PS2 for all the insults n trouble you caused me.'
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Sep 23 2006, 10:57 AM
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misleading information = wrong information.
but then i certainly don't see misleading information even on the reference thread. perhaps a lacking of information, but definitely not misleading. since you know those information weren't given on the post - the least you could do is to check on those details before handing the money. perhaps there were things about the PS2 that you had more knowledge about compared to him, yet the problem is you didn't check. so theoretically - when you handed the money over, you're AGREEING that you accept the current condition of the item. it's very kind of yetieater to offer a full refund (or most part of the refund) already. and the part about asking for compensation of travel cost - now that's ridiculous. each one bear his own transportation cost, that's how i look at it. when you BUY something, you're aware that you're taking the risk and the goods may have problems. it's never fair to ask someone to cover your transportation cost. QUOTE(duke_hunt @ Sep 23 2006, 01:43 AM) to settle this issue..... - yeti, not wanting to pay the rm 30 right...go to his place, refund the money, leave his place, never sell ur ps2 over lyn again by meaning, keep it or sell it to ur friend,chastise must not claim rm30 from u.... - chastise, go back to yeti's place, give back the ps2, take back ur rm 390 + rm 25 for the new controller and thats it, not rm 30 coz its ur fault at first by not testing it at yeti's house and by only relying on seller's trust.... i like this one. the bolded one that is. IMO it's about 2 people not willing to give/take when it comes to such situation. This post has been edited by goldfries: Sep 23 2006, 10:59 AM |
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Sep 23 2006, 11:31 AM
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if u want the seller to cover ur travel cost might as well ask him to cover all ur phone calls that u made to him..
ridiculous man..u can't even show any proof that he said he will pay u the travelling costs oso...so how u expect other ppl to believe that?verbal agreement is not enuf..u hv to show it in black and white...u should oso hv checked the item thoroughly when he offered u to do so at his house..and the buyer oso did not take a knife or gun and point at u to ask u to go to his hse to get the item..if ur not satisfied with his terms of asking u to go to his hse u can actually reject his offer and not buy the item from him...now ur asking him to pay u the travel cost...he's nice enuf in his previous posts to offer to refund back the RM390 if u return him the PS2..jz take it and settle everything la..dragging this issue long is not doing anyone any good.. Jz my opinion..dun flame me |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:51 PM
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im not asking him to pay travel cost...im asking him to share part of the losses.
not that i don't want to test it there...it was quite late and im a girl going to a guy's place late at night alone. so i thought since he gave persoanl warranty i trusted him. the problem is he asking me to absorb all the losses cause by the thing! my fault for trusting him is this stuff... he's gonna refund? dream on....he's not even replying sms and answering calls....he just telling you guys here that he is.... |
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Sep 23 2006, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 23 2006, 10:57 AM) misleading information = wrong information. he claimed that the goods are original. ended up it's not. i didn't know it until i compare it with mine.but then i certainly don't see misleading information even on the reference thread. perhaps a lacking of information, but definitely not misleading. since you know those information weren't given on the post - the least you could do is to check on those details before handing the money. perhaps there were things about the PS2 that you had more knowledge about compared to him, yet the problem is you didn't check. so theoretically - when you handed the money over, you're AGREEING that you accept the current condition of the item. it's very kind of yetieater to offer a full refund (or most part of the refund) already. and the part about asking for compensation of travel cost - now that's ridiculous. each one bear his own transportation cost, that's how i look at it. when you BUY something, you're aware that you're taking the risk and the goods may have problems. it's never fair to ask someone to cover your transportation cost. i like this one. the bolded one that is. IMO it's about 2 people not willing to give/take when it comes to such situation. im not asking for compensation on travel cost alone. Im gonna pay rm75 for nothing when i refund this console and he promised to pay me back rm30 for the losses. Now he's going back of his words. so ended im gonna bear the RM75. do you guys actually understand what's going on here? |
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Sep 23 2006, 01:45 PM
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Okay..someone offers to help me by checking the console. if the cost of fixing it under 75 ill bear everything and fix it.
If it's above that amount then ill get RM400 refund. If you are not willing to refund it, then ill make a police report. fair enough. |
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Sep 23 2006, 01:53 PM
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if this is called some sort of business, u sell things and u need to come out extra money when the business fail. i bet who want to do that. by the way, the seller after do the full refund he got his spoiled ps2 back, so who gonna absord the cost of the spoilt ps2. i mean the seller lost big here.
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Sep 23 2006, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 23 2006, 01:53 PM) if this is called some sort of business, u sell things and u need to come out extra money when the business fail. i bet who want to do that. by the way, the seller after do the full refund he got his spoiled ps2 back, so who gonna absord the cost of the spoilt ps2. i mean the seller lost big here. but now he sold to me a spoilt PS. so how?okay. it's not exactly spoilt the lens has problems reading disc. Anyway...ive already have a solution now. See what the seller wants. QUOTE Okay..someone offers to help me by checking the console. if the cost of fixing it under 75 ill bear everything and fix it. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 23 2006, 01:56 PMIf it's above that amount then ill get RM400 refund. If you are not willing to refund it, then ill make a police report. fair enough. |
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Sep 23 2006, 01:56 PM
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chastise, pardon our ignorance or lack of understanding. it's been many pages and sometimes we (ok .....i, me, myself) get a bit lost.
 bear with me.....QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:51 PM) im not asking him to pay travel cost...im asking him to share part of the losses. QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:58 PM) im not asking for compensation on travel cost alone. ok. one you said not asking to pay for travel cost, 2nd one you said "not asking for compensation on travel cost alone..." but nmind - that's not important IMO. QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:51 PM) not that i don't want to test it there...it was quite late and im a girl going to a guy's place late at night alone. ok. this part i understand.  wise move. QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:51 PM) so i thought since he gave persoanl warranty i trusted him. to yetieater - can you verify this? cos if you did, you have to honor it regardless of whether you're a student or not. QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:51 PM) the problem is he asking me to absorb all the losses cause by the thing! did he ask to bear the loss? oh that's improper IMO, seeing that there's no agreement prior to the deal for that.my fault for trusting him is this stuff... he's gonna refund? dream on....he's not even replying sms and answering calls....he just telling you guys here that he is.... QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:58 PM) he claimed that the goods are original. ended up it's not. i didn't know it until i compare it with mine. so far i only see that part being the 1. Original 8MB Sony Playstation 2 Memorycard. 2. Two (2) Original Sony DualShock 2 controllers (One is a little worn down, the other is brand new) i guess that's the problem here. yetieater might have thought it was original when perhaps it's not. ============ actually solution is simple la. now, you paid RM 390 for the PS2 you paid RM 75 for the new controller, yetieater sponsored (ok i have no better word to use. forgive me) RM 50 for it. now to make it easier, your RM390 paid to yetieater was refunded RM 50 for the controller. so now the cost for PS2 is RM 340 and controllers is RM 75 so my suggestion is that 1. yetieater return chastise that RM 340. 2. chastise return yetieater all the goods (PS2 and stuff) 3. the new controller - chastise keep and try to sell off as to the $$$ spent on travel, no choice.  it's part and parcel of the cost when deals don't go well.QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 23 2006, 01:53 PM) if this is called some sort of business, u sell things and u need to come out extra money when the business fail. i bet who want to do that. by the way, the seller after do the full refund he got his spoiled ps2 back, so who gonna absord the cost of the spoilt ps2. i mean the seller lost big here. P&T, when you give a PW and the item spoils - you still (as a good seller) have to bear the cost. i don't see how is it fair that the seller ask the buyer to bear any cost on his side.QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 07:12 PM) [list=1] 2 points i like to point out. [*]Regardless of whether or not the Memory Card was original, it still cost me money [*]I'm a student and have better things to do than to waste cab money going down to a shopping mall to pay you. That's not how I work. 1. the thing is that in the original thread the memory card STATED by yourself that it's original. so if it's not original - i'd say it's fair that either you replace it with an original or some way to apologize and make up for the wrong information you gave. (btw how on earth did you conclude the things are original anyway?) 2. regardless whether you're a student or not. you have a damn lousy attitude for a seller. do you think you're the only one that "have better things to do than waste cab money blablablabla". that's how you work, but it's inappropriate for trading. the thing being sold by you, requires you to be responsible for it - regardless who you are and / or whether it incurs additional costs. being a student doesn't give you any more advantage over the others. a trader is a trader regardless if you're a teen in school or a retiree. This post has been edited by goldfries: Sep 23 2006, 02:02 PM |
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Sep 23 2006, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 23 2006, 01:56 PM) actually solution is simple la. now, you paid RM 390 for the PS2 you paid RM 75 for the new controller, yetieater sponsored (ok i have no better word to use. forgive me) RM 50 for it. now to make it easier, your RM390 paid to yetieater was refunded RM 50 for the controller. so now the cost for PS2 is RM 340 and controllers is RM 75 so my suggestion is that 1. yetieater return chastise that RM 340. 2. chastise return yetieater all the goods (PS2 and stuff) 3. the new controller - chastise keep and try to sell off as to the $$$ spent on travel, no choice. it's part and parcel of the cost when deals don't go well.The cost is RM450. He refunded RM50 |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 01:59 PM) NoNono... alright - i'm lost. LOL. but nmind. (so sorry la k)The cost is RM450. He refunded RM50 my point - both of you work out the $$$ involved. item go back to yeti. money go back to chastise. new controller - present owner go and sell it off. |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:06 PM
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Ill see hwo things go from here. ok?
