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post Mar 2 2016, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(mangoproperty @ Mar 2 2016, 09:28 PM)
Hi,

I'm planning to purchase a commercial property using my company, currently only one years old. May I know which bank still can provide Full third party corporate  guarantor for the purchase ?

Thanks in advance.
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1 year old company can't apply loan bro, need atleast 2 years, some banks 3 years.
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post Mar 2 2016, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 2 2016, 11:14 PM)
As mentioned earlier, my loan has been approved. But right now there is no urgency in getting the money - most likely i need it only end of this year. The bank has been persuading me to sign the LO now to secure the terms and execute the legal part in Aug. The bank will need few months for finalization and disbursement. Is this advisable?
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the LO will expire within 2 weeks - 1 month. After this period, your offer letter is considered void and will require to re-apply again. If you only need the fund by December, you should only apply it around Sept and the funds would fully disburse by December.

The disbursement factor also depends on your title whether it's leasehold or freehold. Leasehold will normally take a longer period of time due to the lawyer need to get the permission from the government for you to charge the title to the bank.


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post Mar 2 2016, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 2 2016, 11:44 PM)
But apparently the bank officer said that so long i sign the LO now, i am secured with the loan and its current T&Cs. They will get the lawyer to KIV (up to one year) the legal part until my instruction comes in. If there is a change in the bank's T&Cs, those will not affect me since i have signed the LO (even though it's yet to execute legally).
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Since this is a refinance case, you may be allowed to hold the loan prior to the instruction from the lawyer to the bank for the disbursement, but I am not sure since you're going to put it on hold for 8 more months with the reason that you don't need the loan. You will need to get the advise of the lawyer you're appointing on this. Different banks have different guidelines. If the UOB banker mentioned you can do so, please double confirm it with the lawyer.
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post Mar 3 2016, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(hhy @ Mar 3 2016, 12:25 AM)
yaya good analysis for me smile.gif but throughout the whole process, the banker never mention about the flexi loan thingy. So i guess i should direct ask him tomorrow. but the lawyer is from bank side, how we can secure the plan i am getting is full flexi loan?
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You can check in the letter for things like prepayment and any penalty charged against you if you put in extra money into the account to a certain extent. You may also check if you're required to open a current account and maintain a fee of rm10 every month.

fully flexi
- borrower can pay additional amount anytime to knock off principle to save interest
- borrow can issue cheque to use the money in the loan - the money (principle) that the borrow has already paid. note that by taking out the money, interest will be charged based on the amount taken out
- need to pay RM10/month as there is a current account linked to the loan account
- good for people who need high liquidity of cash very often

semi flexi
- borrower can pay additional amount anytime to knock off principle to save interest
- borrow can only take out money with written notice to the bank. approximately ~5 working days of processing. note that by taking out the money, interest will be charged based on the amount taken out. each withdrawal will cost a fee of rm50 (whatever the bank want to call fee as)
- NO need to pay RM10/month, as no cheque book or current account involve.
- good for working class who often have additional saving, have bonus or kena lottery occasionally so that can dump in the money to knock off interest.
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post Mar 3 2016, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 3 2016, 09:40 AM)
But the lawyer is also appointed by the bank - should i still ask? Generally speaking, even if i have signed the LO but do not plan to execute it at the end of the day, i have no obligation or whatsoever, right?
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If you've signed the LO, you've agreed to it's terms and condition, if the lawyer is appointed by the bank, they would have done some of the paperwork prior to your disbursement, should you choose to delay too long, they will consider you would have to do cancellation prior to the loan disbursement and you will need to pay the cancellation fees + legal fees incurred.

Once you've signed the LO, the bank will hold this reserve of 400k for your refinance, and it's not being utilized by another borrower, the bank would want to disburse the money to you ASAP, not delay it longer because they want to earn your interest.

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post Mar 3 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 3 2016, 10:35 AM)
Haha yeah i have also asked about those. Cancellation fee can seek waiver (and officer said most likely will be approved) whereas legal fee is not applicable yet since the law firm has not started to process my loan.
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Ahh okay, then you just decide smile.gif
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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 03:48 PM)
Yeah, I think that was the case with my relative. The loan got rejected because the developer was winding up but the seller hasn't applied for strata or something, hence the property is still under master title. Agent persisted to continue signing for S&P, but 3 banks rejected the loan already
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As usual, agent would just want to earn your commission.
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post Mar 4 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 04:07 PM)
Age: 42

Income:
(i) Gross Monthly Salary: RM5100 (Annual RM61,620)
(ii) Gross Annual Incentive + Bonus + Allowances (EA 2015): RM68,500
(iii) Annual Cash Dividend 2015, 2014: RM24,000

Commitment:
Shoplot Loan RM650

Queries:
a) if I’m not mistaken, bank may let us take out a loan with a monthly payment equal to 30% of gross monthly income. So, from that income figure above.. does bank take into account (i) only?  or all (i), (ii) & (iii)?

b) What is the property value range that the person eligible to purchase?
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan

c) If willing to pay monthly instalment of RM2,500, what will be the eligible purchase value?
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What are you planning to purchase? a house ? a commercial unit ?

