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mini orchard
post Sep 26 2022, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 26 2022, 04:25 PM)
Scanario: the house is under joint name (co-owners) but the housing loan is under my name only. 

For the case I bought insurance, the house will go to the co-owner if I pass away. Co-owner no need to continue to service the loan. If co-owner pass away, nothing happens, I have to service the loan as usual.

I also read previously that both co-owners can buy insurance protection to cover the loan. Can the co-owner still buy this insurance is he/she is not under the housing loan?

By insurance, is this referring to the MLTA or MRTA, and this is bought from the bank or insurance companies?

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One dont need to be a borrower to buy insurance to cover the loan.

Buy a life policy. When the insured pass away, the beneficiary can use the payout for any purpose including paying off tbe loan.
mini orchard
post Sep 27 2022, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Wat_Eva_Lah @ Sep 27 2022, 09:18 AM)
I can't get a bank loan financing of 90% at the moment, do you think I rent-to-own is another good option to buy the sub sale house? What is the pros and cons of rent to own? I don't really know much about it.
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What are the reasons ?


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post Sep 27 2022, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 27 2022, 11:30 AM)
I checked with OCBC and it states that they do not have end financing for the project. Isn’t that weird. The property agent said the project is completed so basically can submit to all banks.
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Maybe they have past poor experience with the developer when title not issued.
mini orchard
post Sep 28 2022, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(OrdernPay @ Sep 28 2022, 04:34 PM)
came across this conventional maxihome loan as published in maybank website

https://www.maybank2u.com.my/iwov-resources...ortgage_PDS.pdf

at bullet 9,
Early settlement fees - ● 2.00% % on approved loan amount.
does it means even I just only few months away from finishing my loan, i gatai go and deposit remaining full amount into the loan account to 0 interest then i will be charged for 2% base on loan account?
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Only during the lock-in period, that is 3 years from the final disbursement date.

Starting 4th year and thereafter, no early settlement fees.

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post Sep 28 2022, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 28 2022, 07:32 PM)
could be a stupid question but anyone can advise this?

eg:
1. applied rm600k loan with 4.0% interest rate for 35 years (around rm2.6k per month) for under-con condo
2. started paying progressive interest (say rm1k interest per month) for 5 years
3. after vp, the loan amount will be the loan balance x 4.0% for 30 years?

hope you guys know what i mean
3. vp in 5th year
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If not mistaken, 35 years is from VP date or 3 years after SnP date whichever earlier.

If the property cannot vp as per SnP agreement date, meaning a delay, borrower have to start the monthly instalment payment.

Progressive interest payment is not included in the 35 years.
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post Sep 28 2022, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 28 2022, 10:10 PM)
then my monthly payment is kinda weird

based on the calculation, i should been paying around rm2.6k per month with 4.1% previously. then the rate dropped/increased in these 2 years and showing 3.72% in my loan but i actually paying rm2.7k now  hmm.gif
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Did you applied for any moratorium during mco ? Depending on banks, some include the moratoriium in the monthly repayment now.

Best is to call the bank or visit the branch to clarify.
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post Oct 6 2022, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Oct 6 2022, 12:49 PM)
Thx, btw what is usual refinancing Rate?

Currently, we can apply the loan tenure up to at least 70 yo? or 75 yo?

Intend to buy 1 studio for keeping. But still assessing the market now, And some say next year could be crisis year....ai... sad.gif
Remind me of what I did...
I did apply for moratorium, but I still continue to pay the monthly repayment.
Logically I have made adv. payment for 12 months now right?
Can I withdraw this money anytime?
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Depending on loan type....flexi, semi or conventional.

Best is check with your bank. All banks have different tnc for their loans.
mini orchard
post Oct 14 2022, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(lewissac @ Oct 13 2022, 10:52 PM)
What is the likelihood for someone working overseas (E.g. Singapore or Australia), where they have no CCRIS record in Malaysia, is able to get 90% home loan? But in their country of work, they have records (cards, personal loan, etc) Gt some feedback from bank that they allow only 80% or max 85%.
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Banks can grant higher % but if they value the property lower, the final sum is almost the same amount.

So either way, the bank wins.

80% of 1,000,000 = 800,000

90% of 900,000 = 810,000

Unless you can find a bank that can value it at 1,000,000 and 90%.

