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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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mini orchard
post Oct 23 2021, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(woe.com @ Oct 23 2021, 12:03 PM)
Hello, wanna ask, I have a joint mortgage loan with mrta.

If in the middle we got better offer from other bank and we would like to transfer then what will happen for the mrta part? Is the mrta tie with that particular bank LO or is the mrta totally separated (policy by insurance company) that we don't need to worry?
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When doing refinancing, you have to pay legal fees for new loan agreement, stamp duty and valuation fee besides mrta ..... unless you enjoy substantial savings in interest.

In refinancing, your monthly repayment will be higher because of age factor due to shorter loan tenure and if there is no substantial decrease in the principal sum.

Refinancing is not only about interest rate. You may be offered a lower loan sum from previous because of the decrease in the market value of the property.
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post Oct 26 2021, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Oct 25 2021, 08:52 PM)
Hi sifu-sifu,

On year 2016 I bought an under-con condo, so sign the LO around March-2016. Since then the condo have some stop work issue on 2017 for 12-18 mths (due to deadly construction incident) so the construction delayed but still on-going until now, and still haven't reach my unit level (I bought level 4X, now they construct till level 2X), so I am still paying progressive interest now.

Until today, the PBB banker suddenly call me and ask me to sign the attached letter, saying I need to start paying the full installment amount because the construction period had been exceeded 36 mths!

Previously I already heard such thing from other owners as their bank loan LO did mention so (the exceed 36 mths thing and need to start paying full installment). But I checked my PBB LO there is no such clause, the only thing I haven't check is the loan agreement. Is it such clause (if exists) in loan agreement or S&P ?

By looking at the letter that the banker ask me to sign, it sounds so fishy as if I voluntarily wanted to start pay full amount for it. Definitely I not willing to do so, unless there is clearly stated in the LO or agreement.

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As a purchaser and borrower, I would be more concern whether the project can be completed eventually.

For the loan part, whatever happen to the development, the bank is sure to collect back the loan sum. You cant involve the bank with whatever disputes with the developer as the loan agreement is betwwen you and the bank.

If you start the installment early, you are starting to reduce the interest charge on the principal sum.

For the early part of the installment for fully disbursed loan, about 40% of monthly payment goes to reducing the principal. Since yours is not fully disburse, the % will be higher, hence reducing the interest charged.

If you disagree with the bank's call, you can ignore but do remember the bank has other options available in the loan agreement.
mini orchard
post Oct 28 2021, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(hk2015 @ Oct 27 2021, 08:40 AM)
Hi,
May i check on mortgage loan. I want to buy a 700k property (my first property) and plan to joint loan with my siblings. Would like to have a 90% or 80% loan amount.

We have a joint name company (car workshop). We both work for the workshop.
- no EPF
- haveĀ  pay taxes to LHDN
- have saving + FD (can increase if there's a need)
- have fix salary from workshop (sometimes vary on salary bank in date)

Is there a chances to success apply for loan? Any mortgage loan manager or expert here can advise. Thank you.
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Firstly, it depends on the total of the combined salary for the 90% or 80% loan. If both of your have no other commitments like car loan, credit card outstanding or personal loan, then is straight forward. Roughly, the monthly repayment should not exceed 35% of combined income.

Secondly, it depends on how long the workshop has been operating. The bank may even want to look at the workshop past financial statements.

Thirdly, why is there no contributing to EPF. This is the 'suspicious' part. Nowadays, banks will also look at EPF statement as 'confirmation' of salary other than taxes and bank statements.

Savings and FDs are not helpful UNLESS pledged as security .... meaning the bank is in control of the money and not the owner.

