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STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?
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New thread for the upcoming new year
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Dow Jones 17,280.83 -315.51 (-1.79%) S&P 500 2,002.33 -33.00 (-1.62%) Nasdaq 4,653.60 -54.56 (-1.16%) oil $57.81 |
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Check in.
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another day of ang ang
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fall ....... see see first ...
Whats the biggest fall per day since 2008 ? This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Dec 15 2014, 09:09 AM |
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sh!t everything red today
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1700 broken so fast
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damn..1699 now..
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WTI---56.59
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 15 2014, 09:14 AM) -33 Morning prophetjul when i see you active...meanz..u buy i also want to buy... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by felixmask: Dec 15 2014, 09:18 AM |
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Selling is everywhere...
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 15 2014, 09:17 AM) Morning prophetjul i NO buy.............too early..........oil is still slipperywhen i see you active...meanz..u buy i also want to buy... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « DJ is still puffy |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 15 2014, 09:19 AM) i NO buy.............too early..........oil is still slippery DJ is still puffy  then i keep mine 1arrow...learn a great patience sifu... thanks very much  prophetjul |
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 15 2014, 09:20 AM) then i keep mine 1arrow...learn a great patience sifu... thanks very much prophetjul  |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 15 2014, 09:21 AM) But depends you are value buyer OR wanting to skin a Bear trap............ im limited bullet...dont want fire mine arrow too soon.I waiting mine PetDag reach RM12...or Bumi below 0.80sen .  cross hand...when SkPetro also below 2.00..but they hv high gearing 1.17 ..scare indebtness and long term Oil price drop can jeoparise their Oil extraction. |
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1700 KLCI
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KLCI support broken?
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EPF will come in to prop up.............
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Dec 15 2014, 09:31 AM
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OOPppssss
EPF is SELLing BUMI by the MILLIONS!  This post has been edited by prophetjul: Dec 15 2014, 09:32 AM |
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L&G also lau sai
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an article to share when Malaysia went through 2008 bear market
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...l?articleNo=112 |
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sign of economic boom? hehe... just kidding.
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More like economic kaboom.
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boom up or down?
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what do you guys reckon the timing to go in?
some small cash ready to pump in. |
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technically.. looks today is good. tomorrow might rebound
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 15 2014, 09:31 AM) OOPppssss Already a trend for the last couple of weeks. EPF is SELLing BUMI by the MILLIONS! A couple of millions is nothing for a penny stock. The stock has > 5 billion shares. Volume has died down a bit signalling a more stablise movement for in stock price. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 15 2014, 10:45 AM) Already a trend for the last couple of weeks. EPF has 500mil BUMi shares.......... A couple of millions is nothing for a penny stock. The stock has > 5 billion shares. Volume has died down a bit signalling a more stablise movement for in stock price. Calculate the paper losses............their cost will be around Rm3.2 |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 15 2014, 10:46 AM) EPF has 500mil BUMi shares.......... I don't think anyone cost on Bumi is RM3.2. Calculate the paper losses............their cost will be around Rm3.2 Bumi underwent a bonus issue + right issue at Rm1.35 just no long ago. So even one bought at Rm4 (its peak) prior before the bonus and right issue, adjusted is about RM2.30 only. |
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 10:30 AM) technically.. looks today is good. tomorrow might rebound As in index still above 1700? |
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Dec 15 2014, 10:50 AM) As in index still above 1700? Technical rebounding range? |
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Psychological support of 1700 ma
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 15 2014, 10:49 AM) I don't think anyone cost on Bumi is RM3.2. (2xRm4 + 1.35)/ 4 = RM2.33 right Bumi underwent a bonus issue + right issue at Rm1.35 just no long ago. So even one bought at Rm4 (its peak) prior before the bonus and right issue, adjusted is about RM2.30 only. This post has been edited by prophetjul: Dec 15 2014, 11:00 AM |
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 10:53 AM) Psychological support of 1700 ma bone are you still holding your nicorp? :/ whats your point of view on this counter? |
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 15 2014, 10:55 AM) bone are you still holding your nicorp? :/ whats your point of view on this counter? Hold sama dato siaw |
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 10:53 AM) Technical rebounding range? Oh alright. Thought you got any other technical views  |
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reporting in for O&G tips. hot topic yo
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 15 2014, 10:55 AM) (2xRm4 + 1.35)/ 3 = RM3.117 Should be(2xRm4 + 1.35) / 4 (bonus issue given for free) = Rm2.33 So if bought at IPO which is about RM3. Cost = (2 x Rm3) + 1.35 / 4 = RM1.83. This post has been edited by cherroy: Dec 15 2014, 11:03 AM |
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will a war erupt because of ISIS advancing?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 11:06 AM) will a war erupt because of ISIS advancing? Later you diISAkan... or will a oil pipe blow up in arab country? |
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Dec 15 2014, 11:29 AM) Check-in. Christmas ma.. Reds n reds everywhere  |
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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Dec 15 2014, 11:32 AM) Christmas ma.. Christmas supposed to have green mah. No green. |
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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Dec 15 2014, 11:32 AM) Christmas ma.. Red for cny la  |
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http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/products-services/gst
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/system/a...97/FAQs_GST.pdf from my understanding it's 6% Clearing Fees 6% Trading Fees (Commission?) sigh..... 2014 gains all wiped clean.... This post has been edited by mopster: Dec 15 2014, 01:41 PM |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Dec 15 2014, 01:39 PM) http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/products-services/gst same same....might as well not trade at all >.<http://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/system/a...97/FAQs_GST.pdf from my understanding it's 6% Clearing Fees 6% Trading Fees (Commission?) sigh..... 2014 gains all wiped clean.... |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Dec 15 2014, 01:39 PM) http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/products-services/gst 6% on the fees you paid, not the total transaction cost.http://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/system/a...97/FAQs_GST.pdf from my understanding it's 6% Clearing Fees 6% Trading Fees (Commission?) sigh..... 2014 gains all wiped clean.... typical brokerage 0.42% or less, clearing fees is 0.03%. Lets take clearing fees as example. New fees include GST is (0.03 + 0.03*0.06) % = 0.0318% You buy share worth RM100,000 in one transaction, paid clearing fees RM30 currently. With GST, you need to pay RM31.80. Small diff only |
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Dec 15 2014, 01:51 PM) 6% on the fees you paid, not the total transaction cost. How about if I purchase online via trading platform? Like maybanktypical brokerage 0.42% or less, clearing fees is 0.03%. Lets take clearing fees as example. New fees include GST is (0.03 + 0.03*0.06) % = 0.0318% You buy share worth RM100,000 in one transaction, paid clearing fees RM30 currently. With GST, you need to pay RM31.80. Small diff only |
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ic.... thanks for the clarification...
so it's additional 6% of clearing fees AND 6% of commission... ------- another interesting news.. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...insider-trading |
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what about stamp duty? any affect after gst?
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 15 2014, 02:23 PM) what about stamp duty? any affect after gst? Stamp Duty is a kind of tax already... if they tax the stamp duty.. then really |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 15 2014, 02:23 PM) what about stamp duty? any affect after gst? stamp duty should not have GST impact. Stamp duty is already a kind of tax which is an income to the government. taxing stamp duty is like taxing a tax |
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Dec 15 2014, 02:27 PM) stamp duty should not have GST impact. Stamp duty is already a kind of tax which is an income to the government. taxing stamp duty is like taxing a tax Tax-ception |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 15 2014, 02:23 PM) what about stamp duty? any affect after gst? No, stamp duty is tax, normal principal is, there is no tax on tax one, so should not subjected to GST. |
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QUOTE(Razer.Ken @ Dec 15 2014, 02:00 PM) How about if I purchase online via trading platform? Like maybank Same lah, also have to pay GST. |
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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 15 2014, 11:21 AM) Later you diISAkan... Long time no see u talk.. markrt so red u appear.. hmm. come out to sapu stock ah? |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Dec 15 2014, 01:39 PM) http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/products-services/gst 6% on commission to broker.http://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/system/a...97/FAQs_GST.pdf from my understanding it's 6% Clearing Fees 6% Trading Fees (Commission?) sigh..... 2014 gains all wiped clean.... Eg. last time trade commission is Rm12, with GST, it become Rm12.72. |
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Will KLSE go below 1700 today? What's your view?
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more red.. lets zoom 1650!
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 15 2014, 03:23 PM) more red.. lets zoom 1650! This whole week red perhaps, nobody know what will happen... |
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1700 is a strong support .. check again tomorrow ....
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 03:04 PM) Long time no see u talk.. markrt so red u appear.. Now still waiting, maybe we are fronting a real crash now, what was stuck was stuck, have to bring in new troops to rescue if the time come...hmm. come out to sapu stock ah? |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 15 2014, 03:26 PM) 1700 is a strong support .. check again tomorrow .... Really?ok, thanks for yr clarification |
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 06:26 PM) This whole week red perhaps, nobody know what will happen... no body know..but next year earning etc is not going to be good.QUOTE(htt @ Dec 15 2014, 06:26 PM) Now still waiting, maybe we are fronting a real crash now, what was stuck was stuck, have to bring in new troops to rescue if the time come...  let real crash happen.. |
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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 15 2014, 03:26 PM) Now still waiting, maybe we are fronting a real crash now, what was stuck was stuck, have to bring in new troops to rescue if the time come... Ya, no one know when will be the real crash, still waiting for it to drop harder...  |
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Wah.. all waiting it to drop hard and harder... All in cash position already ah?
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The last crash was 500pts, so as long as it never touches that, we shall not call current situation as market crash, it is just technical adjustment.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 03:32 PM) Wah.. all waiting it to drop hard and harder... All in cash position already ah? Yes, cash on stand by to support Maybank when it reaches rm2.75. |
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 15 2014, 03:33 PM) Yes, cash on stand by to support Maybank when it reaches rm2.75. Man man deng |
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 06:31 PM) Ya, no one know when will be the real crash, still waiting for it to drop harder... better cash now.QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 06:32 PM) Wah.. all waiting it to drop hard and harder... All in cash position already ah? better offload before crash right.christmas in 2008 again QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 15 2014, 06:33 PM) Yes, cash on stand by to support Maybank when it reaches rm2.75. wow. maybank that low?  |
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 03:32 PM) Wah.. all waiting it to drop hard and harder... All in cash position already ah? 80% cash for my friends and me, still waiting... |
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 03:27 PM) Really? haha dont take my word seriously. i dont have crystal ball to see the future ....ok, thanks for yr clarification |
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I guess those commented here are ready with cash, waiting to buy. I have some friends who lost more than 100k...No more average down or talk about shares.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 15 2014, 03:32 PM) The last crash was 500pts, so as long as it never touches that, we shall not call current situation as market crash, it is just technical adjustment. When will this technical adjustment stops? |
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anthing can happen..
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Dec 15 2014, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 15 2014, 03:37 PM) haha dont take my word seriously. i dont have crystal ball to see the future .... haha, maybe someday free i will go 2 midvalley to see the crystal ball... those crystal shop got, dont know can see the future or not, haha... |
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1699...again
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heart steady or not doesn't matter.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 03:47 PM) heart steady or not doesn't matter. so what's your decision now? strategy? decision must be correct is most important  |
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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Dec 15 2014, 03:37 PM) I guess those commented here are ready with cash, waiting to buy. I have some friends who lost more than 100k...No more average down or talk about shares. Everyone got up or down in life, it's normal...My friends and I also faced some difficulties and suffering a lot in the past, it's already past long long time ago... Need not worry too much, life is still long ahead, just learn n gain experience... no pain no gain, as time goes by, we will become stronger n stronger, making us better investors, not speculators... |
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 03:52 PM) Everyone got up or down in life, it's normal... mesti mau ajar maaa.. My friends and I also faced some difficulties and suffering a lot in the past, it's already past long long time ago... Need not worry too much, life is still long ahead, just learn n gain experience... no pain no gain, as time goes by, we will become stronger n stronger, making us better investors, not speculators... Sharing is caring! |
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 03:52 PM) Everyone got up or down in life, it's normal... what doesnt kill u, make u stronger... My friends and I also faced some difficulties and suffering a lot in the past, it's already past long long time ago... Need not worry too much, life is still long ahead, just learn n gain experience... no pain no gain, as time goes by, we will become stronger n stronger, making us better investors, not speculators...  |
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Since KLCI already under 1700, I wonder should i lock the profit now?
