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aressandro10
post Dec 18 2014, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 18 2014, 06:22 PM)
Indicator yg sesuai ada kat sini, penilaian points and ranking dr afc.

Selalu main ch league, faktor plg utama in my opinion

Thailand ada dua kelab top 50 clubs in asia

Malaysia pon ada dua..tp top 100 la haha

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Kalau nak point byk ranking ni, kene club yg sama wakil liga kita.... Kalau ade tahun lopong droplah ranking...

Kelantan contohnye akan mula drop ranking.

So ranking ni gunanya untuk dapat easy draw nanti ke...?
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post Dec 18 2014, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Dec 18 2014, 10:31 AM)
actually, i have a soft spot dgn Thai. kalau kalah pon tak rasa kecewa sgt. inb4 ayam gay.

semalam time dorang main tiki taka i was like dayyum with obamanotbad.jpg.
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:13 PM

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post Dec 18 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 18 2014, 08:33 PM)
Kalau nak point byk ranking ni, kene club yg sama wakil liga kita.... Kalau ade tahun lopong droplah ranking...

Kelantan contohnye akan mula drop ranking.

So ranking ni gunanya untuk dapat easy draw nanti ke...?
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Yup kelantan dgn selangor akan drop definitely..the trick to push more local clubs to be onthe map tak lain x bkn adalah kita kena ada team masuk afc CL.

takdelah each year fix 2 team limited main afc .
So team kita akan prone to lopong.
Hopefully next 3-5 years kita dh boleh dpt 1 auto spot atleast.

Aku x sure how afc guna seedings dorang, different dr uefa yg lebih direct (weightage standard liga + final position league). Could be utk seeding jgk..

tp as usual aku suka amik any ranking ni just "indicator" kt mana kita..it certainly doesnt translates kekuatan sbnr team tu.
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:30 PM

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Sy redeem hampir pukul 6 tadi....hampir tutup......lellll...6 orang je dlm queue...
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(stimzzzz @ Dec 18 2014, 05:41 PM)
kenapalah Malaysia takleh main short passing game.....asyik long ball tuh pon tak menjadi aku oh ya, skiill level cam tuh  sweat.gif
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Our league doesnt play short pass that much, and more importantly our game pace is usually slow.look at our players, they have to look and think first before making a pass. The strength of short pass is speed, players reaction speed have to be fast. And our players just got use to slow tempo game most of the time.

But credit must be given to the current national team, and pablo dollah tongue.gif

They definately play faster game now compare to RG era. We can see more short pass, drible etc.
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post Dec 18 2014, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 18 2014, 09:17 PM)
Yup kelantan dgn selangor akan drop definitely..the trick to push more local clubs to be onthe map tak lain x bkn adalah kita kena ada team masuk afc CL.

takdelah each year fix 2 team limited main afc .
So team kita akan prone to lopong.
Hopefully next 3-5 years kita dh boleh dpt 1 auto spot atleast.

Aku x sure how afc guna seedings dorang, different dr uefa yg lebih direct (weightage standard liga + final position league). Could be utk seeding jgk..

tp as usual aku suka amik any ranking ni just "indicator" kt mana kita..it certainly doesnt translates kekuatan sbnr team tu.
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UEFA pon pakai individual performance club kat europe as seeding masa draw. Takde kaitan dgn league. Man city walaupun primier league champion tapi ranking seeding tetap rendah .

Ranking diguna sebagai "indicator" semata2 adelah approach yg betul...

Lebih baik pentingkan tournament sebenar..

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QUOTE(mclelun @ Dec 18 2014, 09:44 PM)
Our league doesnt play short pass that much, and more importantly our game pace is usually slow.look at our players, they have to look and think first before making a pass. The strength of short pass is speed, players reaction speed have to be fast. And our players just got use to slow tempo game most of the time.

But credit must be given to the current national team, and pablo dollah tongue.gif

They definately play faster game now compare to RG era. We can see more short pass, drible etc.
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That is true....tak ade satu pon team dalam liga super main macam thailand or vietnam....sumer nak main direct.... Tempo pon slow.... Kurang pressing...


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post Dec 18 2014, 11:17 PM

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Nape abe pablo dolah selalu lambat sub player?trust issue ke ape?
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post Dec 18 2014, 11:34 PM

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post Dec 18 2014, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 18 2014, 10:11 PM)
UEFA pon pakai individual performance club kat europe as seeding masa draw. Takde kaitan dgn league. Man city walaupun primier league champion tapi ranking seeding tetap rendah .

Ranking diguna sebagai "indicator" semata2 adelah approach yg betul...

Lebih baik pentingkan tournament sebenar..
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Eh i thought starting next season akan tukar seeding UEFA, sbb mancity selalu kena grup yg sial haha. Ke still in discussion? (yg ni aku x sure)
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 18 2014, 11:44 PM)
Eh i thought starting next season akan tukar seeding UEFA, sbb mancity selalu kena grup yg sial haha. Ke still in discussion?  (yg ni aku x sure)
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Tukar dh nnt. Juara liga je seeding

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post Dec 18 2014, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(sam.hajime @ Dec 18 2014, 11:17 PM)
Nape abe pablo dolah selalu lambat sub player?trust issue ke ape?
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Credit to him past 2 games lebih senonoh..tp since time grup lg orang marah pasal sub player. Tu aku x tau kenapa...


