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post Feb 17 2015, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(syumul @ Feb 17 2015, 10:55 AM)
Yesterday i just book a new house launching using my name(abu) with rm2000 booking fee.
Everything when fine up until now. But suddenly i question myself.
I gonna used my wife(siti) loan(goverment loan).
so the question here is, is it ok?? Booked under abu name but used siti's loan.
The house obvioisly under her name.

Please clarify for me. Really need to know this ok or not..

i already open a thread but i think better ask here as this is loan specific thread.
hope somebody can answer me.
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Booking no problem, it is just a mutual understanding between you and the developer. You can easily switch the booking to your wife name before the sigining of S&P
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post Feb 17 2015, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(*7* @ Feb 13 2015, 04:07 PM)
Hi,

Would like to know how banks assess credit scoring for home loan applicants?

If let say, I want to buy a property that is under construction, to be completed end of 2016:

- I have car loans that eat 16% into my NET income
- I have personal loans that eat 15% into my NET income but the tenures are ending by this year 2015.
- I have a 1st housing loan that takes 9% from my NET income
- I have outstanding credit card debts that totals almost the same as my monthly net income. I projected the outstanding balance will be settled this year 2015 based on my historical trend of repayments.

So my concern is, will bank consider to approve my application and will they factor my commitments that will end this year? Will bank consider that by next year, I will have so much room for the housing loan?

Thanks a lot!
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hmm.gif From your description, your credit score may not let you get any or much loan. because total servicing loan should be less than 70% of your income (DSR). I would suggest you clear of both your credit card debt and personal loans first. After that you can get maximum mortgage loan of up to 45% of your income (70-9-16)
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post Feb 23 2015, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(misskucen @ Feb 20 2015, 05:19 AM)
Helloooo,

Thinking of buying a property in the range of RM1mil - RM1.5mil, combined loan.

Me and my hubs gross salary = RM14,400
2 Car loans (me and my hubs) = RM2k
House loan (me) = RM900
Insurance = RM200

Would like to know maximum loan amount we can stretch to apply that financier can easily approve?

Thanks guys
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Shouldn't not be a problem... your gross income minus car loans and current house loan is 11500, I think your insurance no need to take into account. So 70% of your GDV is 8050, this is the maximum monthly installment the bank allow to loan you. So working backwards assuming 35 years of loan tenure at 4.4%, you roughly can loan up to 1.72 mil
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post Feb 23 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 23 2015, 01:48 PM)
Its not that I disagree with cdspins but there is a difference between being able to qualify for a Loan to buy a house and able to keep up with the monthly instalments and maintain a minimum standard of living and also have some savings.

What is your other household expenses and what can you able to save right now. Assume that you can’t rent out the current house and want to keep it, can you afford 2-Loan instalments.

Also, bear in mind, what is your current take home pay. With a gross salary each of say RM7,000 a month, your EPF deduction is about RM770 and tax is about RM450 per month, so your take home pay is only about RM5,780 * 2 = RM11,560 per mth – 2K for Car Loan – RM900 Housing Loan = RM8,660 – RM200 for Insurance = RM8,460, say RM8000 per mth

Then how much you spend on Food, petrol, house maintenance.  Easily between RM2K to RM3K per mth right?

So, you have left between RM5,000 to RM6,000 per mth in surplus cash.  Is this correct

If you take a RM1 mln Housing Loan at say 4.60% for 35-yrs, the monthly instalment is RM4,800 per mth

If you shorten the tenure to 30-years, the instalment is about RM5,130 per mth

Remember, its about maintenance of the Loan, not qualifying for it which is more important

I used the calculator below

http://www.cimbbank.com.my/en/personal/pro...s/homeloan.html
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cfa28 is very considerate, breaking down your expenses and advising on a more comfortable financial scenario for you so that you do not become a mortgage slave.

