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Cubed1437
post Jan 27 2015, 03:02 PM

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Hi all, I am seeking some advice in acquiring my first home. I am targetting a 300k apartment near my wife's work place. Both our income are probably around 5.2k, both are new workers with less than 6 months experience. My questions are:

1. Is it possible? Assuming a 1.5k loan commitment per month, would the bank agree since we are still new to the working field. Maybe the Skim Rumah Pertama is a good choice? Also, we have zero credit card and zero loans for now. Should we take one to increase our credit rating? If I just apply for one card and never use it once, will it still count?

2. Is it advisable? My wife's working on a 1-year training contract, is it better to just rent there? However, renting there is ~1.2k which is probably around the same as buying. To buy or to rent?

3. If you advise me to buy it, what's the exit strategy if I need to move? Rent to other people or any other options?

4. If you advise me to just rent, why is it? I am still new and should focus on accumulating wealth first? Property sector not so good now? 300k is too much for me?

Thanks and sorry for the long questions!

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post Jan 27 2015, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 27 2015, 09:12 PM)
Hello.

1. To be more accurate with the loan calculation, can you please give a break down of each of your GROSS SALARY, and the commitments that you mentioned (original loan amount as well as the current outstanding) and the monthly installment for each loan

Gross Salary:
3600 - Me
2700 - Her
No loans or commitments for now. Calculated expense for everything to be around 2000 each month. The 1500 I mentioned was the 'theoretical' loan value from a 300k house. No loans, hence the credit card question.


2. I would usually tell my client that if you are going to be certain that you will stay in that house, to avoid buying it. If the house is within KV, then MAYBE it is wise to buy. But even getting across KV during peak hours is a hassle. Will your wife be working in the same area as the house in the near and mid future? Only you can answer

What does the bolded mean? It's a bit confusing  sweat.gif The house is in PJ. Specifically in Sungei Way area. It's still in grey area as to where she's gonna be in the near future, that's why I was considering renting first.

3. Renting it out would be the best option, not to sell if it is still newly purchase. Remember, when you purchased the house, you are also incurring other costs such as the SPA, Loan Agreement, as well as insurances (if any) that tops up at around 5% of the total house purchase cost on top of the 100% of the house price.

4. Renting is a good idea since you get to have top option to be mobile with your "home". Are you sure you only want to buy an RM300k house as the house for the next 5 years at the minimum? Would it be wiser to wait until you can afford to buy a house that is a little higher priced?

That makes sense, Im thinking of investing in properties rental wise, that's why was thinking I can rent out this 300k house in case we move on. But if I buy this house now, I would be burden by it and can't afford a new one unless my salary increases significantly. Hence, the dilemma  sweat.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 28 2015, 09:49 AM)
I would highly recommend that you take a credit card facility, to build up your credit. Below are the break down of your loan eligibility. You wife's DSR limit should only be 60%, but when combined with you it will be 85%

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Hmm, that means I can just apply for the loan with my wife's credit only instead of joining. Good to hear that.

For the credit card, if I just apply for it and never use it once, does it still amount to 0 in the credit rating? Or I atleast need to use it first and service the credit, only then it will be rated? (Sorry for the newbish question)

Last question, if I opt for a long tenure (eg 35 years), the interest will usually be a huge part of the loan, can I do full settlement and thus minimising the money going to banks? If so, what kind/type of loan is it? Flexi? Any recommendation on which bank/product to apply? Thanks! thumbup.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 28 2015, 10:23 AM)
Yeah, to be honest it would be much better if the application is done as a single application if possible. This will allow your wife to buy 2 more properties under her name at 90% in the future.

2. Yeah, just get the credit card, pay the annual fees if any, and keep it locked in a locker or laci. You can use it for emergency! I personally have a card in my car hidden for emergency, you can do that too.

3.Yes, you can do full settlement at any time and you are only responsible for the outstanding portion of the loan, and not the future interest. You can also choose to pay more than the usual monthly commitment, and the extra will go into paying the loan outstanding, thus reducing future interest payable AND shortening the tenure!

Most banks offer flexi facilities nowadays. The difference are between full and semi flexi. I can help with application to 5 banks: Maybank, Alliance, Ambank, OCBC, and Hong Leong. And my services are free ya, since I get paid by the banks.
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Thank you very much for the prompt and great reply. I'll make sure to contact you if I intend to apply loans in the future. Cheers!
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post Feb 9 2015, 10:09 PM

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Is it better to do advance payments or more payments per month to reduce the interest or just put the money in a higher dividend place such as Tabung Haji? I believe the second is better but why do people advice to settle home loan asap?
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post Feb 14 2015, 09:05 PM

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Hi there, if I can buy a market priced 240-260k apartment for 215k. Is it possible to get 100% finance of it for the 215k? When people say 90% loan, is it of the price or the value put on by banks? Thank you.
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post Feb 15 2015, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(kepongA @ Feb 15 2015, 10:03 AM)
90% of Market price or SPA whichever is lower.
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So if the owner is selling to me at 215k, is it possible for me to ask her to make the SPA 238.88k (10% higher) and then I can get technically 100% loan? (Zero downpayment)

Say the owner owes me 30k, is it better for me to:
1. Ask her to use the 30k for downpayment (21.5k) and legal fees (~9.5k) and then I just loan the bank for 193500

or

2. Do the above, ask owner to give back 30k, mark up SPA then do 100% loan. And use some of the 30k to pay the extra taxes and legal fees. Then balance, put into other investment.

1. will give a lower monthly commitment and 2. will be higher. ~rm100.

Which one is better? Please advice. I can negotiate with the owner since she is my mum.

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post Mar 15 2015, 12:54 PM

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Hello, it is possible to sell your house before mortgage tenure ends right. So, how do bank calculate the amount they will give us when we sell the house before tenure ends but after lock in period?

For example, house is 100k, mortgage is 90k. Tenure is 35 years. Say if after 5 years, the house is 200k, but you only paid a small amount. So how do banks calculate the amount theyll pay us. Does only the principal counts and if not, is the interest based on 5 years or 35 years? Please help. Thank you.

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post Mar 15 2015, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Fat3Twister @ Mar 15 2015, 10:42 PM)
When you pay your monthly instalment, during the earlier stage of repayment, a big chunk goes into the interest while only a small portion will be paying the principal, which is the loan amount you get. So after 5 years, look at your loan statement for the outstanding loan amount, let's say 86k. If you sell at 200k, 86k will be paid to your existing financier for redemption and the balance goes to you.
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So to confirm, only the principal is counted at the 5th year right? This means my profit would be 200k - 86k - (whatever I pay for 5 years) - downpayment - fees/costs. Is that correct? And does this apply to both islamic and conventional loans?

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