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 AMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide

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alive88
post Oct 3 2007, 11:52 AM

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hey guys, how can i set the ram timing?im using x2 4000 at 2.8, but my ram runs at 460..ram is xms2 cl5 2gb. if i pushmore, it wont boot, if a bit more, its unstable..
the v core is 1.4,v ram 2.0, ht mltiplier 3, fsb 264x10.5 mltplier. i need to lower the ram timing to OC more rite? how should i do it? my mobo is Biostar T590SLi n psu is ggbyte odin pro 550w
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post Oct 4 2007, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 3 2007, 02:19 PM)
raise timing not lower it .
CAS/TCL - TRCD - TRP - TRAS
this one you have to read more from DDR2 discussion thread .
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owh..thankx guys..i thought i nd to lower it..haha..my noobness..sorry.
can u give me a hint bout how to raise the timing? wheres the ddr2 discussion thread?
alive88
post Oct 21 2007, 01:13 PM

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aiya..this thread sdah x fofuler ker
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post Nov 30 2007, 08:20 PM

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push the printscreen button and then open ms paint and paste..tadaaa,,theres ur screenshot

how come ur ram get burned by jus increasing the fsb?
it will burn if u play wif voltage, n when the voltage or vdimm for the ram is over

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post Dec 1 2007, 12:31 PM

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ur clockspeed aka ur cpu speed is the bus speed times the multiplier
its not normal...cdoz its too damn low..the reason it happens is bcoz u set the ht link multiplier to 1..so the ratio is 1:1..so,ur bus speed now is 276, u better set the ht multiplier to 5...not cpu multiplier(be sure bout this)
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post Dec 2 2007, 12:50 AM

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i dont know bout the msi bios.
but u can check the ht link multiplier..the one u said auto/200, if im not mistaken its the bus speed...u not need to change that..usually u can find the ht multiplier have 1x 2x 3x 4x 5x and auto only..set it to 3x or 4x lah..afraid ur pc wont stable..to make it easier, post ur SS of cpu-z here
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post Dec 2 2007, 09:13 AM

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ur welcome..
of coz dual channel...afraid ur ram will bottleneck ur proc...change to new ram...ur using 400 divider rite?play wif timing also...
neway, u can push ur proc more...
try to play wif some vcore...remember, while oc better put ur ht link below 1000, when ur oc is stble, then u may raise ur ht multiplier...im running at 1333mhz now...n some of them r running at 1600mhz..
it is all about luck n skill..
never give up...mybe today cant even reach 3ghz...who knows tomorrow u can achieve 4ghz?hoho

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post Dec 2 2007, 03:11 PM

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ala mat...bg harapan palsu skali skala x salah..haha
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post Dec 3 2007, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(wyman1991 @ Dec 3 2007, 11:53 AM)
dunno la...i did what he said...print screen then go to paint and paste...

then when i try upload canot..
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make sure when u save, save it using jpeg format or extension..


Added on December 3, 2007, 10:39 pm
QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 3 2007, 11:40 AM)
using jpeg cant ker??


Added on December 3, 2007, 11:41 am
saje nak dengki ko tongue.gif
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ek eleh...xpe2...aku bg ko dengki btul2 nanti..hoho

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post Dec 4 2007, 08:01 PM

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@wyman
i dont know the reason why ur ram get burned...mind to tell what vdimm do u use?
if u tighten the timing falsely...the effect only the pc wont boot..
loose it...sure can boot..
the speed, too low to get burned...unless ur vdimm is over 2.2..or someone pour petrol and burn ur ram..
or mybe..short circuit...but if SC, im quite sure ur whole rig will burn

@mailboxaie

1.nope..its not the multiplier..multiplier should have like this..6x 7x 8x 9x blablabla..zomething like that..

2..let me check first..afta this..i explain to u briefly

@lynch..soc 939..u may post in am2 thread to ask..still have those old OCers who used to OC soc 939...neway..best of luck(OCers need a lot of luck)hoho

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post Dec 6 2007, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(mailboxaie @ Dec 4 2007, 10:09 PM)
@alive88

thanks, im waiting wif great hopes brows.gif  brows.gif
all the best to ocers.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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look at ur cpu-z screenie..


core speed=bus speed X cpu multiplier

bus speed=cpu frequency

ht link=bus speed/cpu frequency X ht link multiplier(1x,2x,3x,4x,5x,auto)

ram speed=corespeed divide by the ram divider


main thing in OC is the bus speed a.k.a ur cpu frequency
when u increase the bus speed, u will increase the ht link, and the ram speed.
for example..ur default bus speed is 200mhz and multiplier x11..
say if ur ram is value ram ddr2 667..n u use 667 divider(ddr=double data rate=means 667/2=333)

now, ur pc spec is like this..refer to the above point

corespeed-2200(200 x 11)

bus speed-(200)

ht link-1000 (200 x 5(auto is always 5))

ram speed;
cpu is 2200MHz and the divider is 667
ram speed=ur ram is (333) 667 effective
2200/333 = 6.6 = ur ram divider is 7

