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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?

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SKY 1809
post Dec 18 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 11:58 AM)
Waaaa

so many nicorpers here one ah??
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Now u are back to promote stocks........ biggrin.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 12:13 PM)
Yesterday jio quite a number.. biggrin.gif
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Enough to take the company into private hmm.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
specu counters
keep long long normally not by choice....

sometimes kena ikat like crab like that.
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If u kena hit then u run ..that is normal hmm.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Dec 19 2014, 10:50 AM)
Exactly whistling.gif

But i do hope the local big fund support will lose steam cause im lowball-ing some counters whistling.gif

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U are not making the market factors to invest ..I presume ...

U can buy low and sell lower ...no doubt about it ..

Let me know when LG sinks back to 31sen..I want to buy some also yawn.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:00 AM)
i used to work for warrants desk. structured warrants is mainly for goreng hentam / insider news. not worth for the average investor. 99% of the time investor kena burn.
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Ya U are right ...

But it is quite unfair to investors cos there are no Put warrants for individual stocks in Bursa unlike the matured markets..

I wanted to tembak Put Warrants a month back..but could not find them for individual stocks.......

Do not forget Call or Put warrants are issued with big premiums...but Bankers are still Kiasu to issue Put Warrants...

BTW, bankers are allowed to push up and down on call warrants...so ikan bilis are playing against ( or rather paying the bankers ) the bankers......

So what is the chance of beating them the bankers ?

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post Dec 19 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:15 AM)
No chance.. when banks issue the call warrants you are already paying heavy premium. then on of that bank control the buying/selling price. anytime can hentam down the warrant price.
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There is a chance for Put Warrants..... biggrin.gif

Guys..I am not promoting anything here..just for knowledge sharing.....

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post Dec 19 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:21 AM)
haha so far current bursa rules don't allow for short-selling
cant issue single stock put warrants if can't short-sell

even if can issue, the premium is even higher for put warrants
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There used to be 2 Put warrants.on individual stocks ...so why the rules...say cannot issue Put Warrants

Genting also can say some games which are of gambling contents.are banned ?....just mere excuse lah biggrin.gif

Simply Bankers stand a chance of losing on PUT even with a big premium ..right ?

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post Dec 19 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 19 2014, 11:27 AM)
Sky gor hooted any nicorp?
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I go for Cash rich companies at current moment..... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:45 AM)
no one say cannot issue put warrants. just that cannot short sell..
yes banks can still lose on issuing puts even with big premium
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BTW , One ex banker just compensated investors for manipulating a call warrant just before its expiry ..

It is done through SC/Bursa ....some cash refunds..after investigations done

In a way, manipulation is proved ...not just a mere conspiracy theory as always claimed.....

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:55 AM)
yea thats why the warrants desk must show consistency in maintaining the price.. if not kena screwed.. the early days was quite cowboy
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Thanks for all yours valuable sharing notworthy.gif
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It is good once upon a time to share some inner feeling or inside stories ...

It is valuable so u do not make the same mistakes again and again..

But later u ask the same Q again and again...no one might answer u

The price u need to pay lah......through your own mistakes.... yawn.gif

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post Dec 19 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 19 2014, 12:36 PM)
Since now SC so active catching... they dhud go n dig out the case where DRB osk issued call warrant prior to expiry n limit down..

need to reprimand the culprit
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That was the one I talked about........ .compensations .u hit the bull eye...... biggrin.gif

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post Dec 19 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 19 2014, 01:15 PM)
Ooooo.. tat case finally admit ad aa ??

Tat time was so obvious.. and they dare to come out n say is a mistake.. wtf really !

It is so.blantant obvious tat osk is behind tat pile of shitty move.
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post Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(kancs3118 @ Dec 19 2014, 02:48 PM)
Hi Sky Gor, nice to see you here...in your humble opinion, what do you think about SymLife? It has been dropping all the way until RM0.80..
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Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... biggrin.gif

Anyway , PBB has only 2 sectors they favour currently i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral....

Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak

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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 19 2014, 03:25 PM)
reading EPS and PE by itself yield not much meaning to the growth potential of the company.

one has to compare historical EPS and ROE/PE itself to be able to derive meaningful numbers.

just imho.
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I say all are not important either biggrin.gif

Importantly find your own secret recipe of making money in stock market..and u multiple your success.story ..... yawn.gif

What is ROE if u are very Good at Futures.......... biggrin.gif

By knowing..ROE .......U know Oil Price trend kah especially u mentioned Historic data are imp hmm.gif

U may do away with oil in Future..I doubt u can do away with housing.....for a young country like us...

Do not forget to compare our housing with Asian countries too..

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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Dec 19 2014, 04:54 PM)
Last minute b4 closing pinch some Sym into vault..  thumbup.gif
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Keep your fingers cross for this news :-

The dual-track railway, part of a 1,400 kilometre (870 mile) vision of linking China's southwestern hub city of Kunming with Asia's second busiest port of Singapore, is the centrepiece of Li's one-night visit, a Thai government spokesman told AFP.

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articl..._campaign=cppst
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post Dec 20 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:23 PM)
Value investing. Understand the historic volatility of share price and make own prediction quantitatively. Decide market timing to buy with patient. All share is unique with different business nature. Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price.

Ask simple question, if u aim for 5% profit within T+3, who will buy your shares within 3 days to give you profit?
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U use the big word of Value Investing..but explaining more in TA manner..... biggrin.gif

If a company profit is ever increasing ,,then no need to buy at low price.....and FA should be used for the identification of earning vs price u pay for..

Low price u buy but Co could be heading towards a loss making year maybe like some O & G.stocks ..therefore not cheap at all..

On the other hand ..higher price u pay for ...cos u think the co profit could be double ..or 50% more in future..therefore making it relatively cheap in the future..

It comes down to your own judgments......i.e the ability to judge ..

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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:49 PM)
Value investing is an investment strategy to buy the share, which the value of a company (asset etc) are undervalued in the current share price. It is good to study the annual report of company, news and friends in the company. It is easier to evaluate a company in your industry and closely related industry. Risk is lower due to your understanding of their business nature.

Share is unique and investor is also unique. Not all shares are suitable for all investors.
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So u see U contradict yourself with the opening statement of Low Price....earlier hmm.gif

" Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price"

" 1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy."

An undervalued stock does not mean it is LOW Price.....it is the " Worth" of the money u pay for.....

A Simple example is u pay rm one for the share..then your analysis shows the stock is worth rm 5..per share ...so in simple term it is undervalued..

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post Dec 22 2014, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 22 2014, 03:50 PM)
As a follow up, till now no weakness in the market spotted yet, so continue to hold on for more profits.
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ROE is the same regardless which market price u buy biggrin.gif

ROE would not tell u the " cheapness" of a stock by referring to the market price ......... hmm.gif

So nothing to shout about........... yawn.gif

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post Dec 22 2014, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 22 2014, 04:40 PM)
so that's how you attain 22k postings but replying out of context?

(no further reply)
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Then u ask me Q of ROE for what biggrin.gif

Next time U do not simply open your mouth and shoot me the Q ..

I should ignore u too ......for good

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