I think it's best for both parties. If the seller continue to be rude and childish and not refunding. Ill make a police report then we are done. QUOTE Okay..someone offers to help me by checking the console. if the cost of fixing it under 75 ill bear everything and fix it. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 23 2006, 02:06 PMIf it's above that amount then ill get RM400 refund. If you are not willing to refund it, then ill make a police report. fair enough. |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 02:06 PM) Ill see hwo things go from here. ok? ehh - if i were you i'd spare the hassle of time and effort wasted to make a police report over such a petty matter.I think it's best for both parties. If the seller continue to be rude and childish and not refunding. Ill make a police report then we are done. just get someone to fix the PS2 and move on. write it off as a lousy purchase from a not-so-responsible seller (refer to my comments on yetieater on post #86). This post has been edited by goldfries: Sep 23 2006, 02:09 PM |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 01:55 PM) but now he sold to me a spoilt PS. so how? u know what, when there's no profit in a business? both side has to absord the cost of losses as well. u know what? u got the total refund back. so u just lost the travel and time cost. the controller that u bought, it's still new. so it's up to you to keep it for spare or sell it later on to someone. for the seller, after he got the ps2 back, it might be totally spoilt. who knows? the game that used can be play maybe can't , worse come to worse, that ps2 after two months old maybe totally a junk after that. so the seller here lost as well, the cost to buy that new piece of ps2. so his lost is much more bigger than u. why u just can't tolerate on this issue. okay. it's not exactly spoilt the lens has problems reading disc. Anyway...ive already have a solution now. See what the seller wants. i don't see a con case. as very hard to see a seller promise a total refund here. if u still want to make it big. i don't think a police report will do you any good. u just wasting extra time and extra travelling cost. i don't think lens repair will be that cheap. so be prepared to get worst outcome of this. my advice to you is just get a total refund as soon as possible before u can't even get a cent out of it. u just piss the seller off and u expect he will be nice to you. he might changed his mind just pay you half only after this. This post has been edited by Pierce & Tatoo: Sep 23 2006, 02:15 PM |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:15 PM
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In my opinion, at this stage, seems like nobody listen to each other bcos both of u 're too mad, mostly is bcos of the exchange of rude words. Chastise, I think u should take his offer for the refund before he change his mind and just forget abt the rude statements u both made. And remember not all buyer can be so lucky like u which have offer from seller for refund. In my case, I don't even get a single cent back from seller after bought his faulty item with personal warranty, n the seller never bother to reply this Trade Zone Dispute Resolution Corner.
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 12:51 PM) im not asking him to pay travel cost...im asking him to share part of the losses. I'd like to pitch in my own part of the story here. You could easily have asked your friend to join you if you felt in any way uncomfortable at my home. Sure it was late. I was home alone with my little brother and I just wanted to sell off my stuff. I have no interest in you, personally. Hah. You make it seem as if I were interested in something beyond business. I would never stoop that low. Don't even suggest it.not that i don't want to test it there...it was quite late and im a girl going to a guy's place late at night alone. so i thought since he gave persoanl warranty i trusted him. the problem is he asking me to absorb all the losses cause by the thing! my fault for trusting him is this stuff... he's gonna refund? dream on....he's not even replying sms and answering calls....he just telling you guys here that he is.... I would have been fine with a one week personal warranty. However, you asked for a one month warranty. I'm aware that it's common practice for sellers to give one week personal warranties on sold goods. In interests of keeping the trade intact, I agreed to your terms. You have not made any attempt to call me. I just got back from lunch with my family and didn't bring my phone with me. I checked it - no messages from you and no calls. Don't talk crap to get people to side with you. You've insulted me enough times in this thread and you continue to do so with your nonsensical, exaggerated claims. You have not made any attempts to call me or to send me any SMSes. When you did send me SMSes last week, I responded to them as promptly as I could and I took the initiative to call you to sort out the controller issue. I've been laughing throughout this whole situation. The PS2 was in perfect working order a day before she took it from my home. Now she's already had the PS2 examined by another game shop - they've voided my original warranty from Shanghai. There's no telling what's happened to the unit since then. Next time I'll make it perfectly clear that if you so happen to open up the PS2 while it's under my personal warranty, the personal warranty is immediately voided. I can't be certain that you'll be returning my PS2 with its innards untouched. I offered to allow you to test the unit before you left my home, but in interests of time and, apparantly, your own personal safety, you left without a thorough examination of it. I would never write something with intent to deceive, nor would I cheat anyone. |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(cooldreamer @ Sep 23 2006, 11:31 AM) if u want the seller to cover ur travel cost might as well ask him to cover all ur phone calls that u made to him.. If anything, I should have her refund me credit. I've been the one making the most calls in this situation. My phone is clean out of credit, too. This thread description is also misleading. I'm not refusing to give a refund. She's just refusing to work under my terms and conditions. ridiculous man..u can't even show any proof that he said he will pay u the travelling costs oso...so how u expect other ppl to believe that?verbal agreement is not enuf..u hv to show it in black and white...In the future, I'll make a note to make a contract to anyone who buys from me. That way I don't have to argue over paying for gas money. |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:34 PM
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ok yeti, how about stating your terms and conditions here? you guys can shoot-it-out here.
while the both of you slug it out here for a treaty - i'll be ready to delete any unnecessary posts of those who are not involved.  how's that? |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:43 PM
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Could we keep all the posts here for posterity's sake? I might need a good laugh once in a while. Much thanks.
