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asiahost
post Jun 4 2008, 11:06 PM

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hi folks.. long time didnt bump to this thread.. hows life? Anyone working in big 4 in Vietnam or Philippines? Would like to know the environment and their workload. Thanks.

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post Jun 13 2008, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(fletcherwind @ Jun 12 2008, 09:23 AM)
KP offers rm2700 - after revision. The old rate was 2400 i think.
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how sure are you? and when is the revision?
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post Jun 13 2008, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(v86 @ Jun 13 2008, 07:15 PM)
i've just read the graduate requirement in kpmg's website under 'careers'. it stated tht graduates, final year degree holders and ACCA finalist are welcome to apply.
Can anyone confirm with me tht they do employ acca finalist ( not graduate ) and what is the salary offered?
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Let me clarify for you. They do employ ACCA finalist or even not finalist. They will also bond those who have few papers left or even you left only one paper. Don't bother much about the requirement in their website. It is for the sake of formality. Anyway, it really depends your luck cause I have know someone joining accounting firms (big 4) both finalist and not finalist. The salary offered is depends on which accounting firm you apply. I believe it should be the same as freshies.

Hopefully this shed some light in the darkness. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 13 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(v86 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:07 PM)
yeah ive heard they pay rm1800 for acca finalist who doesn't have a degree.  juz wanna clarify things up. thanks for the info ya nod.gif
are u from kpmg?
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Generally those who take ACCA don't have degree. Unless you change path. RM 1800 is for Diploma.

Anyway I am just sharing the information I know. I might be wrong. Correct me if I am wrong.

For your question, I would answer I am a student.

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post Jun 13 2008, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Veena @ Jun 13 2008, 10:35 PM)
haha... all  the best to u.... applying
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"thanks" and to yourself as well.
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post Jun 17 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(springs @ Jun 16 2008, 05:14 PM)
I sent in my resume to PWC via e-mail last few days. How do I know that they've actually received my application? Am wondering if they send back any notification letters to the applicants. tongue.gif

Thanks! smile.gif
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Good luck and all the best!
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post Jun 19 2008, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(springs @ Jun 18 2008, 10:43 AM)
Thanks asiahost!  biggrin.gif Am still waiting for their call..  tongue.gif
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You are welcome.. the call is coming biggrin.gif

QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jun 18 2008, 10:52 AM)
I am waiting as well. But according to one of my friends, PwC may take up to 2 months to get all the applications filtered.
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I guess it really depends on the staff in PWC and a little of your luck. Each application maybe varies. There are some which took a few days while other months. Apply many firms at a go and narrow down your choice when you get offers. Rather than waiting for a particular firm to reply you.


QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jun 18 2008, 07:30 PM)
I doubt PWC is that inefficient, I was called for assessment 1 week after I submitted my resume through our 'office tour'
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As I mentioned earlier, a little bit of luck and depends on the staff. Maybe you are just lucky enough to be screen during the period. No offense.


QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jun 18 2008, 09:16 PM)
erm, i'm going for the july assessment, applied for audit associate. As for the offer, I don't know. depends.
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Good luck for the assessment.

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post Jun 19 2008, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jun 19 2008, 12:00 PM)
if know people inside who hold high post, most chances will get call for interview.

my ex-colleague's sister is manager inside, so my ex-coll able to join there without any problems... and his brother as well.
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Yeah. The thing that matters is WHO YOU KNOW. It is the network that creates an opportunity. Besides you got to be good at your stuff as well.
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post Jun 19 2008, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(HBK-reloaded @ Jun 18 2008, 10:19 PM)
i just want to enquire regarding the workload between audit and tax..between this 2,which is the most time that will be spend on.. im kinda consider both this two since they said that fresh entry they sometimes not encouraged to join in the corp.advisory department yet..and is the salary range equal between tax and audit?is the audit requires extensively travelling compare to tax?btw, since i dont have any knowledge in tax, (few during my tax paper,but kinda forget already since its been 2 years already passed in my acca exam)can i apply for the position? i want to find a position that maybe stay in the office,less travelling coz i still left with 1 acca paper..so dont wanna skip class
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The workload between audit and tax is imaginable. Pick an auditor in the street and they will be able to tell you. Both audit and tax have their own peak period. Depending on which firm you will be joining whether big 4 or medium size the work load is different.

Fresh entry are not encourage to join corporate world because it is better to get exposure in audit line first. For illustration, a guy who works in a corporate world for 3 years compare to a guy who works with an accounting firm. In terms of exposure it will definitely be the guy working in the audit line as he is able to see many industry. As for the guy in the corp world, he will be dull doing the same thing for the past years. Well, this is my perception. It might not be true for others.

