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post May 12 2022, 10:27 AM

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i was wondering on this scenario.

some bank are slow to reduce their BR during the reduction of OPR in 2020.

Some reduction of BR is not in tandem of OPR reduction, for eg OPR reduce 0.5, BR reduced by less than that.

and even OPR at a low of 1.75%, some of their BR are still quite high.

now as OPR eventually increase to, say 3%.

will it cause the total effective interest (BR+Spread) to be higher for housing loan applicants taking loan during
OPR 1.75% or OPR 3% before 2020?

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post May 14 2022, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(wulala26 @ May 13 2022, 06:56 PM)
Not sure how it works, but my current experience suggest my current loan offer will be better.

My scenario
Back in 2016 i was offered housing loan under affin BR + 0.76 ( Loan Value : RM 250k)

Last month, Affin offered for another loan at BR + 0.2.  (Loan Value : RM 500k)

The spread is the crucial factor here, not so much of the BR. 

Based on this the effective interest rate during OPR 1.75% seems cheaper.

Not sure if this scenario is applicable to all.
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Ya..

i was wondering on the spread.

will the bank increase the spread during their loan offerings when the BR is low, and lowers the spread while the BR is high or vise versa?

if it is so, as BR normalize there will be difference in total interest (BR + Spread)

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post May 14 2022, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 14 2022, 09:41 AM)
The spread will depend on the loan amount.

Overall if the loan amount is high, the bank is able to charge a slightly lower rate as more money will be earned from interest and vice versa.

The spread is to cover cost to manage the loan account.
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Back in 2016 i was offered housing loan under affin BR + 0.76 ( Loan Value : RM 250k)

Last month, Affin offered for another loan at BR + 0.2. (Loan Value : RM 500k)


so for this case shared by forumer, means the spread difference is caused by loan amount?

regardless of BR, the spread in fact not changed as much?
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post Nov 18 2023, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Nov 9 2023, 04:43 PM)
yes, so basically 2 steps to perform :-

1) if your interest is higher then 4.2%, its wise to initiate zero moving cost since you'll be getting lower interest and pay less in long run without incur any cost (under normal circumstance)

2) between choosing zero moving 4.2% or 3.9% but pay legal fees, most of the time choosing 3.9% are the best scenario....,unless you gonna settle your loan/sell the property immediately when the 5 years lock in period reach....
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current loan with PBB is 4.15% p.a.
600k loan.

previously when taken loan is 2.9% p.a which is relatively good deal that time,
but due to OPR increasing, its 4.15% p.a. now.

can we nego with the same bank to give a better rate?
or any other way to reduce the interest seeing the rate going now is around 3.8 to 3.9% p.a. ish
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post Nov 19 2023, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(dannychen @ Nov 18 2023, 10:29 PM)
Main one will be lawyer fees, valuation fees,processing fees. Paid RM7,400 after discounts.
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for my case 4.15%, vs 3.9%.
interest diff 0.25% pa.

come out to around RM125 /month diff assuming max loan amount 600k.

seem not worth looking at paying such huge amount to switch bank.

and those zero cost switching seem to yield a higher interest rate, not much diff then current 4.15%.

looking at cases of some forumer shared 4.22% p.a.
seem like its not that worth to take loan during low OPR compared to high OPR as the spread is higher during low OPR hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Apr 4 2024, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 3 2024, 08:33 AM)
310k savings liquid, well done sir. that's the right away to head into buying a property without much installment.

try to get a 650-700k house for your fam, and take up a 300-300k loan, that should only be around 1.2k/month repayment. that'd leave you with 1.8k spare cash per month.

well done again, and congrats for being a prudent saver.
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i don't think this is the correct strategy.
why put all liquid cash into the house for own stay?
you can't simply get that amount of money out.

imho, house for own stay is a liability and not asset.

the better way should be take max loan with semi-flexi (best is below 700k-ish looking at max 3k disposable income) since TS is having a fixed income,
go for full-flexi will be a waste as this will incur some monthly charges.

park all excess fund into the semi-flexi loan to offset interest.

in this way, TS will still hav access to the funds in case of need.

the monthly instalment could be higher in this way,
but if you park enough funds to offset interest, majority of the monthly instalment shall be used to pay the principal and not the interest.

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post Apr 4 2024, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 4 2024, 10:25 AM)
you make good sense here, agree
ts is nearing 40, of course he can get a flat for 170k, and installment of less than 1k/mth. but where is quality of life.

he needs to decide if he wants to stay on mainland or island, then if he wants a house or a condo or an apartment, then decide from there. for now, we can talk about everything under the sun.

i have reached a point in my life where one needs to treat ownself well, especially if it's your own house for old age, rather than saving every penny and be miserable living in a 800 sqf apartment, bigger is ok if you can afford it. if can't, that's another story.

investment isn't always number, it's also quality of life.
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well said tongue.gif tongue.gif

often some older generations ppl can't figure out this correctly.

they save every penny and live miserably.
eventually when the time comes, we can't bring any cent with us anyway
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post Aug 19 2024, 09:48 AM

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what is the average or best rate for ZERO cost moving?
loan amt 550k.

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