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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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mini orchard
post Oct 4 2023, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 4 2023, 11:33 AM)
sigh, another living example that efficiency of state public servants still never changed much despite Selangor already falls to PH since 15 years ago
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There are thousands properties in Sgor and their records are not in postal address unlike Majlis tempatan.

Everyone must have the Lot No., PT No., Geran, Mukim etc to search or inquire.

And you must also know where is your file located. There are several land offices in Sgor.

These records are since colonial time.



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post Oct 6 2023, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(eugenepoon @ Oct 6 2023, 06:01 PM)
Hi,

Anyone using MBB Semi Flexi loan? Have some questions about it before signing the LO.

I am still blur after the banker explanation.
Please PM me or reply to this message. Thanks!
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Why don't you post the questions here so that the right people can answer it.

There is no wrong questions but only wrong answers who do not know the subject matter.

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post Oct 6 2023, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(SnowWhiteTan @ Oct 6 2023, 08:32 PM)
Banker told me if go for Islamic housing loan, there's no lock in period. Is this something to consider?
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Oct 6 2023, 08:41 PM)
Yes...
It seems like is a lubang on Loan structure
Eventually, lock in seems non-halal/not working in the so-called Islamic contract
Conventional Loan can be Locked, and Interest is serve for The Loan Rate
But Islamic loan works in a way, the customer is kind of renting from Bank. Bank own the Property.... and They probably cant lock that
Whatever we paid is more like paying rental kind of things... Islamic Loan is forbidden to take Interest as earning

So i guess is good for us...
And also good for showing good business in Bank Islamic Banking Account too..
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Most lock-in are usually 3 years but some may be more.

I don't see how it can affect borrowing decisions unless borrower want to settle it within 3 years and incur a penalty plus paying for legal fees, stamp duty, valuation fee and mrta for short duration.

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post Oct 7 2023, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(eugenepoon @ Oct 7 2023, 01:07 AM)
Alrighty here goes. I am confused about how many accounts are there, how am i able to withdraw, and how it offsets interest.

Here is what i understood.
MBB will open a mortgage loan account (there will not be a CA / SA link to this mortgage account).
So if I would like to reduce the chargeable interest on the outstanding loan, there are two ways:-

Method 1 (This one I blur)
I would need to put money into to mortgage loan account to reduce the outstanding loan amount.
How does this work? won't I just be making future payments if I put money into the mortgage account?
Apparently, this doesn't lower down the loan outstanding amount just mainly to knock off chargeable interest.

Example
500K loans, put 100K into the mortgage account. Hence chargeable interest is 400K
But it will show that the outstanding loan is still 500K
Method 2 (This one I understand)
I would need to put money into the Advance Payment option.
This will reduce the outstanding loan amount and thus reduce the chargeable interest by MBB.
And I have the flexibility to withdraw in multiples of RM1000 and chargeable RM25 per withdrawal.
Example
500K loans, put 100K into the mortgage account. Hence chargeable interest is 400K
But it will show that the outstanding loan will be 400K
To all sifus,
Is my understanding correct? Is that how option 1 works? or is there even an option 1? Am I totally confused? Haha...
Another question, Where are the Standing Instructions going to come in? Personal Saving accounts / Mortgage Account or Advance Payment Account?
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Generally, housing loan (not referring to mbb) repayment works this way ....

1. If borrower pays the stipulated monthly amount, then there is no problem with interest or principal figures.

2. If borrower pays more than the stipulated monthly amount (eg 2 months), the extra payment will be treated as advance instalment for the following month and interest will be charged as normal.

3. If borrower wants to part settle the principal, normally have to give notice to the bank and they will then deduct from the principal. The next interest chargeable will be based on the reduced amount.

Outstanding Loan is the amount borrowed.
Balance outstanding is the amount repayable (principal + interest)

Same with Credit Card terms ...

Credit Limit is the card limit shown no matter how much one has charged the card.
Balance outstanding is the amount of charged transactions minus repayments, if any.
If Balance Outstanding = Credit Limit, then the card cannot be charged further.

For SI, the money should come from Savings/Current account. If don't have one, then have to open an account.

Different banks may only have slightly different procedures and terminology but it won't be far off.

Whatever procedures, bank won't rugi but borrower must monitor their statement to ensure it is correct.

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post Oct 14 2023, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(Layfon Wolfstein @ Oct 13 2023, 11:48 PM)
Hello sifus, my loan has been approved, but I've just recently resigned from my previous company. Got a new job and will start working next month.
I haven't signed the S&P yet and I heard some banks will call and check again right before disbursement, which I'm afraid by then they'll find out that I am no longer in the company and pull back the offer as a result of that.
Any comment or advice on this? Thanks smile.gif
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I don't believed banks will just terminate a LA for reason of a job changed.

