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post Nov 30 2020, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(woe.com @ Nov 28 2020, 12:15 PM)
Hi all, I have some questions here to ask:

1. If during the period I  just change job and also that is time to make property booking does it affect the loan evaluation? I'm actually in my current company for 10yrs, but sometimes things just clash in the same time, if I accept the new job offer and during this time doing loan application would this be a major blocker?

2. I'm plan to apply the loan with my sister (joint n
ame) she is actually on her on business and she just done the tax for 1st year, as I understand the loan requirements do need 2yr tax if you are doing own business, and if the loan application need to start in Dec/Jan I don't think my sister able to complete the 2nd yr tax yet, so is this also a "no go"?
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Not really advisable to apply loan after accepting a new job as it will affect your scoring assessment. Plus bank will look into company establishment for more than 2 years.

QUOTE(1234_4321 @ Nov 28 2020, 09:05 PM)
for service residence, what are the current loan rate and offering for RM 420k auction unit?

Please PM the package as looking for the banker to proceed my loan smile.gif
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As low as 2.90% regardless conventional or Islamic loan. Have you check your loan eligibility before going for bidding?
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post Dec 1 2020, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(woe.com @ Nov 30 2020, 11:36 AM)
What about if I applied the loan and it get approved then I tender my resignation and move on to the new job, does that affect anything?

and is it usually need to get confirmation then only apply for loan?
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As long as bank able to verify you as permanent staff through phone call verification.


QUOTE(SmallKidz102 @ Nov 30 2020, 04:23 PM)
Hi Sifus, I am confused about the Semi-Flexi/ Flexi monthly loan repayment, as per some writings/ videos I have came across online, it is as per following:

Assuming the following scenario:
- Loan Amount          : RM 500k
- Interest Rate          : 3%
- Tenure                  : 35 years
- Monthly Instalment : RM 1924 ( Interest RM1250 + Principal RM 674 )

If I put put in additional RM 100k to offset the principal, or just parking it under the full flexi account, the next month installment shall be as follow:

Semi-Flexi Loan
Monthly Installment : Remains at RM 1924 (Interest RM 1000 + Principal RM 924)
Tenure : Reduced

Full Flexi Loan
Monthly Installment : RM 1674 (Interest RM 1000 + Principal RM 674)
Tenure : Remain 35 years

Is my understanding above correct?
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QUOTE(SmallKidz102 @ Nov 30 2020, 07:36 PM)
Thanks for clarifying! Your reply tallies with what the banker told me. Was asking around and gotten few random versions of how Flexi/semi-flexi works.
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Different bank will have different product setup. Generally your installment will be fixed (unless any BR or spread changes by bank/BNM) however the allocation towards principals and interests will be different when you place in advance payment.
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post Dec 1 2020, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 1 2020, 09:45 AM)
does bank considering stocks/shares when calculating loan amount eligibility?

I know FD & ASN (ASM, ASW2020, AS1M, etc) are counted.....how about stocks in KLSE or Singapore or USA share markets. If a person have a few hundred thousand (RM) worth of shares in those stock market, would that help ?
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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Dec 1 2020, 09:57 AM)
Dividend from your investment will be consider based on individual banks criteria
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only dividends will be calculated as supporting income. The liquid asset value merely treated as your personal net worth, for reference only.
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post Dec 1 2020, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 1 2020, 12:20 PM)
Thanks for replying, another question, what banks mean by 'high  net worth' people ?

Is it he own a lot of properties with no bank loan? Or a lot of cash ? Or shares ?
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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 1 2020, 01:34 PM)
Thanks for replying, a bit confuse here:

I elaborate further below, which criteria to be considered as HNW?