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post Oct 28 2021, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 28 2021, 04:48 PM)
how much money involved if refinance?
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In refinancing cases, it may not always necessary be better than current. Refinancing is NOT only about interest rates.
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post Oct 28 2021, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 28 2021, 05:15 PM)
kindly elaborate
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post Oct 29 2021, 05:46 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 28 2021, 08:36 PM)
oh, of course I'm saying assuming all other factors are constant
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What factors are constant you are refering ?
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post Oct 29 2021, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Oct 28 2021, 10:36 PM)
To whom should I pay the downpayment (10% of the house price) of the housing load? The lawyer who prepares Sales & Purchase agreement, or the bank which provides the housing loan to me?

Thank you for your advice. smile.gif
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To whoever the seller .... developer or the owner, if subsale.
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Oct 29 2021, 09:07 AM)
Thank you for your respective replies, victorian, mini orchard and lifebalance.

I am sorry that my post was not clear. I am referring to a subsale house.

After paying the downpayment to the seller (the current owner of the subsale house), should I request a receipt, or some sort of document from the owner that acknowledge my payment of downpayment to the owner?

Merely relying on my online banking transfer receipt to the owner seems to be inadequate to be used for an acknowledgement of the payment.

Thank you once again. smile.gif
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For all payment of money for purchase of property, you forward the money to your lawyer and he will do the necessary. He will check the agreement are in order b4 releasing the money to the seller ...that is is responsibilty.

If you are worried whether the money reaches the seller or you want some form of record, purchase a bank draft for each payment.

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post Oct 31 2021, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Oct 31 2021, 01:51 AM)
Guys, let's say if I work in financial industry (insurance or bank), will I get the lower interest rate compared to other people?

Assuming other people have the same salary, age, gender, marital status, working job type etc like mine (except the industry that we worked).
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Lower HL interest is one of benefits for employees. Since the current market interest is low, if you are buying cheaper property like govt assisted housing, is better to take normal HL market rate. When upgrading later, then take the staff loan for higher loan amount.

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post Nov 2 2021, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Nov 1 2021, 10:27 PM)
The following interest rates are from loan offer that I receive, for a subsale property.

For the first year, interest rate is 2.87%.
From the second year till end of loan tenure, interest rate is 3.00%.
I wonder why the loan interest rate has 2 tiers.
Based on my limited understanding about housing loan, there is just one value of the loan interest rate applicable throughout the entire loan tenure, assuming that the Bank's Base Rate does not change.
Since interest rate of 2.87% is only applicable for only the first year, the effective loan interest rate is much closer to 3.00%, because one year (due to first year) is much shorter, as compared to the entire loan tenure.
Is there any reason why my housing loan has 2 tiers of interest rate?
Thank you for your information. smile.gif
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There are few reasons ....

1. You have spend quite some money during the purchase and this to lighten your cashflow during the initial period. Mine was slightly lower interest for intial 2 years.

2. Marketing strategy ... always quote the market lowest interest rate subject to the tnc.

3 After averaging, it should be their normal rate .... similar to tiered fd rates.

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post Nov 2 2021, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 2 2021, 11:59 AM)
has anyone recently tried and gotten a construction loan from a bank before for construction of a house (personal dwelling) purpose?

tried to look around but seems like they only offer to govt servant?

-to build a house for own stay
-land (agriculture fully paid), 2 acre. possible to use the land as security to bank to get financing?
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You can use any assets of value to pledge to bank for a loan. As long the margin is comfortable for the bank, you can use the loan for any purpose .... child education, working capital, buy another type of assets where financing is not avaiable, construct building etc.
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post Nov 2 2021, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 2 2021, 12:59 PM)
Agri land the bank will accept for refinancing? There is no building on the land. Asking because i asked another bank, but the person says they prefer refinancing of a building/house/shop
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How do developers buy agri land and convert to residential housing project ?

The magin of finance will be lesser compared if there is a building erect on the land.

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post Nov 2 2021, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 2 2021, 01:22 PM)
Developers would have a different financing compared to building one for own stay i guess. But when they buy agri land they also need to convert to residential title after payingĀ  a premium though
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Under the NLC Act, a building is allowed to be constructed on the agri land for dwelling purpose.

You can try check with Agro Bank.

