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 Why AMD Overclockers is always more than Intels?

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TShongchiang
post Sep 22 2006, 03:19 PM, updated 20y ago

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As topis...
i am wondering why there is more AMD overclockers compare to Intel Overclockers?
Do you all have any ideas?
Is the AMD chipset suitable for overclocking? or any other issue?

This post has been edited by hongchiang: Sep 22 2006, 03:32 PM
TShongchiang
post Sep 22 2006, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Sep 22 2006, 03:30 PM)
Intel are too pricy for OC purpose
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AMD meant for less budget users to OC for more performance....
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oh oko..
u mean is too expensive is it..
hmm...
is there any example that without oc, AMD speed/performance is same level with Intel?
I know we cant do direct comparison between the models...but if AMD running core speed 2.0Ghz and Intel too... is that mean that they are performing in the same leve? or AMD Better? Intel Better?
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post Sep 22 2006, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(minghao @ Sep 22 2006, 03:32 PM)
Stupid question,Most AMD processor like athlon64 is design for value minded and who that need next generation feature@ good price.So many of them like to overclock,and AMD FSB is higher that intel,so suitable for overclocking.And intel clockspeed is enough high and no need oc.
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i am a noobs...
just asking only..
because have no idea what is the different... notworthy.gif
TShongchiang
post Sep 22 2006, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 22 2006, 05:09 PM)
stupid answer

1. Athlon64 is not designed for value minded. AMD created Athlon64 to compete with Intel's Pentium4. If you're talking about value, Sempron is in AMD's value segment, to compete with Celeron..

2. AMD K8 architecture does not have FSB.

3. High FSB does not mean that it's favourable for overclocking. Even if an Intel has a high FSB, but the multi is damn locked low... most likely there will be limitation in overclocking. It then depends on how high can the northbridge (memory controller) help push the speed.
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this is good explanation at least for me this noobs rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
so currently the value chipset for oc is still sempron,T-bred/Barton..
actually i am using barton too... learning the oc stuff...
thanks for the explanation anyways! at least i learn something..
btw, i never think AMD is a small scale company that offer chipset for people that cant afford ..
i think the quadcore will be rocks too!
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post Sep 22 2006, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 22 2006, 05:19 PM)
the Semprons were cheap. the A64s weren't cheap, especially the S939 variants.

the thing is we're talking about S64 / A64 only - but prior to that, we have the great T-bred Bs that were highly OCable too. they're cheap (i bought mine for RM 225 or so) and pair it with a nForce2 mobo with OCing features (NF7-S, 8RDA+, A7N8X, DFI LP so on so forth) and wow........ 1466mhz processor running at 2.2ghz++ or more!! biggrin.gif

Intels aren't that bad either, take the P4 2.4C on boards like IS7 / IC7 - they're nice to OC too. just that the P4 parts tend to be more pricey, so people opt for the AMDs.
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i am learning oc now.. with my cute barton 2500+... tongue.gif tongue.gif
but have no good mobo... cry.gif cry.gif
searching for DFI nf2 / Abit NF7...
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post Sep 22 2006, 05:42 PM

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i think i have some idea...
on why people pick AMD over INTEL to overclock
1) AMD chipset allow flexibility in changing the FSB and MULTIPLIER
2) Is costly if we use INTEL to clock...
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post Sep 22 2006, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Sep 22 2006, 03:42 PM)
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u wan me to explain by words?
is better u take a look on this link:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

i have no idea what r u looking for?
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nice link...
thanks.. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
hmm.. i think next year INTEL Quad Core and AMD quadCore will have a interesting VS again... sweat.gif
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post Sep 23 2006, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 22 2006, 05:47 PM)
1. The A64 does not have FSB. Some models are multiplier locked.
2. It depends. The E6300/6400 are great overclockers.
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that mean A64 is not for overclockers...
is a high performance proc is it?
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post Oct 4 2006, 12:48 AM

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wow.. u have a very good explanation and description on their history...
thanks for everyone who post the reply..
i slightly get what is the OC trend now...
So far AMD processors is cater for the ocers, and intel is not..
but since the c2d is coming out with high ocer capabilities, i think they will have a very hardcore VS next year after the AMD new proc come out...

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