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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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mini orchard
post Nov 24 2022, 02:38 PM

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About 30% of SnP legal fees excluding disbursements if use same snp lawyer.

QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 24 2022, 12:29 PM)
when we need change the master title to strata title ? how much it cost for property rm348k
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Range from 10 to 40 or even 50 depending on total fees. If regular customer always buy sell, more. Value of property also.

Some give discount on fees only, others on total bill, others just do rounding off.

QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 24 2022, 11:10 AM)
total loan rm402000...can i know what is the estimate total of legal fees + all fees...legal fees can be nego ?
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post Nov 24 2022, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 24 2022, 03:05 PM)
then how about the legal fees all total include stamp duty and others for rm402000 loan amount
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No discount for stamp duty. Is paid to the govt.
mini orchard
post Nov 24 2022, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 24 2022, 03:42 PM)
no i mean how much need to pay
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I oredi posted the online calculators link few times. Use that and add about 2k each disbursements for SnP and LA.

That is roughly the max b4 discount.
mini orchard
post Nov 24 2022, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 24 2022, 10:32 PM)
got discount ?
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I am not a lawyer.

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mini orchard
post Nov 25 2022, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(ekroyorke @ Nov 25 2022, 10:03 AM)
Hi Sifuss.

I am considering applying for AIA Loan to finance my purchase, but need some guidance from the Sifus here on:-

-  AIA's interest is calculated based on daily rest and reducing balance, like a normal housing loan by banks right? I'm asking because the AIA agent that's currently helping me with the application is also not sure how it works  bangwall.gif 

means, can still dump extra cash later to reduce the total interest paid, correct?
hoping for some responses from the experts from this group.

thanks!
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Read here and you can decide thereafter ....

https://ringgitplus.com/en/home-loan/AIA-Fi...-Package-1.html
mini orchard
post Nov 30 2022, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE(syzsiew5991 @ Nov 29 2022, 05:10 PM)
is this good?
tiger bank
no MRTA
800k loan
3.85%
30 years
full flexi islamic
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QUOTE(syzsiew5991 @ Nov 29 2022, 10:19 PM)
i will settle loan once it is completed in 2 years
need to take mrta?
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Doesnt matter much if is only few years

I believed you are more concern about lhdn.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Nov 30 2022, 06:10 AM
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post Dec 1 2022, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(tnang @ Nov 30 2022, 06:53 PM)
Who provide this info?? No such thing, you may kena bank penalty depend on lock in period. Rpgt only if you sell below 5 years. What to do with Anwar?
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QUOTE(Ch0wCh0w @ Nov 30 2022, 09:42 PM)
Flaming for the sake of flaming 😂
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Do your read ALL posts b4 replying ?

If your eyes missed it, not my fault lah.

And I thought anwar introduce the new act after he became pm !

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post Dec 1 2022, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Dec 1 2022, 08:48 AM)
You deleted your yesterday post 😂
Or is it someone reported you and admin delete it
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It wasnt my posting in the first place. I was just quoting a previous post. Anyway, admin deleted it.
mini orchard
post Dec 1 2022, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Ch0wCh0w @ Dec 1 2022, 10:49 AM)
I like how ALL was used. Flaming like there's no tomorrow 😂😂
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QUOTE(Ch0wCh0w @ Nov 30 2022, 12:40 AM)
We need a sifu here to answer this question, I'm a newbie 😂 no penalty for settling loan in 2 years?
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mini orchard
post Dec 2 2022, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 2 2022, 07:55 PM)
Wow can’t believe got people spewing bullshit like this to scare ppl to think MRTA is “good” and if you don’t take its “disadvantage”.

You selling loans?

MRTA is an insurance, as with ALL insurance, it’s just a tool. It doesn’t mean it is suitable or right for everyone - subject to your family status, dependents, other insurance policies you have.

Basically if you gg, MRTA will pay off the bank.

But if you buy life insurance, you gg, the insurer will pay your nominee. And with cash in hand your nominee can do anything they want.

As an example, your wife and kid is in Malaysia because of you, and your career here. She has no family members here because everyone migrated to Australia. And you have no family members. Only child, parents passed away.

What’s the use of MRTA? Get the house for what? Your wife wants to go to Australia to be with her family, and she needs MONEY.