Banks approved a loan based on many factors and employment or business income is just one of it.

If you are worried, then inform the bank and it may then request the offer letter as further supporting document.

The bank has the foreclosure rights in the event of a default. It won't go to that route unless no choice.

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post Oct 17 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(yuen300 @ Oct 17 2023, 09:28 AM)
Is there any banker can recommend? Since need one for Mortgage refinancing.
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Not saying you cannot refinance but would be better to say briefly why you need one so that non banker can give their unbiased opinion.

You may be surprised to read some answers which may change your decision.

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post Oct 17 2023, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(yuen300 @ Oct 17 2023, 11:47 AM)
Well, actually was thinking about the refinance is because the current interest rate I have for my loan is quite high, it is around 4.75% (1.0% spread) from RHB.
It is high at that time as this is the only bank offer me loan during that time like around 2018.
Personally, I feel that the interest rate is quite high and hope to get a lower interest rate especially my salary has increased since then.
Furthermore, was looking at the Standard Chartered Mortgage One with Zero Cost Transfer, was thinking might be a good offer if the bank able to offer me a lower yield than RHB.
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Since you know that there are cost in refinancing, however you must also know that no lawyer and valuer are going to give free service. In addition, govt will charge stamp duty for new loan agreement.

You will not pay for refinancing cost but it will be added into the loan amount and interest will be charged.

In addition, you may need to buy new mrta and the premium will be higher due to increase age factor. However, you can terminate the old mrta and will receive a small refund. But if you have purchased mlta, then it won't have additional cost.

Your new monthly repayment may also be higher, again due to age factor.

The most crucial part is your property valuation. If your current property is valued less than previous purchased price and also lower than your current outstanding loan, then you have to settle the differential sum for any refinancing to proceed.

But if is higher, then is no issue and you can even refinance a higher amount than your current outstanding loan which will then translate into paying more for refinancing cost and higher monthly instalment.

Since you purchased in 2018, and is only 5 years into the loan, the principal won't reduce much esp if you have bought new and the first two to three years are only interest payment during construction.

I do agreed your current interest rate is high but then it also depends on the amount you have borrowed. But is no harm to ask around to check which banks can offer better.

After getting the result from the bank, you do your maths to compare whether is better to refinance or stick with the current.

Sometimes, it is better to part settle the principal as and when you have available cash to reduce the interest payment than refinancing route.

With the explainations above, you form your decision.
mini orchard
post Oct 18 2023, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Are_NeeF @ Oct 17 2023, 10:25 PM)
can ask about lawyer here?
it is advisable use same lawyer for SPA and Loan documentation for subsale property?

or should i choose different lawyer?
if use same lawyer for both i think the legal fees can still nego..
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There is no conflict of interest when using same lawyer. Both are different documentations.

Unless you have reasons for using two ... eg your spa personal lawyer is not in the bank panel list. Depending on bank, the lawyer can apply for ad-hoc admission unless he is blacklisted by the bank.

Normally, a lawyer will be in a panel of few banks.

Similar to one person doing two work and two different person doing one work each, the work is better coordinated by one.

Fees can be flexible with higher billing for both.
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post Oct 19 2023, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(13af @ Oct 18 2023, 09:27 PM)
Full Flexi Loan *70% Capping for Flexi prepayment*

Could anyone kindly explain how this 70% cap works?
I heard from my banker said i loan for 600k
If i put extra payment 100k
Only 70k will be used to pay for principal even the cap is not reached
But what about that 30k?
Now i am comparing between 2 loans
3.9% with 70% cap
4.0% with no cap
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Loan is a competitive business and every bank is trying to give borrower the 'best' without sacrificing their profits.

If it cannot make money from interest, it will take from other sources.

There is no best loan package in town.
mini orchard
post Oct 19 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 19 2023, 12:48 PM)
There’s only best for your use case / situation.

Which is why comparison and study is important. Many people jump into loan without proper due diligence.

A 30~35 years commitment. I am amazed by such people.
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What due diligence ?

And you can think you can collate each bank TNC and put into one agreement ?
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post Oct 19 2023, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 19 2023, 01:42 PM)
Comparison of rates and package - repayment calculate method. I ask every banker to explain to me how their flexi works. This first step allows me to eliminate offers that don’t even worth consideration from me, such as MBB flexi.

Understanding how the “full flexi” actually differs from one bank to another

I do in fact have an excel sheet to collate each bank’s calculation method for their full flexi and formula nett me a number to compare. Very easy with excel. 

Tnc is more or less standard across all banks.
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That is why I said there is no best loan package in town.

Borrower do whatever due diligence and choose the middle ground and seldom the 'best'. Is which terms each prefer and don't mind sacrificing some other terms.

