What is zero sum game?
If the vendor net a 100k profit selling to you, and you net a 100k profit 10 years later selling to another consumer, who will laugh and who will cry?

If the buyer is buying for own stay, why care about being a sohigh or not if he can afford it and likes the property?
You assuming everyone in property forum are investors and flippers? Even if yes, did they use your money to flip? You should wish they buy more and get burned to prove yourself right, no?

Typical....

His main point was, when you mention Setia Eco something, doesn’t matter in Shah Alam or any ulu place,  people will go “wow, that’s expensive!” It’s more about status honestly. You can deny all you want. But it does have a wow factor.

An entry level Rolex is still Rolex. A high end Seiko is just a Seiko.

It’s ok. The recent successful launches one after another by SEG dismiss all the fake news about Cyber not being a good choice for buyers.

It does reduce the image of other parcels. Imagine one day Merc starts launching rm70k cars to compete with protons.

its not 70k u know right

haters gonna hate le...

maybe this joker fails to book a unit there, thus all the hatred and negativity?!

U miss the BBB boat.

Boss,
U oledi hoot, no need to ask oledi.
Maybe ask about design.

Anyway, just 2 rupiah.
Corner in a GnG is a double edge sword.
U get the extra land and some privacy and your hobby in gardening gets to go new heights.
However, u can't renovate to use the extra land nor can you make full use of it.
Moreover, u pay more in maintenance fee.

Abit like going to a motor car exhibition.
Can see, can touch but cannot use.

Have you checked the maintenance fee for corer unit? I think the RM300 is for intermediate right? Based on previous parcels, it's based on the sq.ft of land area, not built-up. So you gonna pay double if they follow the same. 

true this!

the eco ardence fees....kow kow rm 500-600 a month!

can actually pay monthly for a Myvi, lagi best! lol.....

Ya need to budget this on top of the loan installment. And as mentioned above, it will increase from time to time 

First of all, buying part is not the easiest. Do you have any idea how many loan applications were rejected?

Secondly, if he/she manages to secure a loan to buy that expensive house (maybe 7-800K is nothing for you), surely he can find a way to pay for future maintenance fee and so on.

Many can only afford 500K and below, unless combined payslips. My point is, to buy a house with just one name is not easy. Many share with spouse or sibling’s name.

Believe this needs another round.

K02-03, Jalan Setia Marina 3/2, Setia Eco Glades,Cyberjaya ( Isle of Kamares)

Reserve price  🔥🔥RM 675,000🔥🔥        1414sqft
Freehold        Auction:18/5/19      Non bumi

Launch price from❌ RM 854,205❌ ( 2015 )

Time fly

Joined this forum Apr 2012

OMG, 7 years such slow progress, people may complain again. Lol

Flash floods in Cyberjaya 22.05.19

Price of development ?

U do know this one is a way smaller than previous one without any landscape no garden no fountain, Sand brick, no solar panel, rain water harvesting , normal window, normal door, electric points less, and the list goes on. It's a PR1MA of SEG. it's like why in USJ u can own a 3million plus house 100 meters away from another house of yours at 600k. My USJ 5 one is 4 to 5 times more to another one of mine across the road. It's different segment just like how seg u have 3.5m bungalows and rumah mudah at 700k

Yes, it’s depreciating, happy? Nothing but contempt. In fact, I don’t understand your existence here. It’s as if your sole purpose is to bring SEG down and to certain extent, cyber. I know you admire Eco Park and Eco Ardence a lot but there’s no need to speak so negatively. Only investors will buy and wait for it to appreciate and then make profit out of it. But those people who bought are mainly for own stay. It’s not like they don’t know the situation in cyber given your bad mouth since the beginning of this thread. Guess what? They still buy coz they just wanted a place to call home. Don’t be so contemptuous lah.

Good on you then. But if you bought it cheap in first place and sold it slightly more expensive but still affordable for buyers, there’s nothing to shout about really. I also have a property that has appreciated 30% that I bought 8 years ago because I bought it cheap back then. But I don’t go around bragging and comparing this over the high end ones that has yet to appreciate. And honestly, I don’t care. Unless I buy with the intention of flipping due to greed. Then I’m in for trouble.

The correct way to calculate total gain in property investment is capital gain + rental income. Anyone playing this game by relying solely on capital gain shall not get the best out of the investment asset.

In stock investment there is capital gain + dividend income too, no? If someone does stock trading with short term mindset, that's different lah....

Don't forget ppl can buy wf loan, 90%? The investment could be a fraction of purchase price... Rental income helps cover a lot of the holding cost too.

Ya as homestay , who and why care so much about returns ? Just only paper gain or loss ? 15% return for 2 years ..sounds like a miracle to me .. ..

I bought a stock ( share )  at 15sen , sold some and keep some and hold for about 4 years, now traded low at rm 1.26, to me it is just pure luck, nothing to shout about..no need to go round n round to challenge any other investors ....

Not every  asset class must compete for higher returns..some can be of lower risks..according to one own risk profile ..

Learn to respect other investors as well..

U are anti investing from day one ..in most investment threads.u spoke .....for past many years

I do not really know your purpose here...