Sure, she gets the house, then the hassle of selling it bla bla bla. And I don’t know if RPGT kicks in if her name not on the SPA and she inherit it from your will. SO MUCH HASSLE. And she is heartbroken because you’re gone and you give her so much shit to settle.

So don’t be an idiot and NEVER listen to the sales people. Do your own due diligence. Sales ppl only care about their pocket, not you. Oh did you know commission very high for MRTA? That’s why bank push.
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Best is dont buy property ... just rent lah.

Buying is too much hassle ... pay this, pay that, write will, next of kin fighting to grab etc.

Spouse dead just marry again with life payout.

And only an idiot here will buy comprehensive policy for new car ... no ?

And a non working widow with 5 young kids will thank his dead husband for buying mrta !

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Dec 3 2022, 06:32 AM
mini orchard
post Dec 8 2022, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Empty Pocket @ Dec 8 2022, 12:25 PM)
How to go about getting mortgage quotes from multiple banks? Just walk in to every branch and ask? Can anyone share how they usually get their quotes?

Some like CIMB and SC have this button to register interest on the website, then the bank agent will call back....but the 2 with the supposedly best loans (MB and PB) seem like have to apply direct at branch...
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Any bank loan officers will be able to give a verbal quote. Official only upon submission of all documents.
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post Dec 10 2022, 05:03 AM

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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Dec 10 2022, 02:10 AM)
Hi, sorry if asking noob questions…

Pro and cons of using mortgage agents vs direct deal with bank mortgage officers?

S&P lawyer- best to use the same panel lawyer recommended by bank? If use different law firm, would the legal costs remain the same or higher?
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Generally most mortgage agents would try to secured a loan for his clients but ONLY whether the deal is for their best interest or his interest. In short, all agents whether property, insurance, unit trust etc would want to earn good commission.

A lawyer handling borh SnP and LA would be able to give better 'discounts' and legal fees are oredi fix by the Bar Council except for some variation in disbursements.

A single lawyer would have less work 'problems' and shifting blame.

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post Dec 12 2022, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(chongtiensum @ Dec 12 2022, 09:39 AM)
Hi Sifu , recently i applied for house loan , when i check my eccris , i realize have additional extra personal loan which i did not applied , when i asked the banker , she mention it was insurance , can anyone explain what's going on?should i take it or not?
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Possible of the bank splitting up housing and mrta financing.

QUOTE(Empty Pocket @ Dec 12 2022, 12:24 PM)
Sorry, another noob question, this time regarding principal reduction for flexi loan...

I understand that in a flexible loan, additional prepayment allocated for principal reduction can reduce interest charged...just wondering then does this mean monthly repayment is reduced? Or monthly repayment is the same, but overall loan tenure reduced (pay off loan faster)? Do we get to choose which one happens?

Thanks for answers sifu
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It defeats the purpose of the principal prepayment and then reduce monthly repayment.

Banks normally wont reduce monthly repayment

Since it is a flexi loan, on the assumption it can be reduced, when borrower withdraw partly, increase monthly repayment again ?

QUOTE(justwei @ Dec 12 2022, 01:22 PM)
Hi, I have a question regarding the interest rate for housing loan.
Getting a loan at 32 years old for 28 years (until age 60) vs getting a loan at age 37 years old for 23 years (until age 60), will these have different interest rates?
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What is your meaning of same ? 4% now and 4% 5 years later ?

On the assumption your loan amount is the same, the monthly repayment on capital portion at later age will be higher due to shorter tenure.

Is difficult to say whether the profit interest rate will be the same in the future for the same category of financing.

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post Dec 13 2022, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(justwei @ Dec 12 2022, 08:12 PM)
Thanks for the reply~ Hmm, I actually wondering should I buy a house when I can afford there installment of 100% loan, or later when I have saved for the down payment  (e.g. 5 years) assuming I want to finish paying the installment by an age of 60 not matter which loan I take. So I asked whether taking a loan at an older age will subject to higher interest rate or not.

I realize there are other factors that need to consider, but I just want to know is age is an important factor in determining the interest rate.
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Buying a property from bank borrowing is a commitment to repay, otherwise the bank will take all necessary actions to recover the loan.

Buying within present affordability is the key to long term commitment, albeit some borrowers may suffer from unforseen financial misfourtune during the loan tenure, such as losing an employment or business income at older age and unable to secure the same income job to cont the repayment.