Chastise, I understand that this is an extremely paltry sum that we're dealing with here. However, I'm extremely displeased that you resorted to dishing out personal insults against me. You call me cheap, hint that you felt uncomfortable alone at night picking up the PS2 from my home, accuse me of being a liar, and yet you dare to call me uncivilized? I've tried to remain calm and to keep my composure throughout this ordeal. I expect you to do the same. You are four years my senior and thus, I'd expect you to be somewhat more mature. My PS2 had a warranty from the retail shop from which I purchased it in Shanghai. Next time, please consult with me before you take it into a shop for examination. By taking the PS2 into a shop to pry under the hood, you voided the warranty that I had with the retail shop in Shanghai. I tested the unit thoroughly before packaging it for you and you insist that I sold you a spoiled product. Even if I offer you a full refund of RM390, you're leaving me with a PS2 with a voided warranty and problems that mysteriously popped up while the unit was under your ownership. Do understand that you've thrust me into an uncomfortable situation here. I no longer have the original shop warranty that I had earlier. I make a trip to Shanghai at least once a year - had I run into any problems, I could have gotten repairs conducted there free of charge. However, by voiding the retail warranty, you've stripped me of that privilege. I could have stuck fast with the no warranty policy as stated in my original thread but instead you pushed for a one month personal warranty. I was happy to offer this to you, knowing that the PS2 was in perfect working order the day before you took it. I agreed to the one month personal warranty in best interests of keeping the trade intact. Had the PS2 been faulty, I would not have offered you such a warranty. Take that into consideration - I offered you the warranty only because I knew that the PS2 itself was faultless. We've both wasted time and effort here. Don't continue to make grossly exaggerated claims of irresponsibility on my part. |
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Sep 23 2006, 02:51 PM
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I'd like to write a response to post one of this thread as some of the claims made there are not valid.
QUOTE(chastise) Last week i helped my cousin to buy a PS2 console from yetieater cos he's not from the country. Item bought on 16th Sept. 2006. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&hl=Playstation We have been corresponded which each other for qutie sometime and it was assured that the console is working fine and everything is original. So I went to his place to collect it. When I checked, i noticed that it's 2 pin flat adapter that doesnt fit our electricity supply and have to get a new adaptor for that. He didn't tell me earlier about it and i asked for RM10 dedcution for that. Fine. I asked him when i was checking the console and acc. if all the acc. is original and working. He said it is and everything is working very well as he seldom use it. I trust him and left because it was quite late at that time. He said he will give 1month warranty on that. I have a PS2 myself so i'm quite familiar on how it works. When i reached home i tested it. I noticed that the console doesn't play PS1 and DVDs as claimed.(and i re-confirm with him before i bought it). And the memory card is fake (i have one ori one to compare). And I don't know if the controller's ori cos it doesnt have any "H" sign at the back. The worst part is, one of the controller is faulty (the L2 &R2 button doesnt work, and it have weird sound when u shake it, as if someone parts are broken) The day after that, I called him about this matter. He said will pay me RM50 for a new ori controller. I agreed cos it has been quite a hassle for me looking for a console for my cousin. I asked him if he can meet me at Great eastern mall and he said no cos he will have to pay for the cab fees and then ended up more to the cost. What about my petrol?? Okay, it's either i waste my petrol and get the RM50 or i get nothing. So fine, I went to his place to get the RM50 for the controller and I went to get a new one which costed me RM75. I thought the console would have no problem and I didn't play it till a few days ago. And i noticed the console will hang halfway when playing games and some can't even load.(i tested it with my own console, it works perfectly well). I sent to a shop yesterday, the boss told me that it's either the lens problem or the modchip. And the console runs on 110v but our supply is 240v so it might burned the thing. And yesterday I sent a PM to him regarding this matter politely on how we can deal with this and whether i can get refund for this and some transportation fees for this problem. And he replied in a harsh way and accused me for lowering down his cost. I think I have paid more cost than he does. For my petrol, time, and the controller. I trusted him because I thought he was honest with me abou this. but ended up.... he wasn't and gave me wrong info about the console. (2 Original controllers and Ori memory card) my *ss!! He told me that he will share the lossesl when i'm gonna do full refund when i told him about the controller in a phone conversation. And now, when I'm asking for it... he said he's not gonna do it. He tricked me driving to his place because he wanna save $$ on cabs and now when I' asking for full refund he doesnt wanna compensate the losses involved.. SUch an irresponsible seller. Hope someone here can judge this matter. Thanks! This post has been edited by chastise: Today, 01:07 PM The PS2 does play DVDs. It's common knowledge that not all DVDs will play in the PS2, as any PS2 owner will attest to. I had success watching a box set of 24 and Final Destination, but a number of other DVDs that I had simply would not play back. Bear in mind that I clearly stated this in my original thread. I provided you with information to the best of my knowledge. I trusted the owner of the retail shop from which I originally purchased the PS2 and passed on the same information to you. I wrote out the description on my thread with no intention to deceive, nor to 'cheat' you of your money. A simple letter 'H' embossed on the rear of a controller can't possibly tell you about its authenticity. The people manufacturing AAA-grade controllers could just as easily emboss a letter 'H' to give buyers confidence. I was under full impression that the controller was original and unless you can prove otherwise, I stand by my case. I offered to bank in the RM50 for you at the next possible opportunity. I would have gotten your money for you by this weekend but instead you decided it was in your own best interests to drive up to my home and collect your RM50. The power brick that is supplied with the Sony Playstation 2 is compatible with both 110V and 240V. You have not burned out anything. The PS2 itself runs off of DC, not AC. Input voltage is not an issue. Furthermore, I have tested the PS2 with both voltages. I played on it while in China using 240V and used it with 240V again while at my home. I've offered a full refund of your RM390. That's my policy. I made no promises to give you more money. I already posted that some four times inside this thread and you made no attempt to counter my point. The argument is lost on your side and continuously calling attention to it is a vain cause. Here it is again: QUOTE I said I flirted with the idea of just paying you a bit of money for your time if you got me my PS2 back, but that was a week ago. We hammered out a compromise where I'd refund you RM50 towards the purchase of a new PS2 controller, which I did. I've kept my end of the bargain here. Neither of us wants to spend more time in this. I'm not looking to budge from my position, and you aren't either. So now what? You insist that I promised you money when we already had that matter resolved last week. Can you disagree with that? |
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Sep 23 2006, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE I would have been fine with a one week personal warranty. However, you asked for a one month warranty. I'm aware that it's common practice for sellers to give one week personal warranties on sold goods. In interests of keeping the trade intact, I agreed to your terms. And so.. it was under ur warranty that the item spoiled. But fair enough.. u have offered to refund for the console. So.. what's the problem now?? Seriously.. u guys are gonna go at each otehrs throats for the RM30??? This post has been edited by solitarycross: Sep 23 2006, 03:11 PM |
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Sep 23 2006, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(solitarycross @ Sep 23 2006, 03:10 PM) And so.. it was under ur warranty that the item spoiled. he offered to refund back to the buyer in like the 1st page post number 15...but it has been dragged so long and yet the most important thing is the buyer took it to another shop for inspection and i guess they might hv voided the warranty which he has with the shop he bought it from... But fair enough.. u have offered to refund for the console. So.. what's the problem now?? Seriously.. u guys are gonna go at each otehrs throats for the RM30??? wat a trouble |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(cooldreamer @ Sep 23 2006, 03:38 PM) he offered to refund back to the buyer in like the 1st page post number 15...but it has been dragged so long and yet the most important thing is the buyer took it to another shop for inspection and i guess they might hv voided the warranty which he has with the shop he bought it from... PLease make this clear. wat a trouble I brought to the shop to inspect. Did i say the open up the machine? NO.. ask someone who's familiar with ps2 consoles here. they DONT need to open up the machine to see if it's faulty. the lens is right THERE. What's void here? If it still has warranty, are you gonna bring it back to shanghai? LOL! No wonder the lens spoilt. I thought you said your console is barely use but you are watching dvd on it? all i got from him is just lies and lies. and he's not responsible here. try to get your facts right before posting. As I have said, Ill send it for repair if the price is good ill fix it. If it's not, then ill ask for refund. i think that's fair enough. Honestly, i don't mind making a police report if he doesnt wanna refund. I spent enough time on this and i dont mind spending more. |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:14 PM
