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sonerin
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Jan 2 2015, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jan 2 2015, 09:01 PM) I am using external DAC for USB purposes... This is the only disappointment from PM6005 -> lack of USB That is maybe a better choice. There are a lot external DAC that is better than internal dac
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wim1983
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Jan 2 2015, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jan 2 2015, 09:02 PM) How you connect? You using the internal dac? I just use ODAC for the moment, no choice, I need more money if want to play with the Marantz DAC
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sonerin
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Jan 2 2015, 10:06 PM
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If you really going to use dac is better to go for external dac
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fx20
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Jan 2 2015, 10:31 PM
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The ODAC will sound more transparent than the Cirrus Logic CS4398.
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butt
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Jan 2 2015, 10:48 PM
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All Cirrus Logic CS4398 based chip or any particular model? I personally think chip is only part of associated component before the final product, in which a good implementation of the chip will make a difference.
This post has been edited by butt: Jan 2 2015, 11:01 PM
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bad2928
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Jan 2 2015, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Jan 2 2015, 10:31 PM) The ODAC will sound more transparent than the Cirrus Logic CS4398. sorry for off topic,how about cirrus logic cs4398 compare to ess sabre (ES9016S)?
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TSchanhin
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Jan 2 2015, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(butt @ Jan 2 2015, 10:48 PM) All Cirrus Logic CS4398 based chip or any particular model? I personally think chip is only part of associated component before the final product, in which a good implementation of the chip will make a difference. 100% agreed here. Comparison across chipset only valid when all parties are designing based on top notch quality circuit. Btw, do you guys feel that Saber 9018 sound a bit fake with too much 'details'? I mean not natural and might be an issue for pro-long listening experiences. This post has been edited by chanhin: Jan 2 2015, 11:30 PM
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ktek
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Jan 3 2015, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jan 2 2015, 11:29 PM) 100% agreed here. Comparison across chipset only valid when all parties are designing based on top notch quality circuit. Btw, do you guys feel that Saber 9018 sound a bit fake with too much 'details'? I mean not natural and might be an issue for pro-long listening experiences. try not using the highest rate like 192khz. too balance and flat tone, no emotion. it will makes some changes to overall natural tone
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fx20
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Jan 3 2015, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jan 2 2015, 11:29 PM) 100% agreed here. Comparison across chipset only valid when all parties are designing based on top notch quality circuit. Btw, do you guys feel that Saber 9018 sound a bit fake with too much 'details'? I mean not natural and might be an issue for pro-long listening experiences. It is about pairing. The sabre is rather transparent and you need to part it with right gears to get its best. If you felt fatigue after long listening, the culprit is probably your speaker. BTW, the differences in DACs is not significant from 1 to another. They are audible only if you do side-side comparison.
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fx20
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Jan 3 2015, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(butt @ Jan 2 2015, 10:48 PM) All Cirrus Logic CS4398 based chip or any particular model? I personally think chip is only part of associated component before the final product, in which a good implementation of the chip will make a difference. DAC in 6005. The ODAC is designed by NwAvGuy and Yoyodyne Consulting and it is meant to be flat and balanced. Some find it too dull for music, but it can be a real gem if you can pair it correctly with a transparent speaker.
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fx20
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Jan 3 2015, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 3 2015, 01:09 AM) try not using the highest rate like 192khz. too balance and flat tone, no emotion. it will makes some changes to overall natural tone I dont get your point.
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sonerin
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Jan 3 2015, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Jan 3 2015, 06:56 AM) It is about pairing. The sabre is rather transparent and you need to part it with right gears to get its best. If you felt fatigue after long listening, the culprit is probably your speaker. BTW, the differences in DACs is not significant from 1 to another. They are audible only if you do side-side comparison. Agree. Without proper pairing is pointless
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wim1983
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Jan 3 2015, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 31 2014, 03:44 PM) Sorry to hijack this thread but I am curious to ask, why need to warm up first before it can shine ? Pm6005 is a solid amp right ? I thought only tube need warm up. Please correct me if I am wrong. I think is break in, when playing music in brand new state, I feel the bass a bit too strong, now I feel that the bass just nice after few days playback, whether it can be better will have to keep track 1st
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wim1983
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Jan 3 2015, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 3 2015, 02:09 AM) try not using the highest rate like 192khz. too balance and flat tone, no emotion. it will makes some changes to overall natural tone Actually, there is an article try to prove that playing music in 24bits 192khz is meaningless, hmm interesting..
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TSchanhin
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Jan 3 2015, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jan 3 2015, 03:30 PM) Actually, there is an article try to prove that playing music in 24bits 192khz is meaningless, hmm interesting..  Not sure on stereo. But I can clearly hear the differences between DTS and DTS HD as well as Dobly vs Dobly HD. The differences are only on the details.. All their volume are same on respective audio tracks.
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wim1983
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Jan 4 2015, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jan 3 2015, 04:44 PM) Not sure on stereo. But I can clearly hear the differences between DTS and DTS HD as well as Dobly vs Dobly HD. The differences are only on the details.. All their volume are same on respective audio tracks. What you mean is audio track like 5.1/7.1 right?
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fx20
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Jan 4 2015, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jan 4 2015, 01:33 AM) What you mean is audio track like 5.1/7.1 right?  He meant 16/48 vs 24/96
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ktek
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Jan 8 2015, 11:42 PM
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mini cd receiver MCR503, just got it back from lending a friend.
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SUSsupersound
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Jan 8 2015, 11:52 PM
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Owner of SR5007 reporting in.
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Topet
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Jan 9 2015, 08:42 AM
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want to change my avr to 6007 or 6008 but i think i'll stick with my LX 56 at the moment...
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