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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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Argiope
post Mar 3 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 2 2016, 11:56 PM)
Since this is a refinance case, you may be allowed to hold the loan prior to the instruction from the lawyer to the bank for the disbursement, but I am not sure since you're going to put it on hold for 8 more months with the reason that you don't need the loan. You will need to get the advise of the lawyer you're appointing on this. Different banks have different guidelines. If the UOB banker mentioned you can do so, please double confirm it with the lawyer.
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But the lawyer is also appointed by the bank - should i still ask? Generally speaking, even if i have signed the LO but do not plan to execute it at the end of the day, i have no obligation or whatsoever, right?
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post Mar 3 2016, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 3 2016, 09:40 AM)
But the lawyer is also appointed by the bank - should i still ask? Generally speaking, even if i have signed the LO but do not plan to execute it at the end of the day, i have no obligation or whatsoever, right?
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If you've signed the LO, you've agreed to it's terms and condition, if the lawyer is appointed by the bank, they would have done some of the paperwork prior to your disbursement, should you choose to delay too long, they will consider you would have to do cancellation prior to the loan disbursement and you will need to pay the cancellation fees + legal fees incurred.

Once you've signed the LO, the bank will hold this reserve of 400k for your refinance, and it's not being utilized by another borrower, the bank would want to disburse the money to you ASAP, not delay it longer because they want to earn your interest.

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post Mar 3 2016, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 3 2016, 09:45 AM)
If you've signed the LO, you've agreed to it's terms and condition, if the lawyer is appointed by the bank, they would have done some of the paperwork prior to your disbursement, should you choose to delay too long, they will consider you would have to do cancellation prior to the loan disbursement and you will need to pay the cancellation fees + legal fees incurred.

Once you've signed the LO, the bank will hold this reserve of 400k for your refinance, and it's not being utilized by another borrower, the bank would want to disburse the money to you ASAP, not delay it longer because they want to earn your interest.
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Haha yeah i have also asked about those. Cancellation fee can seek waiver (and officer said most likely will be approved) whereas legal fee is not applicable yet since the law firm has not started to process my loan.
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post Mar 3 2016, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(hhy @ Mar 3 2016, 01:25 AM)
yaya good analysis for me smile.gif but throughout the whole process, the banker never mention about the flexi loan thingy. So i guess i should direct ask him tomorrow. but the lawyer is from bank side, how we can secure the plan i am getting is full flexi loan?
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Dear hhy,

If you wanna check whether it is full flexi or semi flexi, simple, just check the Letter offer whether they mention any withdrawal fees, because full flexi won't have any withdrawal fees.

below is the difference between the 2
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Full flexi:

1) current account tied to loan account
2) auto debit from current account at month end and interest is calculated based on outstanding balance minus amount in current account
3) maintenance charge of RM10 per month
4) setup/ processing fee of Rm200 (certain bank)
5)The liquidity comes in the form of an ATM card or a linked CASA account to the housing loan. 
Example: You have a shop that is opened Monday to Satuday, rest on Sunday. On Saturday, you deposit all your proceeds of the week into the flexi account, on Sunday, you would save [(your-HL-interest-rate)/365]*AmountDeposited worth of interest. On Monday, you withdraw the money to run your business
6) Withdrawal of money or crediting of money through ATM,CHEQUE,OVER THE COUNTER, or online

Semi Flexi

semi flexi package typically has these features:
1) requires you to phone in to indicate the extra payment as early settlement of advance payments
2) if you fail to indicate, you will be charged 1% (some banks do this afaik)
3) if you indicate advance payment, no additional interest is saved as "advance" payment will only be credited to your loan account when it reaches your cycle date, so it is plain advance payments. and must be in multiple of your monthly payment.
4) For redrawable prepayments, you need to indicate separately and Redraw charge of RM50 is imposed (M*B charge Rm25)
5) Withdrawal of money or crediting of money through Cheque or Over the counter

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post Mar 3 2016, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(mangoproperty @ Mar 3 2016, 10:05 AM)
SPA: own company
Borrower: own company
Guarantor: other non-related company.

No company before this, the first and only company age one year.
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Dear mangoproperty,

1. If use company as guarantor only Commercial and SME Loan can do so. console.gif

2. If residential loan, it couldn't be done.

This post has been edited by Madgeniusfigo: Mar 3 2016, 07:41 PM
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post Mar 3 2016, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 3 2016, 12:14 AM)
As mentioned earlier, my loan has been approved. But right now there is no urgency in getting the money - most likely i need it only end of this year. The bank has been persuading me to sign the LO now to secure the terms and execute the legal part in Aug. The bank will need few months for finalization and disbursement. Is this advisable?
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Dear Argiope,

1. It would be advisable to reapply the loan aorund october.

2. It depends on your property whether it is:

a. leasehold/ freehold
b. master title or strata title
c. Kl or selangor
d. Refinance or top up

3. If you top up your mortgage loan, free hold, strata title, selangor. It will take around 1month only. Hence, I need to know the details of your property, so that I can calculate the exact time to refinance/top up till the time you need the cash. And to advise you whether it is advisable to execute the current refinance loan.
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post Mar 3 2016, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 3 2016, 07:38 PM)
Dear mangoproperty,

1. If use company as guarantor only Commercial and SME Loan can do so. console.gif

2. If residential loan, it couldn't be done.
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Yes I'm planning to go for commercial, just wanna know which banks can do that under my circumstances.
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post Mar 3 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 3 2016, 10:35 AM)
Haha yeah i have also asked about those. Cancellation fee can seek waiver (and officer said most likely will be approved) whereas legal fee is not applicable yet since the law firm has not started to process my loan.
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Ahh okay, then you just decide smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2016, 03:21 PM

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Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) said a maximum loan tenure of 35 years is “more than sufficient” for borrowers to settle their housing loan by their retirement age.

