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Aik_FEI
post Dec 13 2014, 06:06 PM

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Hi

Property RM 892,000

Net income Rm 7800

Debt Total RM 2000

Am I able to purchase this property?

Any banker to introduce for guidance and service

Thanks and regard everyone. laugh.gif
Aik_FEI
post Dec 14 2014, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Petro-Canada @ Dec 14 2014, 11:52 AM)
Lets say i bought a property, with joint names mortgage, but only me paying as the 2nd borrower only to get loan approved.

Now, i want to refinance the loan and the 2nd borrower agree to let me have only my own name on the land title...

so, the question now is

1. Do i need to pay for any stamp duty for the land? or something like that...

2. Or how should i proceed for that?
- Remove 2nd borrow name from loan
- Refinance

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Hi
This questions is half share purchase half refinance !
interesting as it comes with different scenario.

May I know if your property status whether unencumbered/encumbered ?

A and B joint name

If lets say still have outstanding of RM100,000 to your existing bank, you guys have to decide how to allocated the outstanding, either A or B paid separately or A paid all by himself, as this will derives different outcome.

1)
Property Market value Rm600,000
Property outstanding Rm100,000 (redemption)

A decide bare all the outstanding debt due to he his getting the house SPA under his name only.

Rm300,000 x 0.9 = RM270,000

Rm270,000 (Purchase property)
-Rm100,000 (Redemption)
Term loan Rm170,000 (cash out)

If decide to bare half

Rm220,000 (purchase property)
-Rm100,000 (Redemption)
TermLoan RM120,000 (cash out)

2) Or Just work on Memorandum of transfer


4) If it's unencumbered
Just visit your friendly lawyer and have him/her work on new SPA agreement transfering your name.

5) This half share purchase and half share refinance usually comes with a cost of stamp duty.

6) You can decide to do a proper normal buy sales procedure, but this will charge extra stamp duty on you for the full amount RM600K

Happy Loan !

This post has been edited by Aik_FEI: Dec 14 2014, 10:45 PM
Aik_FEI
post Dec 14 2014, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 14 2014, 02:43 PM)

Which bank is the property encumbered to? Is it still under Master title  or already broken to Individual/Strata title?
Actually, whether or not the loan details is captured in the guarantor's CCRIS depends on the bank. In some cases, the bank insist that guarantor also acts as the joint-borrower, in this case, the information would be captured in the "guarantor's" CCRIS.

However, more banks that I know of (the ones that I do) do not capture the loan information in the guarantor's CCRIS, as such, he or she is free to be the guarantor for many many many loan applications~!

So if... well like I said, this is just me speculating without a straight answer from my Relationship Managers, that the reason why they need the guarantor to have at least 2 housing loans is to make sure he is a genuine guarantor that is not a guarantor just for the sake of the 2 applicant applying but the loan only appear under 1 person's name...

Very difficult to explain, I also just speculate only at this point. laugh.gif
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Yeah wildcard You are right, Guarantor ccris will be clean from the housing loan he/she guaranteed.

And at any moment when the borrower default heavily on the housing loan, this will then reflect into the guarantor ccriss, when only main borrower default heavily.

and to continue speculate with @wild_card_my biggrin.gif MY reason behind this would be to create more window of chances for property investor to support financially on family members housing loan, since he has been hit my a slash 70%, so he is given another chance to invest, but without his name stated in the SPA !

Aik_FEI
post Dec 22 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(zeronuker @ Dec 21 2014, 07:07 AM)
Hello,

I have a fully paid house (under my mother's name) which I plan to cash out to settle all my other loans and to simply service a single loan.

My outstanding loans are;
2x ASB Loan
2x Car Loan

I'm free of credit card,PTPTN,MARA etc debt.

My income fluctuates greatly. Anywhere between 11,000 to 25,000. 11,000 is basic. Remainder is allowance base on per hour of work. Average for 2014 has been 16,000

Will it be a problem as my mother is age 60 in 2015?

Is it possible to cash out for a period of 35 years? Seeing as you recommend OCBC and HLBB which can up the tenure to 35 years?

Is it wise to settle my ASB Loans as their rates are BLR-1.65% as compare to Refinance rates of BLR-2.45%(approx.)?

Is it wise to settle my car loans seeing as car loans rate a approx. 1 to 2% only?

I also plan to cash out additional funds for emergency savings/life savings which I will put into ASB/ASB2 accounts. Again, comparing rates, ASB/ASB2 dividend of minimum 6% p.a as to Refinance rates of 4.4% p.a. (BLR-2.45%). Is this a wise decision?

Thank you for your time!
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Will it be a problem as my mother is age 60 in 2015?

if refinance under your mother name, tenure will be 10 years max, You can refinance and cash out under your name, 35 years is possible if your age us below 36 of years

Is it possible to cash out for a period of 35 years? Seeing as you recommend OCBC and HLBB which can up the tenure to 35 years?

35 years is possible as above mention, DSR can even reach 35 years as your house is now unencumbered, easier acceptance.

Is it wise to settle my ASB Loans as their rates are BLR-1.65% as compare to Refinance rates of BLR-2.45%(approx.)?

Yes it's radical decision to do so as u will save alot.

Is it wise to settle my car loans seeing as car loans rate a approx. 1 to 2% only?

CAR loan is in flat rate term, but with 2% flat rate calculation, paying it off with cash out amount is not worth. as the reducing balance rate for BLR-2.45% account for higher interest than the 2% car loan.