The property value overwrites eligibility. In the event of a foreclosure, how much the property can fetch in an auction matters to recover the outstanding loan.

Banks cannot force borrower to pay up but they can foreclose the property.

Borrower who purchased property above market price or bank valuation for whatever personal reasons should have the financial means to top-up the differential loan sum, including lower % loan eligibility.

Some borrowers think that they can mark-up the SNP price to borrow higher but that is only possible if the purchased price is way below market price or bank valuation., eg auction purchased.

One may qualify 90% for 1st and 2nd loan in paper but bank will assess their own risk b4 approving.

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post Oct 16 2022, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Vizcana @ Oct 16 2022, 06:25 PM)
Hi, glad to find this forum discussion.
I am a foreigner which has been living in a rented unit for 5 years. I am planning to get my own property. Wanted to ask few questions

1. How is the approval rate for foreigner nowadays? Especially after Covid time.
2. Any idea what is the best % of MOF which i could expect? I saw from few articles (copy and pasted among them), that foreigner w/o mm2h can only get 70%, is that true?
3. Any extra loan/admin fee which applicable for my case that i should be aware of?
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1. Land matters are under individual states. Approval, price and category for purchase are different in each state.Consult a registered property agent or lawyer from that state to seek further info.

2 I think is still around 70% but do check with the bank for confirmation

3. Legal fees for SnP, & Loan Agreement, Stamp Duties for both and Valuation fees are all applicable in a purchase of property. Estimate allocate 5% of purchase price.
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post Oct 20 2022, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Oct 20 2022, 03:52 PM)
Hi guys,

What for mbb semi flexi loan conventional and islamic any difference?

My banker say no difference.

Thanks
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Ask another mbb loan officer. Maybe that guy is new.
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post Oct 21 2022, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Oct 21 2022, 06:43 AM)
Hi i got a question regarding lawyer and stamp duty fees. How much is 880k loan sub sale house fees i have to pay for above mentioned. Tq
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Use the calculator here ....

https://www.lowpartners.com/malaysia-law-fi...uty-calculator/

Is excluding disbursements and other cost if it involve additional work outside the snp or loan agreement.

Discount on fees only are at their discretion but dont squeeze them dry.

A good and experienced lawyer overwrites discounts if buyer wants the deal to proceed smoothly.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 21 2022, 07:40 AM
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post Oct 21 2022, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Oct 21 2022, 02:05 PM)
there are a number of instrument fees. It varies from the number of borrowers to the type of financing and also the location of the property, bank, land tenure, master/ individual title etc.

880k property

assuming 90% loan is 792k

scale fee
first 500k - 5k
balance 292k - 2,336

Caveat, Statutory declaration, Deed of Assignment, Power of Attorney, SST - around RM2500 (Islamic loan may incur additional costs such as ijarah agreement, undertaking fee, service agency agreement, limited declaration of trust etc)

stamp duty 0.5% - 3960
stamp fee, register fee, land search, pencarian rasmi, affirmation fee - around 600

reimbursement fee (courier, traveling, admin fee, telephone/ fax charges, stationery etc) around 1000

5000 +
2336 +
2500 +
3960 +
600  +
1000 +
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15396
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Bear in mind, the amount may vary so take 2500 +/- as your final fee
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15k + is more realistic compare to some chap pa lang quote 50k.
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post Oct 24 2022, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Oct 23 2022, 08:58 PM)
Hi all,
What's the most time efficient way to meet with bank loan officers to discuss the loan amount that can be obtained?
Do you schedule appointments at multiple banks on the same day and go to the branches one by one?

Possible to schedule video calls and discuss online without physically going to the branch?
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Use this calculator. The result is about there from most banks for normal borrowers who are employees unless your case is 'special'.

What bank officers indicated may not necessary be the same as the offer letter after official application submission.

Avoid using agent if your case is normal. Banks have to pay him commission which is indirectly charge to borrower. Application is submitted to banks that pay higher commission.

Hear from different bank officers to understand borrowing tnc better as each operate differently.

Borrower himself can also apply from different banks b4 deciding and not necessary only through agent.

Agent 'mistake' in the application is ultimately borrower's mistake.