It said increasing the loan tenure will further add to the cost of financing without significant improvements in the affordability of the borrowers’ monthly installments.

http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...age-more-enough
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post Mar 4 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 2 2016, 09:39 PM)
Dear yunbo,

Yes, if the property is still under master title, bank would be reluctant to finance you the cash. So it would be hard for you to sell the property or buying this particular property. Because the title owner is still under the developer, whereby more than 10 years still haven't divide the ownership to strata/individual title. Something must be wrong.
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Yeah, I think that was the case with my relative. The loan got rejected because the developer was winding up but the seller hasn't applied for strata or something, hence the property is still under master title. Agent persisted to continue signing for S&P, but 3 banks rejected the loan already
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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 03:48 PM)
Yeah, I think that was the case with my relative. The loan got rejected because the developer was winding up but the seller hasn't applied for strata or something, hence the property is still under master title. Agent persisted to continue signing for S&P, but 3 banks rejected the loan already
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As usual, agent would just want to earn your commission.
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post Mar 4 2016, 04:07 PM

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(i) Gross Monthly Salary: RM5100 (Annual RM61,620)
(ii) Gross Annual Incentive + Bonus + Allowances (EA 2015): RM68,500
(iii) Annual Cash Dividend 2015, 2014: RM24,000

Commitment:
Shoplot Loan RM650

Queries:
a) if I’m not mistaken, bank may let us take out a loan with a monthly payment equal to 30% of gross monthly income. So, from that income figure above.. does bank take into account (i) only? or all (i), (ii) & (iii)?

b) What is the property value range that the person eligible to purchase?
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan

c) If willing to pay monthly instalment of RM2,500, what will be the eligible purchase value?

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post Mar 4 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 04:07 PM)
Age: 42

Income:
(i) Gross Monthly Salary: RM5100 (Annual RM61,620)
(ii) Gross Annual Incentive + Bonus + Allowances (EA 2015): RM68,500
(iii) Annual Cash Dividend 2015, 2014: RM24,000

Commitment:
Shoplot Loan RM650

Queries:
a) if I’m not mistaken, bank may let us take out a loan with a monthly payment equal to 30% of gross monthly income. So, from that income figure above.. does bank take into account (i) only?  or all (i), (ii) & (iii)?

b) What is the property value range that the person eligible to purchase?
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan

c) If willing to pay monthly instalment of RM2,500, what will be the eligible purchase value?
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What are you planning to purchase? a house ? a commercial unit ?

Location of the property ?

What's the dividend % for 2015 and 2014 ?

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Mar 4 2016, 04:11 PM
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post Mar 4 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 4 2016, 04:09 PM)
What are you planning to purchase? a house ? a commercial unit ?

Location of the property ?

What's the dividend % for 2015 and 2014 ?
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Property: Residential Unit
Locatioan: KL/Selangor... maybe Negri Sembilan too (still hunting)
Dividend % for 2014, 2015 roughly about 8%
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post Mar 4 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 4 2016, 03:53 PM)
As usual, agent would just want to earn your commission.
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yeah.. and so hard to get back the earnest deposit.
threaten to bring the case to tribunal... they said they have won so many cases like this, because there's no clause "subject to loan approval"... and they can even find banks that can approve the loan

well, well, well... my relative brought the case to tribunal, and won.

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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 04:58 PM)
Property: Residential Unit
Locatioan: KL/Selangor... maybe Negri Sembilan too (still hunting)
Dividend % for 2014, 2015 roughly about 8%
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This dividend is it a ASB ?
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post Mar 4 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 4 2016, 05:18 PM)
This dividend is it a ASB ?
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yes
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post Mar 4 2016, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 04:07 PM)
Age: 42

Income:
(i) Gross Monthly Salary: RM5100 (Annual RM61,620)
(ii) Gross Annual Incentive + Bonus + Allowances (EA 2015): RM68,500
(iii) Annual Cash Dividend 2015, 2014: RM24,000

Commitment:
Shoplot Loan RM650

Queries:
a) if I’m not mistaken, bank may let us take out a loan with a monthly payment equal to 30% of gross monthly income. So, from that income figure above.. does bank take into account (i) only?  or all (i), (ii) & (iii)?

b) What is the property value range that the person eligible to purchase?
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan

c) If willing to pay monthly instalment of RM2,500, what will be the eligible purchase value?
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a) it's based on your average income from your derived income tax.

Based on what I calculated. Your nett pay is around 4613 per month

Asb is RM160 monthly

b)
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan - RM770k loan amount max
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan - RM650k loan amount max

c) RM470k max loan
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post Mar 4 2016, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 04:48 PM)
Yeah, I think that was the case with my relative. The loan got rejected because the developer was winding up but the seller hasn't applied for strata or something, hence the property is still under master title. Agent persisted to continue signing for S&P, but 3 banks rejected the loan already
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Dear Yunbo,

1. DO beware of such unethical act from the agent. If 3 bans has already rejected, there's a high possibility you won't get any loan approved, 20% of survival rate for this, haha. Hence, with him forcing you to sign the SPA, it is a ruthless unethical act. Dont sign'.

Do report him.

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