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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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post Jan 15 2016, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(putra23 @ Jan 14 2016, 03:14 PM)
What is the difference between Maybank Islamic loan and Maybank MaxiHome loan?
I'm told the effective rate is the same. There is no lock-in period for Islamic but 3 years for conventional. If so, why would people choose Maxihome over Islamic?
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There are higher fees being charged in the legal fees, about 20% more.
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post Jan 15 2016, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Jan 12 2016, 06:05 PM)
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1. Due to it's 3rd property refinance, it will be come 3rd mortgage loan, hence it will only be eligible for 70% margin of finance.

2. Possible way 1. refinance 2 of the current mortgage loan, you will be eligible for 90%

3. Possible way 2, settle either 1 of the mortgage loan

4. Possible way 3, 3rd party financing, SPA A+B name, borrower B name. Hence debt and income will based on B. Find a family member B who has mortgage loan less than 2 mortgage loan.
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Suprisingly I got MOF 90% for remortgage the 3rd house. I do not know why, but I just keep quite la, don't want to create unnecessary issue :-). Monday will sign the offer letter.
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post Jan 16 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(kusyah @ Jan 15 2016, 07:58 PM)
Suprisingly I got MOF 90% for remortgage the 3rd house. I do not know why, but I just keep quite la, don't want to create unnecessary issue :-). Monday will sign the offer letter.
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Becareful if it's the mistake of the bank to release that money after they have discovered such error. They will demand you to return back the extra financing for not disclosing such error.
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post Jan 16 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 16 2016, 02:12 PM)
Becareful if it's the mistake of the bank to release that money after they have discovered such error. They will demand you to return back the extra financing for not disclosing such error.
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Agreed. They have the rights if there are evidences that there are misrepresentation of facts in the loan application & approval process.
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post Jan 17 2016, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 16 2016, 02:43 PM)
Agreed. They have the rights if there are evidences that there are misrepresentation of facts in the loan application & approval process.
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But it's not my fault. Anyway I've declared that this is my 3rd property, even the loan officer well aware on that. She said no problem on that. If 3rd property to be refinanced still not not free from encumbrance, then only MOF 70%. That's what she told me la. All the documentations already pass to the bank. Anyway it's not my job to find the error.
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post Jan 17 2016, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(kusyah @ Jan 17 2016, 12:47 PM)
But it's not my fault. Anyway I've declared that this is my 3rd property, even the loan officer well aware on that. She said no problem on that. If 3rd property to be refinanced still not not free from encumbrance, then only MOF 70%. That's what she told me la. All the documentations already pass to the bank. Anyway it's not my job to find the error.
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Yes I agree with you notwithstanding the bank's rights which are so wide in the first place.

Let them find an ambicable solution should they realise their mistake later on but most time, the bank will let go rather than make a fuss out of it. They're still covered and making profit.
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post Jan 18 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Jan 14 2016, 05:31 PM)
Dear,

The imminent difference between those two package is Conventional vs islamic loan.

There's underlying difference between this 2, lets dissect it.

1. Islamic loan, you are required to pay extra 20% on the legal loan because for islamic loan, you are required to sign few more extra documentation, hence it translate into higher stamp duty fees.

2. islamic loan nowadays, most of the banks offered BBA instead of musyarakah mustanaqisah. BBA follows traditional loan structure whereby Letter offer will show total payment including interest, hence you will see a massive amount stated in your letter offer. However, there's ceiling rate 9.99% for your loan. Then what if you settle your loan earlier, what happen to the stated total payment amount stated in my letter offer? How much rebate will I received at the end? Letter offer doesn't state clearly the calculation for the rebate, hence it is quite vague.

For musyarakah mustanaqisah, it follow according the conventional loan struture.

3.  Islamic loan offered by most of the banks are sermi flexi only, only Alliance banks offer full flexi islamic loan.

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Full flexi:

1) current account tied to loan account
2) auto debit from current account at month end and interest is calculated based on outstanding balance minus amount in current account
3) maintenance charge of RM10 per month
4) setup/ processing fee of Rm200 (certain bank)
5)The liquidity comes in the form of an ATM card or a linked CASA account to the housing loan. 
Example: You have a shop that is opened Monday to Satuday, rest on Sunday. On Saturday, you deposit all your proceeds of the week into the flexi account, on Sunday, you would save [(your-HL-interest-rate)/365]*AmountDeposited worth of interest. On Monday, you withdraw the money to run your business
6) Withdrawal of money or crediting of money through ATM,CHEQUE,OVER THE COUNTER, or online

Semi Flexi

semi flexi package typically has these features:
1) requires you to phone in to indicate the extra payment as early settlement of advance payments
2) if you fail to indicate, you will be charged 1% (some banks do this afaik)
3) if you indicate advance payment, no additional interest is saved as "advance" payment will only be credited to your loan account when it reaches your cycle date, so it is plain advance payments. and must be in multiple of your monthly payment.
4) For redrawable prepayments, you need to indicate separately and Redraw charge of RM50 is imposed (M*B charge Rm25)
5) Withdrawal of money or crediting of money through Cheque or Over the counter


4. Not all islamic loan offered by bank are lock in period waived, RHB has 3 years lock in period for their islamic loan. Weird but facts.