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 15 2014, 03:53 PM) mesti mau ajar maaa.. 1st rule, dont ever borrow money fr loan shark 2 speculate in bursa, will die fast... Sharing is caring!  |
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 03:56 PM) 1st rule, dont ever borrow money fr loan shark 2 speculate in bursa, will die fast...  wao.. you did that before?Dangerousss |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 15 2014, 03:50 PM) so what's your decision now? strategy? No position, go sleep and dun see.. Daredevil can take position anticipating a rebound. Other than that, enjoy ur popcorn show |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 15 2014, 03:58 PM) wao.. you did that before?Dangerousss |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 04:01 PM) No position, go sleep and dun see.. thanks Daredevil can take position anticipating a rebound. Other than that, enjoy ur popcorn show |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:06 PM
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stocks below rsi < 20 is up for grab, likely to bounce by this week.
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Dec 15 2014, 04:09 PM
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just picked up some more AWC.
am i considered a daredevil now ?  |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:11 PM
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Take rotto gun and shoot today, tomorrow maybe can celebrate.
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Dec 15 2014, 04:13 PM
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agreed.. there will be bounce tomorow
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Dec 15 2014, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 04:11 PM) Take rotto gun and shoot today, tomorrow maybe can celebrate. After tomorrow le... how...  or  |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Madbull @ Dec 15 2014, 03:53 PM) what doesnt kill u, make u stronger... ya agree, pls value life...as long as one is alive, lost money, not a big deal; lost live, no more chance... from time to time, see newspaper got ppl commit suiside bcoz of financial difficulties, not worth it... think about our families 1st... |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 15 2014, 03:33 PM) Yes, cash on stand by to support Maybank when it reaches rm2.75. You probably can keep the cash then... |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:15 PM
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buying stock now is like taking a roller coaster ride in front of computer
can feel your heart beat very fast. |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(valan @ Dec 15 2014, 04:09 PM) just picked up some more AWC. logical. buy low, sell high.am i considered a daredevil now ? |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(valan @ Dec 15 2014, 04:15 PM) buying stock now is like taking a roller coaster ride in front of computer agree...can feel your heart beat very fast. heart must be strong, if not scare got heart attack, haha... |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:20 PM
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-36 just now, already below 1700...
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Dec 15 2014, 04:26 PM
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buying stock is slow roller coaster
u go genting lagi shiok |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 04:20 PM) -36 just now, already below 1700...  |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 15 2014, 04:26 PM) buying stock is slow roller coaster haha, long time dint go genting... u go genting lagi shiok must be a lot of changes after the renovation, right? |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:32 PM
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suddenly I see so many active user in Stock Exchange sub-forum when KLCI down
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Dec 15 2014, 04:33 PM
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lowyat forummers all very happy when market down one hehehe
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Dec 15 2014, 04:35 PM
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normally active user around below 100, now already 130 yo
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Dec 15 2014, 04:35 PM
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Hahahaha
ppl get more excited when market down. |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 15 2014, 04:27 PM) Earth still revolves around the sun, we still have 2 eat n work, life goes on, haha... |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:39 PM
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Oil and gas, banking an my credit financing co. Aeon credit service kena beat down hard....
Bumi armada gonna be a penny stock soon hehe... Maybank now down to 8.5x? Kecian lelz... |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Dec 15 2014, 04:33 PM) lowyat forummers all very happy when market down one hehehe human nature perhaps... |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:42 PM
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691 posts Joined: Nov 2009 From: Klang | Sibu
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Pls becareful when catching falling knives
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Dec 15 2014, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 04:30 PM) haha, long time dint go genting... last week i went.. still renovating must be a lot of changes after the renovation, right? quite annoying.. noisy |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Dec 15 2014, 04:42 PM) Pls becareful when catching falling knives ya, must wear gloves/ sarung tangan yang tebal if want to catch, or wait for the knives to reach the ground 1st... |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 15 2014, 04:43 PM) last week i went.. still renovating if that case, then quite noisy n annoying la... quite annoying.. noisy any idea when will the renovation be completed? |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:54 PM
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supposedly should be open again in 2015 spetember or so
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Dec 15 2014, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Dec 15 2014, 04:54 PM) supposedly should be open again in 2015 spetember or so thanks for the info...haha, can't wait 2 go there once open, hopefully no more delay... |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:01 PM
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symlife drop until mama also cannot recognize.. paper loss 29%
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Dec 15 2014, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(Galaxy_Nexus @ Dec 15 2014, 05:01 PM) symlife drop until mama also cannot recognize.. paper loss 29%  what's ur buy in price? |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 15 2014, 05:03 PM) what's ur buy in price? |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:06 PM
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All the shark shorting market ke?
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Dec 15 2014, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 04:46 PM) ya, must wear gloves/ sarung tangan yang tebal if want to catch, or wait for the knives to reach the ground 1st... Knowing when the knives reach the ground is another matter a multi million question |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(Galaxy_Nexus @ Dec 15 2014, 05:05 PM) 1.09.. top up laaa.. |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:23 PM
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whoah my unrealised losses widened to 40k @___@
oh man these are such itneresting times. |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Dec 15 2014, 05:06 PM) Knowing when the knives reach the ground is another matter haha, totally agree a multi million question depends which counter one is targeting, knows the counter real value, EPS, PE (fundamental), study the past history n performance (low, high, SMA, MACD, RSI, etc), history price moves trends, chart patterns such as descending triangle, falling wedge, etc.... can't get the lowest but possible in the comfort n safety range with all the hard works done... |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(Galaxy_Nexus @ Dec 15 2014, 05:01 PM) symlife drop until mama also cannot recognize.. paper loss 29% all holder know that without you "announcing" it.most of counter also heading same trend, nothing to shout about. i will felt the pinch if i recommending you to buy any south-ing counter. there will be no next round of sifus recommendation if everyone doing the "announcing" when it start heading south. sometimes, "person who say it, got no such intention, but ppl who listen to it, felt the point", if u know what i'm saying..  |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 15 2014, 05:23 PM) whoah my unrealised losses widened to 40k @___@ paper loss widened to 40k, as long as the counters u bought r fundamentally strong, got proper research n analysis done b4 buy, then no big deal. No need to worry too much... oh man these are such itneresting times. however, pls stay away fr those heavily goreng or overpriced counters, be careful of those landmines, dont disturb them... |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:42 PM
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will top up when it reaches 1650. will it happens within this week?
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Dec 15 2014, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(alvinlcf @ Dec 15 2014, 05:34 PM) all holder know that without you "announcing" it. Always buy at your OWN risk. most of counter also heading same trend, nothing to shout about. i will felt the pinch if i recommending you to buy any south-ing counter. there will be no next round of sifus recommendation if everyone doing the "announcing" when it start heading south. sometimes, "person who say it, got no such intention, but ppl who listen to it, felt the point", if u know what i'm saying.. |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 03:33 PM) Man man deng Well, never reach, never buy QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 15 2014, 03:36 PM) better cash now. Yup, that was the lowest, in the history. As long as it never strike new low, then don't ever say is low.better offload before crash right. christmas in 2008 again wow. maybank that low? QUOTE(borderline @ Dec 15 2014, 03:38 PM) When will this technical adjustment stops? Ask the speculators. |
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Dec 15 2014, 05:53 PM
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weird thing is, oil is up but index is completely ignoring this. something is up
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Dec 15 2014, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Dec 15 2014, 05:53 PM) weird thing is, oil is up but index is completely ignoring this. something is up Oil up is not significant la bro.If u say up to 65 or 70 a barrel again.. Ok, that is significant. If linger around 55 to 59.. nothing special |
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Dec 15 2014, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(Galaxy_Nexus @ Dec 15 2014, 05:05 PM) 1.09.. My buy in price is at RM1.16...  What is your buy in volume? |
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Dec 15 2014, 06:03 PM
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GOB at RM0.50 - that is the rights price. Never say never.
Times like this, can throw the text book out of the window. How can you apply for rights at RM0.50? And then, the mother price is priced at RM0.50 ? Interesting times....This post has been edited by kancs3118: Dec 15 2014, 06:05 PM |
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Dec 15 2014, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(kancs3118 @ Dec 15 2014, 06:03 PM) GOB at RM0.50 - that is the rights price. Never say never. Insas at 79C and rights at RM1. How leh? LOL... Times like this, can throw the text book out of the window. How can you apply for rights at RM0.50 and then, the mother price is priced at RM0.50 ? Interesting times....Buy more popcorn and watch the show lor... only 20lots @ 1.21 |
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Dec 15 2014, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 05:54 PM) Oil up is not significant la bro. slow slow ma bro. if straight shoot up, sure straight come down also. slow slow up is always better want. haha.If u say up to 65 or 70 a barrel again.. Ok, that is significant. If linger around 55 to 59.. nothing special with hope that oil can maintain above $60. but having said that, "hope" is an expensive word |
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Dec 15 2014, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Dec 15 2014, 06:13 PM) slow slow ma bro. if straight shoot up, sure straight come down also. slow slow up is always better want. haha. Cannot slow one. slow means cannot already..with hope that oil can maintain above $60. but having said that, "hope" is an expensive word Ur lil kawan in the middle, got slow slow up one meh? |
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Dec 15 2014, 06:29 PM
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Out of country, mkt lausai today fuuuuhhhhhh
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Dec 15 2014, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 15 2014, 06:06 PM) Insas at 79C and rights at RM1. How leh? LOL... Hi Andrekua2, ohhh - you bought GOB - 20 lots @ RM1.21?Buy more popcorn and watch the show lor... only 20lots @ 1.21 |
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Dec 15 2014, 07:49 PM
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parking on red sea
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Dec 15 2014, 09:55 PM
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check in, tomorrow put low low see can catch any fish or not......
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Dec 15 2014, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(kancs3118 @ Dec 15 2014, 06:51 PM) Hi Andrekua2, ohhh - you bought GOB - 20 lots @ RM1.21? Insas... not GOB...I would not hold property stocks now. Never knowing whats gonna happen. |
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Dec 15 2014, 11:12 PM
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huhu. oil price did another fakey. tomorrow probably another blood bath. 1600 coming soon
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Dec 15 2014, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2014, 05:54 PM) Oil up is not significant la bro. Sometimes its easier to go down than up especially commodities.If u say up to 65 or 70 a barrel again.. Ok, that is significant. If linger around 55 to 59.. nothing special |
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Dec 15 2014, 11:21 PM
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I am making a prediction:
Property counters will rebound tomorrow. |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 15 2014, 06:06 PM) Insas at 79C and rights at RM1. How leh? LOL... 1 rights come with 2 free warrant isn't it? Buy more popcorn and watch the show lor... only 20lots @ 1.21 |
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Dec 16 2014, 08:40 AM
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Dec 16 2014, 08:57 AM
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Nikki down 1.78%.................
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Dec 16 2014, 09:05 AM
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USD 55.81 per barrel today. Any moves?
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Dec 16 2014, 09:56 AM
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Nicorp 9c can go lower?
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Dec 16 2014, 10:02 AM
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waht happen to maybank???
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Dec 16 2014, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Matt4wd @ Dec 16 2014, 10:02 AM) waht happen to maybank??? Panic sell?Im very happy to see it drops |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Dec 16 2014, 10:04 AM) Panic sell? Maybank drop meh....I also wanna go see Im very happy to see it drops |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:13 AM
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no more robin hood a.k.a epf rescue ???
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Dec 16 2014, 10:16 AM
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aiya drop sikit sikit aje la.....back to sleep
wake me up when maybank reached RM 6 |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(Matt4wd @ Dec 16 2014, 10:02 AM) waht happen to maybank??? Nothing happen, compare to history low, now is still very high. Still got rm6 more before can declare as crisis. More on speculators want to hold more currently, they are holding the shares in terms of %, sell 1 or 2 lots at cheap price, people stupidly follow So, as per what financial planner or economy bullshitters bullshitting about : continue to sell |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Dec 16 2014, 10:11 AM) Maybank drop meh....I also wanna go see Drop abit everyday soon reach ipo price |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 10:25 AM) Nothing happen, compare to history low, now is still very high. Still got rm6 more before can declare as crisis. More on speculators want to hold more currently, they are holding the shares in terms of %, sell 1 or 2 lots at cheap price, people stupidly follow thanks for explained. i was itchy hand wanted to buy some mbb cw... suddenly drop so much... So, as per what financial planner or economy bullshitters bullshitting about : continue to sell |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Matt4wd @ Dec 16 2014, 10:30 AM) thanks for explained. i was itchy hand wanted to buy some mbb cw... suddenly drop so much... Nope, don't touch anything, with OPEC's secretary general gave assurance that they will only held another meeting when oil price reaches $40, just take a vacation for the time being. |
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Dec 16 2014, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 10:32 AM) Nope, don't touch anything, with OPEC's secretary general gave assurance that they will only held another meeting when oil price reaches $40, just take a vacation for the time being. Agree with you. |
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Dec 16 2014, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 10:32 AM) Nope, don't touch anything, with OPEC's secretary general gave assurance that they will only held another meeting when oil price reaches $40, just take a vacation for the time being. cool tips. |
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Dec 16 2014, 12:04 PM
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Marco nobody want? So cheap....