Location of the property ?

What's the dividend % for 2015 and 2014 ?

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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 04:58 PM)
Property: Residential Unit
Locatioan: KL/Selangor... maybe Negri Sembilan too (still hunting)
Dividend % for 2014, 2015 roughly about 8%
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This dividend is it a ASB ?
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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 4 2016, 04:07 PM)
Age: 42

Income:
(i) Gross Monthly Salary: RM5100 (Annual RM61,620)
(ii) Gross Annual Incentive + Bonus + Allowances (EA 2015): RM68,500
(iii) Annual Cash Dividend 2015, 2014: RM24,000

Commitment:
Shoplot Loan RM650

Queries:
a) if I’m not mistaken, bank may let us take out a loan with a monthly payment equal to 30% of gross monthly income. So, from that income figure above.. does bank take into account (i) only?  or all (i), (ii) & (iii)?

b) What is the property value range that the person eligible to purchase?
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan

c) If willing to pay monthly instalment of RM2,500, what will be the eligible purchase value?
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a) it's based on your average income from your derived income tax.

Based on what I calculated. Your nett pay is around 4613 per month

Asb is RM160 monthly

b)
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan - RM770k loan amount max
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan - RM650k loan amount max

c) RM470k max loan
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 4 2016, 07:27 PM)
Dear,

1. What's your

a. Allowance
b. OT
c. Performance Bonus for 2 years, 2014 and 2015
d. Contractual Bonus 2015
e. what's the initial borrowing from bank for the shop lot loan?
f. no credit card or personal loan debt?

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Based on the vague information above
1a. Yes, bank take into account of all i ii iii Income.

2b.

Case 1.

Based on shop lot being settled. Your max loan is RM866,000 for HLBB, right bottom corner for the rest of the banks, yellow highlight.

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Case 2

If you don't settle the shop lot, your max loan eligibility is RM736,985 for HLBB, right bottom corner for the rest of the banks, yellow highlight.
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3c. IF you are willing to pay RM2500 installment.

Assume 4.5%, 35 years loan tenure.

You would be able to afford LOAN amount of around RM530K, Purchase Price of AROUND rm600,000
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Wrong info.
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post Mar 5 2016, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 5 2016, 11:16 AM)
Dear AIA insuance agent,

Please show the mistake, will ya? thanks alot
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Dear Great Eastern agent

The tenure of the loan is supposed to be 28 instead of 33 as per 42 yr old

Tq
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QUOTE(5211796 @ Mar 5 2016, 05:18 PM)
Could someone please share experience/guide how to change the master title to strata title? Is there any clause?
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The developer will need to apply with the state government and also permission from all the unit owner for the title to be changed to strata title.
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post Mar 5 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(5211796 @ Mar 5 2016, 05:55 PM)
From owner perspective, we do not required to do anything?
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the strata titles are first issued to the developer or land proprietor. Once issued, the developer will write to inform the purchaser, the purchaser's solicitor as well as the end financier. Normally, the notice will include instructions on the developer's solicitor's information, amounts to be paid or utility deposits to be transferred as well as a copy of the title and accessory parcel (if any).

What is the process to transfer the ownership of strata title?

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Developer and purchaser sign Memorandum of Transfer ('MOT') form (Form 14A, National Land Code)
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Lawyer sends MOT to Stamp Office for adjudication to ascertain how much stamp duty is to be paid. Stamp Office then stamps MOT for a nominal value of RM10.00 (being adjudication fee) and returns MOT to lawyer.
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Valuation Department then values property and informs Stamp Office of valuation amount. Stamp Office then issues the notice (PDS 14) of the stamp duty payable based on the said valuation. Lawyer collects stamp duty from purchaser and proceeds to stamp MOT. A penalty is imposed if the instrument is not stamped within the stipulated 30 days from the date of the notice.
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After stamping MOT, lawyer presents the MOT and charge instrument (Form 16A) (for properties charged to a bank), to the Land Registry/Office for registration. On presentation, a presentation number would be allocated. It would take an approximate 6 to 9 months or earlier with the recent implementation of the Computerization System of Strata Titles.
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Once the transfer is registered, you would receive the strata title from your lawyer. If the property is charged to a bank, the title would be sent to the bank. You should get a photocopy of the title from the lawyer for your record.

Credits to http://www.hba.org.my/articles/iprop/transfer.htm

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 6 2016, 07:36 PM)
Dear,

I am glad that there's people sharing good knowledge here, but this article seems to be copy from some author. Do cite the author as an appreciation for their effort to write all this down.
If not, it will be blatant plagiarism. It wouldn't be fair to that person right? laugh.gif
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Yeah sure will do thanks for reminding. Will add it on later

QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 6 2016, 07:38 PM)
Dear,

That's the default setting and I didn't inform him his loan tenure would be 33 years...lolol

Anyway, good eyes. Hope you can catch a more significant relevant error next time.

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I had expected you to admit the fault rather than shoving me by telling me that the error is not significant enough. The borrower would have expect that the figure you mentioned would meant that he can get the loan that much.

