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Argiope
post Dec 16 2015, 02:46 AM

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I am looking to refinance a landed residential property that is valued at about RM700k. Loan amount would be RM500k. So far i have only approached HLBB and they verbally offered 4.55%. My CTOS/CCRIS records should be clean. On top of that, i have an existing mortgage loan - the outstanding balance is RM150k at the rate of BLR-2.25%.

1. Is the rate from HLBB good enough? Should i approach other banks as well? If yes, which banks are recommended?
2. I suppose it makes sense to settle the outstanding balance of RM150k with the loan amount. What are the common T&Cs and costs i should be aware of?
3. If i do not have a lot of idle cash lying around, should i still go for full flexi loan? If i go for term loan, would the interest rate be lower?
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post Dec 16 2015, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Dec 16 2015, 03:00 AM)
Dear Argiope,

1. For Loan amount Rm500,000, the rate can go from 4.38-4.45% HLBB rate is not the best, compare to other bank.

2. Should you settle it really depends on your income, whether your income is sufficient for you to refinance Rm500,000 with existing Rm150,000 outstanding balance debt. I would need your income and all existing debt commitment to calculate this.

If your income sufficient for RM500K refinance, then you won't need to settle RM150K mortgage loan... it is a huge amount. Hence, you save on paying RM150K and get the refinance done.

If you opt to settle it, make sure it is not within the lock in period, as they is 2-3% penalty for settling property within lock in period.

3. Go for flexi loan but semi flexi instead of term loan. Semi flexi at least you can withdraw your cash (given that you creditted some amount of cash in the capital account) Semi flexi is suitable for people without huge cash flow monthly, moreover they don't need to pay rm10 monthly maintenance fees.

Going for term loan wouldn't reduce the interest rate, the rate is same for flexi and term loan.
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Thank you.

1. Which banks i should be comparing? From your post #2410, PBB, RHB, AMBANK?

2. Newbie exploring refinancing option here for the first time. Noted about the penalty within lock-in period. If it's no longer within the lock-in period, isn't it better to get a new loan to settle my outstanding considering the rate for the new loan is lower (4.6% vs <4.45%)? If it's not recommended to settle the outstanding loan, then i can lower down my loan amount.
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post Dec 18 2015, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Dec 16 2015, 04:41 PM)
Dear,

1. Comparing banks, first of all you need to know your profile suits which bank. After you know which bank will accept your profile, only then you compare among them. I would need to know your income profile and debt/commitment before I can assess your loan cash out eligibility.

2. To refinance cash out to settle your outstanding loan isn't a wise decision. Mortgage loan is the cheapest financing we can get right now. Given that your thought is to cover the lower rate with higher rate mortgage interest rate isn't wrong at all. But, it will be a waste, why don't you refinance cash out, park the money into your old mortgage loan account, but not fully settle Rm150,000 (AS IT WILL AUTO SETTLE) park Rm100,000. Hence when you need the cash, you can withdraw it anytime.

When you settle the loan immediately, your RM150,000 will stuck in the bricks.

3. You need to know what's your objective, to invest? to purchase more property? to pay off debt. Then cash out amount accordingly.

I would recommend you not to settle in one shot, but park money in the current/capital account, while serving minimum interest installment, then use the remaining cash for other purposes.
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Hi, not sure if you are aware, but i have sent the details to you via PM.
Argiope
post Feb 18 2016, 10:26 AM

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My refinanced loan of RM400k was approved at the rate of 4.45% by UOB for a non-flexi loan with lock-in period of 3 years. But they have Open Prepayments option so is this something on par with semi-flexi in order to save interest? Is this good enough or i should carry on shopping?

Valuation fee RM1.1k
Legal fee RM3.3k
Stamp duty RM2k

Is there any other cost i should be aware of?

This post has been edited by Argiope: Feb 18 2016, 10:29 AM
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Feb 18 2016, 11:00 AM)
Dear Argiope,

1. non flexi, is it written in the Letter offer as term loan facility?

