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Mr.Sea
post Nov 7 2019, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(realitec @ Oct 31 2019, 12:47 PM)
Hi All,

Does advance payment reduce interest rate for HLB?

Thank you.
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Advance payment won’t reduce. It just pays in advance. Do principal reduction. Housing loan interest is calculated based on balance principal. Pay principal more, hence interest charged lesser. Installment won’t reduce but total no of months balance to pay will be lesser

QUOTE(VanillaScoop @ Nov 6 2019, 01:57 PM)
I received offers from 2 banks regarding my housing loan. I'd like to seek an opinion of which is the better option.

Maybank
Loan amount : RM301k++ (inclusive of 5 year MRTA)
Monthly installment : RM1,370 (across 35 years)
Rate : 4.2% [BR + 1.20% p.a.]
HSBC
Loan amount : RM258k (no MRTA required)
Monthly installment : RM1,174 (across 35 years)
Rate : 4.2% [BR + 0.56% p.a.]

Any opinion is greatly appreciated, thank you.
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Both is good. If 258k is enough then go for that. You can tag in MLTA instead of MRTA.
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post Nov 8 2019, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(realitec @ Nov 8 2019, 01:52 AM)
But to reduce principal, if i need fund urgently later, can i still withdraw? But HLB branch has confirmed advance payment will reduce the interest.
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You need to identify what type loan you have first. Full flexi allows you to withdraw and dump in extra cash. Treat it like a current account. Semi flexi you can dump in only but not withdraw. Depends on individual banks actually. HLB may say this because they don’t want to further complicate clients and just mention “advance payments”. My advice, don’t use housing loan redraw feature as it may end up being used like a simple current account. Instead, practice scheduled payments or dump in a safe amount which you won’t withdraw.
You must distinguish difference for emergency fund and funds used to pay off loans or else you may face issue with your housing loan repayments.


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post Dec 5 2019, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(rajenrao @ Dec 5 2019, 12:15 AM)
Dear Sifus,

Would like to ask an opinion with regards of my financial standings

Age 35 year
Non smoker

Aim - clear 2 loan (PTPTN & Car Loan) and clear some cash
Plan - refinance house (Loan 1), current market value 350K

Current salary ~ 7K (nett)

3 property loan, all rented
[Loan - Amount Taken, Pending Loan Amount; Interest rate, Monthly paid, Term, Income]

Loan 1 - 140K Pending 82K; 4.55% PBE; ~850/month, 20 years, rented 1k/month
Loan 2 - 328K Pending 296K; 4.55% BSN; 1700/month, 35 years; rented 1.7/month
Loan 3 - 278K Pending 277K; 4.35% PBE (still in Lock in period); 1350/month, 35 years, rented 1.2k/month

PTPTN Loan 120K Pending 58K; 600/month
Car Loan 85K Pending 66K; 1K/month

I came up with a few scenario

Options 1
PBE to refinance the Loan 1, however i was told could top up the loan only (roughly comes to 170K, max term of 20 year) which in turn makes no sense to me as the monthly repayment would be back to the same with PTPTN + Car Loan (with an additional cost of lawyer and documents fees)

Options 2,
Approach other bank like Maybank. MBB told me current rate is 4.35% with a possible 35 years with compulsory MRTA with MBB.
*Was reading thread and noted some member getting 4.15% to 4.2%, is this possible?*

Options 3,
It is possible for me to refinance my parents property with their consent (current market value ~ 800k to be refinanced, so i can clear Loan 1 + 2 + PTPTN + Car Loan).

Which options is feasible? Any advise sifus?
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Advisable to not pay off ptptn as their interest rate is very low. But if you get a good discount upon full settlement, then do it. Discount value should be more than total interest paid if you follow tenure.
You should go ahead with option 2 & 3.
Option 2
350k x 70%(provided 90% quota still got) = 245k
245k is enough to pay off car and clear cash/ptptn

Option 3 will be slightly more costly in terms of legal fee as you need to do a transfer of property to your name as you’re using it to take a loan. You will need to pay MOT fee. But with 50% discount(love and affection transfer). More loans can be consolidated if you use this method. Monthly commitment reduces as well. You can pay off loan 1, loan 2 & car.
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post Dec 14 2019, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cheekymonster @ Dec 14 2019, 10:55 AM)
Hi guys, i need your advice on this matter cause i really had no idea what to do now.

I'm not aware that developer has selected specific branch as their panel (because i thought panel bank was meant to be any branch within the bank) and agent did not tell me (even i told him which branch I'm getting the loan from) so i went and proceed to obtain a loan in MBB- BK branch and sign the LO on Friday morning and was told by the agent that developer only told them regarding this matter today. They ask me to withdraw my loan from MBB- BK and apply it with MBB - TTDI. If not I'll have to bear the legal fee, SPA and MOT. At the same time, if I withdraw it from BK Branch, i will have to bear the amount of RM2,200. Should i bear the RM2,200 solely?
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Usually it’s only from bank panels and not specific branches.
But usually there’s no cancellation fee if you don’t sign and Loan Agreement with lawyer yet. Do check the terms and conditions in your letter offer as it has all the agreed terms including cancellation.
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post Dec 17 2019, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(DragLung @ Dec 16 2019, 02:10 PM)
Loan RM580K. 30 years.
First time buyer. Sole owner.

