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Madgeniusfigo
post Jan 28 2016, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Jan 28 2016, 05:56 PM)
Hey Sifus, Si-Jies,

I have an issue with Ambank Islamic term home loan.
I am buying a house, and i opted for islamic flexi loan.
However Ambank told me they no longer have a flexi loan, but their term loan is Semi-flexi.
Over the phone, the bank office has told me that if i make additional payments into the account, the interest will be reduced (calculated daily).

However all this is just verbal promise. All my reading and research online says that Term loan does not reduce interest if additional payments are made.

The officer said that if i wish to reduce the principal, i will need to write a letter, and deposit rm5000 at a time. This money cannot be withdraw. And it will be shown as reduction in principal on the statement.

However he also said that if i just bank in additional money every month, maybe few hundred each month, he says it will reduce the interest, the same as if i deposit a large amount. But will not show on the statement.

So when i asked him what is the difference he says "some people like to see the principal amount reduced in their statement."

I have signed a loan offer, but waiting on loan agreement documents.

Is it true that nowadays "term loan" from ambank is so called semi-flexi? Or are these guys just telling me what i want to hear.
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Dear Win44,

1. For Ambank, islamic loan will be semi flexi. Term loan and semi flexi is different, don't mix it up.

Semi flexi is semi flexi
term loan is term loan

However, what you haev definitely is ambank islamic loan semi flexi, meaning to say, you can reduce your capital by cashing in extra cash into your capital account, you need to give notification in advance for withdrawal or crediting of cash from the capital account. It is daily rest

Advance notification is needed in order to credit the cash into capital account, else the cash will be credited into advanced account, whereby the cash can't be withdraw and act as advance installment payment in the future.

2. For installment part, if you pay extra installment, your mortgage loan tenure will be reduced as you are paying more towards capital.

example

Rm300k loan
4.5%
35 years

Installment monthly = RM1419.77

First month interest payment will be RM1125

Hence, paying towards capital will be RM294.77 (1419.77-1125)

If you pay extra RM200 + RM1419.77 = RM 1619.77

You will be paying more towards capital Rm294.77+rm200= rm494.77-----> capital

Hence, your loan tenure will be reduce ( given the interest base rate remains)

However, extra installment cash paid can't be withdraw, do take note.

3. I can't recall ambank withdrawal multiple, usually in the multiple of RM1000 RM2000 RM5000. Do call ambank customer call centre for verification on this
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post Jan 29 2016, 10:09 AM

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May I know how's the financing like for an uncompleted property? Never purchase uncompleted before, how's the procedure like to purchase uncompleted or near completion property? Can we get the bank loan and what are the repayments like? Thanks in advance!
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post Jan 29 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Jan 28 2016, 05:53 PM)
Dear Win44,

1. For Ambank, islamic loan will be semi flexi. Term loan and semi flexi is different, don't mix it up.

Semi flexi is semi flexi
term loan is term loan

However, what you haev definitely is ambank islamic loan semi flexi, meaning to say, you can reduce your capital by cashing in extra cash into your capital account, you need to give notification in advance for withdrawal or crediting of cash from the capital account. It is daily rest

Advance notification is needed in order to credit the cash into capital account, else the cash will be credited into advanced account, whereby the cash can't be withdraw and act as advance installment payment in the future.

2. For installment part, if you pay extra installment, your mortgage loan tenure will be reduced as you are paying more towards capital.

example

Rm300k loan
4.5%
35 years

Installment monthly = RM1419.77

First month interest payment will be RM1125

Hence, paying towards capital will be RM294.77 (1419.77-1125)

If you pay extra RM200 + RM1419.77 = RM 1619.77

You will be paying more towards capital Rm294.77+rm200= rm494.77-----> capital

Hence, your loan tenure will be reduce ( given the interest base rate remains)

However, extra installment cash paid can't be withdraw, do take note.

3. I can't recall ambank withdrawal multiple, usually in the multiple of RM1000 RM2000 RM5000. Do call ambank customer call centre for verification on this
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Thanks for the info!
So if i pay additional monthly payment into the account they gave me, it will automatically pay towards capital?
My main concern is reduction of ultimate interest paid. I dont mind if the extra payment is non withdrawable.

Over the phone they tell me it is a "term" loan. he used the word term very cleary. but the officer also said extra payments will reduce the tenure.. etc.
Thats where the confusion is coming from.

I dont mind paying an extra RM400 /month (for eg.) if it will reduce my interest paid by RM100k in the end.

This post has been edited by win44: Jan 29 2016, 10:17 AM
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post Jan 29 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 29 2016, 10:09 AM)
May I know how's the financing like for an uncompleted property? Never purchase uncompleted before, how's the procedure like to purchase uncompleted or near completion property? Can we get the bank loan and what are the repayments like? Thanks in advance!
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Uncompleted project could be due to developer bankrupt already and thus it's harder to obtain loan unless a developer has taken over the project
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QUOTE(win44 @ Jan 29 2016, 10:15 AM)
Thanks for the info!
So if i pay additional monthly payment into the account they gave me, it will automatically pay towards capital?
My main concern is reduction of ultimate interest paid. I dont mind if the extra payment is non withdrawable.