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Dec 16 2014, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Dec 16 2014, 12:04 PM) Marco nobody want? So cheap.... now everyone what also dun wan lo...all wait n see |
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Dec 16 2014, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 10:32 AM) Nope, don't touch anything, with OPEC's secretary general gave assurance that they will only held another meeting when oil price reaches $40, just take a vacation for the time being. Opec next meeting in june? ketchup sauce |
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Dec 16 2014, 12:30 PM
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Keep dropping.. I want to invest more soon!! any predictions on the index positions?
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Dec 16 2014, 12:32 PM
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http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-1...bfba0e9c442e57a
i like this sentence. lol Is there a mistake a lot of investors make?Yeah, they invest. This post has been edited by Carls_Nemesis: Dec 16 2014, 12:35 PM |
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Dec 16 2014, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Dec 16 2014, 12:30 PM) Maybe sooner if oil price touches $40, but who cares? |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 12:30 PM) Keep dropping.. I want to invest more soon!! any predictions on the index positions? This year will end with 1500point.Next year 2015:- January 1500 February 1550 March 1400 April 1300 May 1400 June 1400 July 1450 August 1500 September 1500 October 1200 November 1200 December 1000 |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 16 2014, 01:06 PM) This year will end with 1500point. got so cham or not? i think will remain to 1400 to 1500 la if worse things remainNext year 2015:- January 1500 February 1550 March 1400 April 1300 May 1400 June 1400 July 1450 August 1500 September 1500 October 1200 November 1200 December 1000 |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(Carls_Nemesis @ Dec 16 2014, 01:10 PM) got so cham or not? i think will remain to 1400 to 1500 la if worse things remain After GST, consumer spending drop in April onwards.Property will go the way of Spain by end of next year. Banking will crash. People will no longer have spending power due to household debt. Malaysia is finished. |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:27 PM
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Caught some nicorp at 9c guys... Happy fishing day...
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Dec 16 2014, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 16 2014, 01:14 PM) After GST, consumer spending drop in April onwards. Malaysia finished means u and me also finish...unless u live overseas and dont have malaysia assets.Property will go the way of Spain by end of next year. Banking will crash. People will no longer have spending power due to household debt. Malaysia is finished. |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(Madbull @ Dec 16 2014, 01:53 PM) Malaysia finished means u and me also finish...unless u live overseas and dont have malaysia assets. I do have asset in Malaysia, but don't have loan on it.When this shit happens, people that having DSR of > 90% will be impacted. My DSR only 5% now |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(Madbull @ Dec 16 2014, 01:53 PM) Malaysia finished means u and me also finish...unless u live overseas and dont have malaysia assets. Yes, me and you will be finished too.That's why we need to have cash now for these few years. FYI, I still holding stocks. But its too late now. Hopefully my cash will tide me over for 2 to 3 years. |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 01:57 PM) I do have asset in Malaysia, but don't have loan on it. This shit is happening now and will get worse next year. We're getting the taste of it now. When this shit happens, people that having DSR of > 90% will be impacted. My DSR only 5% now  |
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Dec 16 2014, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 16 2014, 01:59 PM) This shit is happening now and will get worse next year. We're getting the taste of it now. Is the people that waste time and money on shares feeling, now I don't feel anything Just an 18xx joke, you can't leave your penis(share) stand up straight(strike new high) all the time, after sometime, have to rest also. Taking <Via**a>(speculation news) may let it stand longer, but the side effect are greater, worst case, get stroke. This post has been edited by supersound: Dec 16 2014, 02:02 PM |
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Dec 16 2014, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 02:00 PM) Is the people that waste time and money on shares feeling, now I don't feel anything Way too long at 1800 level. Now die already. Need to go back down to 1000 points. LOL.Just an 18xx joke, you can't leave your penis(share) stand up straight(strike new high) all the time, after sometime, have to rest also. Taking <Via**a>(speculation news) may let it stand longer, but the side effect are greater, worst case, get stroke. |
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Dec 16 2014, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 02:00 PM) Is the people that waste time and money on shares feeling, now I don't feel anything Just an 18xx joke, you can't leave your penis(share) stand up straight(strike new high) all the time, after sometime, have to rest also. Taking <Via**a>(speculation news) may let it stand longer, but the side effect are greater, worst case, get stroke. |
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Dec 16 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 16 2014, 02:05 PM) Way too long at 1800 level. Now die already. Need to go back down to 1000 points. LOL. At 1000, sure it will be interesting |
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Dec 16 2014, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 02:37 PM) At 1000, sure it will be interesting lol at that point, I'll invest my entire lifesavings in shares... impossible 1000. That would be a 20 year low.. |
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Dec 16 2014, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 02:48 PM) lol at that point, I'll invest my entire lifesavings in shares... impossible 1000. That would be a 20 year low.. Before we talk about 1000pts, at current 1500pts, is like last time's 800pts.That's government reduce counters from 100 to 30. |
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Dec 16 2014, 03:00 PM
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FOMC this wednesday..
Another pop corn |
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Dec 16 2014, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 16 2014, 02:50 PM) Before we talk about 1000pts, at current 1500pts, is like last time's 800pts. not forgetting EPF own most of the 30 counter... lolThat's government reduce counters from 100 to 30. |
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Dec 16 2014, 03:41 PM
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.... it's crude oil price that has fallen, but now almost all sector is falling ... i dont understand ....
This downtrend started in July, so, its been falling for 5 month. soon will rebound ? |
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Dec 16 2014, 03:43 PM
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Masteel warrant . So dead . 50 percent wipe out sad
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Dec 16 2014, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 03:00 PM) FOMC this wednesday.. Bone gor, I add stakes in nicorp 9c...heheAnother pop corn |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2014, 03:57 PM) Bone gor, I add stakes in nicorp 9c...hehe Mrloo bro, why nicorp? |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 16 2014, 03:41 PM) .... it's crude oil price that has fallen, but now almost all sector is falling ... i dont understand .... worldwide economy is actually dead. It just need a trigger for it to fall.This downtrend started in July, so, its been falling for 5 month. soon will rebound ? |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:01 PM
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DLady.. DLady..
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Dec 16 2014, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2014, 03:57 PM) Bone gor, I add stakes in nicorp 9c...hehe MrLoo, whats your previous stakes for nicorp ? |
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QUOTE(kevraul @ Dec 16 2014, 04:01 PM) Mrloo bro, why nicorp? The way I c it is, in such trend, dato siaw and his family still non stop buying stakes in the company ... Indirect or direct, even deal on close market... So sure got shit edi... Break 9c jao kikiki geh la... |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 16 2014, 04:04 PM) MrLoo, whats your previous stakes for nicorp ? Peanuts stakes bro... Pnc also |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM
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Lai ark nicorp... Lai...
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Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2014, 04:05 PM) Peanuts stakes bro... Pnc also cause previousy bought in on 12c when bone recommended.now went down by quite a fair bit so need some advice. |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 16 2014, 03:41 PM) .... it's crude oil price that has fallen, but now almost all sector is falling ... i dont understand .... If you recall the 1997 crisis, it started with the speculative attack on the MYR. This time it is also the depreciation of the MYR. If oil price keeps falling, we will run into a twin deficit as early as the first qtr 2015. It means that the MYR will depreciate further. This time it is not expected to have a v-shape recovery as the is no more QE. Interest rates are expected to rise in order to cap the MYR from dropping. This is of course bad for the market.This downtrend started in July, so, its been falling for 5 month. soon will rebound ? |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM) If you recall the 1997 crisis, it started with the speculative attack on the MYR. This time it is also the depreciation of the MYR. If oil price keeps falling, we will run into a twin deficit as early as the first qtr 2015. It means that the MYR will depreciate further. This time it is not expected to have a v-shape recovery as the is no more QE. Interest rates are expected to rise in order to cap the MYR from dropping. This is of course bad for the market. You're definitely right about no V shape recovery. Impossible to have V shape. |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM) If you recall the 1997 crisis, it started with the speculative attack on the MYR. This time it is also the depreciation of the MYR. If oil price keeps falling, we will run into a twin deficit as early as the first qtr 2015. It means that the MYR will depreciate further. This time it is not expected to have a v-shape recovery as the is no more QE. Interest rates are expected to rise in order to cap the MYR from dropping. This is of course bad for the market. it's so bad |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:26 PM) it's so bad It is very bad indeed. Some people still dreaming. But I believe majority know and understand that something big is coming. Now is just a taste of what to come. |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:32 PM) It is very bad indeed. Some people still dreaming. But I believe majority know and understand that something big is coming. Now is just a taste of what to come. someone told that Lower MYR is good for malaysia. stock market drop good for buying cheap & for long term |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:43 PM
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Nikkei jalan opposite of Shanghai index?
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Dec 16 2014, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:36 PM) someone told that Lower MYR is good for malaysia. stock market drop good for buying cheap & for long term If you got a lot of cash to catch the falling knife, then I think its good. Kekeke.. |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:48 PM) If you got a lot of cash to catch the falling knife, then I think its good. Kekeke.. well, if u ask me. I just watch the show for now & eat popcorn sideline |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:01 PM
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Hmm all negative news especially international data chinese pmi etc.
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Dec 16 2014, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:52 PM) well, if u ask me. I just watch the show for now & eat popcorn sideline Yeah, munching now.QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Dec 16 2014, 05:01 PM) Hmm all negative news especially international data chinese pmi etc. At this time, all company will try to come out with negative data to hide their incompetence under the pretense of economic downturn lol... |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:18 PM
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crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la
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Dec 16 2014, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:18 PM) crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la Yeah looks like it |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 06:18 PM) crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la think base shd be 40 |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:47 PM
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buying into energy is still good.. the world still needs oil, electricity. How can energy go bust?
Buy into oil. This is the cheapest you will get it for awhile... |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 05:47 PM) buying into energy is still good.. the world still needs oil, electricity. How can energy go bust? buy into oil commodity or oil stock?Buy into oil. This is the cheapest you will get it for awhile... |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:49 PM) buy into oil commodity or oil stock? commodity and energy companies stock. |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM
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u try and open an account to trade future..
buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think) Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit |
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Dec 16 2014, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM) u try and open an account to trade future.. Apa barang goreng pun hangus punya...buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think) Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit Steel, oil, property... Ini semua permainan orang kaya... if they dont play these and temp the greedy people, then they wont make huge money... |
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Dec 16 2014, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:18 PM) crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la Can we expect petrol to drop from RM2.26 to maybe RM2.20 next mth ?Also any chance AirAsia will drop their fuel surcharge ? |
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Dec 16 2014, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 02:48 PM) lol at that point, I'll invest my entire lifesavings in shares... impossible 1000. That would be a 20 year low.. 20 year low is in 1997-98 below 300. |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 05:47 PM) buying into energy is still good.. the world still needs oil, electricity. How can energy go bust? Energy won't go burst, but company with high debt and over commit can... Buy into oil. This is the cheapest you will get it for awhile... |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM) u try and open an account to trade future.. Provided have enough spare cash for margin call first before seeing rebound. buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think) Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit A bear run could easily mean a spell of period of a year up to few years sometimes. Once trend reverse, be it bull or bear generally take sometimes to find its peak or bottom. |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM) If you recall the 1997 crisis, it started with the speculative attack on the MYR. This time it is also the depreciation of the MYR. If oil price keeps falling, we will run into a twin deficit as early as the first qtr 2015. It means that the MYR will depreciate further. This time it is not expected to have a v-shape recovery as the is no more QE. Interest rates are expected to rise in order to cap the MYR from dropping. This is of course bad for the market. The difference between now and 97Malaysia doesn't start with massive trade and current account deficit, whereby prior 97 unfold, Malaysia has twin deficit and low foreign currency reserves. Now with USD120 billion foreign currency reserves (97 less than USD30 bil), and still not yet twin deficit situation provide plenty of cushion. Also lesser foreign denominated currency bond/loan as compared. At the moment, there is no need to increase the interest rate to stem the RM dropping, as most currencies around are dropping against USD across, not solely RM. Whilst in 97, the currency plunge was on solely a few crisis hit countries (high current account deficit + high foreign debt + low foreign currency reserves to fund them). So it is not "attack" solely on RM, whilst 97 was. In fact, China did cut interest rate, while Thailand was rumour to be as well, as well as there may be a cut from RBA as well in near future. So situation is a lot different with 97. |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Dec 16 2014, 07:45 PM) Can we expect petrol to drop from RM2.26 to maybe RM2.20 next mth ? i guess it would be around RM2Also any chance AirAsia will drop their fuel surcharge ? |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2014, 03:57 PM) Bone gor, I add stakes in nicorp 9c...hehe tsk tsk tskhabis liao habis liao.... wan tan mee di. |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:38 PM
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In the meantime, US goes from strength to strength. Jobs growth, salaries growth, growth in housing starts etc.