MBB full flexi islamic
without MRTA/MRTT
4.2%

CIMB semi flexi
MRTA
4.35%

RHB full flexi
MRTA
4.2%

which is the “best” option?
im not muslim though.
what else do i need to take note?
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RHB looks better.

Check if MRTA is covered fully or not based on loan amount and tenure. Some cover half only. Anyhow, MLTA is better than MRTA.

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post Dec 18 2019, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(OkuboNX @ Dec 17 2019, 01:04 AM)
Hi guys, appreciate it if I can get some advice here.

Currently, I have a joint housing loan with my dad to build his house (completed recetly), loan serviced by him, only used my name and docs to get approval, not sure if I'm the guarantor or it's a joint loan, checking with the previous bank officer on this. So, was thinking, if I'm the guarantor, is the monthly payment counted into my dsr calculation when I'm applying for a housing loan?

Also, currently in the midst of changing job (joining end of this week, change from contract to permanent), is it better to start at the new company first then only apply for the loan? Since I will just join, the dsr calculation, will it still based on my previous pay?

And, how do they usually calculate for pay in Sgd? Currently working and staying in sg, buying prop at JB, 457k, loaning 411k.
Age:30
Salary:5800

Thanks in advance!
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Hi, you will be taken count as a join borrower. Installment/2 is your commitment used for dsr calculation.
Profile will be stronger now compare to enter new company.
Or you can wait sometime after join new company then apply.
Depends as well if your salary is higher at new place compared to current one.
Bank calculate your pay as normal. Some banks take in 80% only from salary or margin will have 80% only max approval.
Depends also how is your basic and overtime shown in payslip.

QUOTE(Jau @ Dec 18 2019, 04:20 AM)
Hi all sifu I’m planing for refinance but the house and loan is joint name between me and my mother, the loan still on going,  is it possible refinance just under my name coz my mum no income.

I wan to ask that refinance also require to buy MRTA or MLTA? and which I need to choose for?
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Yes you can do it only under your name.
Yes you will have to purchase insurance coverage.
But if already have MLTA sufficient to cover loan amount then no need.

QUOTE(IzaakC @ Dec 18 2019, 10:38 AM)
Hi all,

I am considering to take a loan for my first house.

Initially I plan to grab BNM fund for affordable housing (up to 100% loan with 3.5% & 40y tenure), but it was fully utilized for the panel banks under the under-con project.

My question is, if I still proceed to apply for loan, after getting loan offer from the bankers, is it still possible for me to turn down the offer if I find not feasible and canceling the booking? What might be the other risks beside penalty on the booking fee I paid?

Edit: added some words
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Booking fee will be refunded only if bank gives the rejection of loan letter. If customer choose to cancel loan upon approval, it’s based on the developer side to see if they still want refund booking money. You need a justifiable reason.
Other risk is, check if your loan can get thru or not and then only do booking. Because preliminary stage rejection won’t give out letter of rejection because case never been processed. It’s hard for you to refund booking fee paid because bank unable to issue rejection letter.
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post Dec 18 2019, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jau @ Dec 18 2019, 04:09 PM)
U mean existing MLTA? Or the new refinance loan?
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If you have existing MLTA coverage for the home loan now, when refinance no need to take if the the coverage is enough

Example
Current original loan 500k
MLTA coverage 500k
Current loan balance 300k
New refinanced loan is 450k

Your MLTA coverage 500k is enough already to cover your new refinance loan of 450k.
Only works with MLTA. Not MRTA
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post Dec 21 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Matzhizhi @ Dec 19 2019, 02:20 PM)
Hi,
I'm planning to refinance my current house in JB and understand there is a need to engage bank valuater to find out my current property value.
So if i approach 3 banks (compare the interest offered), does it mean i need to pay 3 times for the valuation fee?

Appreciate your advise...
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Property valuation report is only needed when loan is processed and accepted. To check your property valuation, you can contact any mortgage advisor or bankers. It’s verbal. You can check for yourself too if you want. You’ll need details about your property.

QUOTE(farid_cool @ Dec 20 2019, 11:12 PM)
Just asking,

Can we claim back MRTT money once we completely payoff loan settlement?

If yes, how long it will take after we send back surrender policy form?

So far, still waiting after 1 month & yet, have not receive it.

