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mini orchard
post Mar 27 2022, 05:44 AM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Mar 26 2022, 10:00 PM)
Hi guys,
i wonder if i can apply loan from the same bank but two different branches for the same property ?
Will it be a problem. Reason is to compare if the rate differs from branch to branch. And also i am confused one of the branch is the developer contact and the other branch is own contact.
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You can shop verbally but all loan application submission will end up at the central loan processing dept.

I believed the system will filter duplicate applications.

Each vetbal quote is the same in the offer letter.

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post Mar 28 2022, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Mar 28 2022, 03:34 PM)
Thanks guys for your answers, i will submit to a single branch then.

However i am confused with MBB flexy and semi flexy. I have a full flexy with CIMB , whereby i pay 10 ringgit monthly charges and then i have cheque book i can dump into and keep there. As what i understand if you got excess money park there, the interest is charge on the balance . If i am not mistaken CIMB full flexy is overdraft.

I thought MBB is the same but the agent keep pushing for semi flexy which i need pay 25 per withdrawal and have to be minimum 1K.

Is overdraft a bad thing cause normally i park my money there and pay all my bills/expenses from that account since the interest is calculated everyday .
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Every bank loan account is different even though name is similar. Always read the tnc.

Avoid using 1 account for all purpose.
mini orchard
post Apr 2 2022, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(vinlyy @ Apr 1 2022, 10:53 PM)
Hi all bankers and sifus,

I’m  with my girlfriend trying to get loan for my first house. We plan to buy double storey KL.

Property price: 950k second double storey
Loan:hope to get 85%
Credit card: clear off every month no outstanding
Age: 28(me) 25(she)
Year of our business: 2year plus
Net income:
Enterprise profit
Year 2020 - 97996 - rm4083 monthly profit /person
Year 2021 -126188 - rm5257 monthly profit/person
2022(profit)
Jan -March 10k-14k per month
(5k-7k per person)
All sale and expenses got transaction in our account
We also got submit our income to LHDN for year 2020&2021
Monthly saving around 4k - 6k
Occupation: morning market hawker
-we operate our business under our partnership enterprise
-profit by sharing in business enterprise account
-ssm 2year ++
Commitment :
For me: ptptn rm250 /left 13 year

Every month clear no outstanding
She : no commitment
Marital status : single

Is our profile able get a loan for our 1st house purchase? What would be the loan margin and loan tenure? Thanks for the advice

It is big chance to get 85% loan?
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Your answers are here ....

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5227053&hl=
mini orchard
post Apr 11 2022, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(officepw @ Apr 11 2022, 09:20 AM)
Currently, which bank is offering the best mortgage interest rate? I plan borrow ~400 to 500 k. What is the %.
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Low rate offering is not standard across the board for each bank. It depends on borrower profiles, property and other tnc.
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post Apr 11 2022, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(officepw @ Apr 11 2022, 01:39 PM)
Would you suggest taking MRTA for property offered by bank that lends the house loan or just standalone? If want to MRTA, do you suggest another third party? Will it be cheaper?

Hope to have your best recommendation..
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Bank. If is a package, you can get slightly lower interest rate.

If anything happen, let them sort it out with the insurance co.

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post Apr 12 2022, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(officepw @ Apr 12 2022, 08:44 AM)
I dont intend to keep the property for long time. As my family grows, I may decide to move to another house and sell this property maybe in 10 years time. Based on this scenario, you still recommend me taking MRTA?

Secondly, usually banks will charge how many more % premium for MRTA? Is it cheaper than doing at other places? What are the pros and cons of buying MRTA from bank (besides maybe lesser borrowing interest rate)?
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Anything can happen to a buyer borrower tomorrow.

Is like buying Sports Toto jackpot. Either win or lose. Borrower or next of kin wins if he dead tomorrow. He will lose when he sells the house after 10 years.

Borrower to decide ... if borrower knows he will be alive in the next 10 years, mrta not necessary.

For second Q, other than maybe lower interest rate,.....nothing.


Conclusion ...

If anyone can undertake own risk, any insurance is not necessary ...life, medical, fire, motor etc.