My numbers means while is just in terms of maximum loans amount. I seriously advice against maxing it out.
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post Feb 26 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(btan @ Feb 25 2015, 09:51 PM)
KWSP of cz got partially, but still lack of..sad.gif
let say my hse is 400k, still lack some before reach 40k (10% deposit).
no other way to loan 100%?
i saw website got some info about skim rumah pertama.
not sure is applicable or not, anybody applying before?
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It is assume you buy subsales as from developer, they normally give this and that offer so that purchaser only need to pay about 4~8% deposit.
Besides the 10% deposit, for subsales, you also need cash for quite alot of fees and charges, for example stamp duties, lawyer fees, loan processing fee and etc, so the cash you need maybe more than 40k
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post Feb 27 2015, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(btan @ Feb 27 2015, 10:55 AM)
sorry ya.
how to calculate dsr?
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Let us know your gross income and your current servicing loan if any, the general rule is maximum allow 70% of your income after minus all your current existing loan or you can use PMT function in excel
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post Jun 16 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Immortal_00 @ Jun 16 2015, 12:18 PM)
hi, can we apply for the loan first then find a house to buy later? i'm planning to buy a second-hand house.
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How can the bank approve a loan if you do not buy a house?
If you are not confident/no sure about the maximum amount of your loan, just walk into any bank and chat with their customers service personnel, then can give you a very close estimation of loan-able amount
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post Jul 16 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(sss123 @ Jul 15 2015, 07:19 PM)
public bank told me if apply home loan without mrta, interest rate lowest will b 4.60.. is it true? Worth to buy mrta with 3.5k for 5 yrs to get lower interest rate? she cant guarantee how much lower the rate for buying mrta..
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Just for your info, the cost of mrta will always be higher than the saving from the lower interest rate.
It is wort to buy MRTA, that really depends on your age, financial situation and your family needs. If you already have enough insurance, then there is no need, if you are the sole bread winner in the house and this is your first house... then you might consider or even extend the coverage to 2/3 of the loan tenure.
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QUOTE(sss123 @ Jul 21 2015, 11:05 AM)
Proven if just wanna get lower interest rate, mrta is not reslly necessary..i got approval with 4.35% without mrta..

But then can i just check, if we buy mrta for 5 yrs, it only cover for 5 yrs rite? Its not covered for whole loan tenure rite? Unless we buy for whole loan tenure?
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YUP, if buy mrta for 5 years, you are only covered for 5 years, besides mrta is usually offered by bank, so indirectly you are lock-in to 5 years.
Normally buy mrta, seldom buy for whole loan tenure because our loan amount is reducing, and it become not worth to pay the premium for less protection.
If the loan is tie by 2 person, eg. husband and wife, do note that mrta only cover 50% when 1 is gone....
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post Jul 22 2015, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 22 2015, 01:33 AM)
I would like to add, that with MRTA 5 years, or any tenure that is shorter than the full loan tenure, the coverage will not even be full if something happens to the persons covered. Refer to the image below. If a borrower takes an MRTA for 5 years coverage, and happens to pass-away at year 4 of the loan, the MRTA will only cover a limited portion of the loan (RM230,000 in this example), and the rest have to be settled by the beneficiary or the house will need to be sold.

For those who want to know more about the difference between MRTA vs MLTA are welcome to take a look here: http://imgur.com/a/C4dAj

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Not necessarily. In my experience the sales agent would want avoid that clause, and for the more expensive properties, full refunds of booking fees can be rather rare. Always make sure everything is black and white before committing.
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rclxms.gif nice drawing... very informative notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(bbee6187 @ Jul 22 2015, 11:16 AM)
Dear sifu, need advise regarding my first loan disbursement

My loan not yet able to disburse and causeing late payment(I think developer will penalty me)

Story:
1. Check with loan lawyer the status on 06 July, lawyer feedback will issue loan advise letter to bank

2. Check with Loan lawyer the status on 13 July, lawyer feedback advise letter sent to bank on 07 Jul, pending bank payment.
Call banker and lawyer to get latest update,

1. Loan officer help me check in their system show my loan pending latest land search from lawyer firm - 21 July

2. Lawyer feedback they not aware the bank officer request for latest bank search. I get the lawyer to contact to bank on this matter.- 21 July

Call to lawyer again today - 22 July
1. Lawyer feedback to me the bank officer just back from rAya holiday and had check with her. Below are the reason given by the lawyer.

a) bank officer update remark in system pending land search and go Raya holiday.

b) lawyer claim that their system not reflect to the latest status set by bank officer. There is system inconsistent issue(they use same system) and they not aware bank require new land search untill I told them.

Question:
In this case, who fault isit that causing me late payment? What can I do?

Can I argue and get waive in late payment?
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No need to get too worried about it. This is usually the case for the first drawdown, the bank take a while and usually more than the days put on paper by the developers
Unless it is overdue by months then the developers will take serious action else normally they just ignore it. By the way, my developers last time is SPSetia, the bank in 7 days late in the first drawdown, but no penalties..
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QUOTE(wfeng @ Aug 3 2015, 11:54 PM)
For 2,
Coz for semi-flexi we will open an savings acc for the loan, and the money put in the savings will automatically offset the interest in daily basis. is n't it that way ? or any technical term i should use for that particular savings acc.
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Sorry I'm not pro but from my understanding, both semi flexi and full flexi with 2k park in casa will reduce the daily interest charges on principal. For example, daily interest for 100k, after park 2k in casa, daily interest for 98k.

The problem with semi flexi and full flexi is that full flexi has a monthly charges, usually RM10, but you can cash in cash out anytime. Semi flexi, I think no monthly charges, and you can cash in anytime, but if you want to cash out, there will be a one time charges with a minimum amount.

