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post Jul 11 2020, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Jul 11 2020, 01:11 PM)
Hi guys,
Regarding 1st home buyer waive 300k stamp duty.

My mom pass away 10 years ago, and the house of her was divided to two and pass to me and my brother.

So now i want buy a house, i am still 1st home buyer to entitle the waiver of 300k stamp duty?
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Has the house ownership allocated to each one of you? If yes, then you may apply loan to purchase it.

You should be entitled for full stamp duty if you're first home buyer and house value less than 1 mil (til end of year)
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post Jul 12 2020, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Jul 11 2020, 09:07 PM)
My lawyer say i cant get stamp duty waiver since my i got name in my mother house (even though i just little portion, share with my other brother and sister).

Which is 10 years ago i still studying,
dunno inherit house from parent will affect next time when want buy 1st property.

Just want to confirm here is it true?
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I think waiver is not applicable was due to the property was acquired via inheritance instead of purchase.

Most likely you can purchase the property from your siblings and make it 100% owned by you.

Not sure if stamp duty waiver still applicable though.

QUOTE(redtuna @ Jul 12 2020, 01:55 AM)
Applying for 630k loan

minimum can get 3.25% for 29 yrs

Can someone help me estimate how much the MRTA or MLTT that I need to prepare?

Age 41 / non smokers / office work / no medical conditions.

Thanks
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Are you a male or female? I suppose the loan is under single name


QUOTE(redtuna @ Jul 12 2020, 09:59 AM)
I jumpa banker straight with payslip and EA..

now which bank can accept outside MLTT?
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There is no any restriction from bank preventing applicant to purchase own insurance.


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post Jul 13 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(redtuna @ Jul 13 2020, 10:46 AM)
PBB 3rd property subsale now can do 90% or still capped to 70%?
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Only developer unit entitled for 3rd property financing at 90%. Ordinary subsale still capped at 70%.
QUOTE(Spawny @ Jul 13 2020, 03:51 PM)
Does anyone know how long does a typical house loan gets approval from HQ lvl? My dad is selling onee of his hse to a buyer and loan approval has been pending for more than 3 weeks already, the hse is less than 700k. Is it typical for banks to have a longer time to process the loan approval during MCO?  Bank is Public Bank
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Usually a week given complete document checklist, unless bank requires more proof of document to justify application. Have you check with the respective banker to find out what’s the reason behind?
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post Jul 13 2020, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Spawny @ Jul 13 2020, 04:08 PM)
The banker is managed by the agent from the buyers side, all documents has already been provided to them. Usually the branch can approve themself so i'm not sure why it has gone to the HQ lvl, maybe its a new process during the MCO period, so even within MCao it will usually take a week for any bank to approve the loan?
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As I recall, PBB branch manager has the authority to approve any mortgage loan less than 500k. Any amount above 500k will be escalated to HQ for final approval. Could be some hassles mingling around from applicant profile, I suppose the location is prime area hence no negative factors imposed.

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post Jul 14 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Spawny @ Jul 13 2020, 11:19 PM)
But its a subsale property, and the loan that they are taking is below 500k, maybe they are way strict than before. End of this week will be 1 month of waiting for the approval
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Maybe time to ask your purchaser to change banker or look for other banks to finance?


QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Jul 14 2020, 02:31 PM)
hey guys, for subsale property around PJ for 600k to 700k.... how much is the interest on loan assuming 90% loan
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Best rate in town is currently at 3.02%. Have you check loan eligibility prior to purchase?
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post Jul 14 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Jul 14 2020, 03:45 PM)
Preloan eligibility check

Income
Net: MYR 8240
Bonus 2020: MYR 11758
Rental (commence JUL2020): MYR 2300

Expenses
Mortgage: MYR 3928
Hire purchase: MYR 1595
Personal loan: MYR 830

What the possible loan sum (if any)?
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Seems like you have breached bank’s DSR without support of rental income.

Bank may recognise rental with stamped tenancy agreement with at least 3 months bank statement that rental credited in.