Thanks.
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Yes you can. But ensure if your home insurance is an MLTA/MLTT. Usually within 2weeks you can get. You will need to go to the insurance company, give policy details and tell you want to surrender policy. They should guide you.
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post Dec 21 2019, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(realitec @ Dec 21 2019, 06:18 PM)
Hi all, if i have a house worth 400k, but loan was 200k. After serving 5 years of instalment, i need more money for other investment, possible to top up loan with same bank to get loan for 90% of current market value?

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Yes you can.
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post Dec 22 2019, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 22 2019, 09:12 PM)
Is it a good time applying home loan now or better to wait for 01 Jan 2020?
Or it doesnt matter actually?
Thanks.
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Depends on branch and banker.
Some will say many on leave therefore delay
Some will say they are chasing to finish the target.
My experience, cases get delayed because approval takes time due to public holidays.
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post Dec 26 2019, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(dummies @ Dec 26 2019, 10:34 AM)
Hi guys, I have a question regarding Mortgage Financing; Base Rate aka BR.

Say if bank A offer BR 3.99 + 0.41 = 4.40% while bank B offer 3.50 + 0.90 = 4.40%. Since the ELR are the same, should I choose bank A or bank B?

Can anyone enlighten me whether we should go with lower BR or higher BR? And why?
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Hi,

Choose the one with the lower spread rate as BR is not fixed and can change from time to time in the long run but the spread is fixed.

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post Dec 26 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Dec 26 2019, 12:26 PM)
Your explanation is incorrect; As BNM increases the OPR overtime the banks will adjust BR accordingly

Bank A :BR 3.99(+0.1) + 0.41 = 4.40% > 4.50%
bank B :BR 3.50(+0.1) + 0.90 = 4.40% > 4.50%
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Many factors involved. My POV was from fixed and non fixed. Your POV is scenarios of increment on rate.
Fixed and non fixed plays a role as well.
Why choose something that you can’t control to be higher if you can choose lower. Especially since spread is lower meaning this bank has lower on credit risk or profit margin and operational cost. Since spread can get lower, might as well go for bank which offers lower. Again, many factors involved, can’t just justify based on one.
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Dec 26 2019, 03:42 PM)
Clearly the question asked was comparing on variable rates offered by 2 banks. In which point of question was he referring to fixed rate loans?
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I meant
fixed(spread)
Non fixed(BR)
Please read again.

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post Jan 2 2020, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(PadeGP @ Jan 2 2020, 09:14 AM)
guys, i already have 2 housing loan under my name. now wanna buy another apartment. still possible for me to get 90% loan?
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Hi, if you can do loan consolidation to consolidate both your housing loans into 1, then you will be able to have your 90% for next house.
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post Jan 6 2020, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(excaliburcombo @ Jan 6 2020, 01:33 PM)
Hi would like to know now my property loan 167k latest rate 4.45. Balance 156k. Current property value 260k (neighbor sold last month). Now what is current rate bank offer? might want to refinance.
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Usually rates is between 4.4-4.8% for now.
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post Jan 9 2020, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(coca^cola @ Jan 9 2020, 12:37 PM)
Income rm2000
Want to buy a house value: rm385k
Fd and ansb:rm400k
Want to loan 70%. Do you think loan can approve?
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Your age ?
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post Jan 9 2020, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(coca^cola @ Jan 9 2020, 01:39 PM)
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2k income nett can get approval 70% loan.

QUOTE(Mr.Sea @ Jan 9 2020, 02:09 PM)
2k income nett can get approval 70% loan.
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If existing commitment is not high.
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post Jan 9 2020, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(jorrne00 @ Jan 9 2020, 09:45 PM)
Anyway to get bank loan for RM700k?
Fixed Salary = RM5k
Car Loan = RM1.7k
Extra Income per month not reported (Part Time) = RM5K per month
FD: rm160K
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Part time income got payment voucher and statements ?
Better declare in 2019 tax then use that apply loan.
But have to give 6 months bank statement or voucher to prove every month got 5k income from part time.
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post Jan 11 2020, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(jeannie18 @ Jan 11 2020, 08:09 PM)
Hi sifus.. What is the benefit of me taking a flexi/ semi flexi vs a normal housing loan? A little confused here hope to seek some enlightenment.

Thanks!
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Flexi loan - You can pay extra to reduce principal loan amount and withdraw extra paid amount after minus outstanding. It’s a current account type. No need inform bank if you want to pay extra or withdraw
Semi flexi - You can pay extra to reduce principal loan amount and can’t withdraw extra paid amount after minus outstanding. It’s a current account type. No Need inform bank if you want to pay extra.
Normal Term loan - You can pay extra to reduce principal loan amount and can’t withdraw extra paid amount after minus outstanding. Need inform bank earlier if you want to pay extra.

Not all bank same. Diff bank have diff policy most of time.



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post Jan 16 2020, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(kingz113 @ Jan 15 2020, 06:28 PM)
Is it possible to convert a 90% loan to 70% loan so I free up my quota to upgrade my home at 90% loan? Or do I have to refinance? I'm with cimb
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Need more information on your query.
How many active housing loans you have ?

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