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Dec 16 2014, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 16 2014, 09:37 PM) tsk tsk tsk U don come in le... Ur curse I still remember one duck gor... Once u touch m n bone gor also bo tiam o... habis liao habis liao.... wan tan mee di. |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Dec 16 2014, 09:38 PM) In the meantime, US goes from strength to strength. Jobs growth, salaries growth, growth in housing starts etc. ..which means that commodity prices will continue to drop. And it is already happening. |
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Dec 16 2014, 10:39 PM
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What if crude oil drops to between UD20 to USD40? Most of the analyst & politicians are thinking there is no such possibility.
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Dec 16 2014, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 16 2014, 10:39 PM) What if crude oil drops to between UD20 to USD40? Most of the analyst & politicians are thinking there is no such possibility. we'll be laughing all the way to the bank...cos petrol will cost like just RM1 per liter, and airAsia no more fuel surcharge. |
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Dec 16 2014, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 16 2014, 10:39 PM) What if crude oil drops to between UD20 to USD40? Most of the analyst & politicians are thinking there is no such possibility. USD40 maybe yes, but USD20 |
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Dec 17 2014, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(curryshitter @ Dec 17 2014, 05:34 AM) so need to wait reach USD40 then only can buy back O&G counter? noted. when u c price of oil started to rebound and opec got good news then only u think about it ba i guess. if opec says again wait til usd30 only meeting again the u cry oso no tear. lol |
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Dec 17 2014, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Dec 16 2014, 09:38 PM) In the meantime, US goes from strength to strength. Jobs growth, salaries growth, growth in housing starts etc. Sacking foreign workers and let their people have job, sure the figure looks good. |
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Dec 17 2014, 09:01 AM
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quiet day
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Dec 17 2014, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(curryshitter @ Dec 17 2014, 05:34 AM) so need to wait reach USD40 then only can buy back O&G counter? noted. Nobody can accurately predict the price over certain timeframe.The best is have thick cash to support |
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Dec 17 2014, 09:14 AM
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O&G start up..
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Dec 17 2014, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Dec 16 2014, 11:31 PM) we'll be laughing all the way to the bank...cos petrol will cost like just RM1 per liter, and airAsia no more fuel surcharge. Malaysian ringgit would also drop to 1USD = RM4 already... |
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Dec 17 2014, 09:42 AM
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Dec 17 2014, 09:45 AM
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they realize crude oil cannot fall any further? hence the buy ? also ringgit not going up above 3.5 anymore ...
Rebound ??? ha ha ... so fast up today. i tot sideway first This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Dec 17 2014, 09:46 AM |
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Dec 17 2014, 09:48 AM
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could be a fake signal
like DJIA yesterday, first half up, up, then 2nd half tumbling down |
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Dec 17 2014, 09:55 AM
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dead cat bounce.. oversold till 1600 next week then only jump on the bandwagon
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Dec 17 2014, 10:04 AM
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i share buy back today
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Dec 17 2014, 10:30 AM
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fake cumback or real comeback?
regional macam green saja? |
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Dec 17 2014, 10:37 AM
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fake one laaa friday will red again
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Dec 17 2014, 10:42 AM
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wow rebounded quite nicely
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Dec 17 2014, 11:06 AM
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alamok rebound done?
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Dec 17 2014, 11:36 AM
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Morning taken via**a, after a shot no strength liao.
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Dec 17 2014, 11:51 AM
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If u look at the charts, the support level is around 1650
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Dec 17 2014, 12:10 PM
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From TheEdge today, "Asian central banks have ramped up their intervention in currency markets to stem the sell-off roiling emerging markets, testing the notion that the region is better placed to handle a market rout than during the 1997/1998 Asian crisis.." Russia spend USD90 billion of exchange reserves but the rouble keeps falling.
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Holland chicks macam yummy
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2014, 09:57 PM) U don come in le... Ur curse I still remember one duck gor... Once u touch m n bone gor also bo tiam o... dun worry...not buying anything yet. |
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Dec 17 2014, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 17 2014, 01:45 PM) dun worry... Phew, lucky us...not buying anything yet. |
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 17 2014, 01:54 PM) Phew, lucky us... aiyo, dun like that la. nevertheless, still hope the market go down further. opec's statement that they won't meet until usd40 per barrel is troubling. what you buying besides nicorp at 0.09 (bottom di, go down summore gonna go private liao) |
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Dec 17 2014, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 17 2014, 01:58 PM) aiyo, Dato siaw buy a lot at 110-125,I don think he can't below 8c dun like that la. nevertheless, still hope the market go down further. opec's statement that they won't meet until usd40 per barrel is troubling. what you buying besides nicorp at 0.09 (bottom di, go down summore gonna go private liao) Wb teach, be greedy when other is fearful, be fearful when other is greedy.. |
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Dec 17 2014, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 17 2014, 02:36 PM) Dato siaw buy a lot at 110-125,I don think he can't below 8c you dont think he cant below 8c? does it means he can or he couldn't? Wb teach, be greedy when other is fearful, be fearful when other is greedy.. |
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 17 2014, 02:39 PM) you dont think he cant below 8c? does it means he can or he couldn't? I meant he cannot c below 8c ... Typo |
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Dec 17 2014, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 17 2014, 02:51 PM) I meant he cannot c below 8c ... Typo oh okok . why cant see below 8c? |
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 17 2014, 03:58 PM) oh okok Your sur name is "Lee"? . why cant see below 8c? |
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Dec 17 2014, 03:11 PM) Your sur name is "Lee"? hahhaa nah, my sir name is dato kidding |
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just buy sumatec only..
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Dec 17 2014, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 17 2014, 02:58 PM) oh okok Dont know... But 9c is definitely a good price... Will a director purposely grow money in sea? . why cant see below 8c? |
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Dec 17 2014, 03:34 PM
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but what does NICORP do atm?
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Dec 17 2014, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Dec 17 2014, 03:34 PM) but what does NICORP do atm? Go c bone gor blog... Now is all about restructuring... |
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Dec 17 2014, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 17 2014, 04:39 PM) Go c bone gor blog... Now is all about restructuring... I saw, but are they still planning for O&G RTO?or total restructuring in the sense no business is running now? |
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Dec 17 2014, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Dec 17 2014, 03:47 PM) I saw, but are they still planning for O&G RTO? Property or complex...or total restructuring in the sense no business is running now? My bet |
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Dec 17 2014, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 17 2014, 03:57 PM) Property or complex... bone gor, did u add more stakes when 8c? hehe...My bet wait 9c break we jao kikiki |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 17 2014, 03:59 PM) bone gor, did u add more stakes when 8c? hehe... if continue add, i sit in board later alreadywait 9c break we jao kikiki |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 17 2014, 04:00 PM) if continue add, i sit in board later already then ma can know more intel... |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:02 PM
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dun want la.. u want to see my face meh
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Dec 17 2014, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 17 2014, 04:02 PM) dun want la.. u want to see my face meh sure veli handsome one, see edi more prosperity ma... =) |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 17 2014, 04:04 PM) sure veli handsome one, see edi more prosperity ma... =) AHAHAHAH! |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 17 2014, 04:06 PM) AHAHAHAH!This sounds like kena f*** LOL |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 17 2014, 04:18 PM) ah ah ah ah ah ????? he see ur photo and F u? eewwwwww... This sounds like kena f*** LOL |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 17 2014, 04:18 PM) ah ah ah ah ah ????? This sounds like kena f*** LOL bone gor so dirty minded. its actually HAHAHAHA. typo Bone gor's face --> LOL |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 17 2014, 04:19 PM) he see ur photo and F u? eewwwwww... Dam.. I am not gay |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 17 2014, 04:21 PM) bone gor so dirty minded. its actually HAHAHAHA. typo Bone gor's face --> LOL ANyhow.. just joking only |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:27 PM
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market green today..
dead cat bounce? |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 17 2014, 04:23 PM) Dam.. I am not gay mou lou hei bone gor... trying to make some "hei fun" since here so dead... |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:32 PM
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market taking a breather cannot red everyday.. period has to stop after few days
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Dec 17 2014, 04:34 PM
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ahwai.. u sell so many things one..
flower, house, commercial.. wa.. must be very rich already |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Dec 17 2014, 04:30 PM) Why not? Market cannot be falling everyday right? okay. understand. Oil went up a little bit but still on down trend. just chill bro |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:50 PM
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Something to read
Why You Should Care About The Collapsing Russian Ruble Oil Is Headed Toward A Major Recovery If History Has Taught Us Anything This post has been edited by kuluuluk: Dec 17 2014, 04:50 PM |
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Dec 17 2014, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Dec 17 2014, 07:35 PM) Actually market fall can make money. msia got vix? Buy vix.  Vix also just collapse today |
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Dec 17 2014, 05:06 PM
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Dec 17 2014, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Dec 17 2014, 04:50 PM) Something to read Any commodities generally won't plunge to dirt cheap one, as if it does, it will kill the supply, eventually, supply become less, price recover.Why You Should Care About The Collapsing Russian Ruble Oil Is Headed Toward A Major Recovery If History Has Taught Us Anything We don't need rocket science or crystal ball to know oil price will stable at a level and creeping up over the long term. Just like we won't buy a terrace house with 20K like 70's, Rm1.00 petrol per litres, RM0.50 per bowl of hawker mee. |
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Dec 17 2014, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 17 2014, 06:13 PM) Any commodities generally won't plunge to dirt cheap one, as if it does, it will kill the supply, eventually, supply become less, price recover. Hopefully next month our petrol reduce to RM1.7 We don't need rocket science or crystal ball to know oil price will stable at a level and creeping up over the long term. Just like we won't buy a terrace house with 20K like 70's, Rm1.00 petrol per litres, RM0.50 per bowl of hawker mee. |
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Dec 17 2014, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 17 2014, 05:13 PM) Any commodities generally won't plunge to dirt cheap one, as if it does, it will kill the supply, eventually, supply become less, price recover. thing is, world's most efficient companies able to dig/produce oil at US$20-$30 or so. That would be pretty dirty low as compare with US$100 our recent normal price, and still another 50% discount to current price. Oil stocks can go lower for another 50% from current price, which means 80% discount or so at their peak price just few months ago. That's pretty hurt already.We don't need rocket science or crystal ball to know oil price will stable at a level and creeping up over the long term. Just like we won't buy a terrace house with 20K like 70's, Rm1.00 petrol per litres, RM0.50 per bowl of hawker mee. |
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Dec 17 2014, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Dec 17 2014, 05:27 PM) If you are talking about shale oil. Very, very few shale oil companies can actually do that. Only some shale oil companies (as well as oil companies) needs US$80, some don't. Most reports say that for Shale to survive in general, you need USD80 at least. And that's pushing it. Yes, it's possible to produce oil at that level. But then, for many oil producing countries, it will hurt their budget severely. So this low price environment triggers large scale industry consolidation on both companies and countries. This post has been edited by yok70: Dec 17 2014, 05:32 PM |
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Dec 17 2014, 05:42 PM
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fyi.
besides, technology continues to advance on shale oil for reducing production cost. This post has been edited by yok70: Dec 17 2014, 05:46 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 17 2014, 05:54 PM
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shale oil breakeven price from credit suisse on Sep 2014.
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Dec 17 2014, 06:08 PM
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KLCI closed up 7.96 points to 1,681.90. Turnover was 1.943 billion shares valued at RM2.06bil. There were 648 gainers, 257 decliners and 228 counters unchanged.
Reuters reported an uneasy hush settled over Asian markets on Wednesday as a brewing financial crisis in Russia and the rout in oil prices sent investors scurrying for the cover of top-rated bonds. It said that yields on British, German and Japan sovereign debt had all hit record lows while long-dated US and Australian yields reached their lowest since 2012. |
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Dec 17 2014, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Dec 17 2014, 05:19 PM) Hopefully next month our petrol reduce to RM1.7 rm0.05 will be more realistic |
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Dec 17 2014, 06:40 PM
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yok 70, you are fantastic!