Winner and loser are in every agreement. If want to win everything, then buy cash 😂

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post Oct 22 2023, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(daredavil82 @ Oct 22 2023, 10:03 AM)
Hi

I purchased one property by paying the price according to development stages. Currently I have paid 1.2M and another 500K still remaining to payoff. The property scheduled to handover by end of 2024. My question is can I get the loan for remaining balance (500K)? Can developer stop me from getting loan for remaining balance since I signed S&P as cash buyer?

Thank you for your time to reply my question.
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In my opinion, I don't think the developer can stop a buyer from applying a bank loan during the stages of completion.

Basically, they just want the money upon billing and if the loan document cannot be completed during the next billing, then buyer has to pay first or else late interest charge will be levied.

I am not sure developer will bill buyer for additional admin charges which you have to find out.

Alternatively, if you have another loan free property of higher value than 500k, you may want to consider refinancing it.
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post Mar 23 2025, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 22 2025, 04:58 PM)
how much will be the refinancing fee? worth it?
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Fees / other cost to be incurred for refinancing .....

1. Legal fees
2. Stamp Duty for Loan Agreement
3. Valuation fees
4. Differential sum, if the financing is less than the existing outstanding loan due to lower property valuation.





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post Mar 27 2025, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Mar 25 2025, 12:22 AM)
What is the latest refinance policy gazetted by BNM? Can't seem to find it
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10 years refinancing for cash out portion.

QUOTE(ivan0826 @ Mar 27 2025, 04:03 AM)
Hi all,

Im just have my housing loan offer, but i feel the MRTA pricing is abit higher

Loan : RM470000

MRTA : 1st Person 9800 (cover 100k for 33yrs)
2nd person 9600 (cover 120k for 33yrs)

Tenure: 33Yrs
Total Loan : 489,400
Interest Rate 3.85%

Is the MRTA fee normal for 20k covering 220K? doh.gif
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The mrta coverage sum is not enough for the loan sum.
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post Mar 27 2025, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ivan0826 @ Mar 27 2025, 12:43 PM)
if fully cover,the MRTA charge RM50K 😓 10% of the house
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There are costs to property ownership.

Maybe you can consider to buy one mrta for the breadwinner and use the other premium to increase the coverage.

Can also buy PA.

Mix and match for higher protection if cannot have full mrta.
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post Mar 28 2025, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Mar 28 2025, 01:01 AM)
I'm currently in progress of purchasing a house, I have question about loan application.

My situation I have mortgage broker
(introduced by prop agent) submitted for loan application on behalf to multiple banks, but now I'm not too comfortable with the broker but he just inform me loan approved without any supplementary information like package, rate how was it compare between multi bank that he said he submitted.

And property agent pushing me to use the lawyer they suggested to sign LO.

Im planning to use my own lawyer, question is can I still submit loan application by myself to branch if broker already submit on behalf but unwilling to share information?
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Yes.

If you are not comfortable doing business with someone, go ahead to seek alternative.
mini orchard
post Apr 5 2025, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Apr 5 2025, 07:35 PM)
My housing loan for a subsale property was approved by Public Bank a few years ago. Since then, I have been paying the monthly loan installment.
Recently, I received an official letter from Public Bank, regarding the reinstatement of existing housing loan.
The letter states that:
Public Bank may reinstate existing Housing Loan to the original approved loan limit subject to Public Bank Berhad's standard terms and conditions and upon our approval of the written request. Public Bank offer attractive terms for reinstatement loan facility.
Does it mean that upon the acceptance of the reinstatement of existing housing loan, Public Bank will restore the outstanding balance of my housing loan, back to the original approved loan limit as stated in the loan agreement letter?
And, Public Bank will refund the prepayment (the additional payment I made in addition to monthly installment) to me. Is my understanding correct?
Thank you. smile.gif
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Only the principal portion.
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post Apr 7 2025, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Apr 7 2025, 08:33 PM)
Hi guys,

Can I submit loan application for two property at the same time? Will only go for 1, as I am still not sure which property to go for.

Thanks
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If you are not sure, dont buy !

Hope it is not some advised by property gurus !

One property, two or three different banks application same time ... normal.

Two properties, two different banks application SAME time .... 🧐

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post Apr 18 2025, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(tZZ @ Apr 18 2025, 02:27 PM)
Is it true that OCBC only provides loan statement at 6 months interval ?
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What is your concern ?

QUOTE(samsungXP @ Apr 18 2025, 07:48 PM)
i still got housing loan with a bank...now i want buy new property...can i borrowed loan from the same bank ?
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Yes.

At the same time, it is also good to check out what other banks are offering.
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post Apr 26 2025, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Apr 25 2025, 11:29 PM)
Banker told me if we got CC usage more than 70% of credit limit then is veey hard to get loan approved....also if we got personal loan same very hard to get loan approved...any experience ?
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Approach another banker.

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