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 AMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide

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ktek
post Oct 5 2006, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Oct 4 2006, 12:26 PM)
here's my screenie on my first OC attempt
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OF course, i do have some question as noob always do
1) I cant get it running at more than 245Mhz bus speed...what's holding me back rite now
2) It's freakin hot ... i'm thingking of lowering down the VCore but the lowest posible option was 1.40. I've seen some people lowering it to 1.36 ... how is this possible
3) anything wrong in those screenie ??
i'm sorry to bug in, mod did this icon_rolleyes.gif
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perhaps your superpi result is quite slow ?
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post Oct 5 2006, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 5 2006, 12:07 AM)
perhaps your superpi result is quite slow ?
wa ... another prob ka ?? might be ur speed are 50Mhz more than me .. hehe lame doesnt it

why aa it differ so much?
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post Oct 5 2006, 03:25 PM

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HT link more than 1000mhz is it ok?
btw mine using micron technology pc2100 rams..290 mhz*9 at 1.45Vcore, my memory clock setting at 133mhz and ddr running at 189*2@2.8v 2.5-2-2-5..are my setting going to kill something on my system? but i ran prime95 up to 11hrs with no errors..idle i got 37c and full load at 53c..if i wanna go higher..i have to change better clocking rams? or i can run with 100mhz memory and increase more v core to get more HTT?i think my rams are running waaay over the rated speed..even a cap ayam summore..i'll post some screenies tomorrow..

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post Oct 5 2006, 04:08 PM

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turbo10, i believe that HT more than 1000Mhz is ok but not recommended.anyway, u can lower the ldt multiplier so that the ht speed does not exeed 1Ghz..they dont give any significant performance increase anyway.
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err .. is superpi supposed to be varied even at the same speed ???
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post Oct 6 2006, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(x800 @ Oct 5 2006, 04:08 PM)
turbo10, i believe that HT more than 1000Mhz is ok but not recommended.anyway, u can lower the ldt multiplier so that the ht speed does not exeed 1Ghz..they dont give any significant performance increase anyway.
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thanx bro for the advice..now i got the idea..i'm really new in overclocking and learning from u guys and tips in the LYN..it really helps a lot.btw i managed to get only 2.6ghz by running 133mhz devider..my finding was memory clock effects the super pi results, and my results seems better then when i was running 100mhz devider..i know u guys knew that already..for a noobie like me,it was a practical approach to overclocking...heheh tongue.gif tongue.gif ..so i need a gooder ram to replace my lousy outdated pc2100 ram..one more thing..do the ram size improves 3dmarks benching and super pi?

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this is my setting..anything i could improve? ran this setting with prime95 for 11hrs and stopped with no errors..can it be consider as stable? i know my super pi is super slow considering i am running 2.6g..i think running with better rams could make it faster..i guess..
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cracksys
there a lot of other causes that can vary the superpi result even if the cpu is running the same speed.

turbo1
yes u're right, changing to better rams will make the superpi result faster.i think there's a discussion n tips on how to improve ur superpi result in this thread.
as for the size of the rams, i'm not quite sure on the effect on superpi, but in 3dmark06 and gaming, there will be an improvement since u're currently using 512MB.
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should be quite stable already... not bad i should say
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post Oct 6 2006, 04:42 PM

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thanx guys for the advice..seems that need ram upgrade for me..if got some money mebbe getting a pair of ram..512x2 set from LYN garage sale..any rams u guys could suggest? but i read somewhere here in lyn that said mobo sometimes a bit choosy with rams..i dunno my mobo love what ram..so far current ram i'm using works like a gem..working waaay above its rated speed..wanna try run dual channel..see what can improve.hehe..u guys know what...90% of my rig parts and 99% help and knowledge come from the LYN..glad i found this community..
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QUOTE(turbo10 @ Oct 6 2006, 04:42 PM)
thanx guys for the advice..seems that need ram upgrade for me..if got some money mebbe getting a pair of ram..512x2 set from LYN garage sale..any rams u guys could suggest? but i read somewhere here in lyn that said mobo sometimes a bit choosy with rams..i dunno my mobo love what ram..so far current ram i'm using works like a gem..working waaay above its rated speed..wanna try run dual channel..see what can improve.hehe..u guys know what...90% of my rig parts and 99% help and knowledge come from the LYN..glad i found this community..
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clockin a stick of ram is alwez easier than 2stick @ dual channel. neway, 2.6GHz w/ stock voltage is really impressive. not so familiar w/ abit board, but i suppose hynix ram will help if ur on tight budget, else, go for tccd. smile.gif

