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 -+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V53-+♠+-, Continue to be slowpoke...

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iskazulka
post Feb 27 2015, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(StarburstMz @ Feb 26 2015, 10:16 PM)
Yea want to get steel braided hose to reduce the spongy feel
What is the price range for pro rs ya?
Wonder if its worth to get super circuit one as it provide limited lifetime warranty
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what raimy_m9 did about the spongy feel is change disk brake.
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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Feb 24 2015, 05:20 PM)
oh yah, my spongy feeling brake gone after i changed disc..waddahek.. if i know earlier, i would have change it much much earlier(now car another few months to 4 years).. so scary man, press on brake, it won't stop..step harder it will lock..there's no bite feeling at all..unlike other car....even during rain, during braking on dusct/sands etc.. if someone e-brake in front of me i would be able to stop in time..lel..

new disc, i can even late braking..haha
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post Feb 27 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 12:07 PM)
what raimy_m9 did about the spongy feel is change disk brake.
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well that's for me, actually i still feel a bit spongy/lembut just lesser..and i could feel strong braking force/bite(i feel more condident while driving and tailgating..haha) and i think it's better this way cos my persona doesn't come with abs....for other's they changed to double layer servo, and it will have more braking force, just tap a bit on the brake and it will bite..


my plan for next few months, is to change to double layer servo.not sure what's the cost, around 200 maybe..
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post Feb 27 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 12:07 PM)
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actually, just change the brake servo from single to double will do.., and i think the standard oem disc also crap..lol..
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post Feb 27 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Feb 27 2015, 01:31 PM)
well that's for me, actually i still feel a bit spongy/lembut just lesser..and i could feel strong braking force/bite(i feel more condident while driving and tailgating..haha) and i think it's better this way cos my persona doesn't come with abs....for other's they changed to double layer servo, and it will have more braking force, just tap a bit on the brake and it will bite..
my plan for next few months, is to change to double layer servo.not sure what's the cost, around 200 maybe..
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what about steel braided thingy then? and changing better brake pads will help?
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 02:38 PM)
what about steel braided thingy then? and changing better brake pads will help?
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hmm..steel braided not sure, but i know steel braided does not swell/expand during pressure unlike rubber one,and steel braided somewhat gives firmer feel to the pedal, and that does not necessarily increase your stopping power/or braking force. better ask someone expert lah..

i changed my brakepad twice on the original rotor, first i changed to bendix metal king titanium, and then i changed the normal bendix; bendix general ct. both brakepad types perform the same on the original rotor. very poor and spongy. after i had changed the rotor, then i can feel the bite on this bedix general ct. i went back kampung(kelantan) a few times already with this new rotor, and i must say, it performs well.it does not easily lock up during dry and wet road..i can do late braking(not that late la).i must say, overall i feel confident when cruising 140-180 in karak highway or genting.or tailgating.haha. . it is much much better on this new rotor.


first thing first, our persona without rear disc brake is installed with gen2 1.3 brake pump. the persona with rear disc perform a bit better...well in my opinion, to increase the braking force, you need a bigger pump...thus why people when they changed to double layer servo brake pump, light tap on the brake you already can feel the bite.

ps: i'm using 17inch 215/45/17, before this only rim pasu bunga...that time my braking really worst...haha.lel.
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:33 PM

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previously owned persona, actually stock pads with stock disk is good enough, at least for normal owners like me. didn't feel spongy. (i didn't know the spongy feel like you guys said earlier).
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:35 PM

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i need more power..can't even keep up with exora turbo..haha..kena tinggal
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 03:33 PM)
previously owned persona, actually stock pads with stock disk is good enough, at least for normal owners like me. didn't feel spongy. (i didn't know the spongy feel like you guys said earlier).
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high line? all 4 disc? all 4 disc should be okay..but without rear disc, that one memang spongy.. need to brake from afar.lel..someone emergerncy brake infront, you see la whether can brake in time or not..haha..i kena, myvi masuk my lane and brake..i couldn't brake in time..tekan brake very hard, tapi ia tak mahu berhenti.. haha..habis rosak kereta..lel
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 03:33 PM)
previously owned persona, actually stock pads with stock disk is good enough, at least for normal owners like me. didn't feel spongy. (i didn't know the spongy feel like you guys said earlier).
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u so fc-conscious not driving as fast as raimy mar, see the speed he saying. u concentrating on showing the good fc-figure after run i still remember...
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Feb 27 2015, 04:43 PM)
high line? all 4 disc? all 4 disc should be okay..but without rear disc, that one memang spongy.. need to brake from afar.lel..someone emergerncy brake infront, you see la whether can brake in time or not..haha..i kena, myvi masuk my lane and brake..i couldn't brake in time..tekan brake very hard, tapi ia tak mahu berhenti.. haha..habis rosak kereta..lel
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standard persona. i drive within speed limit. and usually i drive withing 2-3 car distance.
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 03:46 PM)
standard persona. i drive within speed limit. and usually i drive withing 2-3 car distance.
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yeah..i also drive within the speed limit and usually giving 2-3 car distance. ..and then i got into accident while i was travelling not even 60kmh and this myvi swerve mask from most most right to middle lane and brake...i couldn't even brake in time.
driving in kl where got many idiots..