(1) - own a few properties (fully paid or still in loan).
    - have cash & investments > 1 mil.

or

(2) own a few properties (fully paid or still in loan) + cash + investments, total all sum up to >1 mil.
criteria (1), you need to have "cash & investments" more than 1 mil, which is harder to acheive.

criteria (2), easy to achieve, buy a few properties total worth >1mil (although still in loan), little cash/investments on hand.
I think should be criteria (1) ?
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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 1 2020, 02:26 PM)
how about this......500k house (bank valued, fully paid off) + 200k FD + 300k shares.....also considered as HNW ?
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High Net Worth criteria
- total assets value (fixed assets + liquid assets) more than 1 mil

Nowadays bank prefer at least 70% liquid assets and 30% assets value (both property free from encumbrance or encumbered with bank still acceptable by bank)

What's the benefits of High Net Worth
- Boost DSR up to max 150%

Value derived from encumbered property
- (Current Value x Margin set by bank) - Current Outstanding = net asset value
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post Dec 3 2020, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Coldfingaz @ Dec 2 2020, 10:10 PM)
Hi sifu sifu sekalian, I am currently looking to purchase my first house. After some rough calculation, the loan repayment would take up about 50% of my gross salary, which I have heard may be tough to approve. However, I have a significant amount of savings that is under my name, I was wondering if this would increase my chances in getting the loan approved.

I'd be more than happy to go into details of my financial situation through PM, thank you!
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Usually we will calculate the DSR base on net income instead of gross income, after some statutory deductions and some other commitments.

Savings will only be supporting document, not a booster for your additional income. Have you thought of lowering the margin or find a co borrower?
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post Dec 3 2020, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Dec 3 2020, 04:14 PM)
My loan application with Public Bank for Approx RM700k was approved at 2.9% @ 35 years.

Is that considered a good deal?
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Congratulations to you.

QUOTE(Coldfingaz @ Dec 3 2020, 08:52 PM)
I see if that is the case then my DSR would be around 60%. Hmm, unfortunately co-borrower is not an option at this moment, but by lowering the margin, do you mean decreasing the borrowed amount by paying more downpayment?
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Yes, by lowering the margin means you need to pay more deposit.
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post Dec 4 2020, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Dec 4 2020, 04:00 PM)
I want to buy a subsale kondo unit at RM1.5 mil.

I am not working, i have 2.5 mil in my bank, is there any way I can get a loan from any bank?  how much down payment should i put to secure a loan?

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May I know the following

- Age
- Monthly commitment from FI
- any co borrower to joint in?
- Lowest margin to secure loan, 70%?
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post Dec 5 2020, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(faizal87 @ Dec 5 2020, 09:32 AM)
hi sifu,
1st time home buyer here

want to ask question

1.it is true that nowadays BANKS ( HLB,MBB,PBB)  wants customer  got saving at least 10% from house price? mine got 3.25% from HLB  due to not enough savings .MBB  still processing.CIMB & UOB  got quota for housing loan,currently full said  by my agent.

2.already 2 week,only HLB  contact me,other bank no response,can i approach bank by myself?
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Not necessarily needed to show the 10% but is better to have. Because that would affect your scoring hence affect your final margin and interests rate.

QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 5 2020, 01:54 PM)
hi, is it normally at end of the year bank loan quota almost full (or already achieve target quota) so they are more reluctant to approve loan?

Is it wise to wait till January to apply loan ?
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Mostly, because most of banks will have to do year end closing of their audited reports. But you still can apply loan as BAU.
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post Dec 6 2020, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(passmaster14 @ Dec 5 2020, 07:08 PM)
hey sifus,

first time home owner to-be and totally noob in this area. wife and i plan to purchase a subsale landed property and intend to take a joint loan for this. our offer was accepted by current homeowner for 1.2m, and now i'm looking at financing options - went to several banks and received general rates from 2.89-3% pa but was told a full flexi loan could be higher and depends on their credit profiling/checks.

my questions:

1. if our combined take home pay is around 13.5k, what's the likely range of interest that's "good"?
2. is a full flexi loan better even with the higher interest rates?
3. is it better to go direct with a bank to apply or through the realtor's "value added service" who will help gather from diff banks at no cost (but they earn commission from the banks)? not sure if this will skew their recommendation
4. is it ok to apply for 3-4 banks and choose the best package? how will it affect my ccris?
5. is it better to go with the bank's legal panel to sort out the loan, SPA and MOT paperwork, or i can get the same service for less outside the bank?
6. MRTA vs MLTA - what's the better option? and is it cheaper to get it from a different source instead of the bank offering the loan?
7. while my wife has 0 commitments, i took up some cash advance promos from some of my credit cards which are converted into 12/18 month instalments earlier this year that pushed my DSR to around 50-60%, how will this affect the loan outcome? besides these cc commitments i only have one car loan.


this is a totally new thing for me and i truly appreciate any responses from you guys here  icon_rolleyes.gif
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1. if our combined take home pay is around 13.5k, what's the likely range of interest that's "good"?
- best rate is 2.90%

2. is a full flexi loan better even with the higher interest rates?
- in general, yes

3. is it better to go direct with a bank to apply or through the realtor's "value added service" who will help gather from diff banks at no cost (but they earn commission from the banks)? not sure if this will skew their recommendation
- if they are professionals, why not letting them to try?

4. is it ok to apply for 3-4 banks and choose the best package? how will it affect my ccris?
- still acceptable, try not more than 5 banks, otherwise banks may deem it as multiple submissions which may affect your margins and effective rate

5. is it better to go with the bank's legal panel to sort out the loan, SPA and MOT paperwork, or i can get the same service for less outside the bank?
- you may choose bank's full panel or preferred panel as loan lawyer, as for SPA you may select any firm or bank's panel as well

6. MRTA vs MLTA - what's the better option? and is it cheaper to get it from a different source instead of the bank offering the loan?
- depends on your financial needs, MRTA usually not able to cover full loan amount hence it is advisable to take MLTA. However, some banks may impose compulsory MRTA as the bundled package for better rates.

7. while my wife has 0 commitments, i took up some cash advance promos from some of my credit cards which are converted into 12/18 month instalments earlier this year that pushed my DSR to around 50-60%, how will this affect the loan outcome? besides these cc commitments i only have one car loan.
- try not to fully utilize the credit card as banks may think that you spending card lavishly, in the event you are not able to repay bank will have the risk of NPL. Hence, try to retain your total card usage below 70% of total approved limit.


QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 5 2020, 10:37 PM)
thanks for the explanation above.

I have another question, is the joint-name FD (fixed deposit) help in obtaining the loan approval or increase loan margin?

A lot of parents have joint-name FD with their children, if their children want to purchase house (S&P and loan on children's name), does the joint name FD help ?
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It helps in someway but not really significant. Not in terms of your DSR.

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post Dec 6 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(uk15029 @ Dec 6 2020, 07:37 AM)
I'm planning to buy rm753k house

Gross salary rm6235
Bonus RM10000 annually

Commitment
Car loan rm1399

Am I entitled to get 90% loan?

Tq
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Hmm, DSR within but net disposable income (NDI) failed, anyone to joint name or reduce loan amount?

DSR was calculated base on 35 years repayment at 3% effective rate.
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post Dec 7 2020, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(uk15029 @ Dec 6 2020, 03:46 PM)
No joint name...I do not wish to reduce loan amount...

Any other ways to increase the success rate?

I actually submitted the documents to SA already...I think she will submit to banker tomorrow 😅
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Let's see what's the end results from bank.

QUOTE(Anangie @ Dec 6 2020, 08:31 PM)
which bank is offering low interest rate? anyone know mbb or cimb interest rate with about rm500k housing loan.
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MBB about 3.0% - 3.05%, CIMB always slightly higher, 3.05% -3.2%

QUOTE(woe.com @ Dec 7 2020, 12:07 AM)
Hello, I'm curious, is 'contractual bonus' taking into consideration for higher loan amount and if yes, how do I need to proof to the bank when doing loan application?
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either from bonus slip + bank statement + EPF statement or EA form
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post Dec 8 2020, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(ycant @ Dec 7 2020, 10:57 AM)
I have one question regarding MBB semi flexi loan
My monthly installment amount suppose is RM3.2k and I put some advance payment into loan account. I found out every month bank only deducts RM1.5k as interest charge instead of monthly installment amount. Is that normal?
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You can find loan calculator, click on amortization and you'll see the allocation for principal and interests payment.

QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 7 2020, 10:07 AM)
what is the income needed for 1.6-1.7mil commercial (shoplot) loan approval ?

If getting a salary increase on this month, if submit loan application on January, will the income is average of Oct + Nov + Dec ?
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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Dec 7 2020, 11:03 AM)
current commitment:
rm985 (car loan).
rm2700 (house, this house for rental, now collecting rental rm2500/mth).
rm1400 (house, under construction property).

Shoplot (commercial) loan tenure max 25-30 yrs right?
How much income needed for 1.6-1.7mil new commercial loan?
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Base on the latest income to calculate, need to know your monthly income and current age to determine your loan eligibility

max loan tenure is 25-30 years, best rate in town is about 3.1%

QUOTE(Justi @ Dec 7 2020, 07:38 PM)
Now interest so low.
Should borrow 90,% or 70,% if got the ability to pay 30,,%?
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there are pros and cons, i usually advise client to get max margin in case they might liquidate for emergency usage.

cons are you always pay for higher installment.

QUOTE(adeline753 @ Dec 8 2020, 02:11 AM)
Hi SIFUs, first time home buyer so hope someone could help me with some questions I've been having in mind..

Below is some background about myself:
Gross basic income = RM58,800 annually
KPI incentive = RM8,575 annually (paid per quarter)
Commitment = RM825 monthly

I'm 25 this year. I stopped working on February 2020 and resumed on June 2020 and has already been confirmed. Already received my first incentive quarterly payout.

I'm interested and placed bookings for two projects with different panel banks:
Project 1 = RM555,445 (MBB, HLB, Ambank, PBB)
Project 2 = RM575,120 (MBB, HLB, CIMB, MBSB)

Wonder what's the best rate to be consider "best", and if I'm eligible for 90% loan? Got answer from MBB and HLB for Peoject 2 that their max loan margin is only 80%. Interest rate by MBB is 3.05%. The rest still pending response as I just submitted documents last week.

In terms of banks, any recommendations if I'm offered with desired loan margin and % of interest?

Thanks so much smile.gif
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PBB, best rate in town 2.9%, first and second property always entitle for 90% margin however subject to approval.

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post Dec 8 2020, 11:42 AM

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[quote=faizal87,Dec 8 2020, 11:17 AM]
[quote=ngph988,Dec 5 2020, 06:12 PM]
Not necessarily needed to show the 10% but is better to have. Because that would affect your scoring hence affect your final margin and interests rate.

owh thank you
my agent said MBB need at least to have min 10k in the saving to process loan application.not sure it is true or not
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[quote]

There's a clause in MBB offer letter stated to present 10k savings in MBB account, but it doesn't mention how long does the 10k to be retained in the account whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Dec 9 2020, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(syncronyzer @ Dec 8 2020, 09:01 PM)
Hi sifus.. have a question on simultaneous loan application:

1. I applied 2 banks for a home loan

2. Bank B approved and I’ve signed LO and loan agreement

3. I did not respond nor sign to Bank A. They didn’t even send me LO because I told them its not the rate I wanted

4. 2 weeks later, Bank B banker told me that they can’t release first disbursement because Bank A’s application is still active in the system

5. I called Bank A to cancel my application - they don’t seem to care much and just say “noted”
Questions:
A. Must buyer call each and every bank they applied to cancel loan that they do not want to take?
B. Will these application be “automatically” removed from our profiles eventually if we do not call them?
C. Anyway to “expedite” the cancellation if banker is on a “don’t care much” mode?
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A. Yes
B. No, is consumer require to notify bank to cancel application.
C. escalate to higher management if necessary

QUOTE(Anangie @ Dec 9 2020, 12:22 AM)
just would like to check if margin of refinancing is it also the same, at 90% of market value of property?