On the assumption a borrower can afford now, buying now and 5 years later has its pro and cons for eg if renting or staying in a family house.

Depending on the property preference, generally property prices wont be selling cheaper over long term. Esp for new construction, total buying price is lower BUT psf basis is HIGHER .... meaning paying more for a smaller place.

The key to successful long term borrowing is to settle the loan at the earliest time through few partial capital repayment over the tenure.

Some investor gurus may advise that is better to invest the extra money to have better returns since loan interest is cheaper but I have this to say ....

"An investor can burnt his investments, NOBODY cares. But the bank will collect the outstanding loan from the borrower till grave"

Interest rates charged by banks other than age is based on risk factor ie how easy for the bank to recover the loan in the event of a default.

Generally, interest rates can be cheaper over long term compared to short term borrowing and with higher loan figure.

If age is older, tenure will be shorter and bank will earn less, hence a slightly higher interest no matter what is borrower's profile ... that is busness. Bank will only loan to those good profiles ... right ?

In any business, buying more will have better pricing aka higher loan and longer tenure (younger age) will have better rates.

A good example is HP loan. Compare a 3, 5, 7 or 9 years loan for the same loan amount.

Another reference is FD.

So it works both ways .... higher interest rates for long term fd or short term loan and vice versa.

Conclusion .. Age matters aka tenure.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Dec 13 2022, 10:19 AM
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post Dec 14 2022, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Dec 14 2022, 12:05 AM)
good evening, just a quick question

how come my rhb loan after fully disbursed, it goes back to remaining term 420 months (35 years) ?

all the while for 3 years plus when keep paying interest as the loan slowly disbursed out, the remaining term slowly deduct, up to 390 months, then suddenly when final disbursement completed, suddenly reset back to 420 months?
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The tenure for principal loan repayment portion starts after the final progressive disbursement.

During construction disbursement, there is no repayment of principal sum portion except for the monthly interest charged.

How much is your current monthly repayment ?

Use the below link to check for 390 and 420 months monthly repayment.

https://www.propertyguru.com.my/mortgage/ho...loan-calculator

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post Dec 16 2022, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 16 2022, 04:00 PM)
hi. I hv a home loan with ambank 10 years ago. Now after the latest interest rate revision, ambank has reduced my month repayment from rm1100 to rm900. Meaning that I gonna serve longer period repayment. I wish to readjust back to the previous monthly installment, can I ask the bank to maintain the payment?
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Did the bank officially stated your tenure will be extended with the reduction ?
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post Dec 16 2022, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 16 2022, 04:27 PM)
I checked online and found out that period has been extended so much. I don want to serve that long.
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Legally the bank cant change without official writing.

For my loan, any change in instalment amount will be informed through official letter.

What was the original tenure and 'new' tenure expiry date ?
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post Dec 18 2022, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Dec 18 2022, 08:35 AM)
Anyone try before for asking current bank loan to lower down 0.25 of loan interest rate when got better refinancing offer from other bank? Wonder how high chance is it hmm.gif
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Almost near to zero.
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post Dec 18 2022, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Dec 18 2022, 10:40 AM)
Hmm any idea how much a bank is willing to lower usually?
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Generally banks dont entertain such request because they know is also 'not easy' to do refinancing. Is not a simple case where a borrower "transfer' the loan to another bank.

Another reason is majority borrowers seldom complete the loan tenure not because of refinancing but subsale or extra funds availability.

Seldom do borrowers do refinancing because of small interest diff but more to cash out the extra value for other purpose.

No doubt interest rate is important to a borrower but he should also look into how to settle the loan in the shortest time which will save on interest payment and the very good reason why borrowers prefer flexi loan package.

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post Dec 18 2022, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Dec 18 2022, 08:14 PM)
Thanks, you got some points here.
I did refinance due to diff of 0.22 interest rate, calculations show it's able to save me at least 20-30k after deduct all the costs.
Settle loan will be my second option as long as I can get higher rate in fd/investment smile.gif
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That is ONLY if you complete the tenure. If you sell before the expiry ?

Other than secured investment like fd, if is other investments and if it gets burnt, banks dont care. But if borrowers dont settle the loan for whatever reasons banks will chase till grave.

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