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post Apr 12 2022, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(optimus9333 @ Apr 12 2022, 12:28 PM)
hi sifus..am pllanning to refinance house to settle bad debts

try walk in  1 2 banks not many staff in office nowadays to ask detail guard says just give number but no one call back.

what bank offer refinance+consolidate debt product? if refinance only dont think my DSR can qualify
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If you have problem paying current debts, consolidation wont help as it doesnt reduce the total debt. Is just putting all debts in one basket.
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post Apr 13 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(officepw @ Apr 13 2022, 09:20 AM)
Usually does the land office follows the valuation of property given by the bank and the bank's valuer?
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No. Govt does not get involve with private valuation.

Is not land office but jpph

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post Apr 13 2022, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(officepw @ Apr 13 2022, 11:46 AM)
So basically, when we buy a new house, the valuation of property by jpph will be different from SnP / bank valuation?
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JPPH valuation are for subsale transactions.

Developers projects comes under housing ministry.
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post Apr 17 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(officepw @ Apr 12 2022, 08:44 AM)
I dont intend to keep the property for long time. As my family grows, I may decide to move to another house and sell this property maybe in 10 years time. Based on this scenario, you still recommend me taking MRTA?

Secondly, usually banks will charge how many more % premium for MRTA? Is it cheaper than doing at other places? What are the pros and cons of buying MRTA from bank (besides maybe lesser borrowing interest rate)?
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post Apr 17 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 17 2022, 03:07 PM)
to be fair, if they lost the main breadwinner, they should have sold off such a luxurious house and buy one that they can afford.
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There are reasons why the wife didnt do it and cont staying. Is not that if she wants to sell, she can sell. Money and legal matters are interlink.

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post Apr 17 2022, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 17 2022, 03:50 PM)
well, i dun wanna pry but that would be an isolated case then since they are continuing staying there (legally or illegally).
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As an eg, in a simple scenario, even if the late husband willed the property to wife and if the market price is less than the balance loan and if she cannot top up the difference, the bank will not consent transfer of ownership to a buyer.

The only way is to 'enjoy' the 'free' stay and let the bank auction to recover the loan.
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post Apr 18 2022, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(mastedo @ Apr 18 2022, 04:26 PM)
Hi,

I just get offer for my house loan.

MRTA for 30 years. Cover only 350k.

My loan 520k. For 35 years.

If example anything happen to me. What happen to my loan.

Normally 30 years insurance start from year one right?

What happen to my balance loan. Do my wife need to pay lump sum?

Thanks
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Firstly, you are under insured. In the event something happen to you, whatever balance of coverage will be paid to the bank and the balance loan outstanding have to be paid by your wife.

Meanwhile, she can cont to pay the instalment until she sort out the ownership and then discuss with the bank thereafter.
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post Apr 18 2022, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(mastedo @ Apr 18 2022, 06:01 PM)
Currently house will be 2 name. Me and my wife. But loan under my name only.

Any suggestion to cover my loan. Can i buy MRTA from other company later?

So far my back up planning that my wife will use my life insurance if anything happen to me.
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Discuss with the bank to have full mrta coverage. Dont have to buy from others.

Or if the bank allow optional mrta, then you can consider buying your own mlta or normal term coverage.

Premium for mrta is total upfront payment which can be quite taxing on the borrower or borrower can finance the mrta while mlta or term coverage is yearly premium payt basis.

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post May 7 2022, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(abyone @ May 7 2022, 03:53 PM)
Hi,

Does banks still offer house loan that allows spouse to be guarantor?
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Is better to check with the banks as approval is at their discretions. You can also ask about co-borrowing.
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post May 7 2022, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(MEngineer @ May 7 2022, 02:55 PM)
Hi, need advice how mortgage top up aka cash out works. I have an existing housing loan with RHB bank and want to cash out since house increased in value. How to calculate how much I can cash out? Example below which is right calculation

1. House value: RM1,000,000
2. Bank loan: 90%
3. Remaining loan: RM 700,000
4. Prepayment made: RM 100,000

Calculation A or B is correct?

A. Cash out margin is RM900k - RM700k - RM100k = RM 100k cash out

B. Cash out margin is RM900k - RM700k = RM 200k cash out
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Withdraw cash from existing full flexi loan and cashout are two different approach.

Flexi loan cash withdrawal is subject to the tnc in the Loan Agreement / Offer Letter. It has nothing to do with property value.