The problem is not on how significant is the error but every error counts in the financial line. You screw up then the case screws up. Plain and simple. What if the client comes back to you and said that look I can't get my loan approve. What went wrong? You're going to tell him and admit your error in the calculation or beat around the bush and hopefully he doesn't find out?

I was thinking maybe you would have said "I'm sorry I overlooked that portion, will change it accordingly. Hopefully it didn't mislead that person" in humble attitude rather than being egoistic with the reply above.

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 6 2016, 11:04 PM)
Dear Life balance,

As always, all the analysis is based on estimation. There's always a given range to how much can be receive and every bank has its own policy and guideline in calculating the max loan analysis.

1. As always, I would give an estimation but ending success must based on the actual document of his CCRIS, CTOS and his income documentation.

2. So you are saying, what you posted here estimation of loan range for the netizen is on top notch accurate? I won't ever give my assurance until I look at their document. Hope you won't it will be a blatant mistake.

3. I would apologize if I ever give assurance in the estimation and they came back biting me on the it. But anyhow, I had never give any assurance in it till the documents has been thoroughly examined by me.

4. Furthermore, this is just an initial analysis, there's definitely a gap of difference from actual one, and given that his information is still vague, I would need few more details from him to tabulate an actual analysis. Until I had the right details, will I tabulate the DSR on top of his mortgage loan financing.

5. You are trying to make a point out of nothing, the fact is, I still haven't include his age factor into it as I have written, as per vague information given. I don't need to alter anything as the table tabulated is not based on his age factor yet.

6. You are telling me, without his actual information given accurately, you can estimate his range of max loan eligibility? Seriously ?

There's still unknown factors in

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a. Allowance
b. OT
c. Performance Bonus for 2 years, 2014 and 2015
d. Contractual Bonus 2015
e. what's the initial borrowing from bank for the shop lot loan?
f. no credit card or personal loan debt?


7. So, this given me an impression that you analyse based on vague information and not his actual details. When you didn't even ask him on the essential question

8. So based on this, you know his actual figure on his bonus and allowance?
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Income:
(i) Gross Monthly Salary: RM5100 (Annual RM61,620)
(ii) Gross Annual Incentive + Bonus + Allowances (EA 2015): RM68,500
(iii) Annual Cash Dividend 2015, 2014: RM24,000


What's his other debts?
As far as I know, you didn't even question and you gave him a range of max loan eligibility already.

9. So, as per what you have written in reply to him/her, Your estimation is of accurate? You didn't even factor in his other debts and with his vague income information.

CODE

a) it's based on your average income from your derived income tax.

Based on what I calculated. Your nett pay is around 4613 per month

Asb is RM160 monthly

b)
Case 1: If fully settled the shoplot loan - RM770k loan amount max
Case 2: If don’t settle the shoplot loan - RM650k loan amount max

c) RM470k max loan


10. All I can say is, my terrible mistake in not removing the default loan tenure year in my table (Which is obsolete as the age factor haven't even add into the analysis calculation) My bad for not explaining well on my table functionality, I will do better next time Mr life balance.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 6 2016, 11:11 PM)
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Dear,

1. This is important, I wouldn't want my articles written with effort and hardwork and then being posted by random others without my consent or cite, and took my hardwork for granted and make it his/her.

It's an intellectual knowledge.

Hope you take this matter seriously, and not taking it lightly from how you reply.

2. Don't take this the hard way. I'm just advising and protecting others intellectual property.

3. Hope next time, you can improvised and add on value to this content and articles of others and make it more interesting and informative. Just remember to cite the AUTHOR.
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rolleyes.gif I shall not continue further since nit picking isn't my cup of tea.
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QUOTE(Wind82 @ Mar 8 2016, 01:26 PM)
Hi guys,

I have a question regarding interest paid during construction period of a certain property.

Let's say this bank has released a RM10,000.00 progressive payment to the developer. So I will need to start paying the interest already monthly until the next progressive payment is made.

My question is, for flexi-home loan, is it possible to dump in 10k into the account so that I will not need to pay the interest?

Can I do the same for islamic or semi-flexi home loan?

Thanks!
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You can't do that actually during progressive payment. I understand that you are trying to reduce interest by dumping in money and save up the interest. But the bank will not allow you to do so because your loan is under Islamic. If it's conventional loan then no problem under flexi loans

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QUOTE(Wind82 @ Mar 8 2016, 02:34 PM)
Even with full flexi loan also cannot?
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Sorry forgot to mention it to you. You can do this if the loan is flexi and under conventional loan. But you can't do this if it's an Islamic loan.


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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 9 2016, 02:34 PM)
Thanks for your reply, and calculation.

That ASB figure is average monthly, right? so RM1600 is basically capping of 80% from RM2000 monthly?
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Sorry didn't get you

Basically the Asb has 24k inside. 8% would be 1920 and divide by 12 months so it'll come to 160 per month
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QUOTE(yunbo @ Mar 9 2016, 03:01 PM)
Opss sorry to confuse you. those 24K is the annual dividend that I got, for 2014 and 2015 respectively
My cash saving in ASB is RM360K
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oic, then I will calculate it as RM2000 then.

The loan would be
1.1m with shoplot loan settled
1.0m with shoplot loan remain.

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