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Dec 17 2014, 07:13 PM
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Nicorp shares again being bought by dato siaw family member through open market at the price of rm0.105 per shares at 10/12, one million units... In these sentiment still so actively buy, no ghost meh? Hehe
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Dec 17 2014, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 17 2014, 05:23 PM) thing is, world's most efficient companies able to dig/produce oil at US$20-$30 or so. That would be pretty dirty low as compare with US$100 our recent normal price, and still another 50% discount to current price. Oil stocks can go lower for another 50% from current price, which means 80% discount or so at their peak price just few months ago. That's pretty hurt already. Once the profit margin is not encouraging, it will dent future capital investment towards it, eventually resulting in future supply is contained at existing level.While in future if there is increase in demand, the supply may not able to catch up, as you need years ahead for capital investment to increase supply, hence price could soar at that point. Once profit margin is not good, it is a supply destruction factor. This was what had happened when oil price was below USD20 time during 1998~1999. When worldwide economy did recover back then, supply has hard time to meet the demand, hence building a strong bull run afterwards for the rest few years time. |
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Dec 17 2014, 09:58 PM
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Anyone knows where can I download the annual financial report in excel file? Im lazy to key in one by one
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Dec 17 2014, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 17 2014, 09:51 PM) Once the profit margin is not encouraging, it will dent future capital investment towards it, eventually resulting in future supply is contained at existing level. So this is an opportunity to invest in fundamentally strong O&G counters?While in future if there is increase in demand, the supply may not able to catch up, as you need years ahead for capital investment to increase supply, hence price could soar at that point. Once profit margin is not good, it is a supply destruction factor. This was what had happened when oil price was below USD20 time during 1998~1999. When worldwide economy did recover back then, supply has hard time to meet the demand, hence building a strong bull run afterwards for the rest few years time. |
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Dec 17 2014, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Dec 17 2014, 09:58 PM) Anyone knows where can I download the annual financial report in excel file? Im lazy to key in one by one got in excel form meh? never see it before  |
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Dec 17 2014, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Dec 17 2014, 09:58 PM) Anyone knows where can I download the annual financial report in excel file? Im lazy to key in one by one i tot u can juz copy n paste from pdf? or try this |
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Dec 17 2014, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 17 2014, 10:29 PM) So this is an opportunity to invest in fundamentally strong O&G counters? I have no crystal ball, but this is few area I find at least attractive in value.Unlike other blue chips even though KLCI already plunged more than 100 points, many of them still rather "expensive". |
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Dec 18 2014, 12:31 AM
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crude 57!!! going back to 60 soon
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Dec 18 2014, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 17 2014, 10:29 PM) So this is an opportunity to invest in fundamentally strong O&G counters? How to define fundamentally strong in Oil n Gas?Cash rich? No debts? |
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Dec 18 2014, 12:59 AM
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Hit 59 now for crude.. Looks like no more mega sales already?
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Dec 18 2014, 01:17 AM
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Its time to buy again. 1st phase of rebound, a very very strong rebound signal. This is no longer dead cat bounce.
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Dec 18 2014, 01:21 AM
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need rebound gao gao few more days, then retailers only will in market again..most of them are pissed off and scare of stock market already..
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Dec 18 2014, 01:50 AM
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Pissed off and already burned sampai mati is 2 different thing.. haha
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Dec 18 2014, 04:36 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 17 2014, 09:51 PM) Once the profit margin is not encouraging, it will dent future capital investment towards it, eventually resulting in future supply is contained at existing level. True. For an investor, we actually wish oil price can stay at low side for longer time. This will boost profits for many companies except oil related companies. And then, after good consolidation, buy into oil company and wait for the strong recovery to come. While in future if there is increase in demand, the supply may not able to catch up, as you need years ahead for capital investment to increase supply, hence price could soar at that point. Once profit margin is not good, it is a supply destruction factor. This was what had happened when oil price was below USD20 time during 1998~1999. When worldwide economy did recover back then, supply has hard time to meet the demand, hence building a strong bull run afterwards for the rest few years time. |
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Dec 18 2014, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 12:38 AM) How to define fundamentally strong in Oil n Gas? Good biz model, strong order book.Cash rich? No debts? |
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Dec 18 2014, 06:55 AM
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Dow Sibeh hiong, 288 points up...the Yi tao so good, 易发发。。
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Dec 18 2014, 08:00 AM
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then here up 16.88 or 18.88 ?
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Dec 18 2014, 08:24 AM
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http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...s-it/?style=biz
1st -ve news in the morning. I won't say is news, more on speculation. |
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Dec 18 2014, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Dec 17 2014, 10:31 PM) Thank you. Guess have to copy and paste from pdf |
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Dec 18 2014, 08:58 AM
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Boom chaik cjiak
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Dec 18 2014, 08:58 AM
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Wao, nicorp will burst one la... Anyone bought?
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Dec 18 2014, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 08:58 AM) Wao, nicorp will burst one la... Anyone bought? top up alrdy yesterday!! |
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Dec 18 2014, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 18 2014, 09:08 AM) top up alrdy yesterday!! 8c? Good price bro |
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Dec 18 2014, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 09:11 AM) 8c? Good price bro didnt la, too gan cheong yesterday. got at 9c LOL what about you bro? |
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Dec 18 2014, 09:17 AM
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oil price up ???? b b b ong counter ..... now cheap buy
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Dec 18 2014, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 18 2014, 09:17 AM) didnt la, too gan cheong yesterday. got at 9c LOL Same, whack when 9c... Pray bone deploy his arsenalwhat about you bro? |
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Dec 18 2014, 09:25 AM
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Suddenly oil price up?? Suddenly bullrun??
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Dec 18 2014, 09:34 AM
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Oil price only went up a tiny bit, aren't the market over reacting?
or window dressing activity eh |
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Dec 18 2014, 09:56 AM
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Cannot be straight line down one lah, in between there will be bounces along.
But situation is "calmer". |
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Dec 18 2014, 10:00 AM
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people are more accustomed to low prices?
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Dec 18 2014, 10:21 AM
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That day Affin big drop I bought some, ppl tell me, why u go and buy??? It will drop more you know?
Today market up abit, ppl still telling me, this is fake rebound, later it will drop kao kao. Cannot understand them. You take the risk you pay/reward for it. |
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Dec 18 2014, 10:37 AM
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hehe gets so quiet when the market is up
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Dec 18 2014, 10:53 AM
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All click click click
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Dec 18 2014, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Dec 18 2014, 10:21 AM) That day Affin big drop I bought some, ppl tell me, why u go and buy??? It will drop more you know? That y most people will lose money in stock market Today market up abit, ppl still telling me, this is fake rebound, later it will drop kao kao. Cannot understand them. You take the risk you pay/reward for it. |
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Dec 18 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Dec 18 2014, 10:21 AM) That day Affin big drop I bought some, ppl tell me, why u go and buy??? It will drop more you know? Risk/reward has become favourable. Oil downside probably another max 5-10%? Problem is more a country specific mainly on oil exporting countries and if they can balance their budget or risk credit downgrade. Overall low oil environment is good as it will ease off inflation pressures and consumer can spend more on other discretionary items (in theory as we all know our local mamak would not lower prices). Fed gave official guidance of kicking the interest rate hike timeline can down to the road to 2016. While ECB is being pressured to go ahead with their own version of QE to bring back up inflation numbers.Today market up abit, ppl still telling me, this is fake rebound, later it will drop kao kao. Cannot understand them. You take the risk you pay/reward for it. Am not sure about ppl telling you but I am sure felt that the sunlight is brighter this morning. anyhow, just do some scalping la. |
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Dec 18 2014, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 08:58 AM) Wao, nicorp will burst one la... Anyone bought? good spot bro....... |
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Dec 18 2014, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 09:21 AM) Same, whack when 9c... Pray bone deploy his arsenal UP UP UP NICORP |
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Dec 18 2014, 11:58 AM
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Waaaa
so many nicorpers here one ah?? |
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Dec 18 2014, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(kevraul @ Dec 18 2014, 11:33 AM) good spot bro....... It's bone gor spot bro, I just do some self analysis, felt comfy then buy.. |
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Dec 18 2014, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 11:58 AM) Waaaa Yesterday jio quite a number.. so many nicorpers here one ah?? |
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Dec 18 2014, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 11:58 AM) Waaaa Now u are back to promote stocks........ so many nicorpers here one ah?? |
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Dec 18 2014, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 12:13 PM) Yesterday jio quite a number.. Enough to take the company into private |
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Dec 18 2014, 01:57 PM
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wow, nice rebound.
nicorp go go go!! |
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Dec 18 2014, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 18 2014, 12:20 PM) Enough to take the company into private Nola, not even a hair... Unless sky gor join lo... Then we can privatize |
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Dec 18 2014, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 01:57 PM) Nola, not even a hair... Unless sky gor join lo... Then we can privatize take private, okhow much you offer for those stocks not in hand? |
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Dec 18 2014, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 18 2014, 01:57 PM) wow, nice rebound. U join ah duck gor... Kelong liao... nicorp go go go!! |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 18 2014, 01:58 PM) take private, ok Must ask sky gor cause if he join only maybe we got the power to do so... how much you offer for those stocks not in hand? |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 01:59 PM) U join ah duck gor... Kelong liao... how to kelong?no where to go down summore . 9sen oni go down summore really have to go private |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 18 2014, 02:02 PM) how to kelong? Don say, gpacket can Kelong till no road see once u buy, the chicken stock also... no where to go down summore . 9sen oni go down summore really have to go private So u hoot down 10c la sure fly |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 02:04 PM) Don say, gpacket can Kelong till no road see once u buy, the chicken stock also... that one old sad stories. So u hoot down 10c la sure fly new story is MBB waffak can go down so much oso i cannot understand. |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:18 PM
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I also hoot AWC already
Rawr!! |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:19 PM
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Nicorp at 0.09 still can go?
what about euro? I am stuck at 0.69. Should i cut or not? |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 18 2014, 02:09 PM) that one old sad stories. maybe u r destined to be so? new story is MBB waffak can go down so much oso i cannot understand. |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 02:18 PM) I also hoot AWC already AHRORRRAAAR OOOOEEEEEOOOEEEEOOOoooRawr!! gogogo! very seldom bone give tips clear clear like this. |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(kevraul @ Dec 18 2014, 02:19 PM) Nicorp at 0.09 still can go? Huh flew until 745 u no sell? I told my fren sell 745 he never ended up selling 72... what about euro? I am stuck at 0.69. Should i cut or not? I reckon u wait till the private placement announcement bah maybe, if cut now like vey pain unless u can generate more than the amount u loss using the money... |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 02:18 PM) I also hoot AWC already Insufficient funds here... Miss boat meh...zzzRawr!! |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 02:24 PM) Huh flew until 745 u no sell? I told my fren sell 745 he never ended up selling 72... didnt sell that time, and the next thing i know, this thing hit....... I reckon u wait till the private placement announcement bah maybe, if cut now like vey pain unless u can generate more than the amount u loss using the money... at 0.6 now, wonder if it will still go up a bit...... nicorp? 0.9 masukable? |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:29 PM
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Rotto gun bang bang!!
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Dec 18 2014, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 02:29 PM) Rotto gun bang bang!! hit and run or keep long long? |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:32 PM
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hit and run nia la.......market like it is nowadays, keep long long mana bulih
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Dec 18 2014, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 18 2014, 02:30 PM) hit and run or keep long long? This one is ur decision bro Nobody take gun and point.. |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2014, 02:29 PM) Rotto gun bang bang!! bone gor, other than the price at the time dato siaw buy in, did you still top up? |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 18 2014, 02:35 PM) bone gor, other than the price at the time dato siaw buy in, did you still top up? from 0.12 to 0.085 |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 18 2014, 02:35 PM) bone gor, other than the price at the time dato siaw buy in, did you still top up? U go and study ecofirs history and pattern.. I dunno if this will be the same anot |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(kevraul @ Dec 18 2014, 02:29 PM) didnt sell that time, and the next thing i know, this thing hit....... I can't really tell, also lose so much edi, why not see what drama they playing?at 0.6 now, wonder if it will still go up a bit...... nicorp? 0.9 masukable? IMHO, I think those shark won't want to throw money into sea bah... Buy a lot at 105-125 range... Suddenly sell ma lose a lot at this stage,.. This post has been edited by MrLoo: Dec 18 2014, 02:40 PM |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:48 PM
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Once ah duck gor join, break barrier also harder..