5. In the end, islamic loan do offered a better alternative package, but with 20% in stamp duty cost, and the offered package isn't standard across banks. Hence, you have to be aware.
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Thanks for the explanation. I'm surprised that the rebate for BBA early settlement is not stated clearly as banks usually try to state everything clearly. The total payment can be frightening and confusing as I'm not used to it.

If the seller is paying for the documentation and there is no need for full-flexi, then islamic loan might be better with no lock-in period?

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post Jan 18 2016, 04:15 PM

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Can someone advise how is the best way to prove to bank that I collect rental income from my property without having a holding Sdn. Bhd. company? Say I have a second property under my own name and I collect rental from it. I would like to use the rental income to help me secure another loan for another property. I am already a salaried employee paying income tax. Hence, will the rental income be taxed as well? Thanks!

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post Jan 18 2016, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 18 2016, 05:15 PM)
Can someone advise how is the best way to prove to bank that I collect rental income from my property without having a holding Sdn. Bhd. company? Say I have a second property under my own name and I collect rental from it. I would like to use the rental income to help me secure another loan for another property. I am already a salaried employee paying income tax. Hence, will the rental income be taxed as well? Thanks!
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Dear Charlz,

For rental income, different bank have different way of validating it, however, I will teach you few fundamental steps to strengthen your rental validation.

1. Make sure your tenancy agreement is stamped.

2. Make sure every month the rental fees are bank in to you consistently for at least 3 months.

3. Best is 6 months bank in consistently.

4. More secured is by paying tax for rental income too.


For OCBC, you just need no.1 then your tenancy income is verified,

For Ambank, no.1 and no.2

for the rest of the banks no.1 no.2 no.3 or no.4
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:13 PM

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Stamped by who? Thanks for the feedback.
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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 18 2016, 04:15 PM)
Can someone advise how is the best way to prove to bank that I collect rental income from my property without having a holding Sdn. Bhd. company? Say I have a second property under my own name and I collect rental from it. I would like to use the rental income to help me secure another loan for another property. I am already a salaried employee paying income tax. Hence, will the rental income be taxed as well? Thanks!
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you don't have to have a company under your name to claim that rental income.

You just need standard tenancy agreement and make sure the rental income is more than 3 months. Then make sure rental income goes to your bank account monthly and use the 3 months bank statement as proof of rental income.

Then you'll be able to use the rental in the loan application as extra income.
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QUOTE(putra23 @ Jan 18 2016, 04:46 PM)
Thanks for the explanation. I'm surprised that the rebate for BBA early settlement is not stated clearly as banks usually try to state everything clearly. The total payment can be frightening and confusing as I'm not used to it.

If the seller is paying for the documentation and there is no need for full-flexi, then islamic loan might be better with no lock-in period?
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Dear,

1. BBA is an old product.

2. Seller won't pay for your stamp duty or legal fees. You are the one who are going to pay for that fees.

3. Islamic loan is good in a way, OCBC does provide a comprehensive islamic loan with good deal, however, the rate for OCBC nowadays is terrible. Al raji have a good package too but the loan approval is terrible.

4. RHB islamic loan is MM, however it has 3 years lock in period.

5. However, if you are ok with semi flexi, and opt for no lock in period. Islamic loan is an alright package.
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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 18 2016, 06:13 PM)
Stamped by who? Thanks for the feedback.
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Dear,

LHDN department to stamped and verify the tenancy agreement.
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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 18 2016, 05:13 PM)
Stamped by who? Thanks for the feedback.
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LHDN.. between they charge by the amount + year of tenancy.. they have the calculatio.. if your rental $ is high then quite much u need fork up... normally is tenant pay for it ( if you rent to corporate )
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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 18 2016, 05:13 PM)
Stamped by who? Thanks for the feedback.
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Stamp by LHDN
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:31 PM

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My rental income is RM1,700 any idea how much is the LHDN stamping fee?
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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 18 2016, 05:31 PM)
My rental income is RM1,700 any idea how much is the LHDN stamping fee?
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1 year around RM72, 2/3 years around RM144
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:37 PM

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Ok thanks!
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QUOTE(charlz @ Jan 18 2016, 06:31 PM)
My rental income is RM1,700 any idea how much is the LHDN stamping fee?
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Dear,

Just follow the below table charges.
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post Jan 18 2016, 08:07 PM

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hi, work at sg salary sgd 3000 and without any commitment/debt now.
May I know easy to get 600k house loan or not? Property price 780k

thank you

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