Besides, int rate for refinancing is higher than int rate for new purchase of property?
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For first and second property, max margin is up to 90% however alot of banks are tighten their policy hence refinance + cash out only 80% max.

Rate is subject to your risk assessment and loan amount as well

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post Dec 9 2020, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(lynus5986 @ Dec 9 2020, 01:28 PM)
hi... would like to inquiries

1. previously was tag in AKPK, payment so far prompt, 2months earlier i did an early settlement and got the release letter.. am i entitled to apply a housing loan now or i do need to wait for certain period.

2. Am working as a tour guide b4 the covid pandemic hits, so i'm actually unemployed since Jan, Aug start working back averange salary bout 6-7k, so am my wife. in other hand i did have an active enterprise tag under me .. am i entitle to apply for a housing loan?
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1. Need at least 6 months to monitor your credit behaviour

2. As long as your current active income is able to sustain your commitments then you should be eligible. However, bank will conduct searches on current company and evaluate your credibility aka scoring. Should scoring failed, your application will be fail as well.

What is your current age and your monthly commitment?
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post Dec 9 2020, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(lynus5986 @ Dec 9 2020, 04:56 PM)
i'm 34 and my wife was 26, current only a car loan under my wife name . monthly around 900
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Are you looking for joint name or single name application, i would recommend joint name as the risk will be mitigate to another party.

best is you can show 10% of deposit to the bank.
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post Dec 10 2020, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(GadgetzKL @ Dec 10 2020, 10:58 AM)
Hi All,

I'm planning to made a full settlement on  my maybank flexi housing loan, the loan has over the lock-in period. Can someone advise what is the procedure?

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Just call the bank and ask for the final amount for settlement. Upon settlement, you may engage lawyer for redemption of title and transfer ownership from bank's name to your name.
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QUOTE(crappyalex @ Dec 12 2020, 04:44 AM)
Hi I’d like to understand our loan eligibility.

Husband income : RM21K gross
Wife income : 10K gross
Total cash in loan full flex account/FD : 500K 
Total joint commitment:
7K Mortage across 3 properties (rental income of 4.5K, undocumented) - 30 more years
1.5K car loan 5 years
No credit card or other debts

How much more can we borrow for the next residential property?

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What is your age, so as your wife?

And also current occupation?

More than 3 residential properties will entitled max margin up to 70% only, hence you may need to prove the source of deposits.
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QUOTE(crappyalex @ Dec 12 2020, 02:06 PM)
Thanks for your reply.
Both employees with MNC
Both 32/32 YO
Property A - husb name husb loan
Property B - both names, husb loan
property C - both names, both loan
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Max loan eligibility is close to 2.5 mil for joint name, given 35 years repayment with EIR 3% per annum

Do note that loan margin will capped at max 70% as you have exceeds more than 3 residential loans.
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post Dec 15 2020, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Micky78 @ Dec 15 2020, 09:47 PM)
planning to try my luck in bidding some residential property and hope member can share your two cents.

1. the 70% maximum loan on 3rd property rules. Must all these 3 properties currently held or property previous had used loan to secure the property?
2. is banks still insist to take up MRTA on loan?
3. what the estimate legal fees on S&P loan? and any other fees need to budget for?

thanks.
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1. Only applies to residential property (with HDA). 3rd residential properties and above only eligible for max 70% financing and no entry costs financing except MRTA
2. You may request to waive MRTA however subject to approval. The effective rate may revise to a higher rate.
3. Legal fee for both SPA and Loan follow scales as below :

First RM 500k : 1%
For the subsequent RM 500k : 0.8%
For the subsequent RM 2mil : 0.7%
For the subsequent RM 2mil : 0.6%
For the subsequent RM 2.5mil : 0.5%

On top of that, you might need to take consideration of the stamp duty fees for both SPA and loans + valuation fees + misc fees.

Do check your loan eligibility first before you start to apply loan

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