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Dec 18 2014, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(kevraul @ Dec 18 2014, 02:32 PM) hit and run nia la.......market like it is nowadays, keep long long mana bulih specu counterskeep long long normally not by choice.... sometimes kena ikat like crab like that. |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Dec 18 2014, 02:48 PM) specu counters If u kena hit then u run ..that is normal keep long long normally not by choice.... sometimes kena ikat like crab like that. |
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Dec 18 2014, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 18 2014, 02:54 PM) If u kena hit then u run ..that is normal hit and run la...not kena hit then run everytime kena hit must run, die lo |
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Dec 18 2014, 03:22 PM
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what about hit and see? Lol
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Dec 18 2014, 03:44 PM
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Suddenly so quiet...
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Dec 18 2014, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 03:44 PM) Suddenly so quiet... don't know what are they doing with nicorp |
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Dec 18 2014, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 03:44 PM) Suddenly so quiet... |
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Dec 18 2014, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 18 2014, 03:45 PM) don't know what are they doing with nicorp If know I all in edi |
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Dec 18 2014, 04:33 PM
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Nicorp pre closing drama? Hehe
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Dec 18 2014, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 18 2014, 04:33 PM) Nicorp pre closing drama? Hehe hahaha |
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Dec 18 2014, 06:49 PM
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top loser and gainer oso 0.88
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Dec 19 2014, 12:33 AM
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Hi, anyone know about this counter, Dialog 7277.
i had go through its annual report and quite good in profit growing and EPS. since now O&G stock all drop, is it good time to in? |
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Dec 19 2014, 06:49 AM
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DJI up 2.43% again
Superbull coming? |
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Dec 19 2014, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Dec 19 2014, 06:49 AM) DJI up 2.43% again Superbull coming? |
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Dec 19 2014, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 19 2014, 06:54 AM) Dato Help support market |
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Dec 19 2014, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 19 2014, 09:10 AM) Jia You Dato please send in ur arsenal to break nicorp barrier Dato Help support market |
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Dec 19 2014, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 19 2014, 09:34 AM) Dato please send in ur arsenal to break nicorp barrier waiting for bone gor |
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Dec 19 2014, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(chongwei @ Dec 19 2014, 09:44 AM) waiting for bone gor |
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Dec 19 2014, 10:25 AM
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hmmm why FBMKLCI -CH wont move? seems like good stock to get now
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Dec 19 2014, 10:38 AM
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Nicorp 11 am show?
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Dec 19 2014, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Dec 19 2014, 09:49 AM) DJI up 2.43% again when is last day of trading? Superbull coming? |
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Dec 19 2014, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(bhamophet @ Dec 19 2014, 10:25 AM) hmmm why FBMKLCI -CH wont move? seems like good stock to get now not worth the risk reward to buy structure warrants.Let me explain this, On the risk: suppose you hold this FBMKLCI -CH till end july 2015 and FBMKLCI still below 1900, you lose EVERYTHING. On the reward: If the market reach above 1900, then you would have earn little cause you would have paid heavily on adjusted premium and time decay (weekends) by then. so, risk/reward = lose everything/earn little. This is a full prove way of bank making money from retailers, stay away from it unless you are very pro. |
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Dec 19 2014, 10:49 AM
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i see. if only can goreng haha
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Dec 19 2014, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 19 2014, 10:42 AM) when is last day of trading? Exactly But i do hope the local big fund support will lose steam cause im lowball-ing some counters |
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Dec 19 2014, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Dec 19 2014, 10:50 AM) Exactly U are not making the market factors to invest ..I presume ...But i do hope the local big fund support will lose steam cause im lowball-ing some counters U can buy low and sell lower ...no doubt about it .. Let me know when LG sinks back to 31sen..I want to buy some also  |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 19 2014, 10:47 AM) not worth the risk reward to buy structure warrants. i used to work for warrants desk. structured warrants is mainly for goreng hentam / insider news. not worth for the average investor. 99% of the time investor kena burn.Let me explain this, On the risk: suppose you hold this FBMKLCI -CH till end july 2015 and FBMKLCI still below 1900, you lose EVERYTHING. On the reward: If the market reach above 1900, then you would have earn little cause you would have paid heavily on adjusted premium and time decay (weekends) by then. so, risk/reward = lose everything/earn little. This is a full prove way of bank making money from retailers, stay away from it unless you are very pro. |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:00 AM) i used to work for warrants desk. structured warrants is mainly for goreng hentam / insider news. not worth for the average investor. 99% of the time investor kena burn. Ya U are right ...But it is quite unfair to investors cos there are no Put warrants for individual stocks in Bursa unlike the matured markets.. I wanted to tembak Put Warrants a month back..but could not find them for individual stocks....... Do not forget Call or Put warrants are issued with big premiums...but Bankers are still Kiasu to issue Put Warrants... BTW, bankers are allowed to push up and down on call warrants...so ikan bilis are playing against ( or rather paying the bankers ) the bankers...... So what is the chance of beating them the bankers ? This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:16 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 11:06 AM) Ya U are right ... No chance.. when banks issue the call warrants you are already paying heavy premium. then on of that bank control the buying/selling price. anytime can hentam down the warrant price.But it is quite unfair to investors cos there are no Put warrants for individual stocks in Bursa unlike the matured markets.. I wanted to tembak Put Warrants a month back..but could not find them for individual stocks....... BTW, bankers are allowed to push up and down on call warrants...so ikan bilis are playing against ( or rather paying the bankers ) the bankers...... So what is the chance of beating them the bankers ? |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:15 AM) No chance.. when banks issue the call warrants you are already paying heavy premium. then on of that bank control the buying/selling price. anytime can hentam down the warrant price. There is a chance for Put Warrants..... Guys..I am not promoting anything here..just for knowledge sharing..... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:21 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:21 AM
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haha so far current bursa rules don't allow for short-selling
cant issue single stock put warrants if can't short-sell even if can issue, the premium is even higher for put warrants |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:21 AM) haha so far current bursa rules don't allow for short-selling There used to be 2 Put warrants.on individual stocks ...so why the rules...say cannot issue Put Warrantscant issue single stock put warrants if can't short-sell even if can issue, the premium is even higher for put warrants Genting also can say some games which are of gambling contents.are banned ?....just mere excuse lah Simply Bankers stand a chance of losing on PUT even with a big premium ..right ? This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:28 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 11:25 AM) There used to be 2 Put warrants....so why the rules...say cannot issue Put Warrants Sky gor hooted any nicorp?Genting also can say some games which are of gambling contents.are banned ?....just mere excuse lah |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 19 2014, 11:27 AM) Sky gor hooted any nicorp? I go for Cash rich companies at current moment..... |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:31 AM
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AWC
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Dec 19 2014, 11:40 AM
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darn. sink in abit on fbmklci-ch edi. marco still can collect? lol
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Dec 19 2014, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:15 AM) No chance.. when banks issue the call warrants you are already paying heavy premium. then on of that bank control the buying/selling price. anytime can hentam down the warrant price. There is still chance if you know how to play it.Basically, the point of entry should be precisely at the end of retracement within an uptrend, I let you figure that out, but you are right that majority lose money. |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:43 AM
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Bank release fbmklci warrant so tat they will have some brokerage also mah
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Dec 19 2014, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 11:25 AM) There used to be 2 Put warrants.on individual stocks ...so why the rules...say cannot issue Put Warrants no one say cannot issue put warrants. just that cannot short sell.. Genting also can say some games which are of gambling contents.are banned ?....just mere excuse lah Simply Bankers stand a chance of losing on PUT even with a big premium ..right ? yes banks can still lose on issuing puts even with big premium |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:45 AM) no one say cannot issue put warrants. just that cannot short sell.. BTW , One ex banker just compensated investors for manipulating a call warrant just before its expiry ..yes banks can still lose on issuing puts even with big premium It is done through SC/Bursa ....some cash refunds..after investigations done In a way, manipulation is proved ...not just a mere conspiracy theory as always claimed..... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 11:51 AM |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 11:48 AM) BTW , One ex banker just compensated investors for manipulating a call warrant just before its expiry .. yea thats why the warrants desk must show consistency in maintaining the price.. if not kena screwed.. the early days was quite cowboyIt is done through SC/Bursa ....some cash refunds..after investigations done In a way, manipulation is proved ...not just a mere conspiracy theory as always claimed..... |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 19 2014, 11:55 AM) yea thats why the warrants desk must show consistency in maintaining the price.. if not kena screwed.. the early days was quite cowboy Thanks for all yours valuable sharing |
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Dec 19 2014, 12:13 PM
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one question leads to such enlightenment ^^
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Dec 19 2014, 12:29 PM
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It is good once upon a time to share some inner feeling or inside stories ...
It is valuable so u do not make the same mistakes again and again.. But later u ask the same Q again and again...no one might answer u The price u need to pay lah......through your own mistakes.... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 12:31 PM |
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Dec 19 2014, 12:36 PM
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Since now SC so active catching... they dhud go n dig out the case where DRB osk issued call warrant prior to expiry n limit down..
need to reprimand the culprit |
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Dec 19 2014, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 19 2014, 12:36 PM) Since now SC so active catching... they dhud go n dig out the case where DRB osk issued call warrant prior to expiry n limit down.. That was the one I talked about........ .compensations .u hit the bull eye...... need to reprimand the culprit This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 12:42 PM |
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Dec 19 2014, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 10:59 AM) U are not making the market factors to invest ..I presume ... Buy low and buy lower U can buy low and sell lower ...no doubt about it .. Let me know when LG sinks back to 31sen..I want to buy some also Roger captain |
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Dec 19 2014, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 12:40 PM) That was the one I talked about........ .compensations .u hit the bull eye...... Ooooo.. tat case finally admit ad aa ??Tat time was so obvious.. and they dare to come out n say is a mistake.. wtf really ! It is so.blantant obvious tat osk is behind tat pile of shitty move. |
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Dec 19 2014, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 19 2014, 01:15 PM) Ooooo.. tat case finally admit ad aa ?? Tat time was so obvious.. and they dare to come out n say is a mistake.. wtf really ! It is so.blantant obvious tat osk is behind tat pile of shitty move. |
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Dec 19 2014, 02:48 PM
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Hi Sky Gor, nice to see you here...in your humble opinion, what do you think about SymLife? It has been dropping all the way until RM0.80..
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Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(kancs3118 @ Dec 19 2014, 02:48 PM) Hi Sky Gor, nice to see you here...in your humble opinion, what do you think about SymLife? It has been dropping all the way until RM0.80.. Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... Anyway , PBB has only 2 sectors they favour currently i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral.... Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 03:06 PM |
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Dec 19 2014, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM) Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... SkyGor, sorry if i sounded rude. Do you mind to share what is your average cost? You can PM me...mine is quite high...more than RM1.15 Anyway , PBB has only 2 sectors they favour currently i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral.... Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak It has been a horrible month - to loss about 30% in 1 month... |
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Dec 19 2014, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM) Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... reading EPS and PE by itself yield not much meaning to the growth potential of the company. Anyway , PBB has only 2 sectors they favour currently i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral.... Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak one has to compare historical EPS and ROE/PE itself to be able to derive meaningful numbers. just imho. |
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Dec 19 2014, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 19 2014, 03:25 PM) reading EPS and PE by itself yield not much meaning to the growth potential of the company. I say all are not important either one has to compare historical EPS and ROE/PE itself to be able to derive meaningful numbers. just imho. Importantly find your own secret recipe of making money in stock market..and u multiple your success.story ..... What is ROE if u are very Good at Futures.......... By knowing..ROE .......U know Oil Price trend kah especially u mentioned Historic data are imp U may do away with oil in Future..I doubt u can do away with housing.....for a young country like us... Do not forget to compare our housing with Asian countries too.. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 19 2014, 03:42 PM |
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Dec 19 2014, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM) Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... Last minute b4 closing pinch some Sym into vault.. Anyway , PBB has only 2 sectors they favour currently i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral.... Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak |
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Dec 19 2014, 05:40 PM
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thheavy tanking like submarine.......
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Dec 19 2014, 06:21 PM
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The FBM KLCI has extend its gains for the third day today as bargain hunting has emerged after the earlier sharp drop on share prices.