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well yetieater, u got some explaining to do on "barely use" the console
OT: and having know later that the console aint genuine, do buyer have the rights to claim a refund coz its not ori as stated? |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 23 2006, 02:43 PM) Could we keep all the posts here for posterity's sake? I might need a good laugh once in a while. Much thanks. Why no warranty fro the shop? Did i say the shop open up the machine? Why are you so scared right now? The console has never been open up when i send it to the shop. the just inspect the lens.My PS2 had a warranty from the retail shop from which I purchased it in Shanghai. Next time, please consult with me before you take it into a shop for examination. By taking the PS2 into a shop to pry under the hood, you voided the warranty that I had with the retail shop in Shanghai. I tested the unit thoroughly before packaging it for you and you insist that I sold you a spoiled product. Even if I offer you a full refund of RM390, you're leaving me with a PS2 with a voided warranty and problems that mysteriously popped up while the unit was under your ownership. Do understand that you've thrust me into an uncomfortable situation here. I no longer have the original shop warranty that I had earlier. I make a trip to Shanghai at least once a year - had I run into any problems, I could have gotten repairs conducted there free of charge. However, by voiding the retail warranty, you've stripped me of that privilege. I could have stuck fast with the no warranty policy as stated in my original thread but instead you pushed for a one month personal warranty. I was happy to offer this to you, knowing that the PS2 was in perfect working order the day before you took it. I agreed to the one month personal warranty in best interests of keeping the trade intact. Had the PS2 been faulty, I would not have offered you such a warranty. Take that into consideration - I offered you the warranty only because I knew that the PS2 itself was faultless. We've both wasted time and effort here. Don't continue to make grossly exaggerated claims of irresponsibility on my part. IS that a way for you to blame buyer when you sold a faulty console and you try to accuse someone on opening up your console then you can't claim warranty? OMG you are really funny! QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 23 2006, 02:51 PM) I'd like to write a response to post one of this thread as some of the claims made there are not valid. You DID NOT offer to bank in. Looks like someone is making up stories again!The PS2 does play DVDs. It's common knowledge that not all DVDs will play in the PS2, as any PS2 owner will attest to. I had success watching a box set of 24 and Final Destination, but a number of other DVDs that I had simply would not play back. Bear in mind that I clearly stated this in my original thread. I provided you with information to the best of my knowledge. I trusted the owner of the retail shop from which I originally purchased the PS2 and passed on the same information to you. I wrote out the description on my thread with no intention to deceive, nor to 'cheat' you of your money. A simple letter 'H' embossed on the rear of a controller can't possibly tell you about its authenticity. The people manufacturing AAA-grade controllers could just as easily emboss a letter 'H' to give buyers confidence. I was under full impression that the controller was original and unless you can prove otherwise, I stand by my case. I offered to bank in the RM50 for you at the next possible opportunity. I would have gotten your money for you by this weekend but instead you decided it was in your own best interests to drive up to my home and collect your RM50. The power brick that is supplied with the Sony Playstation 2 is compatible with both 110V and 240V. You have not burned out anything. The PS2 itself runs off of DC, not AC. Input voltage is not an issue. Furthermore, I have tested the PS2 with both voltages. I played on it while in China using 240V and used it with 240V again while at my home. I've offered a full refund of your RM390. That's my policy. I made no promises to give you more money. I already posted that some four times inside this thread and you made no attempt to counter my point. The argument is lost on your side and continuously calling attention to it is a vain cause. Here it is again: Can you disagree with that? You ve been watching dvds on it? No wonder the lens died. Yes, you are right. It has NO PROBLEM running on 240v but do you know that you need a trnasformer for a 110v machine to run 240v supply? If not the machine will overheats and result to damaged lens? You are just denying all your responsiblity. You never reply PMs nor you did anything. One last call, Ill send it for repair ill bear it if it's reasonable. If it's expensive, you refund me. Fair enough? If not, I will surely make a report on this. It might be wasting time for someone else, but for me, i know the way things go in the police station. |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:21 PM
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BARELY USED is a subjective term and watching some DVDs doesn't make it heavy usage either. do consider why he used BARELY ie his activity vs duration of ownership.
what's barely to one may not be barely to another. next time remember to query the seller in detail and ask about their definition of the words / terms they used. |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Sep 23 2006, 10:14 PM) well yetieater, u got some explaining to do on "barely use" the console Yes they do. The buyer can claim on grounds on misrepresentation.OT: and having know later that the console aint genuine, do buyer have the rights to claim a refund coz its not ori as stated? |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 10:22 PM) Yes they do. The buyer can claim on grounds on misrepresentation. this i agree, as the buyer AGREES to buy what was stated - so theoretically anything that deviates from what is stated should be considered as something the buyer did not agree upon. |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:27 PM
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I have stated clearly now. I send for repair cos someone is charging me for the parts only. So i hope it will be cheaper. If it's within my cost, ill pay for it. If it's not then seller refund.
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Sep 23 2006, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 23 2006, 10:21 PM) BARELY USED is a subjective term and watching some DVDs doesn't make it heavy usage either. do consider why he used BARELY ie his activity vs duration of ownership. If you are familiar with PS consoles, watching DVD on Ps is 10x usage of normal game playing.what's barely to one may not be barely to another. next time remember to query the seller in detail and ask about their definition of the words / terms they used.Can ask DjinN about it too. |
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Sep 23 2006, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 10:29 PM) If you are familiar with PS consoles, watching DVD on Ps is 10x usage of normal game playing. Can ask DjinN about it too. which is why i said what i said - cos we don't know exactly how much he watched other than base on what he stated, which could still be lesser than someone that's full time gaming away when it comes to total usage.and which is also why i said "barely used" being a subjective term, therefore one must make sure what the seller meant and understand their definition of it before committing to a deal / agreement (ok this part is meant for everybody. sometimes it's the subjective words that brings misunderstanding.) |
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Sep 23 2006, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 10:27 PM) I have stated clearly now. I send for repair cos someone is charging me for the parts only. So i hope it will be cheaper. If it's within my cost, ill pay for it. If it's not then seller refund. if u send for repair this time, won't the console be opened out this time?If you don't I'll hand this thing to the station. the last time, u said QUOTE Did i say the shop open up the machine? Why are you so scared right now? The console has never been open up when i send it to the shop. the just inspect the lens. somemore, if u so fussy about the console, why not buy a new one and save a lot of your time and trouble. secondhand thing always come with the risk of not being perfect. if you think at it, the seller already want to sell that thing after two months use. |
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Sep 23 2006, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 23 2006, 10:19 PM) ...... do you know that you need a trnasformer for a 110v machine to run 240v supply? If not the machine will overheats and result to damaged lens? curious... can you provide any proper empirical proof to back this statement? afaik, the only part that will heat and possibly burn is the adapter/converter unit itself, and not the actual power bring sent to the PS2 after the conversion process. |
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Sep 23 2006, 11:39 PM
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Best solution i can think off which i mentioned to yetieater in a PM is:
A 3rd party from Lowyat goes with both yetieater n chastise to his own game console shop which he trust to verify the extent of the damage to PS2. |
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Sep 23 2006, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 23 2006, 11:11 PM) if u send for repair this time, won't the console be opened out this time? she did mention that she will send it to shop and find out the repair cost first.if repair - no need to refund. if too costly to repair - she will ask for refund. btw how does one knows if a PS2 is opened? |
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Sep 23 2006, 11:55 PM
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dear chastise...