Over the phone they tell me it is a "term" loan. he used the word term very cleary. but the officer also said extra payments will reduce the tenure.. etc.
Thats where the confusion is coming from.

I dont mind paying an extra RM400 /month (for eg.) if it will reduce my interest paid by RM100k in the end.
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Then you should opt for full flexi loan.
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post Jan 29 2016, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 26 2016, 02:05 PM)
If u plan to refinance 400k, the Loan agreement would be about 5k - 6k
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post Jan 29 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Jan 26 2016, 02:17 PM)
Dear kwaick,

For the loan amount you stated Rm400k

Legal loan fees will be around Rm4000-RM8000
Valuation will be Rm800-Rm1000
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Thank you very much!!

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post Jan 29 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 29 2016, 11:09 AM)
May I know how's the financing like for an uncompleted property? Never purchase uncompleted before, how's the procedure like to purchase uncompleted or near completion property? Can we get the bank loan and what are the repayments like? Thanks in advance!
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Dear charlz,

Uncompleted property (underconstruction)

1. You can't do pre approval loan
2. You get feebies, discount, rebate, you name it. 10-20% for certain properties. Hence you get free cash out for purchasing the unit, given that the developer honor the deal.
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For uncompleted property and near completion property. The process is almost the same.

Before property completed, you will need to pay progressive interest, which follows the schedule of payment as below:

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1) 10% Downpayment

2) 15% stg 2a (Pilling / below ground works)

3) 10% stg 2b (Concrete slab for your unit

4) 10% stg 2c (bricks wall)

5) 10%stg 2d (internal piping and wiring)

6) 10% stg 2e (internal and external wall plastering

7) 5% stg 2f (sewerage serving the building)

8) 5% stg 2g (drainage serving the building)

9) 5% stg 2h (Road serving the building)

10) another 20% upon VP (splits down to 12.5+5+2.5)

So for example, your property is 500k. after the bank release the first payment (example : 15% = 55k to the developer)

which means u have to pay the loan interest of 55k x (your bank interest rate) . (Note : INterest rate only, without Principal)


1. If you purchase a near completed property, lets say disbursement at stage No.7, you will be paying progressive interest based on the disbursement of 60% of the loan amount.

Difference is which stage of payment you are at and how much you need to pay.

2. Buying near complete property doesn't necessary means developer wind up, it could due to low demand on the property hence units only capable being sold at later stage.

3. You will still follow same process, sign booking form, sign Letter offer, sign SPA.

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post Jan 29 2016, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Jan 29 2016, 11:15 AM)
Thanks for the info!
So if i pay additional monthly payment into the account they gave me, it will automatically pay towards capital?
My main concern is reduction of ultimate interest paid. I dont mind if the extra payment is non withdrawable.

Over the phone they tell me it is a "term" loan. he used the word term very cleary. but the officer also said extra payments will reduce the tenure.. etc.
Thats where the confusion is coming from.

I dont mind paying an extra RM400 /month (for eg.) if it will reduce my interest paid by RM100k in the end.
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Dear,

1.

Example.

Rm150k loan, 4.85%

Monthly installment Rm807

Rm807 ( Rm700 interest payment + Rm107 Capital payment)

If you pay extra Rm400 each month

Rm1207 (Rm700 interest payment + Rm507 towards capital payment)

You will pay more towards your capital, reduce interest charges, reduce loan tenure.

2. EXTRA payment on installment is non withdrawable

3. Extra cash credit into capital account with flexi account can be withdraw.

4. If you just wanted to pay extra installment, doesn't mean you must take Full flexi. semi and full features is almost the same, just the payment method and charges is different

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Full flexi:

1) current account tied to loan account
2) auto debit from current account at month end and interest is calculated based on outstanding balance minus amount in current account
3) maintenance charge of RM10 per month
4) setup/ processing fee of Rm200 (certain bank)
5)The liquidity comes in the form of an ATM card or a linked CASA account to the housing loan. 
Example: You have a shop that is opened Monday to Satuday, rest on Sunday. On Saturday, you deposit all your proceeds of the week into the flexi account, on Sunday, you would save [(your-HL-interest-rate)/365]*AmountDeposited worth of interest. On Monday, you withdraw the money to run your business
6) Withdrawal of money or crediting of money through ATM,CHEQUE,OVER THE COUNTER, or online