350k probably will be max loan eligibility after consideration of rental income and bonus taken in place (with max tenure 35 years calculation)

QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Jul 14 2020, 04:09 PM)
no but i plan to use two names to increase the chances of eligibility
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May I conduct an initial assessment of joint loan?

Age

Salary earner/Commission Earner
- Fixed Salary
- Fixed/Variable allowances
- Bonuses (optional)
- Average 6 months commissions

Monthly commitment
- Housing loan
- Hire Purchase
- Personal Loan
- Credit card
- Other term loans
- PTPTN loan

Supporting document
- rental income, savings, FD, shares, dividends and etc

Property details
- Purchase price
- Type of property (double storey/condo/etc)
- Land size
- Built up (Applicable to high rise/Semi D/Bungalow)
- Any renovation and estimated costs

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post Jul 15 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(imhoe123 @ Jul 14 2020, 05:47 PM)
If I am buying a completed project from developer, the loan assessment will be based on SPA price or bank’s valuation of the said property?
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Follow by bank valuation, treat it as subsale case.
QUOTE(klutzie21 @ Jul 15 2020, 01:10 AM)
Hi all, property newbie here.

Which is better to take, MRTT or MLTT?
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If you are willing to pay slightly higher premium, MLTT will be a better choice since it gives you full coverage and you may add other riders to fit your financial planning. MRTT coverage will reduce from time to time until end of loan tenure.

Your MRTT coverage may not able to cover the total repayment when bank increase the effective rate. Therefore, there is a potential risk to consumer.

QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 15 2020, 11:34 AM)
Let’s say I have a credit card with limit of RM15k, my credit card statement date is 5th of every month, statement due us 25th.

If I swipe RM10k on 3rd of the month and my cc amount due is 10k on statement date, will it show up in my CCRIS? what if I pay fully before the statement due, will it still appear in CCRIS?

Asking this to avoid any chances of affecting my credit score during loan application.
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For instance, in month of January you spent total amount of 10k and fully paid off before 30th of January. 10-15th of February will reflect outstanding as nil.

So make sure make your payment before 30th of the month to minimise high utilisation or commitment in your application
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post Jul 15 2020, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Jul 15 2020, 01:36 PM)
I think this depends on when bank does the extraction and send the data to BNM? I don't think it has anything to do with the statement date though.
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Correct, mainly bank CCRIS team will extract the current outstanding as of 30th of and Also current credit limit before they upload data to BNM. That’s why the new CCRIS will only reflect on 10-15th of next month.

QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 15 2020, 01:46 PM)
I think it depends on what kind of data the banks send to BNM. Is it the credit balance? Is it the amount payable in statement? If I settled my bill on time but it is after banks send their data to BNM, I will still be considered having that debt?
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That will credit outstanding and credit limit. Do take note that any installment plan under your credit card will show a sub divided info from your CCRIS report.

Your payment make before 30th of the month should be safe.

Anyway, you may wait til after 15th to pull out latest report for checking

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post Jul 19 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(motorhead @ Jul 17 2020, 02:42 PM)
Loan amount 500k+ mlta 19k(20years)
Rate 3.05
Is it good to take? What u guys think?Waiting for other bank also.
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Seems decent package. May I know which banks is giving such offer?

QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 17 2020, 04:26 PM)
For joint loan, is there any weightage in DSR calculation or it will still be considered 100% loan under your name?
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Nope, mainly we will add total commitment vs total income from joint borrower to calculate DSR

QUOTE(sleyer @ Jul 17 2020, 07:14 PM)
my flat house 2015 ..cimb loan on bank 5 year already finish.. lawyer call and would like to proceed
deed of reassignment...  caj me rm1k .. it that normal caj ?? and what i get
1.ori deed of receipt and reassignment
2.ori power of attorney
3.ori deed of assigment
4.ori murabahah facility agrement
5.original SNP
6.ori dead of mutual
7. leter offer
8. notification letter

no 2 until no 8  i already get on 2015 when i get my key house.. why this lowyer give me same doc ??

and i ask about geran.. they said this house still no geran.. need to ask developer and if geran already have.. i will be charge again...
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Perhaps you should visit their firm to understand breakdown of costs.