i got ur pm...thx for pm-ing me... pls, i'm not backing either side here... when u go to a guy's place, never enter alone...2 lady and 1 guy, i guess 2 lady can suffice under any circumstances.... actually, u're only absorbing rm 25 as u already took the rm 50 from him, u only spent rm 25 for the new controller, take it, keep it... my cousin owns a ps2, i myself own an xbox, which part can u see the lense? you can only see the tray ejecting, thats it.... u can only detect faulty when a disc in inserted into the console.... if the shop u sent for inspection didn't pry open the console, u're safe for the personal warranty....but when the shop decide that something should be change and cost more than rm 100, now, u decide....changing will lose warranty from yeti.... but, remember, when the shop pry open the console, then nothing is change but only needed lense tuning, girl....u voided yeti's warranty... as for the police report, since u got no proof of puchase, no case here... what u have is verbal mutual contract...both of u and yeti can change any part of the story while binding this verbal contract.... i can only suggest is that, give back the console to yeti,do not send the console to the shop for repair....i repeat, don't do that..... yeti, give her back the rm 390 and u absorb the remaining rm 25 for the new controller she bought.... from my point of view, this is the only solution...after that, u'll never meet again... This post has been edited by duke_hunt: Sep 23 2006, 11:56 PM |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Sep 23 2006, 11:39 PM) Best solution i can think off which i mentioned to yetieater in a PM is: i like this one too....A 3rd party from Lowyat goes with both yetieater n chastise to his own game console shop which he trust to verify the extent of the damage to PS2. but, if the console needs to be open up, now that's another story coz this involves yeti's personal warranty.... |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 23 2006, 11:40 PM) she did mention that she will send it to shop and find out the repair cost first. there's no way to check thoroughly without open up the console? once open the ps2, the seller will argue on its warranty side. so who wants back a spoilt ps2 and without anymore warranty given by the manufacturer. if repair - no need to refund. if too costly to repair - she will ask for refund. btw how does one knows if a PS2 is opened? i don't know why the buyer so stubborn here. there's many cases where other buyer having troublesome getting a total refund and yet she still complaining not getting extra compensate. well if the outcome worst come to worst, i won't be surprise if she got nothing back in return or just less than full refund. there's so many things can be argue. besides warranty which totally can be a strong point to the seller. the buyer void it by sending to other shop to inspect. in retail business, salesman got his right to reject customer complaint over faulty item if the customer void the warranty at first place. |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:16 AM
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you know what. Ps2 slim console can check when you over the disc part.
The owner told me it's the lens problem. You can check it by looking at the lens. So? What's the problem here now? I just check the cost of repairing the lens. If it's within the cost. Ill fix it. If it's not ill refund. And No. do you guys actualy KNOW how to calculate? He gives me RM390 refund Im absorbing RM75 for the new controller.. Fine. that's not the issue here. I have said earlier. If the repair is too costly. Ill get my refund. If he wouldnt wanna refund. Ill report it. Don't worry on "haiya...little money only police won't care". Ill be fine, cos i know my ways to get the police do their job. And those who told me I don't have a case here, you are just ignorant on how law works. No offence. I've stated the best way to settle this. So done! |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:18 AM
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There's a sticker on the console. If you opened it the sticker will be broken and warranty void.
You guys want proof that the console has been never opened before? Stop making assumptions when you guys dont know anything ok? I have stated that the console has NEVER been open before. It's PS2 slim. you can check the lens by opening the disc cover. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 24 2006, 12:19 AM |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 23 2006, 11:11 PM) if u send for repair this time, won't the console be opened out this time? OMG please read the post before posting.the last time, u said somemore, if u so fussy about the console, why not buy a new one and save a lot of your time and trouble. secondhand thing always come with the risk of not being perfect. if you think at it, the seller already want to sell that thing after two months use. I said we have no case if the price of repair is within RM75. Ill pay for the repair and case close. So when it's opened it's MY problem. If the repair cost is beyond that. Ill get the RM400 refund. Understand? |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 23 2006, 10:31 PM) which is why i said what i said - cos we don't know exactly how much he watched other than base on what he stated, which could still be lesser than someone that's full time gaming away when it comes to total usage.and which is also why i said "barely used" being a subjective term, therefore one must make sure what the seller meant and understand their definition of it before committing to a deal / agreement (ok this part is meant for everybody. sometimes it's the subjective words that brings misunderstanding.) But judgin from this.... [qoute] I'd like to write a response to post one of this thread as some of the claims made there are not valid. The PS2 does play DVDs. It's common knowledge that not all DVDs will play in the PS2, as any PS2 owner will attest to. I had success watching a box set of 24 and Final Destination, but a number of other DVDs that I had simply would not play back. Bear in mind that I clearly stated this in my original thread. [/qoute] This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 24 2006, 12:25 AM |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 12:16 AM) And No. do you guys actualy KNOW how to calculate? He gives me RM390 refund Im absorbing RM75 for the new controller.. Fine. that's not the issue here. ok - now where did that RM 50 he refunded you go? |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 12:18 AM) There's a sticker on the console. If you opened it the sticker will be broken and warranty void. ok, so you stated clear that the console not yet opened and the proof is the sticker still intact, am i right? . and the repair shop tell you is the lens problem. ok so what you need to do is just ASK the price of replacement lens , don't need to do any inspection at all. if the repair cost not much , you will absord it. have you ask the workmanship as well? anyway since you insist you want to let it check by shop. just becareful don't be con by the shop as well. normally the shop will say very cheap this and that and soon you will only found out theres some hidden charges as well like workmanship or might other parts need to be replace besides lens. This is totally more than your RM 75 budget. You guys want proof that the console has been never opened before? Stop making assumptions when you guys dont know anything ok? I have stated that the console has NEVER been open before. It's PS2 slim. you can check the lens by opening the disc cover. rm 75 seems really cheap for just changing a lens? am i doubt it is original as well. anyway like you said "So when it's opened it's MY problem." Yeti , it seems like you don't need to refund after all . Just hope she open up the console. |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 24 2006, 12:32 AM) ok - now where did that RM 50 he refunded you go? actually its from total rm 450.00 - rm 10 - rm 50 = rm 390.rm 10 is for the socket adapter something like that. i 've follow this case from page 1 even read on kopitiam thread as well. |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 24 2006, 12:32 AM) ok - now where did that RM 50 he refunded you go? Ouch.I paid RM450 - RM50 (controller refund) = RM400 + RM 75 (controller) = RM475 Return the console he's gonna pay RM390. RM475(total of everything) - RM390(the money he's giving back) = RM85 - rm10 = RM75 <<<< this is what i paid for the controller. Nvm. ive said this so many times. If the cost if ok ill fix it then case close. If it's not then he will refund RM400. case close as well. If he choses not to refund. Ill make a report and mr policeman will settle a time for us to meet. Done! |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 24 2006, 12:37 AM) ok, so you stated clear that the console not yet opened and the proof is the sticker still intact, am i right? . and the repair shop tell you is the lens problem. ok so what you need to do is just ASK the price of replacement lens , don't need to do any inspection at all. if the repair cost not much , you will absord it. have you ask the workmanship as well? anyway since you insist you want to let it check by shop. just becareful don't be con by the shop as well. normally the shop will say very cheap this and that and soon you will only found out theres some hidden charges as well like workmanship or might other parts need to be replace besides lens. This is totally more than your RM 75 budget. And sorry no, im not gonna open the console unless im gonna fix. Dont be dissapointed ok?rm 75 seems really cheap for just changing a lens? am i doubt it is original as well. anyway like you said "So when it's opened it's MY problem." Yeti , it seems like you don't need to refund after all . Just hope she open up the console. And no. Their charging me for the parts. So it will be cheaper. And mind you. I only need to ask for the parts charges. So i dont need to open up the console.. sorry! So, if the part is expensive Ill get my refund if otherwise ill fix it. Is that clear to you now? Oh yeah. and thank you for following the thread. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 24 2006, 12:46 AM |
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Sep 24 2006, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 12:44 AM) And no. Their charging me for the parts. So it will be cheaper. like i said, i am very clear with what you said. you just need to ask, no need to open up the console at all. so you know the technition very well. no workmanship charges? i see. thats good. after open the console, if they tell you , thats some other thing need to change besides lens, will you be surprise and argue back that the shop just tell you that they said only lens problem and just change lens only. by looking from outside you can only GUESS its lens problem. after you open the console, then only you will figure out what real problem is. if your estimation cost is below rm 75, i would advise you don't risk it by open the console. by the way , just want to ask, why he must refund rm 400 not rm 390 or rm420?And mind you. I only need to ask for the parts charges. So i dont need to open up the console.. sorry! So, if the part is expensive Ill get my refund if otherwise ill fix it. Is that clear to you now? Oh yeah. and thank you for following the thread. This post has been edited by Pierce & Tatoo: Sep 24 2006, 12:59 AM |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 24 2006, 12:32 AM) ok - now where did that RM 50 he refunded you go? Originally, she paid RM440, subsequently she got a refund of RM50 which meant that she paid a total of RM390... After that, she proceeded to purchase a new controller worth RM75.. So if she gets a refund, she'll get back RM390.. Which finally leads to her absorbing RM75.. Get what i mean? |
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Sep 24 2006, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 24 2006, 12:58 AM) like i said, i am very clear with what you said. you just need to ask, no need to open up the console at all. so you know the technition very well. no workmanship charges? i see. thats good. after open the console, if they tell you , thats some other thing need to change besides lens, will you be surprise and argue back that the shop just tell you that they said only lens problem and just change lens only. by looking from outside you can only GUESS its lens problem. after you open the console, then only you will figure out what real problem is. if your estimation cost is below rm 75, i would advise you don't risk it by open the console. by the way , just want to ask, why he must refund rm 400 not rm 390 or rm420? Haih.. how many times you want me to tell you this?IF i have decided to change the lens. WE HAVE NO CASE here! okay? got it? IF it's too costly. HE WILL REFUND! is that clear to you now? |
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i got it. ok have a nice weekend.
