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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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mini orchard
post Nov 10 2022, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(thelws @ Nov 10 2022, 10:22 PM)
so you're saying that if I pay more to my loan, it won't reduce interest?

What are you talking about bro...

And then you also saying that If I 1 lump sum pay to the loan, it will straight repay all principle.

why is your information so different from mine?
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Read your bank loan letter offer. What it states regarding 'prepayment' ?

In your first question, you are asking whether 10k to reduce loan or invest is better.

Answer ... whichever gives 'more' interest for the 10k only. Doesnt matter if for 1 year or the whole loan years .... just multiply by number of years if interest rate is assumed constant for both.


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post Nov 10 2022, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(thelws @ Nov 10 2022, 10:48 PM)
Bro. Investment got compounding la.

You need to factor in the time cost. If loan is 5% interest and investment return also 5% interest. Over a 5 year period maybe better to put 10k I'm house loan. But if over 30 years conlan7firm investment returns more.

You actually do need to calculate to see which one gives better return.

And srs whatever. Can someone just share an overpayment calculator so that I dont have to manually calculate myself?
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You oredi answer your own question .... compouding interest.

Even without compounding interest, if investment interest is always higher than loan, eg epf, definite is better putting into epf

And if with compounding interest, if investment interest is always lower than loan, it may not necessary be better off than loan interest.

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post Nov 10 2022, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 10 2022, 11:09 PM)
borrow pbb 387k for housing loan..salary sgd4200 per month..commitment rm1.2k...still ask me deposit 10% to fd or find guarantor only can approved..lol..which others bank should i try
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I doubt pbb take conversion rate into consideration. Try another bank to see whether is the same approach.
mini orchard
post Nov 10 2022, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(thelws @ Nov 10 2022, 11:12 PM)
Eh dude. Can you just share the calculator. If you don't have then nvm.

I need to calculate properly. Not just imagine ballpark figures.
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I know mathrmatics calculators are available for sale in bookstores or shopee.
mini orchard
post Nov 10 2022, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 10 2022, 11:22 PM)
but my car loan just approved 2 month ago
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Your hp loan is lower risk margin.
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post Nov 10 2022, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 10 2022, 11:23 PM)
which bank u think interest lower and much easy to approved ?
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Pbb or people say chinese bank is known for their conservative approach to lending. I cant say which bank but you can try rhb, cimb, ambank, affin.but interest rate may not be good.

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post Nov 14 2022, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(ikeiyou @ Nov 14 2022, 10:22 AM)
Hi, newbie question. If I have house to sell, but unsure what is a good price to sell, how to start?
I called 2 property people, they both ask for 3.x % commission for the sale, but neither can tell me what price.
I know as owner I can set the price, but I need to know how much bank willing to loan. Is this something I can do myself? If yes, then please how? sad.gif
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You can check property portals for some guides on similar property type but again no two properties are the same for many reasons.

Normally seller will start high to lower and buyer from low to higher after sometime. Depending which party is more urgent to sell or buy, eventually one will give in.

A deal is concluded when both agreed to equilibrium.

Seller sell at a price not because banks say so. If buyer cannot borrow max loan, it is his responsibility to pay the diff in cash aka higher dp.

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post Nov 14 2022, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Nov 14 2022, 11:57 AM)
but most of the time, buyer wanna pay for similar or lower than the bank valuation ie 'market price'.
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Is your decision whether to sell or hold until the available buyer comes along.

Banks seldom see the potential of the property other than to mitigate risk. The lower the borrowered sum, the easier to sell in an auction to recover outstanding loan and not forgetting the accumulation of unpaid interest.

As a buyer, you view the potential of a property and decide from there. Banks are merely assisting buyers to complete the purchase with minimal risk.

If buyers make good profit from the purchase later, bank wont get anything extra and vice versa.

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post Nov 15 2022, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 14 2022, 07:18 PM)
nowdays borrow loan bank ask to show your saving got how much ?
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I dont think the banks just want to know how much savings a borrower has but more importantly, how borrower conduct their account when his salary is credited monthly.

If borrower has no savings for downpayment, the bank will withhold any loan release as borrower has to settle all differential sum ahead.

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post Nov 15 2022, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 15 2022, 06:28 PM)
then why bank offer 100% loan if need downpayment..bcoz ppl no saving only want borrow 100% loan
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Bank wants to understand a borrower's savings similar to know a borrower's income from salary slip, epf statement and tax file.

So borrower may wonder why salarly slip is not good enough to verify income but required epf and tax documents.
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post Nov 16 2022, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Nov 16 2022, 01:37 AM)
If not stated then no cap, borrow 500k can deposit 500k to offset full interest.
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No agreement can have ALL terms stated.

Only the important terms are in the contract. Other administrative procedures or tnc which are subject to reviews are not incorporated.

For eg, some agreement stated 'Other Costs' are chargeable to borrower but it didnt specify the details of other costs. So is at discretion of the bank to charge or waive.

