QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 11:58 AM)
Now u are back to promote stocks........ STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?
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Dec 18 2014, 12:20 PM
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Dec 18 2014, 02:54 PM
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Dec 19 2014, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Dec 19 2014, 10:50 AM) U are not making the market factors to invest ..I presume ...U can buy low and sell lower ...no doubt about it .. Let me know when LG sinks back to 31sen..I want to buy some also |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:00 AM) i used to work for warrants desk. structured warrants is mainly for goreng hentam / insider news. not worth for the average investor. 99% of the time investor kena burn. Ya U are right ...But it is quite unfair to investors cos there are no Put warrants for individual stocks in Bursa unlike the matured markets.. I wanted to tembak Put Warrants a month back..but could not find them for individual stocks....... Do not forget Call or Put warrants are issued with big premiums...but Bankers are still Kiasu to issue Put Warrants... BTW, bankers are allowed to push up and down on call warrants...so ikan bilis are playing against ( or rather paying the bankers ) the bankers...... So what is the chance of beating them the bankers ? This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:16 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:15 AM) No chance.. when banks issue the call warrants you are already paying heavy premium. then on of that bank control the buying/selling price. anytime can hentam down the warrant price. There is a chance for Put Warrants..... Guys..I am not promoting anything here..just for knowledge sharing..... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:21 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:21 AM) haha so far current bursa rules don't allow for short-selling There used to be 2 Put warrants.on individual stocks ...so why the rules...say cannot issue Put Warrantscant issue single stock put warrants if can't short-sell even if can issue, the premium is even higher for put warrants Genting also can say some games which are of gambling contents.are banned ?....just mere excuse lah Simply Bankers stand a chance of losing on PUT even with a big premium ..right ? This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:28 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:29 AM
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Dec 19 2014, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:45 AM) no one say cannot issue put warrants. just that cannot short sell.. BTW , One ex banker just compensated investors for manipulating a call warrant just before its expiry ..yes banks can still lose on issuing puts even with big premium It is done through SC/Bursa ....some cash refunds..after investigations done In a way, manipulation is proved ...not just a mere conspiracy theory as always claimed..... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:51 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:58 AM
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Dec 19 2014, 12:29 PM
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It is good once upon a time to share some inner feeling or inside stories ...
It is valuable so u do not make the same mistakes again and again.. But later u ask the same Q again and again...no one might answer u The price u need to pay lah......through your own mistakes.... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 12:31 PM |
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 19 2014, 12:36 PM) Since now SC so active catching... they dhud go n dig out the case where DRB osk issued call warrant prior to expiry n limit down.. That was the one I talked about........ .compensations .u hit the bull eye...... need to reprimand the culprit This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 12:42 PM |
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Dec 19 2014, 01:17 PM
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Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(kancs3118 @ Dec 19 2014, 02:48 PM) Hi Sky Gor, nice to see you here...in your humble opinion, what do you think about SymLife? It has been dropping all the way until RM0.80.. Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... Anyway , PBB has only 2 sectors they favour currently i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral.... Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 03:06 PM |
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Dec 19 2014, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 19 2014, 03:25 PM) reading EPS and PE by itself yield not much meaning to the growth potential of the company. I say all are not important either one has to compare historical EPS and ROE/PE itself to be able to derive meaningful numbers. just imho. Importantly find your own secret recipe of making money in stock market..and u multiple your success.story ..... What is ROE if u are very Good at Futures.......... By knowing..ROE .......U know Oil Price trend kah especially u mentioned Historic data are imp U may do away with oil in Future..I doubt u can do away with housing.....for a young country like us... Do not forget to compare our housing with Asian countries too.. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 03:42 PM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Dec 19 2014, 04:54 PM) Keep your fingers cross for this news :-The dual-track railway, part of a 1,400 kilometre (870 mile) vision of linking China's southwestern hub city of Kunming with Asia's second busiest port of Singapore, is the centrepiece of Li's one-night visit, a Thai government spokesman told AFP. Read more at: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articl..._campaign=cppst |
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Dec 20 2014, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:23 PM) Value investing. Understand the historic volatility of share price and make own prediction quantitatively. Decide market timing to buy with patient. All share is unique with different business nature. Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price. U use the big word of Value Investing..but explaining more in TA manner..... Ask simple question, if u aim for 5% profit within T+3, who will buy your shares within 3 days to give you profit? If a company profit is ever increasing ,,then no need to buy at low price.....and FA should be used for the identification of earning vs price u pay for.. Low price u buy but Co could be heading towards a loss making year maybe like some O & G.stocks ..therefore not cheap at all.. On the other hand ..higher price u pay for ...cos u think the co profit could be double ..or 50% more in future..therefore making it relatively cheap in the future.. It comes down to your own judgments......i.e the ability to judge .. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 20 2014, 10:48 PM |
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Dec 20 2014, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:49 PM) Value investing is an investment strategy to buy the share, which the value of a company (asset etc) are undervalued in the current share price. It is good to study the annual report of company, news and friends in the company. It is easier to evaluate a company in your industry and closely related industry. Risk is lower due to your understanding of their business nature. So u see U contradict yourself with the opening statement of Low Price....earlier Share is unique and investor is also unique. Not all shares are suitable for all investors. " Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price" " 1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy." An undervalued stock does not mean it is LOW Price.....it is the " Worth" of the money u pay for..... A Simple example is u pay rm one for the share..then your analysis shows the stock is worth rm 5..per share ...so in simple term it is undervalued.. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 20 2014, 11:10 PM |
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 22 2014, 03:50 PM) As a follow up, till now no weakness in the market spotted yet, so continue to hold on for more profits. ROE is the same regardless which market price u buy ROE would not tell u the " cheapness" of a stock by referring to the market price ......... So nothing to shout about........... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 22 2014, 04:37 PM |
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 22 2014, 04:40 PM) Then u ask me Q of ROE for what Next time U do not simply open your mouth and shoot me the Q .. I should ignore u too ......for good This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 22 2014, 04:50 PM |
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