Do correct me if I'm wrong smile.gif
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QUOTE(sss123 @ Aug 4 2015, 09:45 PM)
how long normally ambank take to reply to a loan interest appeal? ambank is really inefficient... oredi waited for more than 3 weeks for loan approval, now asked the agent to appeal for better interest, the agent is not replying me when i will get a reply.. and my time to sign for s&P due soon..... wish they r more considerate and work harder to improve their work efficiency..it makes a whole lots of diff to their customers.... from counter processing to loan matter, they r slow like toitoise... they have nv failed to make me feel angry with their inefficiency every time i attended to their bank or deal with their agent...
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Have yous submit your loan application to other banks, sometimes, the delays is just due to the person u are dealing with, other personnel is ok
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QUOTE(sss123 @ Aug 5 2015, 10:27 PM)
what the developer told me is that they must get the money before i sign snp, hence I need to sign loan offer letter, then only bank send documents to lawyer and after all the legal documentation only developer will get money from bank... no?? she told me penalty is full amount of the house price divide by 365 times 10% per dy... so depends on how many dys delay..this project developer is first time developer, possible they do things differently?
felt bad abt keeping pbb waiting and asking her to hold the app when its possible i may not even take their loan..
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It is ok to ask for loan offer letter from various bank then only decide. This is part and parcel of the trade, no need to feel bad.

By the way, the penalty calculation although is correct but generally the draw down usually doesn't happen so fast. I assume it is landed property and the house is not build yet. Developer will ask money from bank based on percentage completed. So if it is a new big project, the first draw down may take a few months, so you may have ample time to sort out your loan. But if the house already build half way, then ya, they will ask for the money within a month after your snp.
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QUOTE(sss123 @ Aug 6 2015, 10:14 AM)
Ic..its oredi under construction even before it was launched...still checking with the bank developer how things work...its very confusing...
Can i just ask, if bank unable to disburse money on time, possible i can pay for the money by cash first? Since im actually just taking 80% loan..bank won cover for the full amount anyway...
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Ha ha... of course you can rclxms.gif
But mind you, you only have 20% buffer. As SNP will need 10%, so once they get the soil work, base structure done, it is already another 10~15%... so total it may already exceed your cash term, it all depends at what stage the construction is at of currently.

If you do have the cash, you can always pay by cash first... then later reimburse from bank once the loan approved.


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QUOTE(mil23 @ Aug 13 2015, 11:12 PM)
Hi, I would like to ask for advice on loan eligibility.

My details:

Age: 29
Monthly income : Not fixed (around RM8k)
Loan commitment : No


Property details :-
Selling price : RM556,000

Thank you.
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If your income is fix at RM8k, then should be no problem, for a 556k loan. I think the monthly instalment will be around 2800 which makes your DSR less than 50%

The problem for you will be to prove to bank that your income is consistent
And secondly if you don't have credit card, there is also problem in payment pattern.
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QUOTE(mil23 @ Aug 15 2015, 04:55 PM)
i want to ask how about if add joint name?the join person salary net income rm17xx but previously got loan car (already settle) & now is still loan another house (joint name)
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In this case, you better not join name because the join person salary is a bit too low... this will exceed his/her DSR... assuming half at RM1400 monthly installment.

For your case, the loan application may take slightly longer, and the bank may required more documents to check your savings and etc. Your interest rate may also be slightly higher... as bank is taking risk to offer you loan.

Easier solution, go apply a credit card, use it for 3 months, then you will have some records loo... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 16 2015, 07:53 PM)
what is the acceptable DSR by banks? 50%-70%?
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Not exceeding 70% for a normal wages worker...
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QUOTE(bagok @ Aug 17 2015, 07:49 PM)
Hi

I need your guys opinion. I in the midst of purchasing my second house which cost 800k ( superlink ). My loan had been approve.Due to current economy situation, should i proceed with this purchase or hold until our economy recover.

- my first house ( apartment ) due to complete feb next year. Monthly payment around 1700

- if i proceed with second house purchase, it will be for my own stay. I will sell/rent first house. First house Located  at shah alam near tesco/aeon.

- second house monthly installment is around 4000. My concern is, if i cant gent people to rent/buy the first house. Its under leasehold/bumilot status ( hard to sell i think )

- i dont think i can pay both house ( assuming no ppl want to rent first house )

Should i proceed or hold first.
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if You cannot pay both house instalment, I suggest you not to buy the second house. Economy isn't good now... holding power become a main factor
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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 18 2015, 12:19 AM)
Thanks. Too bad, need wait longer for second purchase then. By the time got enough salary, the house price may gone up again...
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wow... you really save alot if you are comfortable with DSR of 70%. Imagine 10k salary. 70% go to house loan, hire purchase and others billing. Only left 3k, petrol, maintenance fee, food, insurance, phone bills and etc... wow... really tight and that is for 10k, small potato like me even worst.... sad.gif

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