QUOTE(kheechun @ Jul 19 2020, 10:48 AM)
Hi, may I know what is the best loan for purchasing subsale to get now?
I enquired regarding Bank of China, BR = 2.55%
1st and 2nd year BR + 0.3% = 2.85%
3rd year onwards BR + 0.45% = 3.0%
of course the BR will increase when economy better
Is this a good loan to take?
Please advise, thanks! notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Seems good rate from BOC. Been hearing they are offering good rates in mortgage recently.

Personally, I never use services from BOC so cant share you the client experience.

But since this is the floating rate, the rate will be gradually increase when economy stabilised.


QUOTE(ben_king1991 @ Jul 19 2020, 10:53 AM)
Getting a loan of 230k approved with MRTA but the interest rate is 3.55percent, seems a bit steep?
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I would say still acceptable cause most of banks are offering better rate if loan amount exceeds 300k. Or do you want to try other banks before your finalise the deal?

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post Jul 19 2020, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 19 2020, 04:59 PM)
What I mean is after the joint loan purchase, will the second purchase consider that The first purchase joint loan as a 50-50 loan instead of a full loan.

E.g: first house is purchased with joint loan, with a monthly installment of RM1.6k per month. When buying a second house, DSR calculation of the first loan will be taken as 1.6k or 1.6k/2 since it is joint loan?

Thanks.
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Ahh my apologies. Yes, the monthly commitment will be divided by 2. There are banks still calculate commitment divided by 2 despite there are more than 2 borrowers. So I suggest you to submit your bank offer letter to mitigate the DSR
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post Jul 22 2020, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(freshinewbie @ Jul 21 2020, 10:34 PM)
Dear sifu, as a full comm earner any bank recommend for housing loan? Because i heard tiger Bank only take 50% income to calculate. Any advise?
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May I help you calculate loan eligibility before you apply another bank?

Age
Single name/Joint name (please indicate the number of borrower)

Commission Earner
- Average 6 months commissions

Monthly commitment
- Housing loan
- Hire Purchase
- Personal Loan
- Credit card
- Other term loans
- PTPTN loan

Supporting document
- rental income, savings, FD, shares, dividends and etc

Property details
- Purchase price
- Type of property (landed/condo/etc)
- Land size
- Built up (Applicable to high rise/Semi D/Bungalow)
- Any renovation and estimated costs

QUOTE(jccf23 @ Jul 22 2020, 10:50 AM)
Just gotten loan quote under PBB

(MRTA applied)
1st yr 2.27+0.58 = 2.85%
2nd yr 2.27+0.7 = 2.97%

(MRTA non applied)
2.27+0.83 = 3.1%

Rates seems a bit high as well, anyone get better quote from others bank recently?
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Are you looking for similar rate with or without MRTA?

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post Jul 23 2020, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(freshinewbie @ Jul 22 2020, 01:36 PM)
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1 borrower
20k average 6 mths comm

Housing loan 3100
Car loan 1600

Loan eligibility and please recommend any bank is good?
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Max about 1.8 mil, can consider HLB, SCB and Alliance bank.

Are you buying project or Subsale?

QUOTE(shaoching @ Jul 22 2020, 04:23 PM)
Dear Sifus,
may I know how soon we need to pay the legal fee and loan fee to the lawyer? is it immediate once they start the process? or can it pay by stage billing? how if after paid the lawyer start to slow down or not responsive?
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After you have signed the loan agreement, lawyer will send you the billing.


QUOTE(soulred777 @ Jul 22 2020, 10:22 PM)
Dear sifus, 1st time buyer here. Islamic loan better or conventional loan better? Plz advise. Tqvm 🙏🏻
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Conventional will have lock in period for 3-5 years and no ceiling rate.