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post Nov 3 2021, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(soulred777 @ Nov 2 2021, 07:12 PM)
Bump. Any sifus wana share opinion.
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I believed the bank is following this strictly ...

https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1835830/new...cant-possession
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post Nov 4 2021, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Nov 3 2021, 10:58 PM)
If developer fail to obtain the strata title, penalty on developer or buyer?
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From my undetstanding, all new developement wont get approval to proceed, so it shouldnt happen.


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post Nov 4 2021, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Averyyeoh @ Nov 4 2021, 03:20 PM)
Hi all sifus, I have recently changed my job (from a bank to another bank) and I am planning to get a house.

PBB has approved my loan application (with 2.85% rate and 90% loan) but with one request: the need of a guarantor because I have just changed my job and confirmation will only come in 6 months' time (and by then I would have missed the HOC campaign.....)

If possible I do not want to get a guarantor as I know how sensitive this can get eventhough I am certain that I will not default on the loan.

Would like to know if there are other banks out there that are friendly to house buyers that just made a career change or are there any other ways to go around this guarantor requirement.

Thanks all
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Apply to your bank as a normal customer loan. If cannot, I am sure there are other banks that will consider your application if you dont mind a higher rate.

No banks will have stand policy for all borrowers. Each will assess differently base on individual risk profile.

For a higher risk borrower, a higher interest rate to compensate for the risk.




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post Nov 4 2021, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Averyyeoh @ Nov 4 2021, 09:07 PM)
The banker in my current bank outright turned me down and say he is not confident that the bank will grant me a loan cause I am still new to the job sad.gif

And ya I tried to apply as an ordinary customer as well sad.gif
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Speak to your superior or HR instead of the loan officer. Since your case is not common, is more of management approval than loan manager approval.

Btw, I am sure there will be a bank in the market to finance your purchase. You need to look wider esp those non popular banks.
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post Nov 6 2021, 06:09 AM

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QUOTE(Mn**67 @ Nov 6 2021, 02:06 AM)
Hi just want to ask,

Ive already signing LO, but not signing s&p lagi, is there any charges or fees i need to pay? If i want to cancel it

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Read the tnc of offer letter. In any 'contract', normally there is a penalty for a cancellation, otherwise both party wont commit to the contract seriously.

Secondly, once signed, the loan amount is 'locked' in CCRIS .... meaning you may not be able to qualify for another similar loan amount with another bank because your 'debt' will increase against your income.

Always consider carefully before signing any 'contract'.

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post Nov 7 2021, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(homosapien8888 @ Nov 6 2021, 06:56 PM)
hi . Dear sifu

i have a house , existing loan interest 3.27%
remaining house loan 350k
market value probable 1M

i was offered 3 option
1. use existing bank take top up loan , interest 3 % , otther cost : MRTA +legal fee stamp duty about 10k
2. move to a zero moving cost bank , rate 3.15 margin of financing 70%, no cost involved other than documentation.
3. total new loan refinancing rate 2.9% , margin of financing 70% but cost involved , stamp duty legal fee valuation fee about 13-14k

Cash out for business use

which one is the best , if debt to loan ratio no issue .
which one you will take ?
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I dont see much different in all the 3 options in term of cost for refinancing. Increase 'A', reduce 'B' or vice versa.



QUOTE(homosapien8888 @ Nov 6 2021, 07:01 PM)
last question is it worth take islamic loan i heard the stamp duty is cheaper and legal fee is waived?
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Unless govt waived stamp duty similar to hoc, someone has to pay for it and lawyers dont work for free.

What you heard is more likely to be included in the loan . Read tnc.

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post Nov 7 2021, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(homosapien8888 @ Nov 7 2021, 09:31 AM)
option 1 & 3 , i need to fork out money
option 2 , bank giving promotion , absorb all the fee., thus what ever cash that i cash out is net amount and no need to deduct the cost(legal + stamp duty + valuation )
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Borrowers look at things differently. If you need the extra cash and willing to pay interest, is not wrong.

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