2. The legal fees of RM3.3K is only the professional fees, it will incur other legal cost including disbursement costs total up should be around RM7-RM8k

3. Valuation fees would be around RM1K, so it's still within the standard budget.

4. Make sure UOB doesn't charge you processing fees.
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Thanks! I haven't received the LO yet so i can't tell. But if i do not have a lot of idle cash, flexi/semi-flexi or term also doesn't matter, right?

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 18 2016, 07:52 PM)
Sounds good enough

You need to check the loan whether it's a term loan or not and how is the principle deduction calculated. Going through your letter offer will tell you what you're in for.
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Thanks! I shall stop shopping and wait for the LO then.
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post Mar 2 2016, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Feb 18 2016, 10:26 AM)
My refinanced loan of RM400k was approved at the rate of 4.45% by UOB for a non-flexi loan with lock-in period of 3 years.
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As mentioned earlier, my loan has been approved. But right now there is no urgency in getting the money - most likely i need it only end of this year. The bank has been persuading me to sign the LO now to secure the terms and execute the legal part in Aug. The bank will need few months for finalization and disbursement. Is this advisable?
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post Mar 2 2016, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 2 2016, 11:18 PM)
the LO will expire within 2 weeks - 1 month. After this period, your offer letter is considered void and will require to re-apply again. If you only need the fund by December, you should only apply it around Sept and the funds would fully disburse by December.

The disbursement factor also depends on your title whether it's leasehold or freehold. Leasehold will normally take a longer period of time due to the lawyer need to get the permission from the government for you to charge the title to the bank.
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But apparently the bank officer said that so long i sign the LO now, i am secured with the loan and its current T&Cs. They will get the lawyer to KIV (up to one year) the legal part until my instruction comes in. If there is a change in the bank's T&Cs, those will not affect me since i have signed the LO (even though it has yet to execute legally).

This post has been edited by Argiope: Mar 2 2016, 11:45 PM
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post Mar 3 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 2 2016, 11:56 PM)
Since this is a refinance case, you may be allowed to hold the loan prior to the instruction from the lawyer to the bank for the disbursement, but I am not sure since you're going to put it on hold for 8 more months with the reason that you don't need the loan. You will need to get the advise of the lawyer you're appointing on this. Different banks have different guidelines. If the UOB banker mentioned you can do so, please double confirm it with the lawyer.
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But the lawyer is also appointed by the bank - should i still ask? Generally speaking, even if i have signed the LO but do not plan to execute it at the end of the day, i have no obligation or whatsoever, right?
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post Mar 3 2016, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 3 2016, 09:45 AM)
If you've signed the LO, you've agreed to it's terms and condition, if the lawyer is appointed by the bank, they would have done some of the paperwork prior to your disbursement, should you choose to delay too long, they will consider you would have to do cancellation prior to the loan disbursement and you will need to pay the cancellation fees + legal fees incurred.

Once you've signed the LO, the bank will hold this reserve of 400k for your refinance, and it's not being utilized by another borrower, the bank would want to disburse the money to you ASAP, not delay it longer because they want to earn your interest.
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Haha yeah i have also asked about those. Cancellation fee can seek waiver (and officer said most likely will be approved) whereas legal fee is not applicable yet since the law firm has not started to process my loan.
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post Jul 3 2016, 11:33 AM

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What's the estimated going rate for a loan of RM200k and RM300k respectively?
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post Aug 14 2016, 12:06 PM

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I've accepted an offer (pending legal doc execution) from a bank few months back before OPR cut and the rate was BR (3.98%) + 0.47% for 400k. From this site, BR is now 3.85%. That would mean my effective rate is now 4.32%. From your experience, if i would like to reduce loan amount by half, would i still be able to enjoy this rate?
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post Oct 21 2016, 05:55 PM

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I received the invoice from the law firm who is appointed by the bank to execute my refinancing loan docs but there's no mention of payment due date. Should i pay only after the loan is fully disbursed?
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post Oct 21 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 21 2016, 05:56 PM)
Normally it must be paid before loan fully disbursed.
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