Lastly, if direct borrower cannot have his loan approved, what are the chances using the same documents through an agent ?

Anyway bank loan officer would also want to get approval for all his borrowers to meet his quota and year end bonus so your loan approval is also his benefit.

https://www.propertyguru.com.my/mortgage/ho...lity-calculator

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post Oct 24 2022, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Oct 21 2022, 06:43 AM)
Hi i got a question regarding lawyer and stamp duty fees. How much is 880k loan sub sale house fees i have to pay for above mentioned. Tq
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I beileved your question is only about loan fees and post #19547 answered correctly.

Other fees are also applicable but the answer is not necessary, albeit is part of the subsale transaction.

Unless the post is reword.

SnP and Loan Agreement lawyers are not necessary the same person.

If same lawyer, a separate invoice will be issued.

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post Oct 25 2022, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(imcrazyz @ Oct 25 2022, 06:20 PM)
Hello sifus, what is considered a good salary range to own a RM600k+ property?
Considering monthly debt (credit card and student loan) = RM500 max and no other commitment.
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4k nett ... 300k...monthly about 1 2k on current interest rate. No other loan.

Use the above as a guide or use this

https://www.propertyguru.com.my/mortgage/ho...lity-calculator

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 25 2022, 07:32 PM
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post Oct 28 2022, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(shimis27 @ Oct 28 2022, 03:03 PM)
Hi all,

Im buying new property directly from the developer which is still under Contruction. 3 banks has approved my loan. CIMB, Public bank and Maybank.
Im not sure which loan to accept. Would very much appreciate any advice on this matter. Thnaks in advance

CIMB

Total loan amount 729,967k
Loan amount RM 703,210
MRTT : RM26,757
Loan for 28 years
SBR 2.50% + 1.20% PA = Interest Rate : 3.7%
Monthly instalment
First 5years RM3,142
After 5years RM3,615
Public Bank

Total loan amount RM733,100K
Loan amount RM 703,210
MRTA : RM29,900
Loan for 28 years
SBR 2.50% + 1.35% PA = Interest Rate: 3.85%
Monthly instalment = RM3,570

Note: Public bank told me that final Interest rate would be 3.55% after appeal. Once i confirm the offer and its confirmed than they will issue the letter

Maybank
Interest Rate : 3.65%
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PBB at 3.55% .... monthly 3,446.

Ranking ....
1. PBB ..... 1,157,856 ... total loan payment assuming interest no change
2. CIMB ..... 1,186,260
3. MBB

If lower repayment for 1st 5 years is important, then ignore better interest rate or nego with cimb again
1. CIMB
2. PBB
3. MBB

Check with bank that the mrtt or mrta covers the entires 28 years and full loan amount. Secondly, if joint borrowers, is advisable for both to buy mrtt or mrta.
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QUOTE(fcchung @ Oct 29 2022, 11:48 AM)
Hi sifu here, any alternative way can loan 80%-90% if want to buy 3rd hse?tqvm...
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Buy from auction. Most prices oredi big discount. Then dont have to borrow much.
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post Oct 29 2022, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(fcchung @ Oct 29 2022, 12:12 PM)
i currently hold 2 housing loans...keen to buy 3rd hse...based on bank Negara only can loan 70% if buy 3rd hse...so that see any sifu here has any suggestion can loan 80% - 90%...
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How much is the extra 10 to 20%, ?

If borrower risk factor is high, bank also wont give loan at all.

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post Oct 29 2022, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(fcchung @ Oct 29 2022, 12:30 PM)
3rd house selling price is RM 270,000...so need pay down payment 30% total amount of RM 81,000...
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The other 2 properties, how many years have you paid the loan. What is the purchase price then and the estimate market value now ?

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post Oct 29 2022, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(fcchung @ Oct 29 2022, 12:44 PM)
less than 10 years for both properties...purchase price around 550K for both...market value not sure..
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On the assumption that one of the property now is above 400k, refinance it and take the extra cash for the new property down payment. Try to max out for the 20% payment.

The bank will have to assess your risk and refinance will have cost to pay which you may include in the loan sum.

I dont see any other way than the above unless you want to approach financier outside the bank system such as legal credit leasing or insurance co with higher interest rates.

My first housing loan was with Metroplex Credit & Leasing.

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