my 2 cents. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2006, 05:26 PM

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yup bro..been using single stick rite now..i am sure like what u said the headache will come if i upgrade to dual stick/ channel..but i will go for 2 sticks..u can see my rig is kinda budget one so i am going for a pair of budget rams like hynix u mentioned..TCCD might be an option if ada duit lebih..thanx for the help bro
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i agree on getting the hynix rams.someone's doing a bulk for hynix rams, n price is rm199 per 512mb piece.one more thing, i dont think high performance rams are cost effective.yes,they do give u better benchmarks, but there's not much fps gained in real life gaming by spending 1k on high perf rams rather than spending the same amount on a better gc.that's just my 2 cents though smile.gif

u have much more potential to go there bro..bump up the voltage see your venice fly thumbup.gif
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get dt or bt-d43 if possible, not so sure bout d oc'bility of their new brother cp-d43. i will alwez go for those items with proven performance, instead of buyin d new stuff which mite end up as a flop. mebe i was just bein bad luck sometimes... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(footie @ Oct 6 2006, 04:47 PM)
clockin a stick of ram is alwez easier than 2stick @ dual channel. neway, 2.6GHz w/ stock voltage is really impressive. not so familiar w/ abit board, but i suppose hynix ram will help if ur on tight budget, else, go for tccd. smile.gif

my 2 cents.  biggrin.gif
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2.6GHz@1.45vCORE? me myself clocked 2.88GHz@1.4vCORE sleep.gif brows.gif, grumble.gif show off

actually yes, TCCD is better i must say, coz, i successfully clocked at DDR640 stable whistling.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Oct 6 2006, 06:45 PM)
2.6GHz@1.45vCORE? me myself clocked 2.88GHz@1.4vCORE sleep.gif brows.gif, grumble.gif show off

actually yes, TCCD is better i must say, coz, i successfully clocked at DDR640 stable whistling.gif
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2.6GHz @ stock voltage considered above average ledi, it's about luck sometimes to get a magical stepping... smile.gif

off topic:
mind to share a prime stable screeny mate? superb ram u have there... rclxms.gif
i only manage to squeeze this outa my tccd... sad.gif

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post Oct 6 2006, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(footie @ Oct 6 2006, 06:47 PM)
2.6GHz @ stock voltage considered above average ledi, it's about luck sometimes to get a magical stepping...  smile.gif 

off topic:
mind to share a prime stable screeny mate? superb ram u have there...  rclxms.gif
i only manage to squeeze this outa my tccd...  sad.gif

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i'll use my 2.835GHz's screenie, as i can't find 2.88GHz screenie sweat.gif, anyhow..here's the screenie as u request biggrin.gif

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BTW, ur timing is quite tight, loosen it... say 3-4-4-8 at 2.8vDIMM biggrin.gif

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post Oct 6 2006, 09:05 PM

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awesome chip... thumbup.gif

i can get d ram run on 315MHz w/ same timing, but only prime stable for an hour plus... doh.gif

i think 313MHz is d max, or mebe i need a chip w/ better mem. controller... sad.gif
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QUOTE(footie @ Oct 6 2006, 09:05 PM)
awesome chip...  thumbup.gif

i can get d ram run on 315MHz w/ same timing, but only prime stable for an hour plus...  doh.gif

i think 313MHz is d max, or mebe i need a chip w/ better mem. controller...  sad.gif
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FYI, i almost throw away my CPU because i tot this is a faulty one sweat.gif, anyway, different chip different max speed i must say icon_idea.gif. i did run clock at DDR660, but fail in every stress test (memtest, prime) but did manage to boot successfully, i wonder if i can set at 2.9vDIMM, but still 2.9vDIMM is considered high for TCCD sweat.gif
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post Oct 7 2006, 12:02 AM

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almost forgotten to ask , anyone got other than "assembly in malaysia" athlon64 ?
well , i'm using "assembly in china" one shakehead.gif .

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 7 2006, 12:02 AM)
almost forgotten to ask , anyone got other than "assembly in malaysia" athlon64 ?
well , i'm using "assembly in china" one  shakehead.gif  .

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ohmy.gif, never thought got "Assemble In China" one...i thought all AMD Processor assembled in Malaysia wink.gif

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