i break speed limit usually on highway.but then, the road to kelantan mana ada highway macam plus highway or highway pantai timur tu..lel.


ps: standard persona? which one?

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post Feb 27 2015, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 27 2015, 03:45 PM)
u so fc-conscious not driving as fast as raimy mar, see the speed he saying. u concentrating on showing the good fc-figure after run i still remember...
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lol you see many complaints on persona brake system..spongy, can't brake in time, need to brake from afar..lel.no need so fast la..try emergency brake from 60, see how la..the car won't even have this bite feelings..and can't even brake in time. need to always aware and cautious..like i always did before..
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Feb 27 2015, 04:52 PM)
yeah..i also drive within the speed limit and usually giving 2-3 car distance. ..and then i got into accident while i was travelling not even 60kmh and this myvi swerve mask from most most right to middle lane and brake...i couldn't even brake in time.
driving in kl where got many idiots..

i break speed limit usually on highway.but then, the road to kelantan mana ada highway macam plus highway or highway pantai timur tu..lel.
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for that case even got super god brake spec also cannot help you.

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post Feb 27 2015, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 27 2015, 04:45 PM)
u so fc-conscious not driving as fast as raimy mar, see the speed he saying. u concentrating on showing the good fc-figure after run i still remember...
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no, that time ayam not concentration on FC. it just that i am just that kind of driver. drive slow and steady. so, stock brake system is just ok for me.
drive 110km/h on highway is not fc conscious btw.
btw, i feel stock saga brake is better whistling.gif

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post Feb 27 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Feb 27 2015, 03:55 PM)
lol you see many complaints on persona brake system..spongy, can't brake in time, need to brake from afar..lel.no need so fast la..try emergency brake from 60, see how la..the car won't even have this bite feelings..and can't even brake in time. need to always aware and cautious..like i always did before..
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yes, no e-brake's kind of braking force feel. so i either fast drop down gear or shift to neutral...

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 04:00 PM)
no, that time ayam not concentration on FC. it just that i am just that kind of driver. drive slow and steady. so, stock brake system is just ok for me.
drive 110km/h on highway is not fc conscious btw.
btw, i feel stock saga brake is better  whistling.gif
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ic, same like me, obeyed to traffic and no feel the need for speed. blush.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 03:56 PM)
for that case even got super god brake spec also cannot help you.
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well, i believe it can. the problem with spongy brake like i mention before, you tap the brake, it won't stop..no bite feeling..it just will stop slowly, you give it more force, it will slow down a bit more, then you tap harder, until at some point it will lock..deswai you need to brake from afar..even when you drive slowly. lel, even when driving at 30kmh, i hard braking also will take longer distance than other cars with good brake

i tested inspira and new altis last month, lightly tap on the brake it bite and want to stop. same feeling as my wira with gsr brake..
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post Feb 27 2015, 04:07 PM

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dares ur comments needed (by me lol)
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post Feb 27 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 27 2015, 05:03 PM)
yes, no e-brake's kind of braking force feel. so i either fast drop down gear or shift to neutral...
ic, same like me, obeyed to traffic and no feel the need for speed. blush.gif
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don;t copy me, can u? mad.gif whistling.gif
are u funker like me? whistling.gif

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post Feb 27 2015, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 27 2015, 04:08 PM)
don;t copy me, can u? mad.gif  whistling.gif
are u funker like me?  whistling.gif
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who copy who? bruce.gif
my car not stable + no titanium ball so cannot move fast mar. blush.gif

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