**then ram speed is
2200/7 = 314mhz( every time u increase the bus speed, the ram speed will increase together..)


**(borrow likito calculation in am2 thread)thanks bro likito notworthy.gif

get it? if OC fail, check among these features..the ram problem can be solve in various way, etc, changing the ram divider and loosen the tming to make room for the proc
ht link can be boost up till 1xxx..but when OC, keep under 1000 to make sure it stable.but once stable, make 1+++(1600 is sweet)

play safe wif vcore!vdimm!and beware of the temp! mad.gif dont do any suicide attempt if ur not expert..(i dont coz im noob)hehe..but must be creative in tweaking!and lucky..haha laugh.gif

thats all for now..mybe need to edit summore..sleepy rite now..anyone who find errors please help me to edit..
thanks notworthy.gif

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post Dec 8 2007, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(amane_kaoru @ Dec 7 2007, 09:26 PM)
i agree.... but i think it's considered okay for socket 939. i'm planning to get a AMD Quad Core. if i'm not mistaken there's a AMD Phenom Quad Core in the market. i'm wordering how good would it be. could it beat Intel C2Q??
any idea on the latest news of AMD Phenom?
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nope..it cant beat c2q..even c2d also hard to beat.phenom lose to amd x2 +6000.
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post Dec 10 2007, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(muh_is @ Dec 10 2007, 09:16 PM)
well.. erm.. need some help.. i got 2.6GHz with my F2 Windsor 3800+
but then, everytime 10 minits orthos, the pc will auto restart.. what's u guys opinion? is it cos of the vcore? or it's the limit edi? or issit RAM timings? here's my screenshot..
user posted image

btw, my sig shows the spec..
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i assume that u r using ddr400 divider rite?
2.6ghz wiff 1.475vcore MAYBE not enough..
ur maybe ur vdimm is not enough,coz u set a tight timing..try loosen first..use CL5


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QUOTE(wyman1991 @ Dec 10 2007, 10:15 PM)
eh........

no one wanna help me out ar?
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Added on December 10, 2007, 10:16 pm

not enough thermal paste?
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owh,u want to know the reason why ur ram burned or what?

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post Dec 12 2007, 04:49 PM

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i think ur multiplier should be higher rite?mybe 11 or 12 isnt it?coz my 4000 brisby is 10.5..
remember, my brisby can only achieve 280 fsb..more than that, wont boot..
u better change ur multiplier
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post Dec 12 2007, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(muh_is @ Dec 12 2007, 06:19 PM)
u mean, i have to try with 5-5-15 2T first? i tried.. but can't hold up for 10 mins at 264MHz FSB.. vcore at 1.52 n vdimm at 2.09..
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vcore 1.52 i think is enough for F2..vdimm at 2.1?it should be enuf if u r using ddr400 divider..what type of ram r u using?ur timing?
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post Dec 12 2007, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(MizuChi @ Dec 12 2007, 06:58 PM)
right now I've reverted back to 280x10 @ +0.200V which seems to be the most stable so far.. I have a policy of keeping the idle CPU temp below 40C.. maybe I should look into some better cooling? how's your system handling the heat?
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u may stay at the most stable speed...
my cpu at 2.9ghz(278X10.5), vcore 1.5v vdimm 2.1,ram@970mhz 5-4-4-13-23-2T
temp, 42-43C.load temp, 65-68C..using stock cooler and SHARP stand fan with its speed set at 3 tongue.gif
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post Dec 13 2007, 10:44 AM

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My answer is,
1) yup..still in safe position..increase ur vdimm till 2.1
2) thers possibility, but sometimes its about ur ram..as i told u,increase ur vdimm
3) normal
4) yup,it is
5) nope
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post Dec 14 2007, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(muh_is @ Dec 13 2007, 08:51 PM)
why is it with my current speed, using prime 95, no errors for couple of hours.. but when running OCCT or Orthos, can't even stand for half an hour? n can play NFS carbon + movie making from morning till evening without a single lag?
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orthos stress both of ur core..prime 95 only single,correct me if im wrong..probably ur prob is not enuf vcore or vdimm..i also experience this b4.. i set my brisby to 2.8ghz wih 1.36vcore,orthos 4 minutes failed alrdy,i add till 1.4vcore,no prob at all..
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post Dec 14 2007, 04:03 PM

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then u should lower ur OC lor..
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post Dec 15 2007, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Dec 15 2007, 11:41 AM)
any bigger risk if i push Vdimm?
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if its 2.2vdimm,n u use heatspreader,its good enuf, but if w/o heatspreader, ull need active cooling.all over 2.2 must have active cooling

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