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Sep 24 2006, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 24 2006, 01:14 AM) i got it. ok have a nice weekend. Same to you and thanks for following the thread. |
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just to let u know that the seller here is not totally a con man like u said. there's more worst guy that you haven't met. if you can get a total refund like he promised, better get it fast. forget all the lost on travel and time. argueing somemore will only make it worst and you not only make yourself look unfriendly but gets another enemy as well. i heard u said in toyota thread that you accusing him not making a refund to you. but i don;t think it's true. it just you piss him off at the moment so what you expect in return. talk nicely and work it out as soon as possible. no point dragging this .
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Sep 24 2006, 02:15 AM
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print screen of da PMs of him promising u things which he didnt do or is denying. show us more proof for us to understand this situation clearer.
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 01:23 AM) Same to you and thanks for following the thread. You need to behave civilly. You are giving your gender a bad name. There's a word for it. PM me if you want to know.Then again, I know yetieater, so... what do I know? This post has been edited by randomshinichi(): Sep 24 2006, 02:26 AM |
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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Sep 24 2006, 02:15 AM) print screen of da PMs of him promising u things which he didnt do or is denying. show us more proof for us to understand this situation clearer. which PM do i need to post here?About him refunding? He did not reply the PMs i sent regarding this. So how? |
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well, like i say before this in another thread, just admit your mistake and apology for causing any misunderstanding. well some times a word sorry can save a lot of time and solve many problems. take the total refund that he offered and give back the set to him in one piece. so everything back into square one. don't bother anymore about the lost for fuel and time. i think both make no profit here so both have to absord some lost as well.
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 24 2006, 03:06 AM) well, like i say before this in another thread, just admit your mistake and apology for causing any misunderstanding. well some times a word sorry can save a lot of time and solve many problems. take the total refund that he offered and give back the set to him in one piece. so everything back into square one. don't bother anymore about the lost for fuel and time. i think both make no profit here so both have to absord some lost as well. If i can fix it Ill do it.If can't then ill get my refund. Okay? This way is good for both parties now. What's my mistake now? For asking the seller to refund?? Did i say i care about those things now? Ive explained so many times about the solution now. Pls don't ask me to repeat again ok? |
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QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 24 2006, 03:06 AM) well, like i say before this in another thread, just admit your mistake and apology for causing any misunderstanding. well some times a word sorry can save a lot of time and solve many problems. take the total refund that he offered and give back the set to him in one piece. so everything back into square one. don't bother anymore about the lost for fuel and time. i think both make no profit here so both have to absord some lost as well. i seriously dont c why threadstarter need to express 'sorry' to yeti n what is threadstarter's mistake? juz let them settle them self n make no more confusing stuff like posting pm or whateva |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 03:10 AM) If i can fix it Ill do it. i know your solution, so what do you think the seller is pissed off now? if you want your refund, ask nicely. anyway, work out with your solution first then only we talk later on.If can't then ill get my refund. Okay? This way is good for both parties now. What's my mistake now? For asking the seller to refund?? Did i say i care about those things now? Ive explained so many times about the solution now. Pls don't ask me to repeat again ok? no point argueing now, since i don't know your solution works or not yet.  This post has been edited by Pierce & Tatoo: Sep 24 2006, 03:20 AM |
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QUOTE(ChaSm @ Sep 24 2006, 12:59 AM) Originally, she paid RM440, subsequently she got a refund of RM50 which meant that she paid a total of RM390... After that, she proceeded to purchase a new controller worth RM75.. So if she gets a refund, she'll get back RM390.. Which finally leads to her absorbing RM75.. Get what i mean? yours is the 3rd explanation on the same page. so do you think i understand yet? QUOTE(Pierce & Tatoo @ Sep 24 2006, 01:33 AM) just to let u know that the seller here is not totally a con man like u said. there's more worst guy that you haven't met. if you can get a total refund like he promised, better get it fast. forget all the lost on travel and time. argueing somemore will only make it worst and you not only make yourself look unfriendly but gets another enemy as well. i heard u said in toyota thread that you accusing him not making a refund to you. but i don;t think it's true. it just you piss him off at the moment so what you expect in return. talk nicely and work it out as soon as possible. no point dragging this . the most inappropriate part i find is to bring up yetieater in other threads and talking bad stuff about him when he's clearly attempting to settle this matter with you. if you have any dispute, let it remain here. Pierce & Tatoo have given very good advices too. take note. IMO your (chastise) verbal / text abuse isn't helping the situation. |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 06:07 PM) We have been corresponded which each other for qutie sometime and it was assured that the console is working fine and everything is original. So I went to his place to collect it. When I checked, i noticed that it's 2 pin flat adapter that doesnt fit our electricity supply and have to get a new adaptor for that. He didn't tell me earlier about it and i asked for RM10 dedcution for that. Fine. I asked him when i was checking the console and acc. if all the acc. is original and working. He said it is and everything is working very well as he seldom use it. I trust him and left because it was quite late at that time. He said he will give 1month warranty on that. I have a PS2 myself so i'm quite familiar on how it works. When i reached home i tested it. I noticed that the console doesn't play PS1 and DVDs as claimed.(and i re-confirm with him before i bought it). And the memory card is fake (i have one ori one to compare). And I don't know if the controller's ori cos it doesnt have any "H" sign at the back. The worst part is, one of the controller is faulty (the L2 &R2 button doesnt work, and it have weird sound when u shake it, as if someone parts are broken) The day after that, I called him about this matter. He said will pay me RM50 for a new ori controller. I agreed cos it has been quite a hassle for me looking for a console for my cousin. I asked him if he can meet me at Great eastern mall and he said no cos he will have to pay for the cab fees and then ended up more to the cost. What about my petrol?? Okay, it's either i waste my petrol and get the RM50 or i get nothing. So fine, I went to his place to get the RM50 for the controller and I went to get a new one which costed me RM75. I thought the console would have no problem and I didn't play it till a few days ago. And i noticed the console will hang halfway when playing games and some can't even load.(i tested it with my own console, it works perfectly well). I sent to a shop yesterday, the boss told me that it's either the lens problem or the modchip. And the console runs on 110v but our supply is 240v so it might burned the thing. And yesterday I sent a PM to him regarding this matter politely on how we can deal with this and whether i can get refund for this and some transportation fees for this problem. And he replied in a harsh way and accused me for lowering down his cost. I think I have paid more cost than he does. For my petrol, time, and the controller. I trusted him because I thought he was honest with me abou this. but ended up.... he wasn't and gave me wrong info about the console. (2 Original controllers and Ori memory card) my *ss!! He told me that he will share the lossesl when i'm gonna do full refund when i told him about the controller in a phone conversation. And now, when I'm asking for it... he said he's not gonna do it. He tricked me driving to his place because he wanna save $$ on cabs and now when I' asking for full refund he doesnt wanna compensate the losses involved.. SUch an irresponsible seller. Hope someone here can judge this matter. Thanks! No. 1 I would like to know how you compare an original mem card with fake mem card. No.2 Controllers, as u seen in DJinn thread is already like 2 years ago and was not updated since. At this moment the current market has H, A and M at the back and it's REALLY hard to differentiate from the original nowadays. Even DJinn agreed on me in private chats. We have now, Grade B, Grade