However, the benchmark index has ended the week slightly lower at 1,715.99 points, down 17 points or 0.98% from last Friday’s closing of 1,732.99 points. At market close, the index was 16.04 points or 0.94% higher against Thursday's closing. Across the board, a total of 1.87 billion shares worth RM2.21 billion were traded. Market breadth was positive, with gainers beating decliners at 606 versus 257, while 277 counters were unchanged. This post has been edited by nexona88: Dec 19 2014, 06:22 PM |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2014, 07:21 PM) The FBM KLCI has extend its gains for the third day today as bargain hunting has emerged after the earlier sharp drop on share prices. I would look at crude oil price tonight and the nyse. If oil can maintain upwards 54usd and nyse mostly green sure bursa continue tommorrow rally...However, the benchmark index has ended the week slightly lower at 1,715.99 points, down 17 points or 0.98% from last Friday’s closing of 1,732.99 points. At market close, the index was 16.04 points or 0.94% higher against Thursday's closing. Across the board, a total of 1.87 billion shares worth RM2.21 billion were traded. Market breadth was positive, with gainers beating decliners at 606 versus 257, while 277 counters were unchanged. |
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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Dec 19 2014, 04:54 PM) Last minute b4 closing pinch some Sym into vault.. Keep your fingers cross for this news :-The dual-track railway, part of a 1,400 kilometre (870 mile) vision of linking China's southwestern hub city of Kunming with Asia's second busiest port of Singapore, is the centrepiece of Li's one-night visit, a Thai government spokesman told AFP. Read more at: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articl..._campaign=cppst |
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Government-linked funds snap up blue-chip stocks. The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) has bought stocks across various sectors, Bursa Malaysia filings showed.
On Tuesday, the fund bought 551,900 shares in AMMB Holdings Bhd, 100,000 in Kuala Lumpur Kepong Bhd (KLK), 1.29 million in IHH Healthcare Bhd, 1.25 million in Tenaga Nasional Bhd, 400,000 in Petronas Gas Bhd and 1.42 million in Telekom Malaysia Bhd. Besides the index-linked counters, the pension fund also acquired other stocks like IJM Corp Bhd, Alliance Financial Group Bhd, Gamuda Bhd, Pos Malaysia Bhd and Sunway Bhd. Interestingly, the fund also bought into a number of real estate investment trusts (Reits) like Axis REIT, Sunway REIT and Capitamalls Malaysia Trust (CMMT). |
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Dec 20 2014, 01:41 PM
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I concluded my view points on the one who can sapu the money from stock market. Retail investors should have the competencies on,
1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy. 2) Sell. Investment is not completed until you sell your share for profit. Share is designed to go up naturally, not go down. 3) Safeguard investment. Your money starts to be disappeared when you 'buy'... feed your remiser, security firm, government....many other reasons. Invest your 'time' to safeguard your money and wisely play on 'timing'. Retail investors have lack of resources (money compared to EPF and fund managers) and team (human resources to do a large amount of analysis, watch the market and network). Hard to influence the market with 'supply and demand'. Our secret weapon is 'time'. Compared to corcordiles, retail investor has advantages of time compared to the pressure of corcordiles to deliver. |
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Dec 20 2014, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 01:41 PM) I concluded my view points on the one who can sapu the money from stock market. Retail investors should have the competencies on, lol.. ur how low is low? there is no exact answer lo. and what price you wish to sell for? at least how many percent profit/loss? got buy for sure got sell ma, unless u wan to save to ur next gen 1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy. 2) Sell. Investment is not completed until you sell your share for profit. Share is designed to go up naturally, not go down. 3) Safeguard investment. Your money starts to be disappeared when you 'buy'... feed your remiser, security firm, government....many other reasons. Invest your 'time' to safeguard your money and wisely play on 'timing'. Retail investors have lack of resources (money compared to EPF and fund managers) and team (human resources to do a large amount of analysis, watch the market and network). Hard to influence the market with 'supply and demand'. Our secret weapon is 'time'. Compared to corcordiles, retail investor has advantages of time compared to the pressure of corcordiles to deliver. yup indeed time spent on it. but how long the time spent for how many percent profit? 10yrs for 5% annually? lol. |
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Dec 20 2014, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 19 2014, 10:38 AM) Nicorp 11 am show? What show ? |
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Dec 20 2014, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Carls_Nemesis @ Dec 20 2014, 09:08 PM) lol.. ur how low is low? there is no exact answer lo. and what price you wish to sell for? at least how many percent profit/loss? got buy for sure got sell ma, unless u wan to save to ur next gen Value investing. Understand the historic volatility of share price and make own prediction quantitatively. Decide market timing to buy with patient. All share is unique with different business nature. Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price. yup indeed time spent on it. but how long the time spent for how many percent profit? 10yrs for 5% annually? lol. Ask simple question, if u aim for 5% profit within T+3, who will buy your shares within 3 days to give you profit? |
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Dec 20 2014, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:23 PM) Value investing. Understand the historic volatility of share price and make own prediction quantitatively. Decide market timing to buy with patient. All share is unique with different business nature. Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price. U use the big word of Value Investing..but explaining more in TA manner..... Ask simple question, if u aim for 5% profit within T+3, who will buy your shares within 3 days to give you profit? If a company profit is ever increasing ,,then no need to buy at low price.....and FA should be used for the identification of earning vs price u pay for.. Low price u buy but Co could be heading towards a loss making year maybe like some O & G.stocks ..therefore not cheap at all.. On the other hand ..higher price u pay for ...cos u think the co profit could be double ..or 50% more in future..therefore making it relatively cheap in the future.. It comes down to your own judgments......i.e the ability to judge .. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 20 2014, 10:48 PM |
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Dec 20 2014, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 20 2014, 10:29 PM) U use the big word of Value Investing..but explaining more in TA manner..... Value investing is an investment strategy to buy the share, which the value of a company (asset etc) are undervalued in the current share price. It is good to study the annual report of company, news and friends in the company. It is easier to evaluate a company in your industry and closely related industry. Risk is lower due to your understanding of their business nature.Share is unique and investor is also unique. Not all shares are suitable for all investors. |
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Dec 20 2014, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:49 PM) Value investing is an investment strategy to buy the share, which the value of a company (asset etc) are undervalued in the current share price. It is good to study the annual report of company, news and friends in the company. It is easier to evaluate a company in your industry and closely related industry. Risk is lower due to your understanding of their business nature. So u see U contradict yourself with the opening statement of Low Price....earlier Share is unique and investor is also unique. Not all shares are suitable for all investors. " Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price" " 1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy." An undervalued stock does not mean it is LOW Price.....it is the " Worth" of the money u pay for..... A Simple example is u pay rm one for the share..then your analysis shows the stock is worth rm 5..per share ...so in simple term it is undervalued.. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 20 2014, 11:10 PM |
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Dec 21 2014, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 20 2014, 10:51 PM) So u see U contradict yourself with the opening statement of Low Price....earlier Buy low =/= buy undervalue . " Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price" " 1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy." An undervalued stock does not mean it is LOW Price.....it is the " Worth" of the money u pay for..... A Simple example is u pay rm one for the share..then your analysis shows the stock is worth rm 5..per share ...so in simple term it is undervalued.. Cost of a product manufactured in bulk at RM 1.00. Retail customer buy at RM 1.20. Supplier A buy at RM 0.90 and supplier B buy at RM 0.80. Both A and B buy undervalued product. A expects profit RM 0.30 and B expects profit RM 0.40. B buy low. Manufacturer sell to transfer the responsibilities to buyer and to complete the investment. B can sell to A and retail customer to get profit. A can sell to retail customer and compete with B. C, D, E, F coming in ....... Manufacturer may cheat. Cost is RM 0.70. Manufacturer has pressure to hold product and must create a buy good environment. Buyer decides 'timing' to buy or not to buy based on scientific judgment (fact, figures, experiences, news, comparison etc). |
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Dec 21 2014, 02:27 PM
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how tomorrow performance would be.. KLCI continue upwards or drop
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Dec 21 2014, 02:32 PM
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confirm green all this week!
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Dec 21 2014, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 21 2014, 02:32 PM) confirm green all this week! So sure ? Base on ? |
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Dec 21 2014, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 21 2014, 05:33 PM) So sure ? Base on ? last rally, US green. U want red tomorrow? oil price adjusting 57. wont be tat 3 point green, just small one. |
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Dec 21 2014, 02:50 PM
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veli good ah like this
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Dec 21 2014, 03:42 PM
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straight 1 week green oso only index stocks then u sienz max. lol
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Dec 22 2014, 09:45 AM
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Good morning.....
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Dec 22 2014, 10:38 AM
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Good morning, quiet morning...
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Dec 22 2014, 10:54 AM
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Any sifus here looking at EG? Been rising since last week
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Dec 22 2014, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 21 2014, 05:33 PM) So sure ? Base on ? soo it was greeen |
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Dec 22 2014, 02:01 PM
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Green until everyone is speechless
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Dec 22 2014, 02:24 PM
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haha times like this is boring >< oh well. what's ur take? Sell and wait for the bust next year, or buy and catch the recovery?
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Dec 22 2014, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 22 2014, 02:24 PM) haha times like this is boring >< oh well. what's ur take? Sell and wait for the bust next year, or buy and catch the recovery? I was anticipating a crash and sitting 50% cash+bonds, 40% local equity, 10% HK/China equity. Too bad rebound happened Looks like I will wait for the bust. Not believing this "recovery" |
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Dec 22 2014, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 15 2014, 11:21 PM) I am making a prediction: As a follow up, till now no weakness in the market spotted yet, so continue to hold on for more profits.Property counters will rebound tomorrow. |
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Dec 22 2014, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 22 2014, 03:50 PM) As a follow up, till now no weakness in the market spotted yet, so continue to hold on for more profits. ROE is the same regardless which market price u buy ROE would not tell u the " cheapness" of a stock by referring to the market price ......... So nothing to shout about........... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 22 2014, 04:37 PM |
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Dec 22 2014, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 22 2014, 04:36 PM) ROE is the same regardless which market price u buy so that's how you attain 22k postings but replying out of context? ROE would not tell u the " cheapness" of a stock by referring to the market price ......... So nothing to shout about........... (no further reply) |
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Dec 22 2014, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 22 2014, 04:40 PM) so that's how you attain 22k postings but replying out of context? Then u ask me Q of ROE for what (no further reply) Next time U do not simply open your mouth and shoot me the Q .. I should ignore u too ......for good This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Dec 22 2014, 04:50 PM |
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Dec 22 2014, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 22 2014, 04:40 PM) so that's how you attain 22k postings but replying out of context? HALO WORLD!(no further reply) i want to make a small prediction.. hmm.. if tomorow market doesnt go up, i predict it will 100% go down.. mark my posting ya.. p.s: this is how i up the counter.. being "SMART-S" |
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Dec 22 2014, 06:20 PM
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Hi Sky Gor, may i ask for your expert opinion? Why when the market rebounds, certain property counters like Tambun INdah can rebound faster (and sharper) compared to SymLife? SymLife price seems to be quite slow when rebounding....any comments?
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Dec 22 2014, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(alvinlcf @ Dec 22 2014, 05:15 PM) HALO WORLD! i want to make a small prediction.. hmm.. if tomorow market doesnt go up, i predict it will 100% go down.. mark my posting ya.. p.s: this is how i up the counter.. being "SMART-S"  and my prediction: if market doesnt go down, i predict it will 100% go up. |
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Dec 22 2014, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Dec 22 2014, 07:08 PM) and my prediction: if market doesnt go down, i predict it will 100% go up. This reminds me of La La Chong - the football pundit - appearing on 92.8 Hits FM. This post has been edited by kancs3118: Dec 22 2014, 09:08 PM |
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Dec 22 2014, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 22 2014, 05:01 PM) Green until everyone is speechless http://www.businessinsider.com/r-saudis-na...ls-mees-2014-12shall we ride it down to $20? |
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Dec 22 2014, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Dec 22 2014, 06:49 PM) I was anticipating a crash and sitting 50% cash+bonds, 40% local equity, 10% HK/China equity. Too bad rebound happened dead cat rebound Looks like I will wait for the bust. Not believing this "recovery" |
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Dec 23 2014, 08:10 AM
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Quite disappointed to see green color during xmas season
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Dec 23 2014, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 22 2014, 11:07 PM) shale oil producers have become the new 'swing producers' in the global oil market as production can be turned on & off more easily than conventional oil producers. OPEC call on them to cut production but OPEC themselves do not want to do it. In the future, the ceiling price of oil should be around USD50 to USD60. |
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Dec 23 2014, 10:22 AM
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Wah.. keep on add fire on oil issue
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Dec 23 2014, 10:48 AM
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Property sector take profit, Icon rebound strongly.
