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voscar
post Mar 15 2015, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(mingwei1992 @ Mar 15 2015, 06:53 PM)
I can shift to d just that at my dashboard it doesn't show and when u press accelerator it doesn't move means gear is not shifted. 1 day and half day old lol
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wow, never heard of this kind of issue, maybe isolated case. hmm.gif
it's better you take video showing the gear level and dashboard, together with you revving car cannot move before you go SC. Show them so they have a clearer picture of what's wrong.
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post Mar 15 2015, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 15 2015, 07:00 PM)
wow, never heard of this kind of issue, maybe isolated case. hmm.gif
it's better you take video showing the gear level and dashboard, together with you revving car cannot move before you go SC. Show them so they have a clearer picture of what's wrong.
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I'll try if it happens again. So lucky man haha. Mayb some sensors or electronic problem. That's what I feel since I can shift the gear just it doesn't appear

I'll try go sc where I bought the car at tomorrow morning and see how.

This post has been edited by mingwei1992: Mar 15 2015, 07:04 PM
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post Mar 15 2015, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Mar 14 2015, 11:07 PM)
Just now saw sifu ZenGTMM and sifu Xandras's cars..  brows.gif
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itu 2 lejen sifu in persona thread

QUOTE(mingwei1992 @ Mar 15 2015, 03:17 PM)
Yup! Thank you. Reverse sensor sound a bit too low. Nearly hit wall couz music was quite loud. Lucky got see properly
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sound system too good isit? tongue.gif

QUOTE(mingwei1992 @ Mar 15 2015, 05:17 PM)
Scared d

I think I just got 1st issue with my car cry.gif
Sometimes cannot engage to drive when shifting from n or p. Set any idea? Will send it to sc to have a look soon
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yea take back to SC to rectify the problem

QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 15 2015, 06:42 PM)
our automatic gear shouldn't have such problem as it doesn't have shift lock like some other "expensive" car.
but sometime i do "feel" there is more resistant than usual when shifting from P > R. What i "automatically" do is i release foot brake, then reapply foot brake again and use "more" force to pull it down... not unusual as it still can shift, maybe just "feeling"...
how old is your car? new car shouldn't have this problem. send to SC complain if it's still under warranty.
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u put to "P" after parking your car then only you pull the handbrake right ( engage to P when you stopped car > release foot brake > pull hand brake > turn engine off)?
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post Mar 15 2015, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Mar 15 2015, 10:14 PM)
u put to "P" after parking your car then only you pull the handbrake right ( engage to P when you stopped car > release foot brake > pull hand brake > turn engine off)?
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P > pull handbrake > release foot brake > off engine.
How come you release foot brake then only pull handbrake? Isn't that stressing the P gear lockpin?
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post Mar 16 2015, 02:17 AM

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my persona clutch sometimes hard sometimes soft? whats the prob?
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post Mar 16 2015, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(headbangers88 @ Mar 16 2015, 02:17 AM)
my persona clutch sometimes hard sometimes soft? whats the prob?
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When was the last time you change the brake fluid?
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post Mar 16 2015, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Mar 16 2015, 02:22 AM)
When was the last time you change the brake fluid?
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brake fluid???

never.

my mileage almost 100k.

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mingwei1992
post Mar 16 2015, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Mar 15 2015, 10:14 PM)
sound system too good isit? tongue.gif
yea take back to SC to rectify the problem

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I guess sensor sound too soft haha
Yea in sc now. Early morningmorning

They reset the error for me said that if issue happen again then will have replace some sensor at gear there o.o

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post Mar 16 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 15 2015, 10:28 PM)
P > pull handbrake > release foot brake > off engine.
How come you release foot brake then only pull handbrake? Isn't that stressing the P gear lockpin?
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my style D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > P > off engine
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post Mar 16 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2015, 10:48 AM)
my style D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > P > off engine
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weird.
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post Mar 16 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2015, 09:48 AM)
my style D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > P > off engine
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i used to continental audi style edi (ex-family car), without foot brake it will not allow you to shift out from N, not possible to shift from N > P at all.
This is safety feature for audi since they also have the "unintended acceleration" case at 1980s which manufacturer blame it's driver fault of not applying foot brake when shifting gear. so 1980s-2000s audi car will have "always apply foot brake when shifting to driving range" wording either beside gear shifter console, or display on meter cluster like C5 A6.
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post Mar 16 2015, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(mingwei1992 @ Mar 16 2015, 08:26 AM)
I guess sensor sound too soft haha
Yea in sc now. Early morningmorning