AAA and Grade 99% which now all suprisingly looks and almost feel the same unless we opened it to check on the board. Like say the back letters does not gives any warranty to that of the original controllers. Plus on my experience, PS2 original controllers have flaws in it. For those who constantly playing Naruto and Winning Eleven, which constantly uses L1,L2,R1,R2 keys are proned of getting stuck. This is based on my experience as a PS2 shop keeper. No.3 It all really depends what PS2 CD you inserted. The seller is using pirated games or ori games to play and what about you. Also would like to know whether YOUR PS2 is the slim version or the fat version. Usually the slim version has a higher chanse of wear and tear of the lense. Cost to change the lense is about RM60-RM200 depending how good is the lense but usually they will still burnout due to overheating. Modchip, likely but hardly...as said, it depends what media (pirated or original) you put in. QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 07:16 PM) Yeah. it still cost you money but you shouldn't sell it off as original and lied to customer about it. Even the controller doesnt have "h" on it. I supposed that's fake as well? Ive sent it to a shop at sg wang to test it. and it has lens problem cos it will hang while playing other games. and as i said i didnot experience this when i tested it with my other console. You are being dishonest in this. QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 22 2006, 07:18 PM) I am being in no way dishonest. As stated in post two, I played with the PS2 a day before you picked it up from my home. It had no disk read problems and I experienced no lockups. I reported information in my thread based on what I knew. I believe DjiNn has a write-up on how to pick apart an Original controller from an AAA grade one. QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 07:31 PM) Well, Ive sent your whole set of console to a shop. That was the outcome. When you send things to another shop for checking doesn't mean you too had not been lied by the shop keeper. Sorry, this is based on experience and even friends do that too. The only way to check the originality of a console, controller and mem card is by opening it and check on the circuits board. Yeah yeah yeah...whatever you say. You have lied about the originality of your console, you can further protect yourself with more lies. QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 22 2006, 10:48 PM) Im not happy with the irresponssible attitude and your harsh language when replying my PM. If you really wanna make this issue bigger. I don't mind. I've lost alot of time, money, effort in this. If you wanna make it bigger. No problem with me! QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 02:57 AM) which PM do i need to post here? Weird. I see contradictions in this. If you have the PM kindly print screen it up here. Just to hear both sides of the stories. About him refunding? He did not reply the PMs i sent regarding this. So how? I'm here to enlighten you guys in terms of technical part. 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It is a very amusing situation we have here. Looks like the buyer and the seller is fighting over irrelevant issues like being rude and so on. Also thing that have happened cannot be changed and there is no use on fighting over what he/she said last time and so on. From my point of view this is the refund I think this is how much the seller should refund the buyer.
Originally, the console was to be sold at RM450, then the seller reduce price to Rm440 because of the number of pins on the plug. So the buyer paid RM440. Then the buyer noticed that the controller was not working properly and the seller agreed to give the buyer RM50. So now the buyer paid RM390 in total. The buyer made his own decision to buy the RM75 controller and the seller has no responsibility over it. So the buyer should return the whole PS2 set including the spoilt controller and the buyer should refund the seller RM390. The buyer gets to keep the RM75 controller. If the seller did promised to refund any other amount of money for any other reason, he should do so. Besides the seller and the buyer, we will not know was promises were made as there were no black and white agrement. The buyer has all the right to claim a refund as in this thread itself yetieater has mentioned that he agreed to 1 month warranty. Please refer to post #93. I would also like to mention that regardless of who you are and your financial status, you must be responsible once you give a personal warranty. Just because you are a student doesn't mean that you can use excuses like you have no time, you have an exam and you got no money. And once you give personally warranty, please don't come up with excuses like it was working fine when I was using it and so on. You have guaranteed that your item will be working fine for the whole duration of the personal warranty period. I also find yetieater to be dishonest in this matter. In post #64, he says that the warranty in bunk but later in post #93 the story changes to that he agreed to 1 month warranty so that the deal would go through. Another thing is that the seller claim that input voltage is not an issue. This is not true. The input voltage is an issue. You have to refer to the adapter specification. If it is 100V-240V that means that is the acceptable input voltage. It makes no difference whether is console runs on AC or DC. I also find it very ridiculous for the buyer to take the PS2 to a shop when she has been given a month warranty from the buyer, why didn't you just claim from the buyer? |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 12:23 AM) Erm. yeah the term is quite subjective. I'll elaborate further for you. I watched a single disc from 24 with three episodes. Three hours of playback. I only tested to see if Final Destination would work. When I first purchased the console, I was unsure if DVD playback was working properly. I tested with a number of DVDs while in Shanghai and found that while Final Destination worked, my copy of Final Destination 2 wouldn't even open up. Understand now? I didn't watch through 24 episodes of 24 on the console. It's played DVD movies for three hours at most.But judgin from this.... [qoute] I'd like to write a response to post one of this thread as some of the claims made there are not valid. The PS2 does play DVDs. It's common knowledge that not all DVDs will play in the PS2, as any PS2 owner will attest to. I had success watching a box set of 24 and Final Destination, but a number of other DVDs that I had simply would not play back. Bear in mind that I clearly stated this in my original thread. [/qoute] QUOTE(mumeichan) Another thing is that the seller claim that input voltage is not an issue. This is not true. The input voltage is an issue. You have to refer to the adapter specification. If it is 100V-240V that means that is the acceptable input voltage. It makes no difference whether is console runs on AC or DC. My apologies if I was being unclear in the matter. What I meant is that input voltage, as long as it is within the technical specifications of the power adapter, should not be an issue. Sony's products all work with 110V and 240V. The power adapter takes in AC and converts it to DC which the PS2 uses. Chastise has raised concerns about the PS2 being damaged by 240V which should not happen QUOTE(mumeichan) And once you give personally warranty, please don't come up with excuses like it was working fine when I was using it and so on. You have guaranteed that your item will be working fine for the whole duration of the personal warranty period. Mumeichan, I gave the personal warranty only because I knew that the console had no problems. If there were any problems, why would I sell it off as being faultless to begin with? That I chose to accept the one month personal warranty should speak for itself.QUOTE(chastise) He did not reply the PMs i sent regarding this. So how? I chose to respond to your PMs in this thread to keep things open for public scrutiny. In post 83 you wrote down what you sent to me in the PM, which I believe I responded to. You claim that you made phone calls and SMSes that I did not respond to. That claim was entirely inaccurate.I demand RM500 compensation from you for calling me nasty names and hurting my feelings. Hoho. A couple of PMs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yetieater/250995074/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/yetieater/250995076/ The first link is the most recent PM that I have received from chastise. I'm off for lunch now. |
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QUOTE Mumeichan, I gave the personal warranty only because I knew that the console had no problems. If there were any problems, why would I sell it off as being faultless to begin with? That I chose to accept the one month personal warranty should speak for itself Dude.. this is where u really don't understand... Personal warranty = anythign goes wrong during that period.. u are entitled to a refund or repair or whatever.. We can't give personal warranties jez cuz we know it's working.. Then I can give u 100 years personal warranty when i sell smthing and then not refund anything when it spoils cuz I can say it was working well and i knew it was when it left my hands. QUOTE I demand RM500 compensation from you for calling me nasty names and hurting my feelings. Hoho. And what's this? |
