QUOTE(walabies @ Feb 1 2007, 12:51 AM)
Or maybe they mounted my driver upside-down?
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QUOTE(walabies @ Feb 1 2007, 12:51 AM) Or maybe they mounted my driver upside-down? |
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Feb 1 2007, 01:25 PM
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Feb 2 2007, 12:46 AM
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Feb 2 2007, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Feb 2 2007, 06:52 PM) Back from Han's place.. Enjoyed the AKG701.. but not as much as wanted to.. haha.. I suggest Pcwork listen to a pair which is fully-burned. I feel some details is losing compare to my last visited at SG esp soundstage. The soundstage got potential to be more wider. (It suppose to be alot wider.) Anyway, 180hours burned.. Too many hours to move on!.. thx for the invitation..Han. hoho Now wait for Walabies bring up his MS2i to shake my mind. |
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Feb 2 2007, 07:43 PM
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Feb 2 2007, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Feb 2 2007, 08:55 PM) Surprisingly, LDM+ is quite powerful enuff to drive AKG701, dun compare wif Grado phones(of cuz). Well prior to my K701 purchase i scare my LD2+ cannot feed it with enough power, but then only i notice the K701 ain't a power hog. In fact it can reach normal listening volume directly from my EMU (max out every slider that is). As you can see, K701 can be powered solely by the EMU card and i'm pretty sure every headamp can power it up too (and that includes basic CMOYs etc)....snipped... Walabies, I couldn't finalize impression on AKG701 since it is still at preliminary stage. And it sounds difference from my first tried experience. Now i can imaging how worse it sounds like when it is fresh outta the box after Han explained details bout it. You know, i posted at Headfi saying how crappy it sounded fresh out-of-the-box, even a $10 headphone can easily pawn the K701; and they ask me to visit a doctor to check my ears. Duh... |
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Feb 2 2007, 10:29 PM
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You know, you really scare me off this evening. I was surprised to see you turn the knob until it reaches the end! Guess what, after you left i tried your volume on track 6, and i'm pretty sure you can pick up the airplane at <20s interval p.s. |
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Feb 2 2007, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 2 2007, 10:19 PM) well yeah, u shud check ur ears then, cos a fresh outtabox k701 is still nice compared to an RS1 and i am more in preference with the fresh K701 over RS1 for the warmth and airiness. Oh, by no mean K701 is easy to drive..justify can be driven and can be driven properly and be can driven optimally. you know, K701 is really a fun headphone. It left me with nasty impression, then it learned how to speak clearly, then it learned how to pump out bass. Oh yeah, now my baby is learning how to pump out bass with impact. |
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Feb 2 2007, 11:44 PM
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Feb 3 2007, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 2 2007, 11:52 PM) 197 hours, ur pretty fast in burning your k701, 24/7 ehh..haha! Come come, sikit lagi reach optimum..u can do it! you know, i can be really desperate when i want something. Yeah i have been burning-in for almost 24/7 (lolz, today (03/02/07) marks the 11th day i own my K701!). Optimum is 1000 hours leh, what sikit lagi? So desperate, haiz... just like how i'm desperate for sex... that was before i got my AKG. |
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Feb 3 2007, 12:18 AM
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ijan have you ever tried removing the earpads? I wonder is it possible to do some "mod" |
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Feb 3 2007, 12:32 AM
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Lee, i'm not sure how to define "a well-driven K701", but my LD's volume knob isn't at maximum. My source (EMU0404) is at -7 DB and i'm pretty sure this setup is capable to drive the K701. Just that i'd already familiar with how my Grado SR80 sounds, and its bass impact was really great. However i do notice that my K701 has better instrument seperation, better vocals, and certainly better soundstage than my SR80. I just miss the bass of my SR80 and i wish the AKG's bass will get stronger after burning-in for over 1000 hours.
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Feb 3 2007, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 3 2007, 12:43 AM) My 1212m is at -30dB, ASIO 0.0dB, FooBar volume at -6.0dB (to reduce clipping in case sum super bad mastering album comes out), PPA gain 10dB..total -26dB. I tried your settings, and i guess the volume of your PPA is maxed out? If follow your settings i achieve my normal listening volume with my LD2+'s knob at max. LD2+ has quite a high gain, in the 20-30dB range. I' imagining how loud u guys listen to them..and like bsl555, the LD2+ seems to be unable to drive ur K701 properly.. I still don't really get it. What do you mean by "drive the K701 properly"? |
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Feb 3 2007, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 3 2007, 12:50 AM) my ppa has no volume control, thus full 10dB gain. Like bsl555 said, impedance mismatch, and just might be, insufficient current (power?) to drive the k701 optimally, resorting you to increase the volume. Then i guess my finding is same as yours, ijan. Using your Patchmix settings and max volume on my LD2+ and i reached my normal listening volume, so i guess my source + setup is no difference with yours?By the way i found this info: "The LD II+ has 12X gain with the jumper in and 9X gain with the jumper taken out. It has (and I'm not sure how) higher current capacity with the jumper out so can drive lower impedance phones better." Should i remove the jumper then? |
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Feb 3 2007, 01:15 AM
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Feb 3 2007, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE(walabies @ Feb 3 2007, 01:34 AM) its much more complicated than that. Now i'm getting more blur with all these impedance stuff. For certain i don't need to crank the volume all the way up until it stretches the limits, and for certain my current K701 sounds better than my SR80 except for the weaker bass impact; and i never have the slightest thought that my amp is underpowered. As far as i can remember, Mr. Yang (the manufacturer of LD) uses AKG K501 and another Sennheiser headphones to test his prototypes. If the LD2+ is capable of driving the K501 (300 ohm if i'm not mistaken), why not the K701? |
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so you're suggesting a solid-state amp? I admit the LD2+ is a warm amp (like all other valve amps), but it compensates my 0404's brightness. Anyway i'll try to audition other forumer's headamp during the March meet up before i decide whether to keep this amp or not.
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Feb 3 2007, 02:17 AM
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May i ask how to determine whether an amp is capable to drive a pair of headphones?
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Feb 3 2007, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Feb 3 2007, 02:30 AM) ps: I'm guessing that you are at the stage where you love swapping tubes just to see how things sound, and the bling bling must be very intriguing time to sleep! |
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QUOTE(PcWork @ Feb 3 2007, 10:58 AM) ...Just like a poor hero soloing in the middle lane, then all the sudden got gang-banged by the opposing team in a DotA game... QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Feb 3 2007, 11:24 AM) I oso agree that u should attend the DIY gathering at KL. Too many headamps around, everybody said they are using the good one.. Until u listen to it, u only realize the improvement is dat little or dun even worth u spent over thousand plus to retrieve the result which might lower than ur expectation. |
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