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Dec 23 2014, 10:58 AM
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Icon from rm 1.80 to below 0.80... how to rebound ?
This is like megb IPO.. rm4 if i am not wrong ?? |
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Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM
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Super quiet, until I tot oil already crash to RM20/barrel...
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Dec 23 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM) Super quiet, until I tot oil already crash to RM20/barrel... usually quiet in forum, indicating green day..vice versa.. usd20/barrel --> all shouting d This post has been edited by alvinlcf: Dec 23 2014, 11:17 AM |
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Dec 23 2014, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 23 2014, 10:58 AM) Icon from rm 1.80 to below 0.80... how to rebound ? how? when it close at => 0.79 it would trigger eod buyers?This is like megb IPO.. rm4 if i am not wrong ?? when price diverge against financial data which is looking good? i don't know , but let's see. |
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Dec 23 2014, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM) Super quiet, until I tot oil already crash to RM20/barrel... Not Rupiah 20 |
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Dec 23 2014, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM) Super quiet, until I tot oil already crash to RM20/barrel... Soon will be free ... dun worry |
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Dec 23 2014, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(alvinlcf @ Dec 23 2014, 11:16 AM) usually quiet in forum, indicating green day.. u can really read my mind vice versa.. usd20/barrel --> all shouting d |
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Dec 23 2014, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 23 2014, 11:41 AM) Not Rupiah 20 good time to do some shopping... when others fear... no? |
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Dec 23 2014, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Dec 23 2014, 02:18 PM) good time to do some shopping... when others fear... no? Ya ...buy when there is abundant of Fear..and Sell when Hope is abundant ..For those who bought Armada at rm One oledi enjoy the fruits...... |
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Dec 23 2014, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 23 2014, 05:33 PM) Ya ...buy when there is abundant of Fear..and Sell when Hope is abundant .. AK wann throw away due to operational issue For those who bought Armada at rm One oledi enjoy the fruits...... i see red in oil gas counter |
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Dec 23 2014, 03:50 PM
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im waiting to scoop....... but not get it just as yet ....... nevermind i can wait....
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Dec 23 2014, 03:53 PM
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To succeed, jump as quickly at opportunities as you do at conclusions - benjamin franklin
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Dec 23 2014, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 23 2014, 03:53 PM) To succeed, jump as quickly at opportunities as you do at conclusions - benjamin franklin copy and paste |
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Dec 23 2014, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM) Super quiet, until I tot oil already crash to RM20/barrel... If that happens, there will be a fire sale. |
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Dec 23 2014, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 23 2014, 02:33 PM) Ya ...buy when there is abundant of Fear..and Sell when Hope is abundant .. The stock fell from >Rm2.00 to Rm1.00For those who bought Armada at rm One oledi enjoy the fruits...... Those who bought at RM1.80, Rm1.60, Rm1.40, Rm1.20 also take advantage of "fear".... Only the last/lucky one that manage to fish at bottom enjoy the fruit. So now is full of hope or fear? |
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Dec 23 2014, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 23 2014, 04:04 PM) The stock fell from >Rm2.00 to Rm1.00 Well, it is not that easy to fish at the bottom either.Those who bought at RM1.80, Rm1.60, Rm1.40, Rm1.20 also take advantage of "fear".... Only the last/lucky one that manage to fish at bottom enjoy the fruit. So now is full of hope or fear? |
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Dec 23 2014, 04:33 PM
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TMClife going to bring the olden days back to the market?
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Dec 23 2014, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 23 2014, 04:04 PM) The stock fell from >Rm2.00 to Rm1.00 Wait for it to stabilize before u catch..IT ...Rm One plus 3 sen or so..Those who bought at RM1.80, Rm1.60, Rm1.40, Rm1.20 also take advantage of "fear".... Only the last/lucky one that manage to fish at bottom enjoy the fruit. So now is full of hope or fear? If a stock would not become a permanent penny stock...then it stands good chance for it to move up ..aka uptrend.. My thinking is if Oil drops until Dow collapses , then it defeats its own purpose of suffocating Russian Economy ... 50 to 60 level is deemed to be safe for a period of time... BTW Dow is also fearful of further drop in Oil price.......plenty of Oil Bonds may go bust too.. |
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Dec 23 2014, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 23 2014, 04:47 PM) Wait for it to stabilize before u catch..IT ...Rm One plus 3 sen or so.. If the stock is not going down below RM1.00, it stands good chance to move up... If a stock would not become a permanent penny stock...then it stands good chance for it to move up ..aka uptrend.. My thinking is if Oil drops until Dow collapses , then it defeats its own purpose of suffocating Russian Economy ... 50 to 60 level is deemed to be safe for a period of time... BTW Dow is also fearful of further drop in Oil price.......plenty of Oil Bonds may go bust too.. No difference as if it is not going down, it will move up. A pre-requisite talk feature to become analysts, TV pundit, talk gurus etc. Oil drop won't cause Dow to collapse one. In fact oil price drop is like tax cut for US people. US economy is about consumer. If consumer have more money, then it is good for economy. |
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Dec 23 2014, 05:30 PM
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KLCI closed up five points or 0.29% to 1,749.05. Turnover was 1.511 billion shares valued at RM1.665bil. There were 281 gainers, 541 decliners and 247 counters unchanged.
Reuters reported a holiday hush settled over Asian markets on Tuesday after Wall Street closed at historic highs while oil prices recouped just a little of the losses suffered when Saudi Arabia quashed all thought of curbing supply. Equity investors chose to focus on the benefits that falling fuel prices would have for consumer spending power, it said. |
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Dec 23 2014, 06:40 PM
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US trying to suffocate Russia, but is this piece of news
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-22/c...rency-swap.html will help them breathe a little? |
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Dec 23 2014, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 23 2014, 07:03 PM) If that happens, there will be a fire sale. if they are empty shell. then yeah.. fire saleQUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 23 2014, 07:04 PM) The stock fell from >Rm2.00 to Rm1.00 Those who bought at RM1.80, Rm1.60, Rm1.40, Rm1.20 also take advantage of "fear".... Only the last/lucky one that manage to fish at bottom enjoy the fruit. So now is full of hope or fear? QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 23 2014, 08:12 PM) If the stock is not going down below RM1.00, it stands good chance to move up... there is global consumer No difference as if it is not going down, it will move up. A pre-requisite talk feature to become analysts, TV pundit, talk gurus etc. Oil drop won't cause Dow to collapse one. In fact oil price drop is like tax cut for US people. US economy is about consumer. If consumer have more money, then it is good for economy. <proxy> shipping.anyway guys. http://www.businessinsider.com/a-fantastic...-stocks-2014-12 so now buy time? |
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Dec 23 2014, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 23 2014, 10:07 PM) if they are empty shell. then yeah.. fire sale Locally, many oil stocks generally are not dirt "cheap", but drop from expensive to now more reasonable/bargain level of teen number PE. there is global consumer <proxy> shipping.anyway guys. http://www.businessinsider.com/a-fantastic...-stocks-2014-12 so now buy time? But some oil stocks like Petdag, Petgas still rather expensive if look at PE number. But their stock price hold up relative up due to many "support". So it depends what oil stock then, some with high gearing, high USD borrowing which may need to make provision for forex difference that may hit the P&L as well. With oil price plunging, those O&G company with due debt one may find banks want higher interest rate for refinancing. |
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Dec 23 2014, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 24 2014, 01:42 AM) Locally, many oil stocks generally are not dirt "cheap", but drop from expensive to now more reasonable/bargain level of teen number PE. Of cos cannot drop dirt cheap else everyone also gonna snap or something happen like 2008But some oil stocks like Petdag, Petgas still rather expensive if look at PE number. But their stock price hold up relative up due to many "support". So it depends what oil stock then, some with high gearing, high USD borrowing which may need to make provision for forex difference that may hit the P&L as well. With oil price plunging, those O&G company with due debt one may find banks want higher interest rate for refinancing. thus...there is still room for shopping.. commodity as we speaking is turning red..again. |
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Dec 24 2014, 09:13 AM
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Local n FF are the net buyers yesterday...weird
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Dec 24 2014, 10:54 AM
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Dec 24 2014, 11:14 AM
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Christmas eve la abang...
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Dec 24 2014, 02:21 PM
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Merry Christmas!
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Dec 24 2014, 04:26 PM
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Merry Christmas!
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Dec 24 2014, 04:41 PM
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Hapi Holiday everyone & Merry Christmas!
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Dec 25 2014, 11:17 PM
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merry christmas~
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Dec 26 2014, 11:44 AM
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not very merry for people in the northern peninsula..
Watery Chirstmas |
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Dec 26 2014, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 26 2014, 11:44 AM) not very merry for people in the northern peninsula.. N mayb a wet new year Watery Chirstmas |
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Dec 26 2014, 12:19 PM
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48,447 posts Joined: Sep 2014 From: REality
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sleep time
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Dec 26 2014, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Dec 26 2014, 11:48 AM) N mayb a wet new year wet poor year... |
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Dec 26 2014, 01:29 PM
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So ironic. Earlier so dry until water supply disrupted, now too much rain already.
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Dec 26 2014, 02:54 PM
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who is in awc btw?
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Dec 26 2014, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Dec 26 2014, 01:29 PM) So ironic. Earlier so dry until water supply disrupted, now too much rain already. When no rain.. everyone pray so hard for rain..now rain come.. until overflowing.. and people are praying to stop the rain, want sunshine days.. |
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Dec 26 2014, 03:24 PM
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When crude oil going up.. everyone is shouting in suffer.
Now crude oil shoot down.. everyone seems to be shouting in suffering also for crude to go back up.. hahaha 神又是你,鬼又是你 |
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Dec 26 2014, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 26 2014, 03:24 PM) When crude oil going up.. everyone is shouting in suffer. Damn true Now crude oil shoot down.. everyone seems to be shouting in suffering also for crude to go back up.. hahaha 神又是你,鬼又是你 |
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Dec 26 2014, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 26 2014, 03:24 PM) When crude oil going up.. everyone is shouting in suffer. so damn true Now crude oil shoot down.. everyone seems to be shouting in suffering also for crude to go back up.. hahaha 神又是你,鬼又是你 apa lagi lu mau This post has been edited by nexona88: Dec 26 2014, 05:55 PM |
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Dec 26 2014, 08:50 PM
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Hi, I would like to ask a question for those who had trade in the 1998 Asian Crisis, back in those days, do you guy still remember what's the margin share financing rate are like? Now i think is around 50-60% margin for share. Thanks
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Dec 28 2014, 03:11 PM
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tomorrow. airasia down.
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Dec 28 2014, 03:13 PM
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691 posts Joined: Nov 2009 From: Klang | Sibu
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panic sell
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Dec 28 2014, 03:15 PM
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confirm panic sell on AirAsia. Maybe limit down?
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Dec 28 2014, 03:53 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
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Financial losses is limited coz it hold 49% equity in Indo ntity
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Dec 28 2014, 04:59 PM
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How about tune insurance? Are they the one insuring the plane and passengers?
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Dec 28 2014, 05:11 PM
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Haizh.. malaysia malaysia malaysia. 2014 is a plague year.
flood landslide 1st mas, 2nd mas, 3rd airasia economy also no good now rumor got tsunami visiting also.. |
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Dec 28 2014, 07:39 PM
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国 運 當 哀
呜 呼 衰 哉 1. MH 370 2. MH 17 3. Collapse of CPO prices 4. Collapse of oil prices 5. Severe floods 6. Mounting country debts 7. Falling MYR relative to US$ 8. Continuing poor economic management by government 9. Corruption, leakages, and wattages continue unabated. 10. Extremists expressing extreme views on race and religion. 11. Ineffective leadership in government. |
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Dec 28 2014, 10:13 PM
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karma is karma..there was good time..sure there is bad time.
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Dec 28 2014, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(cpng75 @ Dec 28 2014, 07:39 PM) 国 運 當 哀 In ancient China, all these would mean the ruling dynasty had lost the Mandate from Heaven. 呜 呼 衰 哉 1. MH 370 2. MH 17 3. Collapse of CPO prices 4. Collapse of oil prices 5. Severe floods 6. Mounting country debts 7. Falling MYR relative to US$ 8. Continuing poor economic management by government 9. Corruption, leakages, and wattages continue unabated. 10. Extremists expressing extreme views on race and religion. 11. Ineffective leadership in government. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Dec 28 2014, 10:41 PM |
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Dec 28 2014, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 01:40 AM) In ancient China, all these would mean the ruling dynasty had lost the Mandate from Heaven. |
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