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chastise, since ur not backing down and u showed urself as being the alpha among us all, just do whatever u feel right.... from my point of view, everything u stated is based on what u feel, what yetieater made u felt....u felt cheated, u felt that yeti's a con, not a gentlemen.... yet u are arguing over something that's, well, yeti promised u the rm 390 yet u are pushing ur luck on getting even more...well, u just proved urself to be desperate enough to show "balls" around here.... since u r just reading through this thread, listening from someone thats gonna repair the 2nd ps2 u bought from yeti, not sure where ur thinking cap is, i'll have to say, better luck next time in buying things over here... i'm just saying this based on this thread, be con once could lead to another con... yeti, no offence yeah.... if it was me, i'll take my rm 390, kept the rm 75 controller, add in more money to get me a new ps2, 1 year warranty from the shop.... problem, kaw kaw tiao t shop.... |
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Sep 24 2006, 09:46 AM) Buyer, No. 1 : I have an original memory card to compare. So it's obvious that the memory card is fake.No. 1 I would like to know how you compare an original mem card with fake mem card. No.2 Controllers, as u seen in DJinn thread is already like 2 years ago and was not updated since. At this moment the current market has H, A and M at the back and it's REALLY hard to differentiate from the original nowadays. Even DJinn agreed on me in private chats. We have now, Grade B, Grade AAA and Grade 99% which now all suprisingly looks and almost feel the same unless we opened it to check on the board. Like say the back letters does not gives any warranty to that of the original controllers. Plus on my experience, PS2 original controllers have flaws in it. For those who constantly playing Naruto and Winning Eleven, which constantly uses L1,L2,R1,R2 keys are proned of getting stuck. This is based on my experience as a PS2 shop keeper. No.3 It all really depends what PS2 CD you inserted. The seller is using pirated games or ori games to play and what about you. Also would like to know whether YOUR PS2 is the slim version or the fat version. Usually the slim version has a higher chanse of wear and tear of the lense. Cost to change the lense is about RM60-RM200 depending how good is the lense but usually they will still burnout due to overheating. Modchip, likely but hardly...as said, it depends what media (pirated or original) you put in. When you send things to another shop for checking doesn't mean you too had not been lied by the shop keeper. Sorry, this is based on experience and even friends do that too. The only way to check the originality of a console, controller and mem card is by opening it and check on the circuits board. Weird. I see contradictions in this. If you have the PM kindly print screen it up here. Just to hear both sides of the stories. I'm here to enlighten you guys in terms of technical part. However my shop is far from you guy, in Kuala Selangor No. 2 : I agree on this. But his controllers are confirm fake. No. 3 : It's PS2 slim. The shop keeper told me it's the lens. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 24 2006, 03:16 PM |
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Hmm..i noticed there's some editting going on the screenshots.
Where's your cursing part? deleted? and some add on on my replies too. Well... that's not the case now. You haven't replied me on the solution i suggest. If you are not ok with it. Ill get my refund immediately. And Yeti, i have someone sending PMs to me that you are selling your PS2 again! "after i got the PS2 from the previous buyer". Well, I don't think it's a very wise idea to sell it here again when you have a faulty itme there. |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 24 2006, 09:07 AM) yours is the 3rd explanation on the same page. so do you think i understand yet? the most inappropriate part i find is to bring up yetieater in other threads and talking bad stuff about him when he's clearly attempting to settle this matter with you. if you have any dispute, let it remain here. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=344346 This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 24 2006, 03:36 PM |
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196 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Kuching, Sarawak
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 03:13 PM) No. 1 : I have an original memory card to compare. So it's obvious that the memory card is fake. I think what hamster9 trying to ask is YOUR own PS2, not the one you bought from yeti, I personally own a PS2 slim, not all game and all DVD can be played on it. My PS2 slim use a universal adaptor, means 100~240v no problem, you can check the spec on the power adaptor. I think you should just return the PS2 to yeti no need to go check the PS2 or fix it, and yeti don't complicated thing by saying you want rm 500 compensation, not doing anyone any good.No. 2 : I agree on this. But his controllers are confirm fake. No. 3 : It's PS2 slim. The shop keeper told me it's the lens. Edited: Oops, I think I misunderstanding your anwser, if YOUR own PS2 is also the slim version, is the serial no the same or not? different serial number and modchip will have differ readability, that's the shop selling my PS2 slim told me, my point being, no need to fix it if you feel not happy with it just return the PS2 slim.This post has been edited by JdOtL: Sep 24 2006, 04:37 PM |
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Sep 24 2006, 04:34 PM
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1,555 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Under your bed
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Yeah. Im still waiting for his reply.
He's looking for buyer for his console now. I hope he isn't looking for buyer who agrees on buying his console then only he refund me. This post has been edited by chastise: Sep 24 2006, 04:38 PM |
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Sep 24 2006, 06:51 PM
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1,546 posts Joined: Dec 2004
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 04:34 PM) Yeah. Im still waiting for his reply. I've only communicated with one person besides you regarding selling the PS2. I'll look at it for myself after this situation is resolved if it comes down to a refund. If I find no problems, I'll certainly sell it again.He's looking for buyer for his console now. I hope he isn't looking for buyer who agrees on buying his console then only he refund me. QUOTE I demand RM500 compensation from you for calling me nasty names and hurting my feelings. Hoho. I'm saying this to show that chastise isn't the only one who can talk crap. Regarding the thread I created, I only asked if it was legal for me to strike someone down with a baseball bat if they entered my property without my permission. I didn't ask for opinions on this situation. Two more screenshots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yetieater/251186228/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/yetieater/251186231/ I created that thread because I did feel somewhat worried about how you ended off your PM. "I will settle this VERY soon" sounds to me like you're going to take direct action against me. All in all, this ordeal has been a complete waste of time. I don't even know what there is to argue about now. We're just moving off on wild tangents. |
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Sep 24 2006, 06:57 PM
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Senior Member
1,546 posts Joined: Dec 2004
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QUOTE(chastise @ Sep 24 2006, 03:23 PM) Hmm..i noticed there's some editting going on the screenshots. No editing. I just uploaded the screenshot where I started cursing violently at you. Haha.. Where's your cursing part? deleted? and some add on on my replies too.  |
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Sep 24 2006, 08:28 PM
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1,555 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Under your bed
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So how? You haven't answered on how you wanna settle this.
Or you are looking for buyer and only refund me when you have a buyer? |
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Sep 24 2006, 10:47 PM
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1,546 posts Joined: Dec 2004
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You said you wanted to go off and get the PS2 checked. I do intend to sell the PS2 if I find that it is still in proper working order. I've said it time and time again - I'm willing to give you a full refund of the RM390 that you paid me.
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Sep 24 2006, 11:11 PM
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Senior Member
1,555 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Under your bed
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Sep 24 2006, 10:47 PM) You said you wanted to go off and get the PS2 checked. I do intend to sell the PS2 if I find that it is still in proper working order. I've said it time and time again - I'm willing to give you a full refund of the RM390 that you paid me. Okay. Do PM me on how you wanna do it.I hope this is not another false promise that you are gonna refund. Thread close atm. Unless problem arises again. |
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