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post Nov 16 2022, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Nov 16 2022, 09:53 AM)
If offset cap present then normally should have listed in OL, at least my OL from two diff banks got listed (not tiger bank).
Anyway usually semi-flexi won't have offset cap as there will have charges when perform withdrawal. smile.gif
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Cannot comment further on how each bank operate. Nevertheless, there is refinancing options

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post Nov 16 2022, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Nov 16 2022, 11:04 AM)
As I said, not all the bank will require to show saving. U may try apply with other bank which is no need to show saving. Different bank have their own guideline.
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If borrower take loan from the same savings bank, they can access the account unless is dormant or only few transactions per year.

So which bank from your knowledge dont require attachment ? Your bank ?


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post Nov 18 2022, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(pepper_mint2 @ Nov 18 2022, 03:43 PM)
Currently I have a house loan of 700 k with PBB semi flexi with 3.9 percent( BR + 0.63%). Just wondering would it be better deal for me if I refinance my loan to government loan at 4 percent fixed rate. My dad told me government loan use fixed rate so it’s cheaper but need to know is it worth it to do another agreement and all
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For a 30 years loan repayment, interest rate will fluctuate at least 30 times on the assumption once per year with exception for this year.

On the assumption if is low rate at the begining ie less than 4% for first 15 years, then is better to cont with pbb since the principal amount is higher and vice versa.

It difficult to predict the direction of interest rate over long term but a fixed rate will have same repayment throughout the tenure.

If not mistaken, govt loan repayment can extend to your pension.

Depending on your loan agreementt, you will incurred some cost if it still within the lock-in period. Legal fees is sure to pay. For other cost, check with lppsa.
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post Nov 21 2022, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Nov 21 2022, 12:29 AM)
For those taking loan for property that's under construction:
Let's say your property will be completed in 2 years later while you had apply 35 years loan, the monthly instalments will be calculated based on 33 years instead 35; hence, the longer the construction period, the higher the monthly instalment amount later, new buyers may take notes on this.

Ps: sifus may correct me if there's anything wrong mentioned above.
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Borrower have to start the repayment after 2 years no matter if the building is completed or otherwise.
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post Nov 21 2022, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Nov 21 2022, 07:59 AM)
If the construction delay and take 3 years, buyer will pay progressive interest for 3 years and monthly instalments based on 32 years; If the building somehow couldn't complete due to developer financial issue, buyer will stuck at paying progressive interest until the loan expiry date, isn't that so? hmm.gif
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Whether pay now or later, all principal sum has to be repaid

Read the LA. It is stated.

But the choice is on borrower.

Banks have option to recall tbe loan and declare the borrower bankrupt if all avenues failed.

In other cases, even if borrower settle principal partly, the monthly repayment seldom change. Is termed early settlement ie shorter years than early agreed in the LA.
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post Nov 21 2022, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(NAVEE @ Nov 21 2022, 11:46 AM)
Not sure if this has been asked before but I saw from iherng youtube that there are banks that provide housing loans up to 75 years of age. Is that true? If so which bank?

I am 35 turning 36 soon and am planning to get my own place next year.

Also to ask is it okay to walk in multiple banks to ask about my loan limits and interest i can get or would that be something to be careful about?
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Previously, certain banks have 2nd generation loan where the children take over the loan. I dont think they have it now since havent seen any promo by banks.

But do you want your children to carry the 'burden' ?

Buy within current affordability and try to settle the loan early with future increase in income.

Is better to have a small property, settle the loan faster than a lifetime debt.

Paying a loan for 35 years is no easy matter. The very good reasons why so many properties landed in auction
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post Nov 23 2022, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 23 2022, 10:48 AM)
same. the progressive interest doesn't really reduce the loan amount

and the interest rate that is signed during undercon will only take effect after full disbursement too
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Progressive interest DONT reduce loan amount.

In accounting treatment, when interest is charged is debited to account. When borrower pays, is credited to account. The nett effect is ZERO.
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post Nov 23 2022, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 23 2022, 02:47 PM)
but progressive interest will reduce loan interest payment?
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If you pay, then it will offset the loan interest charged. Principal amount remains. Next month, same amount charge and amount subject to 30 or 31 days.

Interest is charged as per 'usage' on principal. If no principal, no interest.


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post Nov 24 2022, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Nov 23 2022, 05:40 PM)
Question (first time buyer)

MRTA (cover 30 years) vs MLTA (Cover 20 years)
Loan 35 years 270k
which one is better ? MRTA or MLTA (Premium diff RM500)
Do you need a lawyer for signing/deal with bank regarding loan and offer letter?
Coz the SPA lawyer just told me i need one.
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Take full insurance coverage for loan ... loan amount + tenure. Anything less is to borrower's disadvantages.

SPA is between seller buyer

LA is between borrower and bank

Both require a lawyer. One can appoint the SPA lawyer if he is in the panel list of the bank, otherwise one can ask the bank for the panel list.

Legal fees and stamp duty calculation here ..... excluding disbursements

https://www.lowpartners.com/malaysia-law-fi...uty-calculator/

QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 23 2022, 09:15 PM)
just got loan approved from affin bank..but the mrta look expensive...cover 5 years 100k only need pay 14k..interest 3.9%
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Follow bold answer above

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Nov 24 2022, 05:53 AM

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