Semi Flexi

semi flexi package typically has these features:
1) requires you to phone in to indicate the extra payment as early settlement of advance payments
2) if you fail to indicate, you will be charged 1% (some banks do this afaik)
3) if you indicate advance payment, no additional interest is saved as "advance" payment will only be credited to your loan account when it reaches your cycle date, so it is plain advance payments. and must be in multiple of your monthly payment.
4) For redrawable prepayments, you need to indicate separately and Redraw charge of RM50 is imposed (M*B charge Rm25)
5) Withdrawal of money or crediting of money through Cheque or Over the counter

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QUOTE(kwaick @ Jan 29 2016, 05:10 PM)
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post Jan 29 2016, 07:04 PM

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Thinking of refinancing my property to cash out some money and get better rate.. Which bank is better? Any bank offers zero moving cost? Current rate I got is BLR - 2.3%.. sad.gif
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post Jan 29 2016, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(cclay @ Jan 29 2016, 08:04 PM)
Thinking of refinancing my property to cash out some money and get better rate.. Which bank is better? Any bank offers zero moving cost? Current rate I got is BLR - 2.3%.. sad.gif
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Dear captain America,

Nowadays refinancing cash out quite tough, market slow, bank tighten.

1. For low interest rate ambank, cimb and Rhb. Hlbb, uob do provide low rate but dependent on ur profile. Must be very strong to get low rate.

How much is the loan amount you are planning to refinance and cash out?


Cash out portion will based on MV - outstanding balance

2. Zero moving cost offered by HSBC, rate will depends on how much the loan amount u r refinancing.
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QUOTE(cclay @ Jan 29 2016, 07:04 PM)
Thinking of refinancing my property to cash out some money and get better rate.. Which bank is better? Any bank offers zero moving cost? Current rate I got is BLR - 2.3%.. sad.gif
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Hi clay

I got 2 banks offering zero moving cost

Do let me know in PM so I may study your case and advise you accordingly


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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 29 2016, 11:15 PM)
Hi clay

I got 2 banks offering zero moving cost

Do let me know in PM so I may study your case and advise you accordingly
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Zero moving cost would translate into higher interest rate? Anything exceeding 5% would be considered high
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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Jan 30 2016, 11:50 AM)
Zero moving cost would translate into higher interest rate? Anything exceeding 5% would be considered high
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Depends on your mortgage strategy

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Jan 30 2016, 11:55 AM
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post Jan 30 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Jan 30 2016, 12:50 PM)
Zero moving cost would translate into higher interest rate? Anything exceeding 5% would be considered high
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Dear netcrawler,

I will give you scenario on the difference here.

1.
ZMC

600k loan, 4.7% interest rate, free legal and valuation, 35 years loan tenure.

Total interest charged Rm624,010


No ZMC

600k loan, 4.4% interest rate, finance legal and valuation fees into loan, 35yeara loan tenure.
Total loan finance is rm620k

Total interest charged RM Rm596,282


Differ by rm27,728. You will gain more from not taking ZMC, because of the high interest and interest charges.

2. IMHO, if you are aiming for short term flip for ur prop, ZMC will be better, lower total payment compare to without ZMC.

However, if your prop will tank for more than 20years, without ZMC will be a better choice.

3. It depends on ur prop investment objective.

4. ZMC highest interest charges is 4.8%, depends on ur loan amount though.

5. IMHO, both is almost the same thing. Different structure ways to present it self. Same thing though
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Jan 29 2016, 07:35 PM)
Dear captain America,

Nowadays refinancing cash out quite tough, market slow, bank tighten.

1. For low interest rate ambank, cimb and Rhb. Hlbb, uob do provide low rate but dependent on ur profile. Must be very strong to get low rate.

How much is the loan amount you are planning to refinance and cash out?
Cash out portion will based on MV - outstanding balance

2. Zero moving cost offered by HSBC, rate will depends on how much the loan amount u r refinancing.
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Still owe PBB principal around RM 380K. Property worth about RM 550K now. Can only refinance to 20 years only..
What's the option, bro?
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QUOTE(cclay @ Jan 30 2016, 04:58 PM)
Still owe PBB principal around RM 380K. Property worth about RM 550K now. Can only refinance to 20 years only..
What's the option, bro?
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Cash out is still possible.

AIA provides zmc fixed rate 4.99% and calculate up to 20 years

If you're looking for cash out then I need to further understand your future planning
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Hi lifebalance,

For ZMC package at 4.99% interest rate, what is the monthly installment for 25 years
with loan amount 650K (310K cash out)?

This post has been edited by netcrawler: Jan 30 2016, 10:30 PM
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post Jan 30 2016, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Jan 30 2016, 10:29 PM)
Hi lifebalance,

For ZMC package at 4.99% interest rate, what is the monthly installment for 25 years
with loan amount 650K (310K cash out)?
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That will be RM3796 per month

4.99% is fixed rate means won't increase or decrease with BR or BLR.

Would be advantages in current market condition where rates are increasing.

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Jan 30 2016, 10:56 PM

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