I also plan to cash out additional funds for emergency savings/life savings which I will put into ASB/ASB2 accounts. Again, comparing rates, ASB/ASB2 dividend of minimum 6% p.a as to Refinance rates of 4.4% p.a. (BLR-2.45%). Is this a wise decision?

It is wise for you to invest into ASB with your cash out amount, it also depends on your investment and risk appetite, as the ASB return yield is always higher compare to BLR-2.xx% .
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post Dec 22 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(rupart @ Dec 22 2014, 12:48 PM)
If let say I want to refinance from UOB to OCBC...any deals you can give ie ZEC?  wink.gif
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NOPE,no such delicious scheme from OCBC !

as what @wild_card said, it can be included in the LOAN financing.

But, OCBC do offers extra 20% renovation and 10% personal contingencies scheme (BLR-0%)

if you opt for that, you can try OCBC ~
Aik_FEI
post Jan 5 2015, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Halfhearted04 @ Jan 2 2015, 02:50 PM)
would like to know. if i can have roughly 1.5k available for monthly home loan.

what price range of property i can look for ? below 200k ?
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If you area saying monthly installment RM1500

Property range around RM 350-300K
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post Jan 5 2015, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(kb9 @ Jan 3 2015, 12:23 PM)
Bro are you sure that refinancing of fully paid property is not subjected to LTV 70%?

I thought it is considered as a new application so the same restriction applies, no?
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Hi, Mr KB9

If you have 2 properties on hand, refinance any one of it will still consider 2nd house 90% Refinance.

MOF 70% will only be counted if you have 3 residential properties on hand !

If you Refinance UNENCUMBERED property, your DSR calculation will be much lesser for certain bank, lower commitment DSR for your loan to pass through.

It's all under BNM rules and regulation, @wild_card_my is correct.
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post Jan 5 2015, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(spydermind @ Jan 4 2015, 09:47 AM)
Refinance doesn't increase the number of loan ,  so I don't think it applies to LTV 70%
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Refinance still falls onto the Refinanced Properties loan, in banks record to be clear. =)

and you are right !
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post Jan 5 2015, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(jocall123 @ Jan 4 2015, 05:34 PM)
@wild_card_my, hi there I have a question. I am currently engaged to Alliance Islamic Loan for the 5th year and the details as below.

Initial loan amount : RM 301k
Interest rate : first 12 mths : 3.25%
                    Thereafter : BLR -2.05%
Tenure : 30 years
Current payment : RM 1.5k

I am thinking of refinancing my condo to payoff my car loan so that I can have lesser monthly commitment. I also understand that this will extend the loan tenure. Do you think it is advisable or just a stupid idea?

My current income : RM 5350 ( fix with allowance )
Car loan : 52k
Interest : 2.7%

Pls advice. Thanks
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Hi jocall123, let me give you my suggestion

Refinance cash out to pay off car loan is not a wise move. Let me explain succintly.

Your car loan is calculated based on flat rate, meaning to say the moment you purchase your car, the interest has already been calculated based on your purchased price, hence your installment will bore the interest from the beginning and paying off car loan earlier doesn't help you to save a cent of car loan interest.

I advise that you refinance cash out and park the cash in better investment, such as ASB( if you are muslim ), pay off credit card or personal loan. Or as your personal contingencies.

Hope my answer do shone some light to you inquiries =)
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post Jan 5 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 5 2015, 09:22 AM)
I don't think that's correct. An unencumbered property means no loan is attached to it.  Refinance it means a new loan is created, so it in fact weaken the DSR (but whether that new DSR is still healthy or not is diff story).
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Actually is like this, lets say you refinance a property.

Property price Rm500,000
O/S Price Rm60,000

RM500,000 X90% =RM450,000

RM450,000-RM60,000 = RM390,000

you can cash out RM 390,000

hence, Refinance to a new bank, DSR Calculation


encumbered Property
O/S loan =RM60,000 (normal BLR-2.4 / 35 YEARS max)
RM282/month

Term loan =RM390,000 (normal BLR-2.4 /10 years max )
RM4032/month

TOTAL Back End DSR = RM 4314


Refinance an unencumbered property.

Property Price RM500,000
RM500,000 X90% =RM450,000

You can cash out RM450,000

Unencumbered Property



Term loan =RM450,000 (normal BLR-2.4 /35 years max )

Rm2115/month

Total Back End DSR = RM2115

BE DSR RM4314 (encumebred) compare to BE DSR RM2115 (unencumbered)

Unencumbered Property approval for income base isn't it lower ?


That's why it's lower for Back end DSR calculation on the unencumbered property, easier loan approval for limited income.

This calculation is based on certain bank, not all bank holds similar calculation.

This post has been edited by Aik_FEI: Jan 5 2015, 05:21 PM
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post Jan 5 2015, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 5 2015, 02:03 PM)
I'm actually quite confused. If I interpret you correctly, you are saying that using one unencumbered property to borrow and redeem another encumbered property with a loan outstanding of RM60k (but why RM60k - do I miss out sth from previous posts?).  Fine, there will only be one loan then.  But this should not be generalised that the DSR will be lower by refinancing as there are too many assumptions involved - the value of the unencumbered property, the outstanding of the existing loan, the monthly instalments of the new and existing loan (to be repaid) etc.  Further, fees (legal, loan documentation and stamp duty) will be incurred, so this has to be factored in too (though this is unrelated to DSR).
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Bro my bad, I have reedit my post. TYPO !
DO review, and give me some feedback. smile.gif

 

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