Cashout is refinacing of existing property loan which has 'appreciated' in value subject to a formal valuation report and borrower has also repaid substantial principal amount to have more cash.

Refinancing involve payment of legal fees, stamp duty and valuation fee.
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post May 7 2022, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(MEngineer @ May 7 2022, 08:34 PM)
Yup I am looking to cash out due to increase in value it is a form of refinancing. My issue is with the calculation of amount I can refinance. Whether that deducts my additional pre-payment or just direct minus the remaining loan amount.
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The refinacing amount depends on the valuation report.

Original Purchase Price .... 1,000,000
Loan 90% .... 900 000
Current outstanding .... 700,000

Refinacing valuation .... 1,200,000
Loan 90% ..... 1,080,000
1,080,000 - 700,000 = 380,000 (cashout)

Nett cashout from refinacing ..... 380,000 - 200,000 = 180,000
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post May 8 2022, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(MEngineer @ May 8 2022, 05:01 AM)
Thanks for the detailed reply. The part is confusing a bit now is since my RHB loan is a flexible type loan, I put in additional cash into the loan account which can be withdrawn anytime. Now the nett cash out should it deduct the additional prepayment made into the loan?

Original Purchase Price .... 1,000,000
Loan 90% .... 900 000
Additional prepayment …. 100,000 (available to withdraw)
Current outstanding .... 600,000

Refinacing valuation .... 1,200,000
Loan 90% ..... 1,080,000
1,080,000 - 600,000 = 480,000 (cashout)
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1,080,000 - 600,000 - 100,000 = 380,000 (cash out)
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Your question is about flexi loan redraw facility which is different from refinancing. You have to check with RHB.

On the assumption that borrower is allow to redraw, the 'cashout' plus outstanding should not exceeed the original loan sum of 900k which should only be 300k + 600k = 900k. The balance 80k will be under personal loan repayment which will have different interest rates.

However, redraw amount are normally for prepayment amount and NOT for monthly instalments oredi paid. If the bank allow for that, borrower can never finish repaying the loan on a monthly basis and the tenure will exceed the original loan agreement. Is like starting a 'new' loan agreement with the same monthly repayment.


If you do refinancing from another bank, then ...

The refinancing bank will pay the outstanding loan (700k) to RHB and balance to the borrower (380k). This is subject to borrower income qualify for 1.02mil loan.

The new monthly repayment will be higher than current and tenure shorter due to age factor.

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QUOTE(MEngineer @ May 8 2022, 11:19 AM)
Oh actually it is like this. I got a flexible loan with additional funds inside that can be withdrawn. But I also want to get additional loan through cashing out. But how to compute the cash out amount is it including prepayment or excluding?
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From my understanding, borrower can withdraw capital prepayment., ie additional fund.

Additional loan through cashing out cannot use existing loan agreement. Borrower cannot loan more than what is stated in the current loan agreement even though the property value has increased.

However, you can do it through another bank .... as though you bought another property. This bank will pay the outstanding of current bank and whatever balance to you.

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post May 11 2022, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(hpares @ May 10 2022, 10:39 PM)
Hi all sifu. I applied for rumawip and loan 100% approved as below -
loan 300K
3% rate
33 years

I am noob in loan but my colleague says i should have apply 90% loan and pay the 10% from EPF. What if , when starting to pay the loan, I put in all my EPF account 2(assume it is 30k) to the loan? Will I rugi alot compare to 90% loan ?
And she did say as well, every 1/2 year, pump in all your EPF account 2 to the loan. At the end, your interest will be lower alot. Does it works like that?
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You friend is looking at the 300k interest which is higher.

From investment point of view, compare the 30k portion.

EPF 6% ... 30k = 1,800 pa

Loan 3% .... 30k = 900 pa

The 30k that remain in epf will earn 1800. If you take it out to part pay the loan, the loan interest will reduce by 900.

The nett loss is 900 interest to be earn in epf.

Naturally, if one pay more principal overtime, the interest portion will reduce accordingly.

There are other reasons why a borrower wants to pay a higher downpayment and withdraw from epf. He may want a lower monthly repayment to allocate the cash for other expenses or savings.

So not every financial decision in life is about 'profit' and is not wrong if one wants to forgo it.

Btw, which bank you took your loan ?

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