well..im currently working in pwc.
usually the hire a few times in a year. from what i hear, there's gonna be a batch coming in dec.
tho it might slow down a bit 'cos of the current economic slowdown.

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Added on November 8, 2008, 1:14 amwho's ur friend? i prolly might know him/her since i've been there quite awhile

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Added on November 8, 2008, 1:18 am... overall, the big4 are fairly similar in terms of job scope etc. but i've got to say that PwC has a more extensive methodology and training regime as compared to the other 3. my 2c

This post has been edited by sysh: Nov 8 2008, 01:18 AM

IMHO, it's all the same.. in the Big4. You have your peaks, and you have your troughs. So it depends on your lucj (i.e. clientele that you get and bosses you work with).

What's REC? Restructuring?
I've got a few friends in EY at the moment, perhaps I can snoop a bit

Haha!. I see. How long were you in PwC?


True, but we've greatly toned down the need for substantive TODs in recent times. Then again, it all depends on the sectors that you're in. I hardly do much of substantive TODs anyway but the fact on other Big4's metholdologies that I've seen so far.. hmm, that's another story


I think you meant, GPW Anyhow I can't comment much on the other Big4 working culture 'cos you'll have the easy and hard times. IMHO, I don't think that my dept's all that tense and kiasu (it's prolly others then). So far my friends who have moved on within the Big4 says their experience in other firms are different. Just takes awhile to get used to it.

What Peter said is true. If you're due for promotion, there isn't a slightest reason why they should hold you back. If you don't get it, heck.. join the other Big4..they'll definitely take you in

Yea.. Good luck with that. It's probably more fun than trying to learn up FRS 111 and FRS 201. They're a pain

Yes you can.
If not, I can always give you the HR Manager's email address (if you want) and you can send it straight to her.
That's for PwC anyway




Thanatos: I hate FRS 111 and FRS 201. Damn PDE is really annoying. Good luck to you too..haha!

One must first ask, Assurance or Advisory?
Well,
... in this current economic situation, the so-called mobility programme at least for PwC is far and few in between since a several offices (e.g. UK, Australia and US) have in fact frozen recruitment and slowed secondments.

And typically these "exchange programmes" would typically benefit AM / Mgr level.. ie. > 4 - 5 years experience. That's the reality, unfortunately.

FRS 201: Property Development Activities

Maybe 'cos we're the 2 biggest Accounting Firm in the country? J/k.. maybe they're working too hard and can't join LYN

Orientation is fun...
Let me know which industry you're in.
CIPS PLAS is good

You can apply online (through the website)
or you can also email them you Cover Letter, CV & Transcripts

Both ways are fine.

From what I know, there was a batch in Dec. There should be a batch in January (last year and few years there were Jan batches). If not, there'll definitely be one in Feb or Mar

Rest assure that the Big4 is still hiring albeit on a smaller scale..

I recommend Deloitte if it comes to Taxation Services

1. You can apply online, or email the HR Manager
2. ACCA or Degree (relevant discipline)
3. As normal as an accounting should be. You have peak seasons, and off-peak seasons. If you're expecting a 9am - 5pm job, not suitable then
4. Approx. RM2.3k - RM2.6k +- (depends on which firm etc)

If that's you in the profile pic.. u've stand a better chance..hehe! jk
Jokes aside..

It all depends on how you carry yourself during the interview. Let me tell you that you can have excellent results from Uni and fare pretty badly in the working environment. You need to be adaptable and have the willingness to learn. I've seen a few of my junior colleagues working under me with far better results, but they can't seem to excel well when it comes to grasping the firm's methodology and soft-skills.

In short, a decent result will give you the opportunity to get an interview..while the other part is totally up to you.

P/s: I got in into the Big4 with mostly credits (and some passes). Just try to apply, you'll never know

Didn't mean to discourage you.. actually I thought my answer was pretty encouraging.
If you need help with questions asked and how to go about the interview.. just PM me. I'll be happy to help.

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Added on December 19, 2008, 12:23 pmYes. They will still consider.
You've got to know that the Big4 doesn't just do Audit (Assurance).
They have many departments and usually people I know with Non-Accounting
background apply for jobs in the Advisory / Consulting department. But if you
enjoy Auditing, just apply.. these firms have in-firm training for Non-Accounting graduates.

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 19 2008, 12:23 PM

This might seem petty, but if you are going to apply for PwC..do get it right. Some managers are quite particular, it's elementary to know who you want to work with

It's not PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Pricewaterhouse Coopers nor is it PWC
It's PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC).

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Added on December 19, 2008, 6:51 pm1. They are hiring less, but I'm not sure about the intakes. I can ask my HR Dept for you though. Might take awhile 'cos most ppl are on leave at the end of the year.

2. It's not true. PwC (and I can vouch for other Big4) are hiring, be it fresh grad or experienced professionals.

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Added on December 19, 2008, 6:52 pmTake it from somebody in the industry.. Deloitte

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 19 2008, 06:52 PM

That's why you're still interns, it takes time. You have yet to acquire the relevant skills sets, what more can you ask?
I can attest that if you were an intern in an IB, wouldn't be much of a difference.

PS: The Big4 doesn't only revolve around Audit.

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 22 2008, 02:28 PM

Well, a little.. it might help you get noticed by the Big4 faster. But in terms of pay, nope.. there will not be a difference.
I came in w/o an honours degree (as if I'd taken one, it would have needed me to study for an extra year).

Since Economics (to my understanding of my Uni days) have several core / elective papers on Commerce (Accounting), you would still be able to get into Assurance (i.e. Audit). They have in-firm training for non-Accounting graduates. The Advisory Dept is an option, but it depends on the relevance altogether.

I noticed that a few of your recent posts are of this sort of nature. Please do not spam if your intention is just to increase your post count.

tkd84: I think it's best if you contact the HR department 'cos as far as I know, they aren't anybody from that dept. here.

Not sure about EY though, but due to the economic downturn..at least for the Transaction Services dept in PwC, it's kinda like a glut at the moment. Less IPOs or M&As at this juncture. Saw my friends just lepakkin' around just doing research. Go back at 6pm

They do hire fresh grad, but yup.. not very often unless you are indeed exceptional. That's why alot of them hired are not typically Accounting & Finance. I have a few friends from Imperial College, Cornell University and Princeton. Some did Engineering, Law or Economics. And yeah, it helps with the 'ang moh' slang..haha! It also helps if you have a few yrs of audit knowledge, then you transfer..

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 31 2008, 03:08 PM