As far as i am concerned the salary does not vary much or does not vary at all for tax and audit if you enter as fresh grad.

Audit requires travelling as you need to meet the clients to get schedule, working papers and management accounts. Tax do travel but not as much as auditors do. But you can claim petrol or can car pool with your seniors.

Do your research and start applying then.. But from my point of view, you dont have to find a position that need you to stay in office and less travelling because you dont want to skip class. You rather made the right choice for your career path then having an easy way out to "pass your paper". The choice is still yours biggrin.gif

QUOTE(v86 @ Jun 18 2008, 10:29 PM)
Hi all,

can anyone share with me their opinions regarding the benefits and drawbacks between business advisory dept and audit?

personally, i love analysing companies, assessing their current situation and all, and love to come up with creative ideas of how to improve the co's performance in terms of financial and non-financial wise.
However, i was told tht i would need to work for 5 years in order to gain the membership as compared to audit which is 3 years.

What's the scope of work in audit actually?

i'm planning to apply to the big 4 while waiting for results.

any suggestions?
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The one that I can think of is Audit is more challenging than BAS. Depends on which level you are in, say you enter as fresh grad or inexperience Business Consultant Associate/Exec, you will be doing admin stuff.

BAS is not just analysing companies and assessing their current situation. There are more "DULL" stuff to it. Too many paper works compared to audit. A lot of reading.Too many reports. If you like this stuff join audit few years and then go for forensic auditing or FAS.

Go ahead applying for big four while waiting for results. Wish you luck biggrin.gif


QUOTE(siaolang @ Jun 18 2008, 10:33 PM)
I'm from finance background but I don't have accounting background (took just a few courses in accounting), I wonder can i join the Audit department in big 4?  Are they going to provide training?
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It should not be a problem because I known someone having a medical degree doing audit. And of course he is willing to pick up. Besides, he is doing an accounting professional cert that is why the firm allow him to join.

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post Jun 20 2008, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(v86 @ Jun 19 2008, 04:42 PM)
mmm... but audit is kinda like repetitive work from what i've heard..but dunno how true is tht.
neway thanks for ur wishes and opinion  nod.gif

good luck to u as well for ur job application and results!  thumbup.gif
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Audit is not a repetitive work if you know how to audit. Your seniors say this to you "FOLLOW BACK LAST YEAR FILE". And I pose this question to you. Do you follow blindly or you ask clearly what you are doing? The latter shows it as not a repetitive work while if you follow blindly it is a repetitive work. Then again that is NOT AUDIT.

Thanks for the well wish.

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post Jun 24 2008, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(cheryl08 @ Jun 23 2008, 10:58 PM)
ACCA shld be higher as it's under category of PROFESSIONAL. Degree just a normal degree. Don't be offended. As I know ACCA & CIMA is equal but ACCA more on Finance whereas CIMA more on management and costing.
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Are you sure ACCA is higher??? If yeah which firm?

And what do you mean degree is a normal degree?
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post Jun 24 2008, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(violin_player84 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:10 AM)
let said, i start as audit associate then i been promoted to senior associate. end of the day, i decided to join tax division.

what going to happen ? am i going to start as a Tax associate ?
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You will be a Senior Associate in Tax but you know nuts about Tax. tongue.gif But still it varies across the firms.
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post Jun 25 2008, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 24 2008, 11:36 AM)
You mean Financial Reporting.
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Yeah I think she meant Financial Reporting and not Finance.
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post Jun 26 2008, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(v86 @ Jun 26 2008, 10:53 AM)
Hi everyone,

I just got called for an interview from the Hr department yesterday, mind sharing with me how can i prepare myself for the upcoming interview?  nod.gif
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Which HR Dept if you dont mind sharing? And I believe there are many threads on interview preparation already..

Anyway wish you best of luck.
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post Jul 4 2008, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(cospi03 @ Jul 2 2008, 09:14 PM)
my fren fresh gred at EY got position AA2 @ RM2450, why no revised in this pay for fresh gred???
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They revised the salary already. Previously it was RM 2350. RM 100 better than nothing. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 4 2008, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(cospi03 @ Jul 4 2008, 12:05 PM)
i heard the revised salary fer BDO and PWC's fresh grad are RM2.7k, why EY is lower than these firm??? hmm.gif
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BDO is lower. BDO is offering RM 2300 for freshies. RM 2700 is for only performing students and you are darn good.

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