They reset the error for me said that if issue happen again then will have replace some sensor at gear there o.o
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i somehow feel it's not as easy as "resetting" per your problem description. it's some sensor wasn't able to detect at the time when you shifting gear.
resetting is more likely for auto gear shifting algorithm at your driving on D range or error code only.
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post Mar 16 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 15 2015, 10:28 PM)
P > pull handbrake > release foot brake > off engine.
How come you release foot brake then only pull handbrake? Isn't that stressing the P gear lockpin?
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This one stresses out the parking pin as well unless your car doesn't move at all once you release the foot brake.

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 16 2015, 09:54 AM)
weird.
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I do this all the time. Initially always applied p and hand brake together before releasing the foot brake, but I noticed that it causes the gear shift to be harder than usual + the car will move a little as you do this even with the hand brake on, showing that the car actually was held by the parking pin rather than the hand brake completely.

I don't apply P anymore however, since the Persona doesn't have any safety mechanism related to the gears.
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2015, 09:48 AM)
my style D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > P > off engine
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mine is P>releas a bit footbrake> handbrake>fully release footbrake>off engine
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post Mar 16 2015, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 16 2015, 09:57 AM)
i used to continental audi style edi (ex-family car), without foot brake it will not allow you to shift out from N, not possible to shift from N > P at all.
This is safety feature for audi since they also have the "unintended acceleration" case at 1980s which manufacturer blame it's driver fault of not applying foot brake when shifting gear. so 1980s-2000s audi car will have "always apply foot brake when shifting to driving range" wording either beside gear shifter console, or display on meter cluster like C5 A6.
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Of all my cars....only Persona don't have brake lock on the gearknob. Even Saga also has it.
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post Mar 16 2015, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 16 2015, 09:54 AM)
weird.
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Why weird? This is to ensure the car is resting on the handbrake, not your gearbox's parking brake.
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post Mar 16 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 16 2015, 10:03 AM)
i somehow feel it's not as easy as "resetting" per your problem description. it's some sensor wasn't able to detect at the time when you shifting gear.
resetting is more likely for auto gear shifting algorithm at your driving on D range or error code only.
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Yea error code only. Told me to monitor if its ever occur come back again to get the sensors replaced I think. Been driving it 4-5 times only occur 1 time after that no issues. Will continue monitor it. Will update from time to time here.
The sensor stuff is what is said by them.
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post Mar 16 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2015, 10:32 AM)
Of all my cars....only Persona don't have brake lock on the gearknob. Even Saga also has it.
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then for other car how u gonna do this?
"D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > P > off engine"
You release then reapply foot brake again before shifting to P?

oh yeah just found 1 of my friend will never pull handbrake unless it's on slope area and car will moves... he seems "forget" there's handbrake for use. sweat.gif

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post Mar 16 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2015, 11:33 AM)
Why weird? This is to ensure the car is resting on the handbrake, not your gearbox's parking brake.
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just weird to me because different method than mine. whistling.gif
maybe i should try your method later.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 15 2015, 10:28 PM)
P > pull handbrake > release foot brake > off engine.
How come you release foot brake then only pull handbrake? Isn't that stressing the P gear lockpin?
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follow dares suggestion...and try again c isit easy to shift out from P or not...
QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2015, 09:48 AM)
my style D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > P > off engine
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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 16 2015, 11:52 AM)
then for other car how u gonna do this?
"D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > P > off engine"
You release then reapply foot brake again before shifting to P?

oh yeah just found 1 of my friend will never pull handbrake unless it's on slope area and car will moves... he seems "forget" there's handbrake for use. sweat.gif
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"D > N > pull handbrake > release footbrake > press footbrake > P > off engine"

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