And sad truth is our subs bkn impact player. Dorang nak kena blend dgn pace game sme..not like schurrle w german. Masuk je terus boleh fit pace game tu.

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post Dec 19 2014, 12:13 AM

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Pernah gak team liga super try main dengan short pass tapi
pemain lawan main tackle keras plak..
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:22 AM

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Semalam Liverpool buat 51-pass move sebelum skor lawan Bournemouth. Thai buat hampir 30 tp nasib baik xskor.
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:24 AM

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Macamana kita nak stop Thai ni? Shut down their midfield completely? Still think Gary should be the enforcer to do that.
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Dec 18 2014, 07:17 AM)
Thai's player ball confidently godly level...

accurate short passing during press from opponent...
still able to pass although fall down...
positioning...

Huihs... memang on the different level...

Our defend doing a decent job tapi macam biasalah 75 minit keatas tahap concentration turun mendadak... Fadhli mistakes well punished by Thai's player...

Hopefully Pablo still turunkan set player yang sama... with gung-ho tactics... nothing to lose since we are trailing behind by 2 goals...

If 2nd half still no goals from our side... keluarkan Safiq... masukkan Manaf so Forward will be Amri-MatYo-Manaf... Azamudin Akil tukar Gary... Indra belakang  Amri-MatYo-Manaf... Piya keep pumping balls from midfield
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Still biarkan Farizal as GK since both goals bukan salah dia...

KALAUlah KALAU ada extra time... boleh tukar Farizal dengan Apek...
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post Dec 19 2014, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 18 2014, 11:51 PM)
Credit to him past 2 games lebih senonoh..tp since time grup lg orang marah pasal sub player. Tu aku x tau kenapa...
And sad truth is our subs bkn impact player. Dorang nak kena blend dgn pace game sme..not like schurrle w german. Masuk je terus boleh fit pace game tu.
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Kita xde pemain di bench yg boleh consider subs impact. Sbb tu dari awal lg, selection pemain sedikit mengecewakan. Bagi aku kecik, nazrin, farhan, ashaari boleh dikategorikan subs impact. Mereka ada pace, mereka ada ball control yg baik, dan boleh bg dimension lain dr segi crossing, cut back.

Badd okay cuma bila dh masuk lewat dan shape pasukan dh lari, apa sgt impact dia boleh buat. Mahali pun maybe boleh menyerlah kalau masuk main winger kanan bila alex dh xleh offer apa2 dh pada team. Mahali bertahan mmg out tp offensive agak bagus.

Tu yg agak x faham bila pablo lmbt bertindak. Mcm dia xtau waktu mana nk keluarkan pemain, nk tukar taktikal dan lebih kepada selagi x bolos, pemain yg ada kena stay sedangkan tunggu masa je kita nk bolos dan defend akan buat mistakes.

Ttg long ball plak, senang citenya sbb bila ada import mcm dickson, billy mehmet, figueroa, conti, etc yg lebih kepada target man, pemain amik jalan pintas utk cari target man. Kiranya xyah amik masa nk pass sebaliknya terus direct. Bukan x boleh main short pass tp dh jadi habit pemain kita sedangkan kelantan bawah karathu, boleh je main short pass. Itu maybe sbb karathu mmg dari dulu lagi main sistem 4-5-1 dan pentingkan possesion. Irfan bakti masa dgn terengganu pun boleh apply main short pass, hadi yahya manaf ashaari key players time tu. Boleh sebenarnya tp mentaliti coach n pemain tu sendiri kena ubah. Kalau tgk kepada set players yg ada, hanya beberapa pemain saja yg boleh fit dgn sistem short pass. Indra, matyo, piya, gary, tp bila bola dh sampai defend, amik kau, clear sejauh yg boleh, kalau nasib baik sampai striker dh boleh scored.

Big sam, mourinho pun dh boleh tukar method utk main cantik. West ham sapa sangka bawah big sam thn ni selamba boleh main attractive football.
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QUOTE(menj @ Dec 19 2014, 12:24 AM)
Macamana kita nak stop Thai ni? Shut down their midfield completely? Still think Gary should be the enforcer to do that.
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2-0 diorg lead, zico siam pasti akan main counter. Diorang tahu kita akan gung ho. Diorang muda, kelemahan xleh nk cope bila fans dibelakang pemain dan kita serang kaw2 bila start. Diorg bukan bagus mana jugak masa defending.

Jaranglah 2-0 boleh kalah tp yer la dlm bolasepak apapun boleh jadi. Bg aku gol awal akan bg siam gelabah dan diorang akan hilang shape. Tp jgn plak kita yg lepas gol awal. Haha

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