Some banks do impose lock in period on Islamic loan and ceiling rate is around 10-13%

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post Jul 30 2020, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(sitosbiuh @ Jul 29 2020, 09:42 PM)
Preloan eligibility check

Income
Gross: MYR 10,000

Commitment
Hire purchase: MYR 1200
Ptptn: MYR 200
Currently looking at a project which is under construction.
SPA 824,880
What the possible loan sum (if any)?
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What’s your current age? Looking for single or joint name to get financing?
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post Jul 31 2020, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(sitosbiuh @ Jul 30 2020, 06:22 PM)
age: 29, single name

HLB banker told us might slash to 85% or 80%. Haven't know is it confirm & whats the reason yet.
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HLB usually will slash margin for projects with cash rebate.


QUOTE(wrl1992 @ Jul 31 2020, 09:08 AM)
I am a first home buyer and recently booked a unit. However, the project will only officially launched in Sept / Oct 2020.

Most likely I would confirm the unit once it is officially launched. What do you recommend for the timing in applying loans? Any recommended banks for me to check out? TQ
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You may submit for approval first
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post Aug 2 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(HoneyBadger @ Aug 1 2020, 02:46 PM)
sifu,

Looking to refinance and consolidate my existing mortgages ~530k @3.27%. Any sifu can recommend agents?
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May i check your loan eligibility prior to submission?

Which bank the property pledged to?

Property ownership is under single name/joint name?

Age
Single name/Joint name (please indicate the number of borrower)

Commission Earner
- Average 6 months commissions

Self employed
- Year of establishment
- Nature of Business
- Type of company setup (Sole prop, partnerships, Sdn Bhd, LLP)
- Average 6 months credited amount in company bank statement
- 2 years income tax declaration + proof of payment

Monthly commitment
- Housing loan
- Hire Purchase
- Personal Loan
- Credit card
- Other term loans
- PTPTN loan

Supporting document (optional)
- rental income, savings, FD, shares, dividends and etc

Property details
- Purchase price/Open Market Value
- Type of property (landed/condo/etc)
- Land size
- Built up (Applicable to high rise/Semi D/Bungalow)
- Any renovation and estimated costs
Are you looking for similar rate with or without MRTA?


QUOTE(josephlauthh93 @ Aug 1 2020, 05:26 PM)
2 borrower.

Main
27
Monthly Avrage Comm across 6 month: RM 11k
monthly commitment: RM 5k

Joint
49
Monthly Salary : RM 4k net
monthly commitment : RM 450

Eligible loan amount how much?
And which bank should i go for
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Approximately 1.2 mil.

May i know if you purchasing projects or subsale?
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post Aug 2 2020, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(oha123 @ Aug 2 2020, 03:16 PM)
Hi Sifus,

I'm planning to buy a completed project (developer unit). Will the bank consider giving a 90% loan??? Heard from 1 agent that the bank will not give 90% loan as the project has completed....Anyone here knows ka?
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Not that I know of. Banks do finance for undercon or completed units from developer with 90% margin, however subject to approval

QUOTE(josephlauthh93 @ Aug 2 2020, 08:56 PM)
Completed 4 years ago. Direct from developer
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Will need to check verbal valuations on property. Any rebate/discount given by the developer?
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post Aug 3 2020, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(KIT39 @ Aug 3 2020, 07:40 AM)
Hi there,

wanted to purchase 2nd subsales units estimate 900k and want to know % of bank loan will approved

Joint

gross income 24k

current commitments
House-2200
hire purchase-2450

age 43.

thanks
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Income is within guideline. Just to make sure any credit card utilisation to be less than 80% of total credit limit to avoid any margin slash
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post Aug 4 2020, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(armyonfire @ Aug 3 2020, 07:05 PM)
Hi everyone. Hope everyone is doing safe. Not sure if this is the correct place to ask but I’ll try.

Recently I’ve got approval for my housing loan at 2.9 p.a for 35 years. And their criteria is to have a pbe bank credit card together with the loan. Currently the housing loan has been approve and I’ve sign the letter of offer. However for the credit card, their HQ applied for me 50k (as per my ccris report). What are the chances of the credit card approval?

I’ve asked my local branch banker they did not know much about it as it is applied by the HQ. I’m okay with the credit card limit, but funny is my pay is only 5k. Are they giving me 10x of my salary for the credit card? Or it is only applied for and later will be approved accordingly?

Thank you so much
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From my experience, usually bank will approve the credit limit 2-3 times of your monthly gross income. But who knows

QUOTE(Eriugam @ Aug 3 2020, 07:18 PM)
Hello all,

I'm looking to purchase my first property (3br/2bth/3cp condo, undercon, scheduled for end of 2022 completion) valued at 630k, by the end of HOC 20. I've done some preliminary investigation and would highly appreciate it if someone else could validate my numbers/plan.

Age: 27

Gross Salary: 8.1k fixed, OTE: 10k

Monthly commitments: 0, am saving 2.5k per month in Stashaway with returns of 12% to date.

CTOS score: 773, last checked 1st August 2020

I currently have 40k in cash, and am targeting to have at least 56k, before the tentative purchase date in March 2021. I just started a new job, and want my bank statement to reflect at least 6 months of this new payment scheme.

My existing plan is to pay 7% in down-payment (44.1k) and finance the remaining 93% (586k). This should translate to around a monthly installment of 2.3k per month at 3.15% for 35 years. I also intend to rent out the 2 remaining bedrooms for at least 950 total monthly.

I'd prefer minimize the down-payment (between 5% to 8%) and do some basic renovation to make my 2 available bedrooms more attractive to renters, before dumping the remaining cash into other investment vehicles.

Can anyone comment about the loan numbers or overall plan? Thanks!
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DSR is within guideline since no commitment. Is there any joint borrower for your application.

Usually clean CCRIS will require to show your liquid assets or preferably joint name to acquire the loan.

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QUOTE(myrancid @ Aug 4 2020, 02:09 PM)
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Hi expert, this quotation is good or I can get better than this now? Bank Tiger
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Ahh same rate as my client got for loan amount 550k. Pretty decent package.

3.05% effective rate and ceiling rate at 10%

QUOTE(gordonchin @ Aug 4 2020, 02:36 PM)
Is LHDN tax return crucial in housing loan application?
30 year old commission earner in healthcare industry, last year tax return income about 190k.

Savings, shares and annual pay slip as proof should be sufficient for 1.3m loan. But EPF not much.
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For commission earner and self employed, bank will derive either from your commission slip/company bank statement or income tax declaration (preferably 2 years declaration)

Need info below to conduct loan eligibility pre-check

Age
No of of borrower

Commission earner
- Average 6 months commission in last 6 months

Monthly commitment
- Housing Loan
- Hire Purchase
- Personal Loan
- Total credit cards usage / Total credit limit
- Other term loans

Supporting document (optional)
- rental
- savings
- FD
- Shares
- Bonuses
- Dividends
- Etc

Property info
- project/subsale
- Property address
- Type of property (landed/condo/etc)
- Land size
- Built up
- Any renovation and estimated costs?
QUOTE(Cincailah @ Aug 4 2020, 03:02 PM)
Dear experts, the amount of income tax you pay will affect the for housing loan application? income tax for form B usually bank's will see the gross income or chargeable income?
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Usually base on net income. Are you comm earner or self employed with own company?
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post Aug 7 2020, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(roci @ Aug 6 2020, 06:08 PM)
Hi,

Im working in o&g sector, which bank allow to give mortgage to people who are in o&g sector?

And, what is the lowest rate of that bank?

Thank you
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if you are salaried employee, then should be fine. As long as your DSR and scoring are within bank guideline most likely bank will approve the case, unless the case was rejected due to non favorable target segment of property area.

If you are self employed under O&G sector, then subject to whether you are in upstream or downstream sector. Downstream sector such as man power supply. maintenance/services, land clearing and etc are still favorable for the banks.

QUOTE(boo82 @ Aug 7 2020, 12:14 AM)
Sifus,

I got 2 offer. Which is better and why? I am kinda confuse now.
As you see below, both gives the same ELR but which 1 is better in long run let's say 30 years? Pick lower BR or lower spread?

A) 2.63 + 0.27 = ELR 2.9
B) 2.27 + 0.63 = ELR 2.9

Thanks.
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I personally will choose with lower BR, who knows the bank A will increase the rate at any time if they deem the operation costs are exceeding their expectations.

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